When did incest become mainstream?

[mlove]

It seems like pseudo-incest content has become more mainstream during the past couple of years. Anyone have any theories on how/when this became more acceptable? For a while, it was considered completely off-limits, the same way rape content was off-limits.

[Bladewire]

It started with The Shining
























The ritualistic sacrifice was first presented in the "Ritual Scene" in Eyes Wide Shut,

another Stanley Kubrick film.

[onwebcam]

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I like the little ones

[ZENRA]

Mainstream as in more popular in porn or non-adult media?

For adult at least has it ever not been popular?

[mlove]

Originally Posted by ZENRA

Mainstream as in more popular in porn or non-adult media?

For adult at least has it ever not been popular?

I'm referring to porn, but I can see non-adult tolerance of a subject furthering what is common in the adult industry.

As far as your second point, the commonality it depends on the culture of the market you are referring to. Your profile says that you are in Japan, and I believe the japanese industry has been pushing the direction of acceptable perversion that the rest of the porn industry follows.

I've mainly noticed it becoming more popular in my daily duties as a sysadmin for a large adult hosting provider. This past year and a half, we have been seeing more and more incest-related domains popping up, with these markets targeting western users.

[ZENRA]

Originally Posted by mlove

I'm referring to porn, but I can see non-adult tolerance of a subject furthering what is common in the adult industry.

As far as your second point, the commonality it depends on the culture of the market you are referring to. Your profile says that you are in Japan, and I believe the japanese industry has been pushing the direction of acceptable perversion that the rest of the porn industry follows.

I've mainly noticed it becoming more popular in my daily duties as a sysadmin for a large adult hosting provider. This past year and a half, we have been seeing more and more incest-related domains popping up, with these markets targeting western users.

I guess then it's becoming more popular (in the west) recently?

It's crazy how straight-up incest themes are still proscribed in USA. Everything I see is 'step-' this and 'step-' that when everyone watching is definitely omitting that card-processing necessity from their fantasies.

I think there are very few people who truly are sexually attracted to their nuclear family, cousins, etc. It's just the taboo and forbidden nature of incest porn that turns them on.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mlove

I'm referring to porn, but I can see non-adult tolerance of a subject furthering what is common in the adult industry.

As far as your second point, the commonality it depends on the culture of the market you are referring to. Your profile says that you are in Japan, and I believe the japanese industry has been pushing the direction of acceptable perversion that the rest of the porn industry follows.

I've mainly noticed it becoming more popular in my daily duties as a sysadmin for a large adult hosting provider. This past year and a half, we have been seeing more and more incest-related domains popping up, with these markets targeting western users.

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[romeo22]

Time is getting more strange

[MiamiBoyz]

[Look Chang]

Common story:

A boy is fucking his sister and says: "Damn, you're much better than mum."
His sister replies: "Yeah, dad thinks so, too."

But seriously, I think my uncle was a ventriloquist, He used to put his hand up my bum and tell me not to talk...

[Her-Sson]

Society started embracing and exploring taboos more then before.

[CaptainHowdy]

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by mlove

It seems like pseudo-incest content has become more mainstream during the past couple of years. Anyone have any theories on how/when this became more acceptable? For a while, it was considered completely off-limits, the same way rape content was off-limits.

Masturbation is the new heroin. The more you do it, the more extreme porn you need to get off.

It's not enough these days to see a pretty girl, or maybe 2 lesbians make out...or even a guy fuck a girl in the ass... OH MY! LOL

Today, they need to watch a guy fuck his mom, or fuck his sister while his aunt watches, anything to push the limit to get off. (like a junkie, needing a stronger fix each time to get off)

My question and concern is this: What is more depraved than incest? Where is it all leading?? Will it... and could it... lead back to people fucking people in REAL LIFE? ahhh!!!!! say it ain't so!!!! Now that is really extreme.

No, I figure, after the whole incest fad has peaked, Beastiality will be the new "thing." That is lower and much more depraved than incest.

Just think of it... watching your favorite HOT 19 year old porn star sucking off dogs and horses... you think that is crazy?? Well, I've already seen major porn stars role playing fucking their moms, dads and brothers, so why not dogs and horses???

I figure about 2 to 4 more years and you'll see cosplay animal fucking turn into real animal fucking. Maybe using fake dicks at first.... then the real deal will follow....

THEN... you'll see porn titles like: "I fucked my neighbor's dog" and "Dad bought me a new horse" all with stunning porn models.

