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Old 11-29-2016, 07:35 AM   #101
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:43 AM   #102
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Otherwise, once the site is online, it's easy to copy.
Has it ever occurred to you that this is exactly why the smart people here don't post links to their sites or reveal their business model?



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Old 11-29-2016, 07:50 AM   #103
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So post links to your sites so we can see what you do.

Yes, I'm retired. But using that as the only excuse to trash what I say is pointless, especially when you don't make public what you do.
Postings links to personal successful sites here is like being in a pool of sharks and being asked to cut your leg. Every Content creator that's been here for a while knows this.

I'm not using your retirement to trash what you say. I respect my elders that's why I'm being kind and gentle with you. In the past you've also done many respectable knoble things in the industry and I remember that.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:44 AM   #104
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You saw her lately??? Looks like a guy and has new grapefruits for boobs...



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Old 11-29-2016, 05:56 PM   #105
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Let's not pretend your retirement was anything other than age & health issues. You chat as if you made your fortune and chose to retire, when that couldn't be further from what happened.

You failed miserably online, you fail miserably with all your threads, you failed miserably with your magic join links thread, you failed miserably when in 2007/8 you said "thats 100k uniues a month!!! Do you know ANYONE with that much traffic??' (sadly you were banned from the pond for being a huge douche, so you actually get away with that line to those who weren't around/active on the pond back then, but trust me a ton of us saw it and laughed our little bollocks off) when you stopped affs hotlinking your hotlinked 30Kb banner as it was killing your bandwidth.

You failed miserably when you tried to understand traffic.

You failed miserably when you tried to school anyone and everyone on traffic for the last 12 years.

You failed miserably at literally everything you touched online. You are so out of touch it isn't funny, and seem to think you can equate internet porn surfers with office furniture leads, or hell, the old time porn consumers who had to make a special outing many miles away instead of clicking a mouse even in the tgp days.

You failed miserably when you tried to school Barry on cams.

You failed miserably when you attempted to call anyone who tried to educate you a 'liar' because they don't want to send a stupid old cunt such as yourself their finances, private urls, invite-only programs, and whatever other nonsense you demanded of them because you have literally zero clue of the money being made - whether that was 2005 or last week.

You failed miserably when caught up in lies (see magic join links train wreck), you failed miserably when logging on from the same IP as a 'customer' to praise your own content on the pond with a fake nick, until outed by Aga (what thick cunt doesn't realise IPs are logged on forums lol).

You fucking suck at everything except being a former content provider back when competition was pretty much non-existent, and you fucking suck for never once having the balls to do what you so often demand of others and show your earnings, even though you are the one claiming you made a fortune and were 'able' to retire, instead of the reality where you *had* to retire.

You spread lies, misinformation, out-your-ass guesses, and proclaim them as facts, with a trademark 'prove me wrong' as your 'argument', to people who give literally zero fucks about you, what you do, or your 'input' on things you know fuck all about.

And yes, I failed miserably with my first paysite attempt. It sucked. Unlike you, I learned from that, and listened to people far wiser than me. Because sometimes, you need to shut the fuck up and listen, instead of trying to prove something you'll never, ever be.

The worst part is some people on here actually think you have a dram of knowledge, when in reality you are actively feeding them info detrimental to their business growth. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself. You're most likely much like the rest of us, generally a good bloke, no doubt a great family member, you try to be a good husband/father, and so on. All admirable traits, and only the extremely petty would knock anyone for that. On here however, and every board I've had the misfortune to read you on, you're the pub bore... the guy who thinks he knows best when 99% of people in the room know he is full of shit. The guy who thinks he is impressing everyone, when he is impressing only those that don't know him, or don't know enough to spot the tons of bullshit dribbling out of his mouth.

What are you, 70? And you still haven't learned the life lesson that sometimes people have things to teach you, all you need to do is be willing to learn? To be teachable. What a waste.
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:49 PM   #106
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Let's not pretend your retirement was anything other than age & health issues. You chat as if you made your fortune and chose to retire, when that couldn't be further from what happened.

