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Brexit, The UK votes LEAVE
This is the end of rule from Brussels for the Brits and for others who have the guts to deny the Centralists who want to rule Europe.
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I don't follow "external" politics but I was honestly shocked to hear the results!
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I don't care what politicians say, if they had listened to the peoples problems with the mass immigration then the vote would have been very different.
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Congratulations to the British!
That being said, the referendum doesn't mean shit - it's not legally binding in any way, so the powers that be can just completely ignore it. There is already talk in the EU of banning referendums too because of course you cannot allow something as small as the will of the people to stop socialism... In Poland it WOULD be legally binding, if frequency is over I think 70%
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The EU needs a civil war to negate Article 50 and keep the UK in line.
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I thought this was a done deal and that the UK was going to stay. Went for my nightly bike ride, came back, flipped on the news.... And everything had changed. Interesting.
I'm sure it will be all over the news in the morning here in the US.
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Have you ever been to Britain? A great time for a trip there now!
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The next step is for other countries to have their referendum. I think France will be next, Holland, Denmark, Austria, will follow.
Because with all the rear tactics of losing trade, the Brits have replied clearly. EU Trade Deals are still leaving us poorer. Not because of those deals, because of all the other laws we get imposed on us. We can Trade and still discuss Crime, Terrorism, Environment, etc. It's EU bureaucrats who were throwing up walls that benefit no one except the people employed inside the EY bureaucracy. Can Europe trade freely without a small group of expensive paper pushers milking the system? Of course it can and that's all we need, the rest is what we would like. |
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Mass migration benefits the politicians, why should they listen to the victims?
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GBP took a huge hit - which I think is good. UK was once a manufacturing superpower, now there's closed factories everywhere. Lower valued GBP will improve exports.
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I bet if the brexit vote was only for ethnic brits, it would have been 70% leave...
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yes, british factories will be a great competition for those from China, India, Korea, Brazil and Turkey
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Congrats, i guess
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You are right, my mistake - I was sure it was 70% though
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The EU and EURO was created by Germany as a means of devaluing their own currency so they could export more goods as a benefit to their own economy...
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Talk of Northern Ireland having a Vote on re-unification with (southern) Ireland.
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The UK still produces cars, not as many as Germany and they don't sell as many to Germany as Germany sells to the UK. David Cameron has resigned. So te new Government has to go to EU countries and speak to their unions and companies to make them force the EU to keep trade flowing two ways on an even basis. A Norway style deal is unacceptable and only for the good of the EU bureaucrats. |
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only partially true.
biggest exporters in the world: China, Japan, Germany. where are your clothes are made, if you buy them in most popular "european" shops, shopping for them in Poland, Spain, UK, germany, whatever ? in Bangladesh, India, China, Pakistan. this has nothing to do with EU. "we buy everything from Western Europe" - only partially true. Poland has strong internal market and Poles are competitive guys ;-) Quote:
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Southern Ireland suffers if that border is closed.
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But it doesn't suit the owners of the corporations and Germany. The problem is the Third Word has no intentions of only making things like clothes. What happens when companies like Apple, Microsoft, Boeing, GM, spring up in China, owned by the Chinese? And if you don't think that will happen, you must be living under a rock. |
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hah......
so you say that there is no milk in that milk for polish producer ? I honestly dont think so and they earn what they earn. I also saw polish food being sold in China branded as - polish food. many examples of that. just like in Saudi Arabia etc. |
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its XXI century, not XIV.
I bet that you enjoyed through the years "dumping prices" of cheap Czech models. If you are patriot like that, you should employ only UK models or pay the Czech ones UK money ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Quote:
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brexit is the intellectual equivalent of trumps wall...
the real problem is that nobody wants to employ expensive westerners...this will never change... nobody wants to invest money in a company that employs expensive westerners, investors want the most bang for their $$$....this will never change nobody wants to produce goods with expensive labor and crippling regulations in the west...this will never change |
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eu will be dissolved like SFRJ history teaches us
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yugoslavia....for those who do not know what SFRJ is
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We did pay Czech models UK rates. We came here because of their looks, not prices.
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This is the first step for Europeans to regain control of their countries. We've seen the damage the EU is doing.
The Euro was the biggest cock-up ever. The CAP is to keep farmers voting for the politicians offering it. It has forced up the price of food. Mass migration is a catastrophe. The endless red tape coming from Brussels has to be stopped. Corruption and fraud are endemic in the EU. The EU is unable to present its accounts for auditing. The biggest problem is the people committing the cock-ups. Are gaining strength and want to rule Europe. And all we need is a trading agreement. The EU trades with many countries it has nothing else to do with. No reason for the same deal with Europeans nations. |
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Has Merkel commented on this yet ??
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Next up? TEXIT! And then taking this idea of secession all the way down to its logical conclusion: the individual.
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trade agreements go both ways...you can not protect domestic production without hurting exports...impose a tax on imports = expect same tax imposed on you for your own exports...it goes both ways...always... oh and nobody will buy the goods...you are spot on with your argument, the only problem is capitalism wants its money NOW...it does not matter what will happen in 20-30 years...you take the money NOW and run or you do not take the money and somebody else does... interesting times are ahead.... |
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It wouldn't be taxpayers money that's stolen.
Are you for being ruled from Brussels or from the Parliament only your country can vote for? Trade is great, but look around you and see how much we buy from outside the EU. So it's not as if we wouldn't trade with each other without the EU. When we sell goods to any country they have to conform to that countries rules. The idea of having one set of rules for the EU is good. So long as there aren't 1,000s of bureaucrats whose jobs rely on constantly coming up with new rules. https://fullfact.org/europe/two-thirds-uk-law-made-eu/ https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-w...influenced-eu/ What percentage of laws come from the EU? | It's a mess. |
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Perfect timing for a Europe trip... Let's crash those currencies into the ground guys...
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its not a fair system at all. only 52% want to be out. it should have to be 70%
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You could actually be one of the worst effected by all of this. Who is to say Spain don't kick you out? How long have you been domiciled there now, less than 60 months?
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