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Old 07-31-2016, 08:16 AM   #51
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Chelsea and Hillary almosted shot by snipers in Yugoslavias.

I hope Hillary wins. I wants to vote in next USA election . I may cross border justs to vote.
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As Trump originally described it—"a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States," apparently including U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents—this proposal clearly would violate the Fifth Amendment's guarantees of due process and equal protection (understood to be part of due process in this context) as well as the First Amendment's guarantee of religious freedom and its prohibition of religious favoritism. Even if the Muslim ban were limited to tourists and other temporary visitors, the ACLU argues, it would still violate the First Amendment. Although the Supreme Court upheld blatantly racist immigration policies in the 19th and early 20th centuries, it says, "There can be no question that such racial exclusion laws would not pass constitutional muster today." In any case, "there has never, even during the period of racial exclusion, been an immigration ban on the basis of religion," a fact that "likely reflects the priority of religious neutrality since the nation's founding." The ACLU adds that Trump's Muslim exclusion plan would be unconstitutional even if it were disguised as a ban based on nationality, as he more recently suggested it might be, because "intent to discriminate on the basis of religion, even hidden behind pretextual religious neutrality, violates the Establishment Clause and Equal Protection."
The ACLU Counts the Ways Trump Would Violate Civil Liberties - Hit & Run : Reason.com

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Protection of US territory and banning immigration from places and persons associated with seriosly elevated risk of danger does not appeal only to the uneducated. It is probably most prudent under present circumstances to halt the immigation of persons wha can't affirmatively establish that they amount to a nondanger, requiring visas for all travelers. But that's not really practical because nations will retaliate and require the same of US visitors. Perhaps the best that can be done is to temporarily ban visits from countries associated with high risk until a quite probing visa application and investigation protocol can be designed and tested.
That's the problem. European Politicians are in favour of mass migration and the cultural changes that go with it. The people are not. I suspect more of those people will vote for Governments that put a stop to the mass migration policies we now have.

Eastern Europe has no problem, the benefits system keeps them out. If America and Liberal EU did the same. Mass migration would become a thing of the past. No benefits, jobs, education, healthcare, anchor babies, houses, etc. More effective, Easier and cheaper than any other form of migration control. Come to Czech and see how it works.
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His son died fighting for the US, and Trump constantly shits on his son. How much Xanax would you have to take to feel better if Trump was doing this to you and your dead son?
No, he died because he wanted US citizenship (and military salary).

Stop making a fucking hero out of him. He went into army for money, it was his fucking job. Taxpayers paid him for it. Risking life was part of the deal and his job.
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one" -- Good. The non-brainwashed do not willingly sacrifice their offspring or resources towards fighting BULLSHIT wars.
The muslim family didn't sacrifice anything either. He didn't do it for free, he didn't do it for some high morals. He DID IT FOR THE FUCKING HANDOUTS, MONEY AND U.S. CITIZENSHIP.
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:32 AM   #57
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That's the problem. European Politicians are in favour of mass migration and the cultural changes that go with it. The people are not. I suspect more of those people will vote for Governments that put a stop to the mass migration policies we now have.

Eastern Europe has no problem, the benefits system keeps them out. If America and Liberal EU did the same. Mass migration would become a thing of the past. No benefits, jobs, education, healthcare, anchor babies, houses, etc. More effective, Easier and cheaper than any other form of migration control. Come to Czech and see how it works.

I get fed up hearing sly manipulation-experts talk stupidly about things they know nothing about in other lands. Trump-idolizers/ right wingers predictably put their suspicions and paranoia and malicious agendas in front of facts and common sense.

Politicians get voted in because of the people. While some people in Europe like anywhere else in the world have xenophobic anti-social deviancy issues, most civilians know that people in the world are more alike than different - ie, they try and do get along with everyone and do generally the same tedious life stuff; eat. sleep, work, chat, hobbies etc - each day.

Your idea all/ most caucasians in Europe are frothing-mad raving racists who hate visible minorities is PURE baseless and insulting crap.
I was born and raised in Europe and Ametrica, I know the actual situation despite the delusional misinformation crap you are trying to poison American minds with.
Only the stupid in America will never acknowledge the European mass migration past it has.

Visible Minorities have been in Europe from the ages of Romans - serving as colonial-Auxiliary troops. 400 years ago Queen Elizabeth I had her racist demands to the then London Mayor met when she deported the very large community of Black/ Arab Moors living/ working in England around 500 years ago. How fitting 400 years later a London Muslim Mayor is elected - And this alone shows what utter crap you're talking about - FACT...... the people vote for their elected leaders across most of Europe - knowing they have no plans of stopping immigration.

