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klinton · 06-24-2016, 05:11 AM

oh yes. Just imagine how Spaniards kick out tourists and the people that bring money to Spanish economy..it would be really wise move of Spanish government

unemployment would rise few more percent and real estate would suffer even more

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Originally Posted by TheDA

You could actually be one of the worst effected by all of this. Who is to say Spain don't kick you out? How long have you been domiciled there now, less than 60 months?

TheDA · 06-24-2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

oh yes. Just imagine how Spaniards kick out tourists and the people that bring money to Spanish economy..it would be really wise move of Spanish government

unemployment would rise few more percent and real estate would suffer even more

Well I'm not talking about tourists for a start but you are right, I think it is unlikely that expats would be kicked out possibly more a case of 'forced out' if they lose health care, social services and other current benefits.

_Richard_ · 06-24-2016, 05:27 AM

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klinton · 06-24-2016, 05:32 AM

oh yes... like Brits would be taking any benefits from spanish state. its rather the opposite
there are few that would be the case...90 % overall is giving, not taking

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Well I'm not talking about tourists for a start but you are right, I think it is unlikely that expats would be kicked out possibly more a case of 'forced out' if they lose health care, social services and other current benefits.

pimpmaster9000 · 06-24-2016, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It's this simple. Balanced trade deals. For every $ you sell, you buy a $'s worth from us. This way you protect domestic production and boost exports.

you can not dictate terms with a trade deficit

your goods are not attractive enough to be purchased whilst you are IN the EU...when you go OUT your goods are even less attractive...in turn you sell less and become less attractive for investment...

its literally like this: you either lick the asshole of big money, or big money goes elsewhere...

big money wants profits NOW<---this

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I lived in the days when we made clothes and electrical goods in the UK. We had less poverty and less living on the Governments tit.

time machine paul...30 years ago china was not the production powerhouse it is today...emerging economies have cheap as fuck labor and little regulation...big money was not so international as it is today...

the USA already lost its fight with big money...production is not in the USA any more...

nobody will ever want to employ high paid workers...this will never change...30 years ago china was not an option....today it is a very real option...

what makes you think you will win a fight the USA lost?

Barry-xlovecam · 06-24-2016, 05:40 AM

Enjoy your day!

UK and EU Bonds will be have their credit ratings downgraded.
You will pay in higher interest and inflation rates.
The globalists you love to hate will buy your national assets at discount rates.

The dollar will rise.
The GBP has fallen to record lows;

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Britain's AAA Credit Rating 'Untenable' After Brexit Vote - Fortune

More fallout from the Brexit vote.

Ratings agency Standard and Poor’s said Britain’s top-notch “AAA” credit rating is no longer tenable after voters opted to leave the European Union, The Financial Times reported on Friday.

“We think that a AAA-rating is untenable under the circumstances,” Moritz Kraemer, chief ratings officer for S&P, told the FT.

Rival ratings agencies Fitch and Moodys have already stripped Britain of their AAA ratings, long before the referendum campaign began.

The DJI futures are predicting a 650 point loss today -- I hope there is a chain of losses. I love buying discounted assets. Keep up the good work

TheDA · 06-24-2016, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

oh yes... like Brits would be taking any benefits from spanish state. its rather the opposite
there are few that would be the case...90 % overall is giving, not taking

Do you actually know how much the healthcare for the 300000+ expats costs Spain at all, versus the economic beneift these expats give Spain?

klinton · 06-24-2016, 05:42 AM

dont be so excited. give it a few months to get back to normal
and "you loving buying assets" means shit. wait as the Chinese will say "check", then you are fucked

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Enjoy your day!

UK and EU Bonds will be have their credit ratings downgraded.
You will pay in higher interest and inflation rates.
The globalists you love to hate will buy your national assets at discount rates.

The dollar will rise.
The GBP has fallen to record lows;

The DJI futures are predicting a 650 point loss -- I hope there is a chain of losses. I love buying discounted assets. Keep up the good work

klinton · 06-24-2016, 05:59 AM

yeah I knew that you will say that. They even repeated it 10 times here in Spanish TV with one older british lady saying that now she will "have to move". typical propaganda bullshit, just like Cameron was saying that British pensions wont be "secure" after Brexit.
i stand my point: 90 % of british expats give more than take. and most of them have some kind of insurance from their home coountry. Its not US here. here such things are few times cheaper than in US. usually

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Do you actually know how much the healthcare for the 300000+ expats costs Spain at all, versus the economic beneift these expats give Spain?

Barry-xlovecam · 06-24-2016, 06:09 AM

@klinton
I have 5 times more asset worth than what I had in 2007

Keep dreaming ...

