Trump considering pardoning Julian Assange - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 09-01-2017, 09:30 AM

Good idea to pardon him or bad?

Putin is offering "proof Russia didn't hack the U.S. elections" in return for an Assange pardon.

Remember Putin before said you can never prove a hack. So by his logic, you can improve a hack either. Your thoughts? No fake nic responses please, only real people. No offense

http://thehill.com/policy/technology...pardon-assange

"A GOP lawmaker's suggestion that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could be pardoned by President Trump is being eyed warily by people in the intelligence community."

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), who has come under scrutiny for his own ties to Russia, is behind the Assange pardon push.

The deal Rohrabacher is trying to cut: pardon Assange in exchange for information he claims proves Russia did not collude with the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential race.

The California Republican became the first U.S. lawmaker to meet with Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London early last month, where Assange has been holed up for years in an attempt to avoid arrest. Rohrabacher claims Assange offered him "firsthand" evidence during the meeting that would prove there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the race.

Earlier this week, Rohrabacher claimed a meeting is in the works between himself and the president to discuss Assange's information and a potential pardon.

Trump showed he is willing to flex his pardoning power last week when he announced he would pardon Joe Arpaio, the controversial former sheriff of Maricopa County, Ariz.

The decision has stirred speculation in Washington over how the president will use the authority in the future, and with Assange, some suggest a pardon could be self-serving for Trump, who has cast doubt on the NSA, CIA, FBI and Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

"He'd show that he'd do anything to skate out of the not just allegation, but clear fact of Russia's involvement [in the election]. That would be appalling," said Glenn Carle, a 23-year veteran of the CIA's clandestine services who finished up his career as deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats on the National Intelligence Council.

However, unlike Arpaio, Assange has not been charged or convicted of any wrongdoing by the United States. Officials have suggested for months that Assange could be charged at any time, but it still hasn't happened.

"It would be extremely unusual to pardon someone who hasn't been charged," said Margaret Love, who served as the Department of Justice pardon attorney between 1990 and 1997.

Love noted that some of the only cases where people who had not been charged with a crime were pardoned included President Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon after Watergate, President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers, and President Ronald Reagan's pardon of undocumented immigrants.

Former members of the intelligence community told The Hill that such a pardon of Assange would also come with serious consequences.

"By serving the system, you undermine your values. By speaking out, you're betraying your oath. I spent a career getting people in that situation to commit treason," said Carle.

A pardon would also likely be interpreted as a slap in the face to the intelligence community as it continues to lick wounds from a culture of leaking.

"Leaks are harmful," said Deitz. "They can end up with people getting killed or losing access to other sources."

Michael Borohovski, a former intelligence contractor currently at a cybersecurity firm he founded, Tinfoil Security, similarly said that such a pardon would reinforce the idea that it is okay to leak.

"Assange allegedly was involved with a few of the largest intelligence leaks of all time. Pardoning him would make it seem OK," Borohovski said.

onwebcam · 09-01-2017, 09:36 AM

Anyone paying attention or not in denial already knows it wasn't Russia.

BaldBastard · 09-01-2017, 10:28 AM

Bad news, Julian Assange is Australian, and he's likely to do more jail time here for his leaks against the Australian government than he would do in the USA

trump can pardon, but don't think it saves Assange's ass in anyway... many countries want him.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-01-2017, 10:37 AM

snowden is a fucking hero...nothing to do with assange...but still

Matt 26z · 09-01-2017, 11:32 AM

Just some guy with a website with no role in the actual leaking or hacking.

He hasn't been charged with anything and likely never will be due to the slippery slope that would create. If you charge Assange, then Glenn Greenwald and the mainstream media would presumably be fair game also.

Rochard · 09-01-2017, 11:44 AM

Julian Assange cannot be pardoned by the US - he hasn't been charged with any crimes in the US. He isn't hiding out in an embassy because he is afraid of the US; He has been charged in Sweeden for sexual assault - or maybe just wanted for questioning.

