So imagine the election was tomorrow and Hillary wins

[Scott McD]

I can'tell help but feel the next 4 years everyone will be wondering "what if?" When Trump doesn't win. I think people will always be guessing what Trump would have done the second North Korea start their shit again or Russia or whoever.

Bring on 4 boring years of boring mentally ill Hillary and her shitty term.



As much of a nutcase as Trump is, a huge part of me just wants to see the show!




The world is fucked anyway so why not have a screwball make it more interesting....

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I can'tell help but feel the next 4 years everyone will be wondering "what if?" When Trump doesn't win. I think people will always be guessing what Trump would have done the second North Korea start their shit again or Russia or whoever.

Bring on 4 boring years of boring mentally ill Hillary and her shitty term.



As much of a nutcase as Trump is, a huge part of me just wants to see the show!




The world is fucked anyway so why not have a screwball make it more interesting....

Sorry but we don't need a Putin running the US.. Trump idolizes guys like Putin and other dictators.. His only plan is to use the POTUS office to stroke his ego and swindle money to himself.

[Quine]

One thing is for sure, there will be more wars is she wins. She'll look for more countries to lead proxy wars and bring democracy for them. More American soldiers and foreign civilians will die and those places will not become democratic. I think EU countries are safe. That's something.

[Spunky]

RIP America

[Horatio Caine]

Another Euro tells us how to live. Take him to Scotland than, he'll spice things up for you. can't be any more boring than your shitty food.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Quine

One thing is for sure, there will be more wars is she wins. She'll look for more countries to lead proxy wars and bring democracy for them. More American soldiers and foreign civilians will die and those places will not become democratic. I think EU countries are safe. That's something.

You Must have Democracy, even if it kills ya !

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Another Euro tells us how to live. Take him to Scotland than, he'll spice things up for you. can't be any more boring than your shitty food.

Enjoy Hillary !




And yes we know you guys love your food. We all know !




The American dream !!!!

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by crockett

Sorry but we don't need a Putin running the US

Another perfect brainwash execution by Clinton and the mainstream media: crockett now believes Trump is Putin. Congrats on not being able to think for yourself

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Enjoy Hillary !




And yes we know you guys love your food. We all know !




The American dream !!!!

We will enjoy both.
can't be fucking worst than fried fish and french fries. mayo and vinegar.
At least we have angus burgers.



Long live the Queen.

[escorpio]

Agree with OP. I don't give a fuck, I just wanna watch the show.

[DraX]

Originally Posted by crockett

Sorry but we don't need a Putin running the US.. Trump idolizes guys like Putin and other dictators.. His only plan is to use the POTUS office to stroke his ego and swindle money to himself.

Shame you didn't read between the lines. You really think Trump wants to turn U.S. into a new russia.

This is more of a stay on good foot with russia, something both european leaders and Hillary Clinton should learn from.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by DraX

Shame you didn't read between the lines. You really think Trump wants to turn U.S. into a new russia.

This is more of a stay on good foot with russia, something both european leaders and Hillary Clinton should learn from.

No I didn't say he wants to turn the US into Russia. I said he idolizes Putin and other dictators. He wants power to feed his ego and then he will use that power to steal tax payers dollars.

Just like Putin, turned his power into massive amounts of money, Trump would attempt to do the same.. Like he uses his charity for paying for personal stuff and his campaign is spending it's donations at his own businesses..

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by crockett

No I didn't say he wants to turn the US into Russia. I said he idolizes Putin and other dictators. He wants power to feed his ego and then he will use that power to steal tax payers dollars.

Just like Putin, turned his power into massive amounts of money, Trump would attempt to do the same.. Like he uses his charity for paying for personal stuff and his campaign is spending it's donations at his own businesses..

It's amazing how you see this in Trump who announced he would turn down the yearly salary as opposed to Clinton who has pretty much announced if you donate to her foundation you won't get nuked and she may even give you access to her personal server. Hell she'll fucking nuke ya even if you did. Russia's donated $100+ million and she's shitting all over them.

[Seth Manson]

Norway is looking pretty attractive to me lately.