Proof: Remember in the 70's and 80's when they had "taboo" videos... with cheap ass, ugly women. Today... stunning hot sexy beautiful models have no problem fucking their dads, moms, cousins, brothers.... you name it. And now, when you see animal sex, it's done by the stankiest ugly women ever... but, you will see that soon change, just like the incest market did.

That's where I see it going. The sickest nastiness shit you can think is soon on it's way.

Family sex? LOL that's so old school. Wait until Alexis Texas goes down on a collie. They'll call it "Alexis & Lassie Together Again"

So enjoy the incest for now.... the real sick ass shit is just around the corner.

It's just gets sicker and sicker and sicker... like in the Roman days, just before the fall of the Empire. But instead of the Roman Empire, it's the entire fucking planet.

[Linkster]

Family relations has been a leading seller in porn forever - and yes even in the west...back in the 1960s you could go in any store on 42nd St in Manhatten and the leading seller in mags and books, as well as 8mm films were family oriented titles - and has been around in well-selling affiliate programs on the internet for years.

Not really sure why anyone would think that this is a recent trend? It's been making good money for years

[davidCRM]

game of thrones maybe?

[Etology_Sahar]

"so you re an incestphobe?"

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Etology_Sahar

"so you re an incestphobe?"

[TheLegacy]

As mentioned before - this isn't new for porn. The 70s had a lot of it and it was acceptable back then. Just went underground when the 80s - 90s rolled around and everyone was confused. Movies from Hollywood didn't exactly walk away from the topic

IMDb: incest movies - a list by nagendrain

Just some of them - hell even Star Wars had it if you really think about it. Blue Lagoon etc. the list goes on.

In the end - over the years I've found that it wasn't the old guard of the industry that cared but the newcomers who have a sense of entitlement and need to be seen are the ones who speak the loudest.

[MK Ultra]

1982

[Bladewire]

The Dukes of Hazard 1979

A brother, sister & their cousin. A nuanced non-stop 3 way incest fuckfest every Friday night for years.

[beerptrol]

It's always been popular Taboo and it's spin offs come to mind. I think now you have more big porn companies making them hence a greater volume of fake incest movies

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Look Chang

Common story:

A boy is fucking his sister and says: "Damn, you're much better than mum."
His sister replies: "Yeah, dad thinks so, too."

But seriously, I think my uncle was a ventriloquist, He used to put his hand up my bum and tell me not to talk...

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

duh

I can't believe you work in this industry and just posted a video comparing incest to gay marriage... that is so fucked up.

all based on what? your hatred for a single political party? Hate to remind you, your avatar implies you hate both sides, have you forgotten to update?

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

Masturbation is the new heroin. The more you do it, the more extreme porn you need to get off.

It's not enough these days to see a pretty girl, or maybe 2 lesbians make out...or even a guy fuck a girl in the ass... OH MY! LOL

Today, they need to watch a guy fuck his mom, or fuck his sister while his aunt watches, anything to push the limit to get off. (like a junkie, needing a stronger fix each time to get off)

My question and concern is this: What is more depraved than incest? Where is it all leading?? Will it... and could it... lead back to people fucking people in REAL LIFE? ahhh!!!!! say it ain't so!!!! Now that is really extreme.

No, I figure, after the whole incest fad has peaked, Beastiality will be the new "thing." That is lower and much more depraved than incest.

Just think of it... watching your favorite HOT 19 year old porn star sucking off dogs and horses... you think that is crazy?? Well, I've already seen major porn stars role playing fucking their moms, dads and brothers, so why not dogs and horses???

I figure about 2 to 4 more years and you'll see cosplay animal fucking turn into real animal fucking. Maybe using fake dicks at first.... then the real deal will follow....

THEN... you'll see porn titles like: "I fucked my neighbor's dog" and "Dad bought me a new horse" all with stunning porn models.

Proof: Remember in the 70's and 80's when they had "taboo" videos... with cheap ass, ugly women. Today... stunning hot sexy beautiful models have no problem fucking their dads, moms, cousins, brothers.... you name it. And now, when you see animal sex, it's done by the stankiest ugly women ever... but, you will see that soon change, just like the incest market did.

That's where I see it going. The sickest nastiness shit you can think is soon on it's way.

Family sex? LOL that's so old school. Wait until Alexis Texas goes down on a collie. They'll call it "Alexis & Lassie Together Again"

So enjoy the incest for now.... the real sick ass shit is just around the corner.