Furthermore; Eastern Europe has plenty of visible minorities - and it has large numbers of lunatic neonazi gangs too unfortunately.

Visible minorities served as colonial troops in many of Europe's warmongering/ Empire global wars. Nearly 300,000 Muslims/ North Africans served in the French colonial forced in WW2 alone. Many fought and died for the Allies in WW1 and fighting against the Nazis in Europe throughout WW2 - as did hundreds of thousands of minorities in the US and UK armies too. Czechs owe part of their liberation from Nazi occupation to minorities and Muslims who fought for the Allies on both European fronts.

Mass migration of the 1950s in Europe was essential in Europe's post WW2 recovery - there was massive underpopulation and shortage of workers. That was the primary reason for mass-migration which intelligent people understood was necessary for Europe to maintain a healthy growth. Of course the xenophobes - which exist in most societies globally, were violently against foreigners - but nonetheless the masses favoured non-discrimination and treating fellow humans without prejudice.

So cry all you want trying to pollute Americans to vote for Trump via the idea you create that Europe is in chaos because of mass migration and paint the BS idea East Europe has 'no problem'. 'Mass hysteria fearmongering' tactics of xenophobes are well known in the USA. The fact is though Czech may have the best unemployment status in Europe, Britain and Germany - mass immigration advocates of many decades, are impressively close behind; while several other low-immigration East Europe nations are not doing nearly as great. Check current unemployment stats of Europe yourselves.

Overall immigrants are a healthy contributing and vital aspect for developing advanced nations; economic infusion stimulus for industries, and Skilled labour and non-skilled labour. Wealthy immigrants bring in their vast investments too.

Like many Democrats; I'm no Hillary fan; but what's the other option; civil war with upgraded* right-wing lunatics - and Trump will end the USA in a WW3 he starts against N.Korea or China or Iran; of course he'll stay buddies with his best pal Putin - too much money to rake in together for a war to get in their way.

All Xenophobes worldwide and their related fearmongering/ 24/7 griping - GFY
Common sense, clear thinking, the common good needs to prevail.
I don't like Clinton, but Trump is a grave threat to the safety of the USA...... he's bold enough to insult the grieving mother of a dead veteran; imagine what other heartless crap he's capable of.......
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:44 AM   #58
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The muslim family didn't sacrifice anything either. He didn't do it for free, he didn't do it for some high morals. He DID IT FOR THE FUCKING HANDOUTS, MONEY AND U.S. CITIZENSHIP.
Try stick to facts; I know it's asking too much for Trump supporters.......
The veteran in question was a Captain.
He was 2 years old when he was brought to the USA.
He hardly needed handouts; he was highly educated and had humanity attributes - which are things certain socially dysfunctional Americans lack.
He led his company from the front and died specifically by being at their front.
- that's hard for Trump-fans to grasp I know; the idea of glorified right wing leaders Cheneys and Trumps doing the fighting that they sucker others to go ahead and sacrifice themselves for in needless wars.
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That's the problem. European Politicians are in favour of mass migration and the cultural changes that go with it. The people are not. I suspect more of those people will vote for Governments that put a stop to the mass migration policies we now have.

Eastern Europe has no problem, the benefits system keeps them out. If America and Liberal EU did the same. Mass migration would become a thing of the past. No benefits, jobs, education, healthcare, anchor babies, houses, etc. More effective, Easier and cheaper than any other form of migration control. Come to Czech and see how it works.

I get fed up hearing sly manipulation-experts talk stupidly about things they know nothing about in other lands. Trump-idolizers/ right wingers predictably put their suspicions and paranoia and malicious agendas in front of facts and common sense.

Politicians get voted in because of the people. While some people in Europe like anywhere else in the world have xenophobic anti-social deviancy issues, most civilians know that people in the world are more alike than different - ie, they try and do get along with everyone and do generally the same tedious life stuff; eat. sleep, work, chat, hobbies etc - each day.

Your idea all/ most caucasians in Europe are frothing-mad raving racists who hate visible minorities is PURE baseless and insulting crap.
I was born and raised in Europe and Ametrica, I know the actual situation despite the delusional misinformation crap you are trying to poison American minds with.
Only the stupid in America will never acknowledge the European mass migration past it has.