[2MuchMark]

When Hillary wins, all Canadians will pour out of the bars and into the streets and dance up a storm.

Except for my brother. He will be on the phone to the cops. "Rigged election", etc.

sigh..

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

We will enjoy both.
can't be fucking worst than fried fish and french fries. mayo and vinegar.
At least we have angus burgers.

An obesity table without America

Yeah you win !!

[kane]

We always wonder What If. What if Gore had won and not Bush in 2000? Would we have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? Would 9/11 have happened? Would the economy have crashed and burned?

What if McCain had won instead of Obama. Would the economy be better off today than it is? Would the situation in the Middle East be better than it is? Or would all of those things be worse?

The one thing we can almost always look at is a candidate's past. Seeing what they voted for and what they did, you can get an idea of what type of President they would be. With Trump we don't have that so from a policy standpoint we are in the dark. From a temperament standpoint, I think Trump as president will spend a lot of time bashing those who don't agree with him.

[adultchatpay]

those 2 Presidential candidates reflect the current status of USA.
Going downhill....

[eric_wahlberg]

Guys,

somehow she seems to me fake. Her husband was charming, but somehow she seems to me crafty and crook.

Hope Trump wins.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by adultchatpay

those 2 Presidential candidates reflect the current status of USA.
Going downhill....

Which is why i find it hilarious when people get so pissy about Trump etc as if Hillary is the answer to everyone's problems

Both are horrific in their own very different ways. Deal with it...

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by kane

We always wonder What If.

What if McCain had won instead of Obama ?

I've always found it quite ironic that the "black lives matter" campaign (or whatever you want to call it) came about during Obama's term.

If he never got elected would it be 10x worse of would it even have started as a "thing" ?

Hmmmmmm....

[altmman]

I think Hillary will suck as a president, but Donald would be far far worse. So I'll take a sucky president over a Horrible worst-ever president who would be embarrassing to the US. At least she wont cause angry mob riots everywhere she goes like Dickhead does.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I've always found it quite ironic that the "black lives matter" campaign (or whatever you want to call it) came about during Obama's term.

If he never got elected would it be 10x worse of would it even have started as a "thing" ?

Hmmmmmm....

Here is my theory.

Black people have been shit on in this country for a very long time. I will admit, they bring a lot of it on themselves, but it does happen. Racism is real and it is very much alive in this country.

When Obama won the election, it sent a message to a lot of black people that they no longer have to just sit silently by and take shit so they started pushing back. Now, in my opinion, some of what they have said and done is misguided, but I think we are seeing a continuation of the unrest that started in the 1960's. Many black people are now voicing their anger, an anger that has been there for a long time and has just remained silent until now.

Had McCain won, I'm not sure what would have happened. I think we would still see some of it because of the growth of social media and the fact that everyone now walks around with a video camera in their pocket. I'm not so sure it would be at the level it is, though.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by kane

We always wonder What If. What if Gore had won and not Bush in 2000? Would we have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? Would 9/11 have happened? Would the economy have crashed and burned?

What if McCain had won instead of Obama. Would the economy be better off today than it is? Would the situation in the Middle East be better than it is? Or would all of those things be worse?

The one thing we can almost always look at is a candidate's past. Seeing what they voted for and what they did, you can get an idea of what type of President they would be. With Trump we don't have that so from a policy standpoint we are in the dark. From a temperament standpoint, I think Trump as president will spend a lot of time bashing those who don't agree with him.

Yes

unfortunately we have the other candidate's track record laid out in more detail than she would ever want us to. Thanks to wiki leaks and alternative sources since the media is obviously in her pocket.

Corruption of massive proportions, in the pocket of not only Wall Street and big business, but also some of the most hostile regimes in the world, war mongering, inaction and covering up many terrible and borderline criminal decisions.

Her talk about "middle class" and being a "champion" for all Americans was so incredibly fake it was beyond laughable.

I wonder if her no fly zone comment in the last debate was an improvisation trying to look like she has a plan, since I really can't imagine she would ever consult that with anybody with military background.

