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Old 03-07-2020, 03:20 AM   #3251
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Main site logo (top left) covered by clickable image: https://chaturbate.com/heyhorny_cb
The logo even have a tagline: "please add HH_ to your new username" inviting fans to create a new username.

This is clearly affecting the site core functionality and design. On whitelabels this banner is leathal.

There is a very easy solution to this: have chaturbate create their own biography templates. Model wuold still be able to personalize their bio.

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I reported her last night too. She was getting away with murder that girl! Her "support me" section seems to be gone for now so maybe reporting isn't a complete waste of time.

I guess its a mini victory for all those that reported her abuse.
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Old 03-07-2020, 03:32 AM   #3252
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It's very very low for me. Probably 2nd lowest period since I began in 2018. Got a new spender on the 3rd though. Hope things get better!
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Old 03-07-2020, 05:29 AM   #3253
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On a side note, I doubt Chaturbate is able to see if a user has created a new account, and even if it was possible, would take them a bit too much time for the return.
Nothing data analysis cannot resolve. From ip address to cookies and credit card number hash or other fingerprints, all is available to see the customers flow. This is of course a natural thing to do for any serious company regardless of the problem we are discussing here.


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In the end, money is in their pocket anyway so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't push investigation too far.
Well this is it, isn't it. Developing partner's loyalty rather than bitterness/resentment is always the best option.
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Nothing data analysis cannot resolve. From ip address to cookies and credit card number hash or other fingerprints, all is available to see the customers flow. This is of course a natural thing to do for any serious company regardless of the problem we are discussing here.
Exactly, so it would be a good thing if CB dives into this and block the new made accounts that are made trough nasty banners/requests from that models, and inform the client to use their old acc again.
We put a lot of work and efford in to get registrations and then some models just steal them from us, in my opinion that's not the way how it suppose to be and it should not.
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Exactly, so it would be a good thing if CB dives into this and block the new made accounts that are made trough nasty banners/requests from that models, and inform the client to use their old acc again.
Yes or easier even: just let them create new accounts but keep the link between the user and the original affiliate. All is done in the backend, no need to contact anyone.

Essentially this would turn the affiliate program into a lifetime rev instead of simple rev. Not sure cb is interested since some users naturally create new usernames thus indirectly increasing cb's revenue (by not having to pay the affiliate share anymore).

Another thing to do is for Chaturbate to create official bio templates so they keep the functionality but have a more robust UI. That's not gonna be cool for all those guys who sell custom bios but hey, not any less nice than what webmasters had to put up with.
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Yes or easier even: just let them create new accounts but keep the link between the user and the original affiliate. All is done in the backend, no need to contact anyone.

Essentially this would turn the affiliate program into a lifetime rev instead of simple rev. Not sure cb is interested since some users naturally create new usernames thus indirectly increasing cb's revenue (by not having to pay the affiliate share anymore).

Another thing to do is for Chaturbate to create official bio templates so they keep the functionality but have a more robust UI. That's not gonna be cool for all those guys who sell custom bios but hey, not any less nice than what webmasters had to put up with.
Yep, thats also possible and much easier, just some database rules and it's done.

The boys who make the custom bios are making it possible for the models to steal the people who WE bring in, so verry pitty for them

When is CB starting to turn back all that accounts that are stolen??? For me yesterday
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Do you think it would be difficult for them to turn back though?
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Old 03-07-2020, 09:08 AM   #3258
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Yep, thats also possible and much easier, just some database rules and it's done.

The boys who make the custom bios are making it possible for the models to steal the people who WE bring in, so verry pitty for them

When is CB starting to turn back all that accounts that are stolen??? For me yesterday
I forgot to mention the huge security hazard there is in letting third parties control part of your website code, this is disturbing.
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Old 03-07-2020, 09:17 AM   #3259
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one of my worst first days ever!

February saw my monthly income decreasing 20/25% (I can handle that), march is about 70% down from January. Been having big chargeback ever since January.


On a side note, I doubt Chaturbate is able to see if a user has created a new account, and even if it was possible, would take them a bit too much time for the return. In the end, money is in their pocket anyway so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't push investigation too far. I still send them email from time to time tho in order to check on some users.
Interesting, do you get any helpful responses about data like this or only some standard answers?

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Do you think it would be difficult for them to turn back though?
I don't think so, if you are paying with certain payment methods, you won't just use another one when you create a new account. Perhaps Chaturbate could link these together. And i think it's definitely possible to get some of the whales back because those major chaturbate girls that are getting lots of view, well we all know that they had these links in their signature and i am pretty sure we lost some whales because of that. Not all of them, but i am pretty sure that we lost some of them. For Chaturbate it doesn't really matter because they get their share no matter what. But for us it's a huge problem and Chaturbate should really take the worries and ideas of the webmasters into consideration and maybe find a fix for this. I love Chaturbate and i love their program but this really is a problem that needs to be handled if they don't wanna lose some of their webmasters.
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At least we have some serious talk now about the situation, and not posts from "I know all".....

