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Old 11-12-2016, 12:30 AM   #1
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The Electoral College vote on Dec 19 will prevent Trump from being Prez

...possible? Probably?
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Nope. Not even a chance really, their's a great article explaining mathematically why, I can't find it right now.

I think it's the wrong thing to do unless Trump does something wildly fucked up that both sides find astonishing.
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I think the majority of people wish upon a star too much. He's president, people have to like it. I endured Obama for the past 8 years. I put my big boy pants on and went through life.
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Nope. Not even a chance really, their's a great article explaining mathematically why, I can't find it right now.

I think it's the wrong thing to do unless Trump does something wildly fucked up that both sides find astonishing.
Not only that, but Congress would have to approve it which is never going to happen. I am not a Trump supporter but these protesters are a pathetic bunch of self entitled losers. You lost . Get over it and move on.
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Not only that, but Congress would have to approve it which is never going to happen. I am not a Trump supporter but these protesters are a pathetic bunch of self entitled losers. You lost . Get over it and move on.
I agree. The media spoon feeding false hope of turning the electoral college is wrong, as is them blowing up the people protesting all day and saying Trump has to fix it.

The reality is Obama is currently president and needs to calm people and redirect their protesting to volunteering for organizations that are trying to fascilitate the change they want
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I agree. The media spoon feeding false hope of turning the electoral college is wrong, as is them blowing up the people protesting all day and saying Trump has to fix it.

The reality is Obama is currently president and needs to calm people and redirect their protesting to volunteering for organizations that are trying to fascilitate the change they want
I agree with this mostly. Although I think this is Trump's chance via his actions and appointments to telegraph that things will be ok. Not sure they will be, but it would be pretty easy for him to telegraph what he might do.

I think his Obamacare stance has been thoughtful so far. I am not sure it will last, but is shows some interesting sides of him. My biggest concern is when he does go off the rails on twitter, Pence's influence and his ability to not get sucked in to policies written by the uber conservative think tanks. I think this is where HRC experience would help, he is way to busy to read and comprehend what he is probably signing off on.
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I think it's the wrong thing to do unless Trump does something wildly fucked up that both sides find astonishing.
You mean like getting elected president despite being a narcissistic douche imbecile?
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...possible? Probably?
grow the fuck up asshole, trump won, so get the fuck over it and move on.
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There have been 9 times in the past 100 years where someone in the electoral college voted for someone else, and has never affected the outcome.
Last time was when someone voted for John Edwards instead of Kerry for some reason..
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There have been 9 times in the past 100 years where someone in the electoral college voted for someone else, and has never affected the outcome.
Last time was when someone voted for John Edwards instead of Kerry for some reason..
you have to admit...this is a very different situation.
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Last time was when someone voted for John Edwards instead of Kerry for some reason..
That was me. I liked his stance on baby mamas.
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Anything is possible, but unlikely. You get Texas to switch over and there is a chance.
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Anything is possible, but unlikely. You get Texas to switch over and there is a chance.

Around 30 Republican electors would have to flip their votes to drop Trump to 269. There are already some Republican electors who have said they would not vote Trump. Flipping 30 might be doable. Kasich in Ohio, cCain in Arizona, and Graham in South Carolina might be able to flip some of their voters even without any help from Clinton.
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Around 30 Republican electors would have to flip their votes to drop Trump to 269. There are already some Republican electors who have said they would not vote Trump. Flipping 30 might be doable. Kasich in Ohio, cCain in Arizona, and Graham in South Carolina might be able to flip some of their voters even without any help from Clinton.
Such a pipe dream. These guys are party stalwarts. They'd need 37 or 38 votes and all they have is two and possibly three people who have said they wouldn't vote for *Clinton*. Not one republican has said they'd do it. Plus, that would amount to a coup. The House would vote Trump in.

If this is what the democrats are bringing I'm worried we won't see another presidency for 12 years or more.
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you have to admit...this is a very different situation.
why is it a different situation? because someone lots of people hated won the election. the same thing could have been said if clinton won. people need to come to grip with the fact that they are going to have a president they dont like and who they think does not have the nation's best interest at heart. Welcome to the world of many millions of americans since 2008. hopefully trump will not have a shitty shameful record of that person. grow up and quit fucking crying.
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why is it a different situation? because someone lots of people hated won the election. the same thing could have been said if clinton won. people need to come to grip with the fact that they are going to have a president they dont like and who they think does not have the nation's best interest at heart. Welcome to the world of many millions of americans since 2008. hopefully trump will not have a shitty shameful record of that person. grow up and quit fucking crying.
It's a different situation because the president elect is a morally and ethically bankrupt internet troll. Is that enough for you?
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It's a different situation because the president elect is a morally and ethically bankrupt internet troll. Is that enough for you?
So true! He watches Morning Joe in the morning, as do I. If Joe Scarboroug is discussing Trump and Trump want to give input he'll tweet a response to the topic. Trump is a troll no doubt, for this and other obvious reasons
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I think the majority of people wish upon a star too much. He's president, people have to like it. I endured Obama for the past 8 years. I put my big boy pants on and went through life.
What was so difficult about it? Was it the whole saving the economy from the Bush disaster thing? Or maybe you didn't like that thing where Osama Bin Laden was killed by a surgical commando team when Bush used a sledgehammer in Iraq costing thousands of American lives? Don't worry dude, an old white man is going back in to save you from the liberal hellscape created by Obama. Maybe he'll set us back a few decades and then you'll be happier.
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You are hoping democracy will turn into even bigger joke than it already is? Do you even realize what you are hoping for?
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You are hoping democracy will turn into even bigger joke than it already is? Do you even realize what you are hoping for?
Majority rules is what they're hoping for.

The presidency is the only elected public office where they use an electoral college system for the winner.

All other elected offices in America that are not appointed are decided by majority vote.

I think people find it shady that a majority doesn't decide the most powerful office in the land, but 538 people do a month after people vote.

People from all over the country are in big population areas, it's not like they're in a born & raised big city bubble.
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Majority rules is what they're hoping for.

The presidency is the only elected public office where they use an electoral college system for the winner.

All other elected offices in America that are not appointed are decided by majority vote.

I think people find it shady that a majority doesn't decide the most powerful office in the land, but 538 people do a month after people vote.

People from all over the country are in big population areas, it's not like they're in a born & raised big city bubble.
rules have been known before the election, election was held, people voted, winner was announced... seems pretty final to me, nothing debatable about it...

for next election there could be a debate and rules could possibly be changed, that's fair enough... but don't you think it's a bit nuts to even consider changing the rules for the current election after the fact?

this whole election drama is like attempting to change the rules of football after the superbowl, claiming "my team had more total yards, clearly they are a better team! they should be declared superbowl champions!"
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