This would be an insane decision given the current situation, basically waiting on which side shoots down the other side's plane first. Then she could send Kerry for another dozen ten hour long meetings that will accomplish absolutely nothing, that will show them.

[klinton]

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crockett

Sorry but we don't need a Putin running the US.. Trump idolizes guys like Putin and other dictators.. His only plan is to use the POTUS office to stroke his ego and swindle money to himself.

He doesn't idolise Putin. He respects him for getting up on the US in Syria. Not that that was hard.

The US's Middle East policy was either written by the Arms Industry or morons. It has done nothing to secure it's goals and made the Middle East a worse shithole than it was.

Do you ever ask yourself why you have such shitty self-serving politicians and why these two are the least liked of all serious Presidential candidates? The answer to that one is easy, these are the ones with enough money to run a campaign. They were picked for you. A vote for Trump may just break the hold of billionaires on your Government and country.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

#1 for America again.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by altmman

At least she wont cause angry mob riots everywhere she goes like Dickhead does.

Why are there those riots? The truth is starting to come out that they were organised by the Clinton camp.

A lot of the stuff thrown out by the media reflects what the Establishment wants people to think. We see it all the time in Europe and America. The truth is most Americans and Western EU citizens are getting poorer. While the top 5% get richer and the top 1% become obscenely richer. Both Clintons have been part of that process. Who created Prime Mortgages and made lenders give money to people who couldn't repay the debt?

Who signed some crazy trade deals giving the Third World unhindered access to US markets?

Bush was just as bad going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. A constant stream of Cruise Missiles guided by Special Forces on the ground could have done a better job at wiping out the Terrorists it had helped create. The conversion from friends to enemies was aided by the CIA.

This is under the recent bunch of donkeys led by the nose by billionaires we've had running America.

What do you think Hillary will change?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kane

Here is my theory.

Black people have been shit on in this country for a very long time. I will admit, they bring a lot of it on themselves, but it does happen. Racism is real and it is very much alive in this country.

When Obama won the election, it sent a message to a lot of black people that they no longer have to just sit silently by and take shit so they started pushing back. Now, in my opinion, some of what they have said and done is misguided, but I think we are seeing a continuation of the unrest that started in the 1960's. Many black people are now voicing their anger, an anger that has been there for a long time and has just remained silent until now.

Had McCain won, I'm not sure what would have happened. I think we would still see some of it because of the growth of social media and the fact that everyone now walks around with a video camera in their pocket. I'm not so sure it would be at the level it is, though.

It's not just Black people. The bottom 50% are getting a shit deal. Because black and Latinoform the majority of the lowest percentile. They're getting screwed even harder.







This is why Trump is still in the race. Only the top 20% are enjoying the American Dream.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

#1 for America again.

Thank you sir ! Beat me to it...

[Scott McD]

Quite funny that "poor" India in 3rd though lol

We still send them millions in aid yearly...

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by altmman

At least she wont cause angry mob riots everywhere she goes like Dickhead does.

Oh so in your worldview, the victims of violent protest caused them, heh?

Black people will be happy to know you think they brought racist cops on themselves, the jews are responsible for the holocaust.

Your a token liberal moron.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

An obesity table without America

Yeah you win !!

Ye, because it makes your fat obese cows more attractive UK is legendary fr that!

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Another perfect brainwash execution by Clinton and the mainstream media: crockett now believes Trump is Putin. Congrats on not being able to think for yourself

I am laughing because I'm sure you are joking. You are joking right?

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Another Euro tells us how to live. Take him to Scotland than, he'll spice things up for you. can't be any more boring than your shitty food.

He came to Scotland, he got laughed out of the Country. He held an opening ceremony for his Golf Course, we raised Mexican flags and mocked him with balloons. Donald Trump is not welcome in Scotland, his golf course is suffering because no one plays there and he had to cut it short due to losing a legal battle with a farmer. Trump tried to force the farmer to sell him his land, farmer refused, they went to court, Trump lost and had to pay the farmer millions in compensation and we elected the farmer Scotsman of the Year.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Ye, because it makes your fat obese cows more attractive UK is legendary fr that!