You failed miserably online, you fail miserably with all your threads, you failed miserably with your magic join links thread, you failed miserably when in 2007/8 you said "thats 100k uniues a month!!! Do you know ANYONE with that much traffic??' (sadly you were banned from the pond for being a huge douche, so you actually get away with that line to those who weren't around/active on the pond back then, but trust me a ton of us saw it and laughed our little bollocks off) when you stopped affs hotlinking your hotlinked 30Kb banner as it was killing your bandwidth.

You failed miserably when you tried to understand traffic.

You failed miserably when you tried to school anyone and everyone on traffic for the last 12 years.

You failed miserably at literally everything you touched online. You are so out of touch it isn't funny, and seem to think you can equate internet porn surfers with office furniture leads, or hell, the old time porn consumers who had to make a special outing many miles away instead of clicking a mouse even in the tgp days.

You failed miserably when you tried to school Barry on cams.

You failed miserably when you attempted to call anyone who tried to educate you a 'liar' because they don't want to send a stupid old cunt such as yourself their finances, private urls, invite-only programs, and whatever other nonsense you demanded of them because you have literally zero clue of the money being made - whether that was 2005 or last week.

You failed miserably when caught up in lies (see magic join links train wreck), you failed miserably when logging on from the same IP as a 'customer' to praise your own content on the pond with a fake nick, until outed by Aga (what thick cunt doesn't realise IPs are logged on forums lol).

You fucking suck at everything except being a former content provider back when competition was pretty much non-existent, and you fucking suck for never once having the balls to do what you so often demand of others and show your earnings, even though you are the one claiming you made a fortune and were 'able' to retire, instead of the reality where you *had* to retire.

You spread lies, misinformation, out-your-ass guesses, and proclaim them as facts, with a trademark 'prove me wrong' as your 'argument', to people who give literally zero fucks about you, what you do, or your 'input' on things you know fuck all about.

And yes, I failed miserably with my first paysite attempt. It sucked. Unlike you, I learned from that, and listened to people far wiser than me. Because sometimes, you need to shut the fuck up and listen, instead of trying to prove something you'll never, ever be.

The worst part is some people on here actually think you have a dram of knowledge, when in reality you are actively feeding them info detrimental to their business growth. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself. You're most likely much like the rest of us, generally a good bloke, no doubt a great family member, you try to be a good husband/father, and so on. All admirable traits, and only the extremely petty would knock anyone for that. On here however, and every board I've had the misfortune to read you on, you're the pub bore... the guy who thinks he knows best when 99% of people in the room know he is full of shit. The guy who thinks he is impressing everyone, when he is impressing only those that don't know him, or don't know enough to spot the tons of bullshit dribbling out of his mouth.

What are you, 70? And you still haven't learned the life lesson that sometimes people have things to teach you, all you need to do is be willing to learn? To be teachable. What a waste.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:50 AM   #107
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Let's not pretend your retirement was anything other than age & health issues. You chat as if you made your fortune and chose to retire, when that couldn't be further from what happened.

You failed miserably online, you fail miserably with all your threads, you failed miserably with your magic join links thread, you failed miserably when in 2007/8 you said "thats 100k uniues a month!!! Do you know ANYONE with that much traffic??' (sadly you were banned from the pond for being a huge douche, so you actually get away with that line to those who weren't around/active on the pond back then, but trust me a ton of us saw it and laughed our little bollocks off) when you stopped affs hotlinking your hotlinked 30Kb banner as it was killing your bandwidth.

You failed miserably when you tried to understand traffic.

You failed miserably when you tried to school anyone and everyone on traffic for the last 12 years.

You failed miserably at literally everything you touched online. You are so out of touch it isn't funny, and seem to think you can equate internet porn surfers with office furniture leads, or hell, the old time porn consumers who had to make a special outing many miles away instead of clicking a mouse even in the tgp days.

