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10-03-2017, 12:54 PM | #1 |
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How is USA similar to Russia?
Ok assholes from both countries. Everybody wants to talk shit about how their country is better than someone elses. How about something a little different? How are we similar?
I'm sure this will get out of hand, because most of you guys are a bunch of fucking children but... How is Russia and USA similar? Everybody has an opinion on how much better their country is than the other guy, but lets see if anyone can play nice, who knows, maybe make a new friend. LOL Ill start. Apparently we both hate each other more and more |
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We both have dumb renecks.. for the record, I don't hate Russians. I just find they act just like American Republicans. It's like they are the same group of people and for this they must be trolled..
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They were both founded by white people.
The 'divide' is largely a creation of the media and international elements. The goal is to prevent white people from creating a united front. |
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Yes, that must be it! Damn the evil black, asian, jewish, Indian media!
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I worked for Dating Factory for over five years. At the time, they were located in Ukraine, and most of their tech staff was Ukrainian / Russian. This was odd to me at first. Eventually I got to know them and frankly, Russians are no different than Americans. Americans might have a higher standard of living, and there are slight little differences (What kinds of cars they drive), but at the end of the day the only difference was where we were born. We all had the same identical hopes and dreams.
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Not sure why you'd defend them. You won't find "cosmopolitan elites" in a van by the river, but you may find some white Russians |
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^ the one jew who is living in a van by the river
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Two huge egos running the country. Putin is the smarter of the two though.
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Bullshit. Personally I, my friends and my family members have never hated the US people (it fact, we are very similar). So that's just two colored lines on white background to me.
P.S. Russia has been at war with almost any country, like Turkey, Great Britain, France, Germany and even Mongolia, but not with the USA. Even more, if someone doesn't know, Russian Empire has played a significant role in the War for the US Independence: Russia and the American War for Independence - Journal of the American Revolution
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In Europe and America, there's a growing feeling of hysteria...
P.S. Now Russia is not even a Soviet country. It's a capitalist one, so I don't understand what we have to fight about.
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Both countries need a foreign enemy for their governments to exist as they are.
It is a fruitless game of proxy wars I have witnessed all my life. |
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Hmm, that's a truth. Actually the yin-yang symbol is really correct there too.
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It is ruled by one party though. Just like in good old soviet times. And while in said old times KGB was ruled by Party, now KGB IS the Party and rules it :-)
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Comrade, Cheka will exist as long as Russia will exist. Without Cheka, there is no Russia !
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usually the "normal" people prefer to live in other type of countries, if they have a choice. of course you may always say "blabla" its the same everywhere, well advice for you then - go live there :-) |
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The military industrial complex and the media are making money selling fear to both countries...increasing war budgets on both sides...
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freedom of expression?? look at Germany for example, where you can go to jail, even if you are journalists!! for anti imigrant, anti islamic views or look at Spain, what happened latelly?, freedom of expression?? haha bullshit! and are you believe in independent courts??? where? in Europe, Germany, Russia?? there is no such thing like independent courts no matter where, in Russia, Germany, Poland the most independent courts are in USA, i agree, but only the most independent, not just independent Europe is in big shit hole, there is no freedom of expression anymore Russia is not worse |
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Spain case is kind of unique...This country is ruled by exfranquistas LOL and it has not that much in common actually with freedom and democracy (on top of that, its Kingdom, not republic)...on so many ways this country is a joke, check out for example #Ley Mordaza what they ruled 2 years ago... Also, they have basically constitutional crisis now, that idiots in government seem to overlook and miss...What kind of idiot you have to be send riot police to voting people thinking that will resolve the problem ? LOL it will do the opposite, the opposition will get stronger and stronger...So this show well what kind of idiots rule Spain and what is their mental status :-) It seems that various governments decided to slowly boil the frogg of personal freedoms etc. It's your choice if you want to explain and justyficate them by saying that "in Russia or Belarus is the same", or if you want to oppose them and dont agree with regular taking away of personal freedoms etc.. I don't know about