TheDA · 06-24-2016, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

yeah I knew that you will say that. They even repeated it 10 times here in Spanish TV with one older british lady saying that now she will "have to move". typical propaganda bullshit, just like Cameron was saying that British pensions wont be "secure" after Brexit.
i stand my point: 90 % of british expats give more than take. and most of them have some kind of insurance from their home coountry. Its not US here. here such things are few times cheaper than in US. usually

Who is talking about the US? It's got nothing to do with the US. Again, I'm guessing your 90% figure is a best guess instead of published data?

Barry-xlovecam · 06-24-2016, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Do you actually know how much the healthcare for the 300000+ expats costs Spain at all, versus the economic beneift these expats give Spain?

And if their income source is in GBP it's just heading down in value. So, the Euro is going to take part of the hit.

Chart is too big >> https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/...4/v2/-1x-1.png

"blood in the waters!"
Nice work

Paul Markham · 06-24-2016, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I hear since this morning, Britain's already poorer than France & the French are sending all their refugees over to England, taxes are rising & Spain wants Gib back. As for the Brussels ruling, that was never the case. The EU top dogs were a group & not just ruling from Brussels. Now Britain's going to find cost of living goes up as they purchase from international countries like Germany, rather than from the EU.

I'm not sure how things will change from Brits abroad, but I'm pleased I'm not living in the UK now, The prisoners island

I can see the scare tactics worked on you.

The rise in prices on imports will make people buy British. And devastate the EU economy. How will Spain do when the Spanish on benefits in the UK, have to go home?

How's unemployment in Spain?

Vendot · 06-24-2016, 06:23 AM

Congrats LEAVE people.......

looks like MI5 killed Cox for absolutely nothing.

NatalieK · 06-24-2016, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

You could actually be one of the worst effected by all of this. Who is to say Spain don't kick you out? How long have you been domiciled there now, less than 60 months?

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Originally Posted by klinton

oh yes. Just imagine how Spaniards kick out tourists and the people that bring money to Spanish economy..it would be really wise move of Spanish government

unemployment would rise few more percent and real estate would suffer even more

Exactly this. Spain wants British & other nationalities living here, bringing income, raising the economy of Spain. They want their country back, Gib does trading with the US & the Spanish government have seen Britain leaving the EU as a golden egg.

As for the UK, the masses of overseas, European deliveries to & from the UK will either rise in costs or the consumer will quit purchasing & again, less business for the UK.

Already the lies have began from Farage, saying his campaign to leave was a mistake & the money isn't now going to help the NHS, I bet it will help line their pockets though

I wonder when porn & all adult rated sites will be banned? Government control is coming!

NatalieK · 06-24-2016, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Do you actually know how much the healthcare for the 300000+ expats costs Spain at all, versus the economic beneift these expats give Spain?

not any more, I'd have thought I'll have to have personal insurance now the UK's left the EU.

klinton · 06-24-2016, 06:27 AM

lucky bastard ! if you invested in NYSE since 2010 thats basically what had happened... thanks to "quantative easing".... what a beautiful word, isnt it ? you may even use the same type of eufemism if you go to make shit in the toilet

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

@klinton
I have 5 times more asset worth than what I had in 2007

Keep dreaming ...

Paul Markham · 06-24-2016, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

oh yes. Just imagine how Spaniards kick out tourists and the people that bring money to Spanish economy..it would be really wise move of Spanish government

unemployment would rise few more percent and real estate would suffer even more

The only people who will be kicked out are those who don't support themselves and not taking a job from a native. The EU committed suicide when they wrote that law.

Look at the average wage and taxes paid to see where the break-even point is. Then look at national debt. You'll see very few actually contribute a lot. In the UK the top 20% pay more in taxes than the rest combined. Gary, Madalton, me, we contribute. Even today me pensions make me a net contributor.

All migration should be judged on this basis.

klinton · 06-24-2016, 06:29 AM

its a "best guess" based on what I see here. and usually guys that live here + 6 months and are from UK... have real estate...and they are being "properly" taxed on that

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Who is talking about the US? It's got nothing to do with the US. Again, I'm guessing your 90% figure is a best guess instead of published data?

klinton · 06-24-2016, 06:32 AM

it is already banned in UK, in case you dont know. probably the only EU country...
well, maybe not banned, but banned by default by ISPs. you have to "ask" to have pron websites enabled unless you use VPN from UK

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I wonder when porn & all adult rated sites will be banned? Government control is coming!