You failed miserably when you tried to school Barry on cams.

You failed miserably when you attempted to call anyone who tried to educate you a 'liar' because they don't want to send a stupid old cunt such as yourself their finances, private urls, invite-only programs, and whatever other nonsense you demanded of them because you have literally zero clue of the money being made - whether that was 2005 or last week.

You failed miserably when caught up in lies (see magic join links train wreck), you failed miserably when logging on from the same IP as a 'customer' to praise your own content on the pond with a fake nick, until outed by Aga (what thick cunt doesn't realise IPs are logged on forums lol).

You fucking suck at everything except being a former content provider back when competition was pretty much non-existent, and you fucking suck for never once having the balls to do what you so often demand of others and show your earnings, even though you are the one claiming you made a fortune and were 'able' to retire, instead of the reality where you *had* to retire.

You spread lies, misinformation, out-your-ass guesses, and proclaim them as facts, with a trademark 'prove me wrong' as your 'argument', to people who give literally zero fucks about you, what you do, or your 'input' on things you know fuck all about.

And yes, I failed miserably with my first paysite attempt. It sucked. Unlike you, I learned from that, and listened to people far wiser than me. Because sometimes, you need to shut the fuck up and listen, instead of trying to prove something you'll never, ever be.

The worst part is some people on here actually think you have a dram of knowledge, when in reality you are actively feeding them info detrimental to their business growth. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself. You're most likely much like the rest of us, generally a good bloke, no doubt a great family member, you try to be a good husband/father, and so on. All admirable traits, and only the extremely petty would knock anyone for that. On here however, and every board I've had the misfortune to read you on, you're the pub bore... the guy who thinks he knows best when 99% of people in the room know he is full of shit. The guy who thinks he is impressing everyone, when he is impressing only those that don't know him, or don't know enough to spot the tons of bullshit dribbling out of his mouth.

What are you, 70? And you still haven't learned the life lesson that sometimes people have things to teach you, all you need to do is be willing to learn? To be teachable. What a waste.
Do you have access to my bank accounts?

Your paysite failed for the reasons I told you. The content was shit, but all you could afford.

100,000 Uniques per day is shit if it's on a site converting 1-50,000 or one that requires buying traffic. It's great on a site 1-100.

I know people have something to teach me. They have to show me what they do now first. And that's the problem, I see around me proof the porn industry is shrinking for the reasons I predicted way back. Was it just luck I predicted free porn would be such a threat? Does that make me full of shit?

If you have anything to teach me, other than telling it like it is. Feel free post away. There are many who would love to learn, not just me. Or are your skills a secret?
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:25 AM   #108
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Has it ever occurred to you that this is exactly why the smart people here don't post links to their sites or reveal their business model?
So your site is easy to copy, so not a good idea.

When we were shooting we had Katka, Jana, and my wife who could answer the phone to girls applying to came to our castings. 9 out of 10 of these were new girls. We could sell a set of 20 images of new girls for $400 or a set of 100 for up to $3,000. Then shoot the good ones for up to 20 sets all worth $3,000 each.

I never posted the key element. They had to be new girls, not girls I had already shot. To stop other shooters finding the easy money on the table.

So I'm well aware of keeping the key elements secret.

But I made it no secret that magazines were paying big money and a lot of online shooters tried to imitate me and lost money. Showing editors sets of girls I had already sold them 2-10 sets of.

That's my point of having something everyone can't copy by just seeing it.

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Thank you.

It still stands the good ideas are hard to copy if they want to stay good ideas. Which is why so many with sites that are easy to copy, are keeping quiet.

I'm willing to discuss how to implement my ideas. A recent sniper complained she couldn't do it because her crew work for Disney, LOL, and can't afford the exposure. So don't shoot the crew, it's the models the public want to see. Shooting BTS isn't hard. Shooting it to make it interesting needs planning and personality behind the camera, to bring out the personality of those in front of the camera. That's the hard part.