you, but my choice is the second option.. ps. as for independent judges, they are independent not only in US....in many countries they are still independent I guess...UK, Belgium and few more come to my mind. its also long discussion. what matters most is what I wrote paragraph above :P ps2. Russia IS WORSE than mentioned by you countries. I think that is obvious..Know about any other country where opposition leader would be regulary jailed and sanctioned ? Maybe in Africa ??? LOL wtf you talking about ? Q: Is it true that there is freedom of speech in the Soviet Union the same as there is the USA? A: In principle, yes. In the USA, you can stand in front of the Washington Monument in Washington, DC, and yell, "Down with Reagan!", and you will not be punished. In the Soviet Union, you can stand in the Red Square in Moscow and yell, "Down with Reagan!", and you will not be punished. ps3. i said before - if you can't spot difference, try living in Russia if thats so OK for you. By living I mean LIVING, be politically engaged, do some NGO stuff, support Navalny or whatever...you will notice the difference quickly..or even be a Russian state security officer and get banned of travelling abroad...LOL WTF you talk about ? Know about any other countries where state security officers would be banned from foreign travel ? [not super secret guys, but milions of funcionarios]..so WTF dude..wtf you talking about....Lenin called people like you "useful idiots"..you seem to be so critical of current system in countries where you live that you seem like all these Spanish guys walking with Che Guevara tshirts and going back from Cuba saying how wonderful this country is....LOL....I bet that you also blame for what happens in venezuela just Americans and their policies, not idiot government of Venezuela ps4. ALSO A TIP - lay off reading Russia Today. It was created especially to produce useful idiots in masses, in thousands. That was their objective of subversion, disinformation etc. |
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Have they been somehow punished for that? No. They've been punished for their performance in church where they have really scared babushkas there. Actually you can find the same punishment (up to 5 years of prison time) in the German Law. America isn't better abut it... And how about this: The guy on the video above is a child in comparison to that Pussy Riot did in the church. In the US you just afraid to do this or that because you'll be punished for the things that could be harmless and normal in your country. Don't even mention that any cop there can shoot you like a dog just because... he doesn't know.
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sorry, but the only video that comes to my mind about Pussy Riot is when they got spanked (and almost cried) by Russian Cossacks in Sochi....[and yeah, that from the church too].
That shows good why so called "liberals" get year by year around 10 % of social and political support LOL in Russia. The joke that I posted from Radio Yerevan seem to be still actual lol, regardless if Soviet Russia doesnt exist since 26 years.... its long discussion...What I do know is that I may envy Russia low tax rate, and thats all. well I bet that NGOs work much more freely in US than in Russia, one thing that comes to my mind. its also long discussion. I prefer America than Russia, sorry. much more diverse, with better climate,nature, colourful people,connected to latin america and europe and western asia..also different basics and values on which they founded their country...What basics did Russia have ? All the time either Tzars, commies or KGB from one dictatorship to another |
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I haven't asked what you prefer, especially assuming that you have never been to the both countries (I've been and worked here and there). I have asked you to name at least a couple of freedoms that actually available to the US citizens and not available to the Russian ones. Don't try to run away. Just stay here and name them.
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But actually there was also a joke about that. In commie times. any discussion on the street among average people about how great America is and USSR bad...was frequently closed and finished by various USSr politruks and state media that were saying "..but in America they beat black people".... |
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also legal marihuana recently in some states lol and yeah, please dont try to name black as white, saying that "In Russia we also have antidrug laws but nobody cares about them"... also independent judges on all levels, that are not slaves to current Jefe, but stay defending law and consitution... im sorry if you dont see any differences...I suggest maybe more books, not only your own (narrow) life experience of welathy guy |
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Blocking/unlocking of pornsites is a constant game here and I believe it's all about money (pornhub was blocked, it gave a bribe to Roskomnadzor and was unblocked again...) Everybody knows how to avoid it, but I will count it. You finally named something that is formally allowed in the States and could be forbidden in Russia and the UK for example (those also block porn sites). But I would like to comment on that. If an American citizen accidentally visit a CP site which is obviously is unblocked. What will happen if the ISP reports him to police? He will go to jail, right? What will happen if a Russian citizen will do the same (and it doesn't matter if the site is blocked or not)? Right, nothing will happen, because there is no law to punish someone for visiting blocked or illegal sites. Yes, including casinos, drug dealing and CP ones. Foe example in Australia any porn video with a model that has a small breast is considered