It's just gets sicker and sicker and sicker... like in the Roman days, just before the fall of the Empire. But instead of the Roman Empire, it's the entire fucking planet.

In many countries Beatiality porn is legal and you don't see that much of it where it is so the demand is actually quite small.

Beastiality is not incest. Incest involves 2 or more related individuals. Clearly incest has been to topic of porn since porn existed and once again, it is a relatively (pun intended) small niche and nothing new. Sons fucking sister or father daughter is has been around since porn was on VHS but it's fantasy and these actors are not actually related.

Most people simply are not drawn to deviant sex as your addiction analogy implies because they need more and more sex to get off and therefore it must become extreme. Clearly you are speaking for yourself because the evidence simply doesn't support your claims.

Anything that causes pleasure in the brain with the release of endorphins can cause a person to seek more of that activity for the release. A woman might develop a strong "addiction" for shopping because it brings the same satisfaction.

Very simple and you are wrong.

The easy access to porn has caused younger men (and some not so young) to prefer it to real sex but this is easy to explain. The pleasure that they get by having an endless supply of porn gives them the ability to give themselves off and this masturbation is just pleasureable as having sex with another real person by without the hassle of finding a willing partner...instant gratification which is what technology (smartphones, broadband) allows.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

Beastiality will be the new "thing." That is lower and much more depraved than incest.

Just think of it... watching your favorite HOT 19 year old porn star sucking off dogs and horses... you think that is crazy?? Well, I've already seen major porn stars role playing fucking their moms, dads and brothers, so why not dogs and horses???

Wait until Alexis Texas goes down on a collie. They'll call it "Alexis & Lassie Together Again"

.

Interesting that you picked up on the fact that an Alexis tape on a collie would be completely legal in the state of Texas by both federal and Texas state law

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Beastiality is not incest. Incest involves 2 or more related individuals.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK. I never wrote Beastiality was incest. Learn to read.

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Most people simply are not drawn to deviant sex as your addiction analogy implies because they need more and more sex to get off and therefore it must become extreme. Clearly you are speaking for yourself because the evidence simply doesn't support your claims.

Not drawn to deviant sex?? THE EVIDENCE?? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?? Have you seen the porn on the internet?? You're a moron. It's ALL deviant sex acts. I think you are in your early 20's or something because you must be so used to deviant sex acts, that it's normal to you and you don't know what the difference is.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

NO SHIT SHERLOCK. I never wrote Beastiality was incest. Learn to read.



Not drawn to deviant sex?? THE EVIDENCE?? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?? Have you seen the porn on the internet?? You're a moron. It's ALL deviant sex acts. I think you are in your early 20's or something because you must be so used to deviant sex acts, that it's normal to you and you don't know what the difference is.

Relax, he's a provocateur.

[freecartoonporn]

supply and demand.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

NO SHIT SHERLOCK. I never wrote Beastiality was incest. Learn to read.

Well unless it was the family dog

[Konda]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

In many countries Beatiality porn is legal and you don't see that much of it where it is so the demand is actually quite small.

The reason you don't see much of it is because Visa and Mastercard don't want to process for it. When they still did there was a lot of bestiality (these sites were doing 1000+ paysites sales a DAY). If it was legal in the US and Visa and MC would still process for it every tube would be full of bestiality banners.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Konda

The reason you don't see much of it is because Visa and Mastercard don't want to process for it. When they still did there was a lot of bestiality (these sites were doing 1000+ paysites sales a DAY). If it was legal in the US and Visa and MC would still process for it every tube would be full of bestiality banners.

It is legal in the US - the only law that currently exists at the federal level is you can't produce it with underage models (human of course)

The Feds defer to the states for statutes on this - and quite a few do not have laws against it - including Texas as I mentioned earlier... the only place you might get into trouble is with interstate commerce to a state that does have laws against it

[Look Chang]

Incest ? Hmm... As long as it does not come out of the family...

[brassmonkey]

the lyrics are insane! always luved the song

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by mlove

I'm referring to porn, but I can see non-adult tolerance of a subject furthering what is common in the adult industry.

As far as your second point, the commonality it depends on the culture of the market you are referring to. Your profile says that you are in Japan, and I believe the japanese industry has been pushing the direction of acceptable perversion that the rest of the porn industry follows.

I've mainly noticed it becoming more popular in my daily duties as a sysadmin for a large adult hosting provider. This past year and a half, we have been seeing more and more incest-related domains popping up, with these markets targeting western users.

It's all relative.