Editing is easy, hosting easy, writing text to bring SE traffic easy, repeat and updates are constant. Reality sells, porn sells, girls sell, this has been done successfully. The only thing stopping people is their own negativity, confidence or skills. The boost for affiliates who do blogs should be enough for the better sites to pick up the idea.

So far no one has said why it can't work. Only they can't do it.

All it needs is elevating. https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAM%253D&q=BTS+porn From this into a site dedicated to it with select studios capable of making it look good and more personal with the girls.
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Do you have access to my bank accounts?

Your paysite failed for the reasons I told you. The content was shit, but all you could afford.

100,000 Uniques per day is shit if it's on a site converting 1-50,000 or one that requires buying traffic. It's great on a site 1-100.

I know people have something to teach me. They have to show me what they do now first. And that's the problem, I see around me proof the porn industry is shrinking for the reasons I predicted way back. Was it just luck I predicted free porn would be such a threat? Does that make me full of shit?

If you have anything to teach me, other than telling it like it is. Feel free post away. There are many who would love to learn, not just me. Or are your skills a secret?


content was fine, dumbass, but yet again you assume you know why I call it a failure. People who know their shit told me why, it had nothing to do with the content.

More numbers pulled out of your ass... you didn't believe anyone had 100k uniques a fucking MONTH in 2006/7, you don't believe anyone on this board, or any board, who give you numbers, because you truly have no idea. Ringing the affiliate's place of work because he made too many impressions on your hotlinkable banner, w t f

Teach you? I wouldn't waste my time in 2006 on you, I sure as shit wouldn't do so in 2016. Damn right my skills are secret on public boards, because the real teachable people will go out and copycat - why the fuck would I give that away when I don't get a mutual benefit?

The difference is though, I'm not on here day in day out preaching to people how they are all doing it wrong - especially people who DO prove they walk the walk, they just don't feel the need to prove it to people like you.

Carry on though, it's funny as fuck to everyone who is anyone
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So your site is easy to copy, so not a good idea.
I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are actually that fucking stupid.
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content was fine, dumbass, but yet again you assume you know why I call it a failure. People who know their shit told me why, it had nothing to do with the content.

More numbers pulled out of your ass... you didn't believe anyone had 100k uniques a fucking MONTH in 2006/7, you don't believe anyone on this board, or any board, who give you numbers, because you truly have no idea. Ringing the affiliate's place of work because he made too many impressions on your hotlinkable banner, w t f

Teach you? I wouldn't waste my time in 2006 on you, I sure as shit wouldn't do so in 2016. Damn right my skills are secret on public boards, because the real teachable people will go out and copycat - why the fuck would I give that away when I don't get a mutual benefit?

The difference is though, I'm not on here day in day out preaching to people how they are all doing it wrong - especially people who DO prove they walk the walk, they just don't feel the need to prove it to people like you.

Carry on though, it's funny as fuck to everyone who is anyone
You spent time posting this shit. Clearly, you have nothing to offer but insist on offering nothing too often.
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I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are actually that fucking stupid.
Just because I talk over your head don't assume I'm the idiot.

What you have to do is counter my point.

That's what most trolls can't do. Just endless pointless abuse.
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content was fine, dumbass, but yet again you assume you know why I call it a failure. People who know their shit told me why, it had nothing to do with the content.
As someone who spent more on producing content in a day than you spent on that site, I don't assume. I know the content was shit. The niche was shit and because of that, there was so little produced and buy and what there was was either out of your league or shit. You couldn't afford to buy good custom content.

The design was shit because you couldn't afford to buy a decent one.

Obviously, you're not good enough at driving traffic to sell shit. That's probably what you were told.

You're a small time, big mouth, affiliate. You've never shown anything of worth because you have nothing. As for my retirement, I made it past the post and will never need to work again. I doubt if you can prove you're able to do the same. Saying you own a great site. Is easy, proving it is hard.

As Google Expert would say.
I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are actually that fucking stupid.
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