Frankly... If Trump was to pardon Julian Assange, other countries would have a huge issue with it.... The amount of damage Julian Assange and Wikileaks had done to the intelligence community and our military is staggering. I am surprised we haven't taken him out yet.

crockett · 09-01-2017, 11:46 AM

Pardon Snowdon but fuck Assange let that fucker rot in the embassy. Snowdon was did what was morally right and was attempting to protect our rights. Assanage is just a Russian tool...

CaptainHowdy · 09-01-2017, 11:52 AM

Steve Rupe · 09-01-2017, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Pardon Snowdon but fuck Assange let that fucker rot in the embassy. Snowdon was did what was morally right and was attempting to protect our rights. Assanage is just a Russian tool...

What "moral right"? Snowden betrayed his oath and is guilty of a crime and should pay the piper. What "moral right"?

pimpmaster9000 · 09-01-2017, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

What "moral right"? Snowden betrayed his oath and is guilty of a crime and should pay the piper. What "moral right"?

Snowden is 100x the hero any paid high school drop out invader will ever be...

thommy · 09-01-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

What "moral right"? Snowden betrayed his oath and is guilty of a crime and should pay the piper. What "moral right"?

snowden swoar an oad on the US constitution. the same constitution that gives us officials the right to keep things secret but forbids them to tell lies to the citizens.
so the ones who broke this oad were exactly these officials what want him now dead or alive.

crockett · 09-01-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

What "moral right"? Snowden betrayed his oath and is guilty of a crime and should pay the piper. What "moral right"?

Snowden was a contractor not a CIA agent. He took no oath, he broke company policies and US law. Laws and company policies can be broken when breaking it as a whistle blower showing violations of our rights..

crockett · 09-01-2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

snowden swoar an oad on the US constitution. the same constitution that gives us officials the right to keep things secret but forbids them to tell lies to the citizens.
so the ones who broke this oad were exactly these officials what want him now dead or alive.

Snowden was a hired contractor not a govt worker. Besides that oaths, laws and company policies can be broken if doing so as a whistle blower..

thommy · 09-01-2017, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Snowden was a hired contractor not a govt worker. Besides that oaths, laws and company policies can be broken if doing so as a whistle blower..

possible - but what i wanted to say is that snowden had the moral AND the legal right to do what he did.
and he is protected from the whistleblower protection act (1989) and from the whistleblower protection enhancement act (2012).
i saw an interview with this guy not long ago - and for me he is indeed something like a martyr, because he knew what will happen to him and he decided against a good and safe live and for the truth.

GFED · 09-01-2017, 02:01 PM

Information wants to be free.
Snowden and Assange are heroes to the people.

TheDynasty · 09-01-2017, 02:04 PM

Trumps a Moron!

Smack dat · 09-01-2017, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

What "moral right"? Snowden betrayed his oath and is guilty of a crime and should pay the piper. What "moral right"?

Wow.....

pimpmaster9000 · 09-01-2017, 04:04 PM

Snowden did more for the USA than people realize, he is a true hero and freedom fighter...it is amusing that all Americans agree that the government is corrupt as fuck but some of them hate on people who sacrifice themselves to make things better...if trump was anti establishment he would pardon him to encourage others to fight the good fight...but no...he is not...

TrafficTitan · 09-01-2017, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Julian Assange cannot be pardoned by the US - he hasn't been charged with any crimes in the US. He isn't hiding out in an embassy because he is afraid of the US; He has been charged in Sweeden for sexual assault - or maybe just wanted for questioning.

Frankly... If Trump was to pardon Julian Assange, other countries would have a huge issue with it.... The amount of damage Julian Assange and Wikileaks had done to the intelligence community and our military is staggering. I am surprised we haven't taken him out yet.

Sweden dropped the charges against him. Assange hasn't come out because he fears the US will pick him up and the US has not denied it. Other countries could still obviously charge him even if the US pardons him.

Steve Rupe · 09-01-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Snowden was a contractor not a CIA agent. He took no oath, he broke company policies and US law. Laws and company policies can be broken when breaking it as a whistle blower showing violations of our rights..

He not only thinks that he is guilty of violating law/laws but he knows it as he fled the country and will not surrender himself. So much for you thinking about Snowden.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-01-2017, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

He not only thinks that he is guilty of violating law/laws but he knows it as he fled the country and will not surrender himself. So much for you thinking about Snowden.