That doesn't even make sense but then i wouldn't expect it to anyway...

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

Your a token liberal moron.

*you're

Know this: Donald had it and could have won this. So many people hate Hillary and Donald had the numbers, the platform and the momentum.
A month ago it looked like he might win this.
All he had to do was smile, act calm and presidential, stick to the facts, and keep his mouth shut. ANY monkey could have done this.

But he's so fucking stupid and egotistical he can't do it. He has to come across as whiny, sleazy, batshit crazy and turn off half of America because of his giant ego.
He's so inexperienced he doesn't know how to act presidential, turning more people off everyday.

He honestly should have run for mayor of NYC, governor of NY, or senator first.
Learn how the game is played. Learn how to act to win smaller elections.
But he went right for president and was unprepared for the job and it showed.

[LetterTwenty7]

God, please, even tho I am not a believer, make sure these elections end asap! Enter. I mean, AMEN!

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by altmman

*you're

Know this: Donald had it and could have won this. So many people hate Hillary and Donald had the numbers, the platform and the momentum.
A month ago it looked like he might win this.
All he had to do was smile, act calm and presidential, stick to the facts, and keep his mouth shut. ANY monkey could have done this.

But he's so fucking stupid and egotistical he can't do it. He has to come across as whiny, sleazy, batshit crazy and turn off half of America because of his giant ego.
He's so inexperienced he doesn't know how to act presidential, turning more people off everyday.

He honestly should have run for mayor of NYC, governor of NY, or senator first.
Learn how the game is played. Learn how to act to win smaller elections.
But he went right for president and was unprepared for the job and it showed.

your just singing the song of conventional wisdom...the same wisdom that said trump would never be the nominee...would never get to 1237 delegates in the primary...will never beat hilary...its all the same, obsolete, clap-trap.

odd - CNN & dumb libs call hilary the 3rd debate winner...but 2 daily tracking polls are moving trumps way...

he's gonna kick her in her balls. your just too dumb to see it coming.

[PR_Glen]

Anyone think he is trying to lose on purpose at this point? Gore made a killing after losing with speeches and dvd's etc..

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He doesn't idolise Putin. He respects him for getting up on the US in Syria. Not that that was hard.

The US's Middle East policy was either written by the Arms Industry or morons. It has done nothing to secure it's goals and made the Middle East a worse shithole than it was.

Do you ever ask yourself why you have such shitty self-serving politicians and why these two are the least liked of all serious Presidential candidates? The answer to that one is easy, these are the ones with enough money to run a campaign. They were picked for you. A vote for Trump may just break the hold of billionaires on your Government and country.

oh, so trump isn't self serving? Seriously, did someone hack your account? you are saying some seriously goofy shit here lately man..

[TheLegacy]

At the end of the day no matter who gets in - their powers are limited but I do feel that civil unrest within America will likely take place. It won't end with the election that's for sure.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by **********

When Hillary wins, all Canadians will pour out of the bars and into the streets and dance up a storm.

Except for my brother. He will be on the phone to the cops. "Rigged election", etc.

sigh..

You seem to be suffering from severe cases of "false-consensus bias" and "cult of personality". You really need to seek psychological help.




.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

That doesn't even make sense but then i wouldn't expect it to anyway...

Understandable. You are a Brit.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Ross

He came to Scotland, he got laughed out of the Country. He held an opening ceremony for his Golf Course, we raised Mexican flags and mocked him with balloons. Donald Trump is not welcome in Scotland, his golf course is suffering because no one plays there and he had to cut it short due to losing a legal battle with a farmer. Trump tried to force the farmer to sell him his land, farmer refused, they went to court, Trump lost and had to pay the farmer millions in compensation and we elected the farmer Scotsman of the Year.

Scott sims to like him. But than he thinks being fattest European country isn't that bad either.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

At the end of the day no matter who gets in - their powers are limited but I do feel that civil unrest within America will likely take place. It won't end with the election that's for sure.

I suspect the same. All one needs to take a look at the electoral map.

It's just this time, it's more than the bureaucrats and hacks in DC and their lobbyist masters wanted and expected.