Can't we make a fist together to CB that they are going to do something?
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Old 03-07-2020, 01:18 PM   #3261
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Whos i know all?
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Old 03-07-2020, 02:27 PM   #3262
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pls stop trying to harm chaturbate's business model! there is a reason why they are the number one in cam sector. people love the way how they can follow their favorites in different ways and meet again live on chaturbate.
I'm sure CB is very aware about the sign up buttons. But it seems to be the better option than getting replaced by some other competitor. people make new accounts all the time! remember the affiliate program is about getting New members to the site and not refer some whales and lay back for the rest of your life!
there is a serious trend for subsriptions to private social media feeds like onlyfans where you also can go live. but there is a new feature since yesterday on chaturbate now where you can sell your social media for a monthly token price. i like that.
this maybe even makes members stay more with their account because they are bound to a monthly fee;P
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It's getting to the point where the situation seems out of the control of affiliates. In my case and in the cases of a few big guys that I am aware of, we are all way down.

When we see the stats being just plain wrong for more than a month it's easy to begin to feel helpless. All an affiliate can try is to throw more traffic at it in an effort to improve revenues, but that is not the solution here. Really the ball is well in Chaturbate's court and it would be appropriate to get some answers on what will be fixed and what will not. Even just replies to support emails about the CSS situation would be assuring.
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It's getting to the point where the situation seems out of the control of affiliates. In my case and in the cases of a few big guys that I am aware of, we are all way down.

When we see the stats being just plain wrong for more than a month it's easy to begin to feel helpless. All an affiliate can try is to throw more traffic at it in an effort to improve revenues, but that is not the solution here. Really the ball is well in Chaturbate's court and it would be appropriate to get some answers on what will be fixed and what will not. Even just replies to support emails about the CSS situation would be assuring.
It seems to me that chaturbate hasn't cared about us for some time now. For Months I have read about guys having huge drops in revenue, It didn't affect me until this last month where I'm down about 75% and all whales gone.

The problem is Chaturbate is so big now that they don't give a shit about us or feel like that need to answer to us. Even when Steve worked for them you would get generic robotic answers when he could be bothered to come on here.
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pls stop trying to harm chaturbate's business model! there is a reason why they are the number one in cam sector. people love the way how they can follow their favorites in different ways and meet again live on chaturbate.
I'm sure CB is very aware about the sign up buttons. But it seems to be the better option than getting replaced by some other competitor. people make new accounts all the time! remember the affiliate program is about getting New members to the site and not refer some whales and lay back for the rest of your life!
there is a serious trend for subsriptions to private social media feeds like onlyfans where you also can go live. but there is a new feature since yesterday on chaturbate now where you can sell your social media for a monthly token price. i like that.
this maybe even makes members stay more with their account because they are bound to a monthly fee;P
6 posts and your here telling us to stop harming chaturbate. Hmmmmm. What you think guys, maybe a bio creator we have here?
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Do you know what is so funny? The DMCA logo in her bio
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Lol. Wow that bottom bar is crazy. She's live now. Her page is a huge banner farm lol.
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pls stop trying to harm chaturbate's business model! there is a reason why they are the number one in cam sector. people love the way how they can follow their favorites in different ways and meet again live on chaturbate.
I'm sure CB is very aware about the sign up buttons. But it seems to be the better option than getting replaced by some other competitor. people make new accounts all the time! remember the affiliate program is about getting New members to the site and not refer some whales and lay back for the rest of your life!
there is a serious trend for subsriptions to private social media feeds like onlyfans where you also can go live. but there is a new feature since yesterday on chaturbate now where you can sell your social media for a monthly token price. i like that.
this maybe even makes members stay more with their account because they are bound to a monthly fee;P
cb's model is to run a "lifetime" affiliate-based cam site that is gonna morph into a tube with no tippers.... and stealing OUR traffic and especially OUR cu$tomers (they are NOT the MODELS users) is JUST like models/creators having content/feeds stolen
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Lol. Wow that bottom bar is crazy. She's live now. Her page is a huge banner farm lol.
the ENTIRE site even most of the rooms is/are a BANNER FARMs.
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True. I really wish we can have more control on what is shown on our whitelabels and model pages via the main whitelabel. And have more customisation options for our WB brand.

I always wished I could have a custom image directly on the streams but I doubt they will happen. Would be cool though.

Is there any way to make the model pages/stream darker? I guess not possible if they removed custom css. Would be neat to have a Light/Dark mode for desktop.
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6 posts and your here telling us to stop harming chaturbate. Hmmmmm. What you think guys, maybe a bio creator we have here?
I think the same, a bio creator that makes big money and don't want to lose that, or one of the models with such a nasty bio page.
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One solution would be to create an official union: but it would mean trying to convince enough big players to join it.
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One solution would be to create an official union: but it would mean trying to convince enough big players to join it.
What's considered a big player?
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Old 03-08-2020, 06:24 AM   #3274
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I'm guessing that revenue would raise in the coming months, because most cities in all countries would be quarantined for coronavirus, As a result millions of people would have a lot of free time to spend fat money on live cams.
Keep in your mind, most of them wouldn't be able to date anyone for months, That's a golden opportunity for adult cam industry.
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I'm guessing that revenue would raise in the coming months, because most cities in all countries would be quarantined for coronavirus, As a result millions of people would have a lot of free time to spend fat money on live cams.
Keep in your mind, most of them wouldn't be able to date anyone for months, That's a golden opportunity for adult cam industry.
NO!
NO!!
NO!!!

