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Both candidates are terrible. It's appalling and embarrassing for the Democratic Party that Clinton is not stomping him to the ground, but she's not. This guy has been blasted by the whole world for the last 17 months and he is still hanging on there somehow. Ultimately I think she will win, barely. That is sad. That is pathetic. It has already been said over and over again that women will not vote for him because of his other antics. This recent "bomb," who is it really going to impact? Women that already don't want to vote for him? The conservatives that already don't want to vote for him? What votes is he losing? And is anyone even really shocked about this? What is news? What is surprising?
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But yes, Trump is losing votes and support due to this. Both my MIL and FIL turned a blind eye until yesterday when this video came out. Politicians are denouncing him, Independents are jumping firmly to Hillary, and all of this will continue. Hearing this on top of the ads she has been running showing his comments towards women have decimated him. |
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You seem to believe mainstream media / are brainwashed by their propaganda. You don't question why they constantly attack Trump and treat Clinton normally, while she is the one with the biggest, most serious scandals. Therefore, you are not in the postion to say 'I remember when you were smarter', because you're clearly dumber. ![]() |
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Welcome to the age when saying something "offensive" in a private conversation, as a private person, 11 years ago, against one from the ever expanding list of minorities and groups that are these days supposed to feel regularly offended, is supposed to be a "dealbreaker" in a presidential election.
And that against a candidate that's proven to be in bed with big business, by every means corrupt, has a terrible track record as a public servant including a key part in some of the worst foreign policy decisions in the modern history. Including a high probability of selling classiffied information (no she's really not this stupid) and even calling a good quarter of Americans deplorables. Anything mentioned above would disqualify just about anybody from even seriously considering running for a president in a non-absurd world. But here we are, "offended" - nothing much to add I guess.
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The entire Mormon church just came out against Trump. And those Mormons are loyal to what their church says. Utah is going blue this election lol.
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The thing is, apart from not acting presidential at any given opportunity he has, he also has a hard time to counter these political games. One thing that's surprising me is the amount of GOP "officials" that are so "outraged" about this and vocal about withdrawing support, shouldn't they support their candidate? Or is this just a great opportunity to throw him under the bus, make sure establishment stays in the White house, and keep their establishment spot and image.
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It reminds me of the end of G.W. Bush's presidency. We were stuck in two wars we couldn't get out of and the economy was cratering. Republicans were like rats on a sinking ship trying to separate themselves from him and his policies. Trump is getting the same now. |
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They will have another moment like after Bush left office and they got their asses handed to them by the dems. I read today that some republican leaders area already calling for the party to get back to it's roots and go after gay marriage, abortion and move back to the far right to revitalize the base. Others in the party say they need to be more moderate. I think we will see a power struggle of sorts, but I also think denial will set in. They will just assume Trump was a bad candidate and they will be fine in 4 years. If they lose again in 4 years it could be chaos in the party.
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At least based on the most feedback I read from actual readers and commenters on more conservative media outlets, these appear to be majorly fed up with the GOP establishment that gets slammed not much less than the actual Democratic establishment. The same Republican establishment that tried anything possible to not let Trump with in the primaries and now ready to throw him under the bus to maintain the status quo. The feeling of betrayal may set in and I can see many terminating their party. Indeed interesting times, if HRC is elected, it's likely to be a candidate that most sane Americans, who managed to do their homework about her, despise. I doubt there ever was in the history a candidate with so many proven counts of blatant corruption and acts against the national / public interest, with similarly negative rankings. And with a half of the country die hard against her.
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this is the problem with both UK and US...
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I would believe that GOP is about to lose many, many Trump voters after this election. And Trump's campaign may be a benchmark for the future, as it shows the power of voters that are fed up with the establishment and what topics they really care about. Just imagine there would be somebody just as authentic as Trump, but with manners and a presidential aura, being able to talk openly about issues, with a solid plan and a solid base of well liked endorsers. This person would have to be by every means rich, again at a billionaire's level, to appeal as a true independent. But then the logical question is, what billionaire in this country has the motivation to try to change the status quo. Usually they do just well with the current bought politicians.
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Personally, I think Clinton is corrupt and I think she knew exactly what she was doing with the private email server. I think she didn't trust Obama and thought if something went bad he might try to throw her under the bus. I think some of the favorability issues are because of all the investigations, but, to me, a lot of it is simply that she doesn't come off as someone very likable. She comes off like someone who wants something and is willing to do anything to get it. |
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Hmm... I kinda think maybe you left out a few things on the Trump side, and threw in a couple of false/conspiracy things on the Clinton side. Just sayin'.
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i didn't think it was anyones business that clinton was getting blown but he shouldn't of lied about it. regardless, i didn't actually see what trump said when i posted that. now that i have, it does sound pretty bad but what people say when they think they aren't being recorded can often contain a lot of unsavory things. however, he will be judged for it and it no doubt cost him more votes than it would of gained.
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Dozens of investigations and tens of thousands of emails has failed to find any evidence of any wrong doing.
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The Republican party had a playbook and a plan to win in 2016. It was very simple - they need to target two demographics: Women and Hispanics. Women make up 53% of the voters in the US, and Hispanics are a quickly growing demographic. This is just common sense.... Then the Republican party nominated someone who completely alienated both of these demographics. This election was lost the moment the Republican party nominated Trump.
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How could he not see this coming? Even worse is the fact Trump has zero political experience. He had no idea what he was doing. Clinton was running a professional campaign with boots on the ground and hundreds of millions of dollars in ads. Meanwhile Trump did nothing, nearly nothing at all.
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It would be bad for the country if the party was truly fucked post-Trump. Our system needs the Republican party to function normally. We also need them to not be such major assholes.
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