The fact that people actually overwhelmingly voted for Trump as a complete outsider in the presidential race confirms one thing. His candidacy, that would otherwise, under healthy political circumstances, be likely dismissed as some sort of a reality TV stunt points at much more.

This time it's not anymore the convenient everlasting clash aka. lib vs. conservative but it's in fact the establishment vs. revolting public.

It's a revolt of common sense against lies, corruption, cooking the books, double talk and the blatantly misused cult of political correctness.

Shovel the most corrupt presidential candidate in the history down the people's throats and it's not likely to end well. I also suspect RNC, since they showed their true colors on more than one occassion and caused a major outrage among its loyal voters, to never completely recover again.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Anyone think he is trying to lose on purpose at this point?

I do. He's thinking Holy Shit my life is great, I have mansions, private planes, beautiful women throwing themselves at me , why am I giving that up for this miserable shit job? Fuck this

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Scott sims to like him. But than he thinks being fattest European country isn't that bad either.

Wrong and wrong.

You brought up food. Then tried to make out the UK had all the fatties. You were proved wrong.

Move along....

[Rochard]

In any other election I would say we would have been fine.

If McCain or Romney would have won, I think we would have been fine. The problems we were facing in 2008 and 2012 were the economy, and the only thing that would have fixed it was time. I believe we are moving in the right direction, but this is not a four or eight year problem - it's a ten or twenty year issue. With McCain or Romney in office we would pretty much be in the same place we are now.

With Hillary I see more of the same. Our economy is getting better, unemployment is down, and we aren't getting into any new wars. Great.

With Trump.... It would be one disaster after another. He'll make a single snarky comment ("Nasty Woman", "Bad Hombres") and it will dominate the news for the next week and him and his staff will spend the next week scrambling to control the news cycle. Because he has no political experience at all, it will be a huge uphill task to get anything done. I mean, it's already an uphill task for the President to get anything done but with Trump and his lack of experience it will be ten times worse. Imagine Trump trying to get someone nominated to the Supreme Court - It will be one problem after the other. Then right in the middle of all of this we'll have some kind of lawsuit or issue Trump will be fighting - he is constantly in lawsuits - and that won't help either. Then the moment we have any kind of a crisis, natural disaster, it will be completely fumbled. Trump just doesn't understand how our government works. He seems to think being President is like being the king and it just doesn't work that way.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

In any other election I would say we would have been fine.

If McCain or Romney would have won, I think we would have been fine. The problems we were facing in 2008 and 2012 were the economy, and the only thing that would have fixed it was time. I believe we are moving in the right direction, but this is not a four or eight year problem - it's a ten or twenty year issue. With McCain or Romney in office we would pretty much be in the same place we are now.

With Hillary I see more of the same. Our economy is getting better, unemployment is down, and we aren't getting into any new wars. Great.

With Trump.... It would be one disaster after another. He'll make a single snarky comment ("Nasty Woman", "Bad Hombres") and it will dominate the news for the next week and him and his staff will spend the next week scrambling to control the news cycle. Because he has no political experience at all, it will be a huge uphill task to get anything done. I mean, it's already an uphill task for the President to get anything done but with Trump and his lack of experience it will be ten times worse. Imagine Trump trying to get someone nominated to the Supreme Court - It will be one problem after the other. Then right in the middle of all of this we'll have some kind of lawsuit or issue Trump will be fighting - he is constantly in lawsuits - and that won't help either. Then the moment we have any kind of a crisis, natural disaster, it will be completely fumbled. Trump just doesn't understand how our government works. He seems to think being President is like being the king and it just doesn't work that way.

Agree 100% with everything you just wrote.
If he really really wanted to be president then he would be a Governor or a Senator first, but he wont. He wants to go from zero to president.

Even Ronald Reagan was a governor of California for 8 years first so he could learn the job before running for president.

[Quine]

Originally Posted by Rochard

With Hillary I see more of the same. Our economy is getting better, unemployment is down, and we aren't getting into any new wars. Great.

Afghanistan, Iraq, war in Yemen, war in Syria, warmongering with Russia. But at least Guantanamo is closed.