[ufotestpilot]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Family relations has been a leading seller in porn forever - and yes even in the west...back in the 1960s you could go in any store on 42nd St in Manhatten and the leading seller in mags and books, as well as 8mm films were family oriented titles - and has been around in well-selling affiliate programs on the internet for years.

Not really sure why anyone would think that this is a recent trend? It's been making good money for years

Most of you have been doing this longer than me, but I like classic porn. I think Taboo and Taboo 2 were pretty big in their day. I've seen 2 and its just an average porn flick.

[ufotestpilot]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

Masturbation is the new heroin. The more you do it, the more extreme porn you need to get off.

It's not enough these days to see a pretty girl, or maybe 2 lesbians make out...or even a guy fuck a girl in the ass... OH MY! LOL

Today, they need to watch a guy fuck his mom, or fuck his sister while his aunt watches, anything to push the limit to get off. (like a junkie, needing a stronger fix each time to get off)

My question and concern is this: What is more depraved than incest? Where is it all leading?? Will it... and could it... lead back to people fucking people in REAL LIFE? ahhh!!!!! say it ain't so!!!! Now that is really extreme.

No, I figure, after the whole incest fad has peaked, Beastiality will be the new "thing." That is lower and much more depraved than incest.

Just think of it... watching your favorite HOT 19 year old porn star sucking off dogs and horses... you think that is crazy?? Well, I've already seen major porn stars role playing fucking their moms, dads and brothers, so why not dogs and horses???

I figure about 2 to 4 more years and you'll see cosplay animal fucking turn into real animal fucking. Maybe using fake dicks at first.... then the real deal will follow....

THEN... you'll see porn titles like: "I fucked my neighbor's dog" and "Dad bought me a new horse" all with stunning porn models.

Proof: Remember in the 70's and 80's when they had "taboo" videos... with cheap ass, ugly women. Today... stunning hot sexy beautiful models have no problem fucking their dads, moms, cousins, brothers.... you name it. And now, when you see animal sex, it's done by the stankiest ugly women ever... but, you will see that soon change, just like the incest market did.

That's where I see it going. The sickest nastiness shit you can think is soon on it's way.

Family sex? LOL that's so old school. Wait until Alexis Texas goes down on a collie. They'll call it "Alexis & Lassie Together Again"

So enjoy the incest for now.... the real sick ass shit is just around the corner.

It's just gets sicker and sicker and sicker... like in the Roman days, just before the fall of the Empire. But instead of the Roman Empire, it's the entire fucking planet.

I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right. I cant imagine it being a turn on except for the depraved few. It's already happening. Do a pic search on Bing and they have links to other categories "Teens fucking a horse". Wonder how much $ the models will demand? Will the animal have an agent negotiate a good price?

[ufotestpilot]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The Dukes of Hazard 1979

A brother, sister & their cousin. A nuanced non-stop 3 way incest fuckfest every Friday night for years.

The Brady Bunch?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by ufotestpilot

The Brady Bunch?

[Konda]

Originally Posted by Linkster

It is legal in the US - the only law that currently exists at the federal level is you can't produce it with underage models (human of course)

The Feds defer to the states for statutes on this - and quite a few do not have laws against it - including Texas as I mentioned earlier... the only place you might get into trouble is with interstate commerce to a state that does have laws against it

I think there is something about obscenity laws where it falls under, not very familiar with the US laws but pretty sure it's not allowed to 'distribute' bestiality in most US states. Either way, Visa and MC don't process for it anymore, so it's commercially not interesting anymore. When it was still allowed and companies like CCBill still processed for it the market was really huge.
After Visa and MC banned it most of the production stopped as well, and at the same time it became illegal in the Netherlands where most of the producers and operators were.

Back in the days it was all over the biggest sites back then like The Hun, so probably these days it would be all over the Tubes if it was allowed.

[Jel]

"For a while, it was considered completely off-limits, the same way rape content was off-limits."

When was this then? It's always been around, at least it has been for the last 30 years or so that I've been watching/selling porn. In fact the first porno I saw in 1984/5 on vhs was Pretty Peaches, where good old Desiree (those tits) found her dad when she looked up to see who she'd just given a blowjob to at the end of film orgy.

The 70's Swedish Erotica loop compilations that did huge rounds on the UK VHS market in the 80's were full of 'incest', and while it waned, it's never, as far as I can remember, ever been off limits in the way that rape was/is. I can only assume that maybe you are a bit younger, possibly in your 20's, who just didn't see it before this cycle?