This is because he knows not to trust you to punish yourselves LOL

Steve Rupe · 09-01-2017, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

snowden swoar an oad on the US constitution. the same constitution that gives us officials the right to keep things secret but forbids them to tell lies to the citizens.
so the ones who broke this oad were exactly these officials what want him now dead or alive.

There are nine people on this earth, and only nine, that ultimately decide what is or is not a violation of the U.S. constitution. The nine are the nine people that are justices of the U.S. Federal Supreme Court. You are not one of those nine so you thoughts on the matter have zero import as does the thinking of every other person on this earth.

Steve Rupe · 09-01-2017, 07:03 PM

Looks like my pot shut every one up about the constitution.

Bladewire · 09-01-2017, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Looks like my pot shut every one up about the constitution.

Oh hey there the 435 people in congress just make a new law to bypass any laws judged unconstitutional by the justices. Happens all the time with race & Gay related issues, and abortion rights. Thought you'd know that.

Paul Markham · 09-01-2017, 11:21 PM

Fake News.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-02-2017, 12:29 AM

The us army and gov are the real traitors...pretending to "protect" the USA whilst lining Thier own pockets...

Bladewire · 09-02-2017, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Fake News.

You're eyes are getting tired from reading or you don't want to read the truth. Lazy

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	Trump considering pardoning Julian Assange Good idea to pardon him or bad? Putin is offering "proof Russia didn't hack the U.S. elections" in return for an Assange pardon. Remember Putin before said you can never prove a hack. So by his logic, you can improve a hack either. Your thoughts? No fake nic responses please, only real people. No offense http://thehill.com/policy/technology...pardon-assange "A GOP lawmaker's suggestion that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could be pardoned by President Trump is being eyed warily by people in the intelligence community." Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), who has come under scrutiny for his own ties to Russia, is behind the Assange pardon push. The deal Rohrabacher is trying to cut: pardon Assange in exchange for information he claims proves Russia did not collude with the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential race. The California Republican became the first U.S. lawmaker to meet with Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London early last month, where Assange has been holed up for years in an attempt to avoid arrest. Rohrabacher claims Assange offered him "firsthand" evidence during the meeting that would prove there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the race. Earlier this week, Rohrabacher claimed a meeting is in the works between himself and the president to discuss Assange's information and a potential pardon. Trump showed he is willing to flex his pardoning power last week when he announced he would pardon Joe Arpaio, the controversial former sheriff of Maricopa County, Ariz. The decision has stirred speculation in Washington over how the president will use the authority in the future, and with Assange, some suggest a pardon could be self-serving for Trump, who has cast doubt on the NSA, CIA, FBI and Office of the Director of National Intelligence. "He'd show that he'd do anything to skate out of the not just allegation, but clear fact of Russia's involvement [in the election]. That would be appalling," said Glenn Carle, a 23-year veteran of the CIA's clandestine services who finished up his career as deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats on the National Intelligence Council. However, unlike Arpaio, Assange has not been charged or convicted of any wrongdoing by the United States. Officials have suggested for months that Assange could be charged at any time, but it still hasn't happened. "It would be extremely unusual to pardon someone who hasn't been charged," said Margaret Love, who served as the Department of Justice pardon attorney between 1990 and 1997. Love noted that some of the only cases where people who had not been charged with a crime were pardoned included President Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon after Watergate, President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers, and President Ronald Reagan's pardon of undocumented immigrants. Former members of the intelligence community told The Hill that such a pardon of Assange would also come with serious consequences. "By serving the system, you undermine your values. By speaking out, you're betraying your oath. I spent a career getting people in that situation to commit treason," said Carle. A pardon would also likely be interpreted as a slap in the face to the intelligence community as it continues to lick wounds from a culture of leaking. "Leaks are harmful," said Deitz. "They can end up with people getting killed or losing access to other sources." Michael Borohovski, a former intelligence contractor currently at a cybersecurity firm he founded, Tinfoil Security, similarly said that such a pardon would reinforce the idea that it is okay to leak. "Assange allegedly was involved with a few of the largest intelligence leaks of all time. Pardoning him would make it seem OK," Borohovski said.

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