as a CP and gets punished accordingly... Such a nice thing!!! They have finally legalized narcotics. What will be next? Meth? I'm happy for fellow Americans, but legalization of drugs that kill (yes, marihuana kills too) is not a freedom. On the other hand, legalization of prostitution is a freedom, because every human have a right on how to use his/her own body. In the USA prostitution is a criminal offense (illegal), in Russia it is not illegal. So please name some freedoms in the USA that are not available to Russians, yeah something other than marijuana, meth, heroine etc. Something that really affects a normal human (not a junkie or an alcoholic*) in his daily life. Just something. Please * As about alcoholics. Yes I know that in the USA you can drive drunk and you can't be stopped by a cop to test for DUI w/o a reason. In Russia even a bottle of beer is a BIG NO, if you don't want to lose your driving license and spent 15 days in prison. So please, don't post about this "freedom". It's the same case as a freedom to smoke marijuana and meth. On the other hand. In the USA you can't have an open bottle of alcohol even if you are a passenger (you don't drive). In Russia it's absolutely ok. If I'm not on a driver's place I can drink anything. Furthermore, drinking in public places is forbidden here just like in the USA, but if I'm in the car, I can drink anything and anyhow and joke on the guys in a police car near me (actually I did it right yesterday when my wife was driving her car ). I can even be naked there, piss into a bottle or have sex with someone, because a car is like a small house - it's mine and I can do anything inside of it. In the USA this won't fly
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Also I think that my argument about nations' values that they are built on is something interesting here. Like i said, they built US many centuries ago as a place based on libertarian values mixed with puritan ones...a country where people were coming to live b these values and make money In Russia it was always: Tzars, commies, KGB(and their bonzos and tzars), in that order... We both know how are the relations state-individual in said countries. In one country you are treated as individual as A SUBJECT in relations you (individual)- state, in other countries you are treated like object, as..state knows better than you ! Unless of course you dont pay taxes in US or do some law offences, then you are not treated good agree about that 2. I dont consider pot to be more lethal than alcohol, rather the opposite actually. both are poisons thats for sure. its personal freedom how you want to kill and poison yourself..state has nothing to do with it. you are responsible for your life. we could continue here and continue, however the game is rigged here The more you will post here, the more you will post your signature, and the more potential sales of your soft you will get there. And the more I post here, the more time I lose that I could spend on productive work If I would be you, I would also post here a lot, even a shit like that "I know someone that says that his grandma came from Mars" and other controversial stuff..just to get more sig views we both know though what is true and what is not. I sometimes stop by here to poke Sarn here, as he seems to be agent of inluence on this forum , yet they forgot to teach him English...ah, so much fun...He also has that legendary Russian happiness, calm and distant smile inside his soul, that only the strongest Russians can achieve after 72 hours marathon of sex, sauna, food and vodka. yet, he has it and I may sense it from 1 km [he is also brainwashed in charming way by his state TV (or his personal politruks ? ) ] So I only hope that you will be as much talkative as you are now, when I will ask you about custom parser for your soft, and as helpful as you were so far |
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In the USA the business partners do it almost the same way. For example, they go into a golf club to make a deal there. I like this as well, but Russians don't print dollars and most of us can't afford an enjoyment of the real golf game with a partner. So usually Russians end up in a sex marathon with 5-7 eighteen year old girls (a night is usually very long... ;)) Yes, it's much cheapper than golf and course it's not so funny, but this is a Russian specific... P.S. You were unable to name any American freedom which is unavailable in Russia (except drugs and drunk driving), while I've named at least a couple of things that you can do in Russia but not in the States
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I have traveled on 3 continents -- I am always happy to return home. I hope you you are too ... The USA is less fucked up than most places (all the places) I have seen -- more than 10 foreign countries so far and 30 US states. Even state-to-state within the USA there are substantial differences. A US state is like a nation-state in the EU BTW (more or less).
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Ok, I'll try. In my dealings with Russians the entrepreneurs are motivated just like us. Trying to get ahead for themselves and their families. 98% of the time they speak English, but that is most of Europe and Asia now (the entrepreneurial population, not general). Russians get exasperated more easily than Americans and are less confident that they'll have time to do what they need. But they want to create unique things just like we do. Russians like cool stuff, and superlatives. Russians secretly envy successful Americans, but have no respect for stupid Americans. Stupid people in the US don't envy anyone, but smart Americans sometimes envy successful Russians. |
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Change that flag -- this could be the USA ...
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