Paul Markham · 06-24-2016, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

you can not dictate terms with a trade deficit

your goods are not attractive enough to be purchased whilst you are IN the EU...when you go OUT your goods are even less attractive...in turn you sell less and become less attractive for investment...

its literally like this: you either lick the asshole of big money, or big money goes elsewhere...

big money wants profits NOW<---this

So the Chinese lose out. The UK can buy from countries willing to buy our goods.

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time machine paul...30 years ago china was not the production powerhouse it is today...emerging economies have cheap as fuck labor and little regulation...big money was not so international as it is today...

the USA already lost its fight with big money...production is not in the USA any more...

nobody will ever want to employ high paid workers...this will never change...30 years ago china was not an option....today it is a very real option...

what makes you think you will win a fight the USA lost?

China wasn't. Hong Kong, Japan and others were. Please get some facts.

Paul Markham · 06-24-2016, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Do you actually know how much the healthcare for the 300000+ expats costs Spain at all, versus the economic beneift these expats give Spain?

If the 300,000 expats cost Spain more than they contribute. Why the fuck should they be in Spain?

This notion of people going from one country to leech off another is the problem and applies to Brits.

The Porn Nerd · 06-24-2016, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We did pay Czech models UK rates. We came here because of their looks, not prices.

It's true, British models are fugly as Hell.

So from an American perspective: this all sounds like "soft" Naziism to me. That, plus pure capitalism.

The eternal struggle is this: average people want to be paid a living wage, poor people will work for dirt, rich people like poor people. Rich control everything, average people get fucked, poor people make enough $ to barely survive while the rich get richer.

Any of that wrong? Any of that ever going to change?

directfiesta · 06-24-2016, 06:50 AM

The end of United Kingdom ....

The only reason Scotland stayed in the UK was the fear of being out of EU for qute a few years ... Now, they are out anyway ...

Ireland will split also , as they are considered 3rd rate citizens ...

Paul Markham · 06-24-2016, 06:51 AM

Once the UK establishes a decent trade deal all will settle down. Should the EU bureaucrats decide to shut down trade deals with the UK. A lot of big companies and millions of workers will go apeshit over losing jobs and money.

But let's just assume German Carmakers and the rest of EU industries are happy to sell less. The UK economy drops. 100,000s of migrants will leave the UK. They're their because the economy is thriving, benefits subsidise low paid migrant workers and as I pointed out. Very few contribute.

This will open up 100,000s of jobs.

The reason so many voted out is, they're not seeing the benefits of the EU. Look at how people's incomes have been hit for proof.

Paul Markham · 06-24-2016, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

It's true, British models are fugly as Hell.

So from an American perspective: this all sounds like "soft" Naziism to me. That, plus pure capitalism.

The eternal struggle is this: average people want to be paid a living wage, poor people will work for dirt, rich people like poor people. Rich control everything, average people get fucked, poor people make enough $ to barely survive while the rich get richer.

Any of that wrong? Any of that ever going to change?

Only if the people vote for change. The rich people are penniless unless the rest buy their goods. Tell me how many would be rich if not for us buying?

At the moment we're sending ur jobs East. We need a Government that says to China and the others, buy more hi-tech from us or we won't buy from you.

Not EU Governments that allow Airbus to open factories in China. If they can move East, what's to stop Mercedes, BMW? Whoops, to late look under the bonnet of your car.

poncabare · 06-24-2016, 07:10 AM

Smart move. Can't take care of dead beats all the time

redwhiteandblue · 06-24-2016, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

it is already banned in UK, in case you dont know. probably the only EU country...
well, maybe not banned, but banned by default by ISPs. you have to "ask" to have pron websites enabled unless you use VPN from UK

You only have to do this with mobile phones, home broadband it's under your own control. Well it is with BT anyway.

rogueteens · 06-24-2016, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Exactly this. Spain wants British & other nationalities living here, bringing income, raising the economy of Spain. They want their country back, Gib does trading with the US & the Spanish government have seen Britain leaving the EU as a golden egg.

As for the UK, the masses of overseas, European deliveries to & from the UK will either rise in costs or the consumer will quit purchasing & again, less business for the UK.

Already the lies have began from Farage, saying his campaign to leave was a mistake & the money isn't now going to help the NHS, I bet it will help line their pockets though

I wonder when porn & all adult rated sites will be banned? Government control is coming!

what did you say your I.Q. was again Gary?

mineistaken · 06-24-2016, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scarlettcontent

its not a fair system at all. only 52% want to be out. it should have to be 70%

So it is more fair to do as 48% wants instead of 52% wants?

mineistaken · 06-24-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The only people who will be kicked out are those who don't support themselves and not taking a job from a native. The EU committed suicide when they wrote that law.