Visible Minorities have been in Europe from the ages of Romans - serving as colonial-Auxiliary troops. 400 years ago Queen Elizabeth I had her racist demands to the then London Mayor met when she deported the very large community of Black/ Arab Moors living/ working in England around 500 years ago. How fitting 400 years later a London Muslim Mayor is elected - And this alone shows what utter crap you're talking about - FACT...... the people vote for their elected leaders across most of Europe - knowing they have no plans of stopping immigration.

Furthermore; Eastern Europe has plenty of visible minorities - and it has large numbers of lunatic neonazi gangs too unfortunately.

Visible minorities served as colonial troops in many of Europe's warmongering/ Empire global wars. Nearly 300,000 Muslims/ North Africans served in the French colonial forced in WW2 alone. Many fought and died for the Allies in WW1 and fighting against the Nazis in Europe throughout WW2 - as did hundreds of thousands of minorities in the US and UK armies too. Czechs owe part of their liberation from Nazi occupation to minorities and Muslims who fought for the Allies on both European fronts.

Mass migration of the 1950s in Europe was essential in Europe's post WW2 recovery - there was massive underpopulation and shortage of workers. That was the primary reason for mass-migration which intelligent people understood was necessary for Europe to maintain a healthy growth. Of course the xenophobes - which exist in most societies globally, were violently against foreigners - but nonetheless the masses favoured non-discrimination and treating fellow humans without prejudice.

So cry all you want trying to pollute Americans to vote for Trump via the idea you create that Europe is in chaos because of mass migration and paint the BS idea East Europe has 'no problem'.
The reality is - when has Europe not had massive convulsions- in between violent wars and revolutions amongst themselves, Empires that pillaged societies world wide, starting 2 World Wars, constant wars of the classes..... seriously; is your memory short regarding Europe's entire violent history? That's why most Europeans fled as refugees to America as foreign migrants.

'Mass hysteria fearmongering' tactics of xenophobes are well known in the USA. The fact is though Czech may have the best unemployment status in Europe, Britain and Germany - mass immigration advocates of many decades, are impressively close behind; while several other low-immigration East Europe nations are not doing nearly as great. Check current unemployment stats of Europe yourselves.

Overall immigrants are a healthy contributing and vital aspect for developing advanced nations; economic infusion stimulus for industries, and Skilled labour and non-skilled labour. Wealthy immigrants bring in their vast investments too.

Like many Democrats; I'm no Hillary fan; but what's the other option; civil war with upgraded* right-wing lunatics - and Trump will end the USA in a WW3 he starts against N.Korea or China or Iran; of course he'll stay buddies with his best pal Putin - too much money to rake in together for a war to get in their way.

All Xenophobes worldwide and their related fearmongering/ 24/7 griping - GFY
Common sense, clear thinking, the common good needs to prevail.
I don't like Clinton, but Trump is a grave threat to the safety of the USA...... he's bold enough to insult the grieving mother of a dead veteran; imagine what other heartless crap he's capable of.......
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He led his company from the front and died specifically by being at their front.
It was his JOB. He was being PAID for it.

He did nothing that wasn't expected of him.
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Only if said immigrants want to integrate into already existing society/culture.

But the muzzies want to eradicate western way of life and establish their own fucked up ways (sharia law, etc)

Australian PM got it right: either behave and respect our rules or get the fuck out.
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Only if said immigrants want to integrate into already existing society/culture.

But the muzzies want to eradicate western way of life and establish their own fucked up ways (sharia law, etc)

Australian PM got it right: either behave and respect our rules or get the fuck out.
americans be like:

"we want to invade and bomb but we do not want people running away from our mess"

maybe stop bombing and go home?
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It was his JOB. He was being PAID for it.

He did nothing that wasn't expected of him.
He was awarded the Gold Star Medal posthumously for heroism -- do they spit on heroes parents where you come from? That honor is rare when a soldier or officer dies.

So, he went beyond the call of duty that is why he got that gold star.

Whether or not he was in a ''just'' war is not the point.

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Please don't talk facts on the clown bus ... Yeah, you are dead on right on that one.
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It was his JOB. He was being PAID for it.

He did nothing that wasn't expected of him.
You don't know his story & are speaking from ignorance.


Captain Humayun Khan was inspecting his infantry soldiers when a suspicious car came to the gates of the compound his men were protecting.

He could have told any one of his soldiers under his command to approach & inspect the vehicle. He didn't. He told his men to go back and take cover, he himself took 10 steps forward to inspect the vehicle and was blown up by the car bomb.

In America we call that a hero, sacrificing your life for the men you command is a gold star act, not something you're paid for. Those men owe their life to him.



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