NO work, NO money,NO spend!!!
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teen have NO money!

30+ have money,,,when they lost the job,,,they have NO money,So NO spend! tihis is my thought!
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:17 PM   #3277
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With the Coronavirus less people are traveling and staying safe at home is a good thing for the adult biz.
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NO!
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NO work, NO money,NO spend!!!
Nonsense, porn used to thrive in financially bad times.
It's not like everyone is broke because of corona.
And if they have less money, good. Then need to cut back on their nights out and jerk more at home
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one of my worst first days ever!
For a few days there at the beginning of March it seemed like I was getting back on track. But the last 3 days have been completely dry again. I'm a little surprised it has gotten so bad so quickly.
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Same. My biggest spenders since 2018 vanished I hope they don't have the Coronavirus or something :-|. I still have a good spender that spent 400+ one day few weeks ago but recently only has been spending smaller amounts.
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I only have 1 affilate website and i get money with it, so it's a win for me... no bio creation or nasty stealing wales...
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When I start promoting cams in 2007 i made $800 in 3 weeks, this due the search engines take 2 weeks to index, now you can't even make some bucks, the newbies doesn't know...
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When I start promoting cams in 2007 i made $800 in 3 weeks, this due the search engines take 2 weeks to index, now you can't even make some bucks, the newbies doesn't know...
In 2007 there was maybe 5 people promoting cams
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Is not as good as used to be, with more browsing online, it's changing for the worse.

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Got a new paying customer I signed up last year and just started paying a good amount. So things looking better for me atm.
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Not looking good for me, i usually do a payout every 30 days to my Bank account and these last 30 days (if it continues like that until the 15th of March) seem to be the worst i had in terms of revenue for chaturbate.
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I thought I was just unlucky but doesn't seem to be the case.

80% of my traffic is Organic, I did have some drops here and there due to the Google algoritham going crazy but nothing that huge for the conversions to drop so much.




Ever since aprox Novemeber, I am just seeing less and less conversions, had one small whale but all of a sudden he just stopped, nothing since then.

Chaturbate was my no.1 converter, it dropped to second place since December, if the trend continues with the current 3rd best, Chaturbate could fall to 3rd place.
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Spenders seems are gone in the last periods.. -60% in revenue.
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Sales was down..... now it's back and doing great. in 4 days made up for those low days. ;-)
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General trend isnt that bad, it could be worse due to CoronaVirus. People might stay more tat home, but less money entering.
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:18 AM   #3292
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I thought I was just unlucky but doesn't seem to be the case.

80% of my traffic is Organic, I did have some drops here and there due to the Google algoritham going crazy but nothing that huge for the conversions to drop so much.




Ever since aprox Novemeber, I am just seeing less and less conversions, had one small whale but all of a sudden he just stopped, nothing since then.

Chaturbate was my no.1 converter, it dropped to second place since December, if the trend continues with the current 3rd best, Chaturbate could fall to 3rd place.
It is sad but it is nothing new, it happens to sponsors after time. Just test others and you might get better results.

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Old 03-14-2020, 12:55 PM   #3293
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Does pornhub really gives away free premium to Italians?
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Old 03-14-2020, 01:06 PM   #3294
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Does pornhub really gives away free premium to Italians?
yes. I've checked
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General trend isnt that bad, it could be worse due to CoronaVirus. People might stay more tat home, but less money entering.
Traffic way up, revenue way down here. Everyone has blown their pay check on toilet paper.
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What is the benefit for broadcasters to opt out the partners network so they don't appear on whitelabels?
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What is the benefit for broadcasters to opt out the partners network so they don't appear on whitelabels?
% bigger for them when not affiliate's traffic ?

Geo block useless for model if on white label ?
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% bigger for them when not affiliate's traffic ?
I believe their share doesn't change weather a user is bound to an affiliate or not. It is CB %age that varies.

I also think this feature doesn't block affiliate traffic (you can still use CB links), it only hides them from whitelabels and blacklabels.

I don't think geo block is different : CB vs WL, after all whitelabels are subdomains of CB: xxxx.chaturbate.com

So I still don't see the real benefit for broadcasters to block whitelabels. There's even a warning beside the switch: "you will get less traffic".

Note: Geo block is a feature request CB should implement in their API: webmasters should be able to pass an IP address to retrieve a relevant JSON feed.
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General trend based on 58 accounts tracked in my tool and accepted to put their number public.



Last 3 days are good guys. Thanks the Virus.
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General trend based on 58 accounts tracked in my tool and accepted to put their number public.

Last 3 days are good guys. Thanks the Virus.
Interesting, what is it a trend of?

I am wondering, from your data sample can you see a User UID (last column) that shows up for more than one webmasters (presumably with a different User ID)?
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