Look at the average wage and taxes paid to see where the break-even point is. Then look at national debt. You'll see very few actually contribute a lot. In the UK the top 20% pay more in taxes than the rest combined. Gary, Madalton, me, we contribute. Even today me pensions make me a net contributor.

All migration should be judged on this basis.

You get UK pension and spend that in CZ. UK should not pay pensions to those who leave the country if they were smart. Just count how much money UK loses on paying all those 300K "Spaniards"...

Rochard · 06-24-2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Have you ever been to Britain? A great time for a trip there now!

I have been to the UK, twice, and it was eye opening. I am a huge WWII buff and seeing some of the places I've been reading about for years was neat.

I also visited the Dating Factory offices in Bridgewater, England. The office there was located on a river that was a defensive line in the event Germany invaded the UK. There a dirt road along the river and every morning I would go jogging. There was bunkers there, small ones, that you could still go inside.

pimpmaster9000 · 06-24-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So the Chinese lose out. The UK can buy from countries willing to buy our goods.

wrong...china export to UK=3% of total exports...UK exports to china = 3% of total exports...

3% is 3%...only they are growing and you are not...works out great for the #2 economy in the world, soon to be #1...

also you can not really force the chineese people to buy UK stuff...even if the chin government could do a 1:1 kind of deal this does not mean people will actually buy your stuff...free market and shit...you need to be competitive etc...

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China wasn't. Hong Kong, Japan and others were. Please get some facts.

you mean hongkong the former brit colony until 97 and japan, countries that did not have cheap labor at all but only produced better than you?...how is that an argument?...

and you completely ignore big money and its wishes...big money gets what big money wants...if the UK does not play like big money says, big money will avoid the UK...

NickBaer · 06-24-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Southern Ireland suffers if that border is closed.

Why wouldn't "re-unification" mean "no border"? One country.

redwhiteandblue · 06-24-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

also you can not really force the chineese people to buy UK stuff...even if the chin government could do a 1:1 kind of deal this does not mean people will actually buy your stuff...free market and shit...you need to be competitive etc...

True but the Chinese love our stuff. We get plane loads of them coming over here just to go shopping and take stuff back to China. The price of pork has gone up in the Uk because most pork producers are selling their output to China. So a trade deal would help us a lot if we could get one. I don't think that'll happen too soon though, I think a deal with India will come first.

The Porn Nerd · 06-24-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Only if the people vote for change. The rich people are penniless unless the rest buy their goods. Tell me how many would be rich if not for us buying?

At the moment we're sending ur jobs East. We need a Government that says to China and the others, buy more hi-tech from us or we won't buy from you.

Not EU Governments that allow Airbus to open factories in China. If they can move East, what's to stop Mercedes, BMW? Whoops, to late look under the bonnet of your car.

What you just described has already happened in the US twenty+ years ago. America used to be a manufacturing powerhouse but now all those jobs went to China, india and Mexico. I honestly do not know what all those semi-skilled factory workers went and did after they lost their jobs...not into high tech.

It's a giant fucking MESS is all I can really say. Knowing where the line is, between semi-slave labor/wages and a decent middle class income, seems to be the challenge.

pimpmaster9000 · 06-24-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

True but the Chinese love our stuff. We get plane loads of them coming over here just to go shopping and take stuff back to China. The price of pork has gone up in the Uk because most pork producers are selling their output to China. So a trade deal would help us a lot if we could get one. I don't think that'll happen too soon though, I think a deal with India will come first.

they would buy more if they wanted...its not that china is stopping UK stuff from opening shop in china...its not their fault your goods do not sell more...

but fact of the matter is you are 3% of all export to them, they are 3% of all export to you...stale mate...

2 possibilities:
1) you can both keep the 3%
2) you can impose bans on each other and not have the 3%

you do not have a bargaining chip against china...

Struggle4Bucks · 06-24-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Look at the average wage and taxes paid to see where the break-even point is. Then look at national debt. You'll see very few actually contribute a lot. In the UK the top 20% pay more in taxes than the rest combined. Gary, Madalton, me, we contribute. Even today me pensions make me a net contributor.

All migration should be judged on this basis.

You can kick out as many as you want... You can make the best trading deals possible... won't help you a bit... Your problem isn't your economy... your problem is your NATIONAL DEBT...

With all best intentions they will never be able to reverse that...

Default is coming... inevetable... Not a question of If but a question of When
Not only in Britain btw... rest of Europe too, usa, etc...

Say bye bye to the world we know...

Brexit didn't help...

Thank your Bank!

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