okay I'm really confused now..

[Grapesoda]

this headline at the Huffington

"Trump?s Attempt To Link Gun Violence To Mental Illness Exemplifies Hypocrisy"

so it's not mental illness?

[beerptrol]

Stick with being spoon fed what you should think. Thinking for yourself is obviously to confusing

[bns666]

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Stick with being spoon fed what you should think. Thinking for yourself is obviously to confusing

This post should be the official definition of irony in the dictionary!

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This post should be the official definition of irony in the dictionary!

Most the posts from beerptrol fit into the same category

[beerptrol]

Says the two fucktards who start worthless threads to further their fucktard agendas

[Grapesoda]

the whole thing is weird... the huffingtom post is mostly shit from what I can see

[PaperstreetWinston]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the whole thing is weird... the huffingtom post is mostly shit from what I can see

agreed

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the whole thing is weird... the huffingtom post is mostly shit from what I can see

Which news outlet(s) do you trust?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Which news outlet(s) do you trust?

I trust the weather somewhat, any 'newscast' is heavily biased to pull clicks, nothing else.
here is proof: when Brittney Spears shaved her head, suddenly the war in the middle east was not an issue or important at all in any way.


best thing to watch is the business section and read financial stuff.

the reality Mark is this: it's about the fucking dirty money.

anything else you hear or read is just complete bullshit made mostly made up completely or interpreted in a way that draws clicks and they won't get sued. and you are NOT thinking about the money.... classic misdirection... I had read once that media presentations, the news, biased movies and TV, commercial... hummm.. oh yeah EVERYTHING that is presented to YOU, is set to an 8th-grade intellect. you and Richard have a great time with that okay?

"This is actually pretty easy to research. Google “readability” and “reading level in media.” Most material for popular consumption is about at a sixth-grade reading level. (When I first typed that, I left the “x” out of “sixth.” Have I uncovered a sinister plot to dumb down America?). Anything above eighth grade would be challenging for a lot of readers. There are lots of tools to measure reading level.

I ran the above through a readability tool and got a grade level of 8.5. But the tool also erroneously flagged “be challenging” as a use of the passive." google yourself, this is from Quara

or like the dumb fucks here: if we say it true, the facts don't really concern us. the media piles it on and on and on and on... "

you ever see this quote, some relatively unimportant German about 60 years ago.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

the stories I had read in the past all started with something like "suppose trump did....or if this is true" then 4 or 5 paragraphs of all the bad shit that was coming down the pipe IF... then drag out some piece of shit drunk actor that abuses his kids as a reputable source to confirm the party line...

really, Mark, that's your info source? you trust that stuff? seems a bit childish to me honestly at best and probably just foolish.

you lack critical thinking

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

this headline at the Huffington

"Drumpf?s Attempt To Link Gun Violence To Mental Illness Exemplifies Hypocrisy"

so it's not mental illness?

Anyone who is willing to pick up a firearm and shoot and kill strangers obviously has a mental illness. However, this ONLY happens in America. It's very simple - Americans make up 4% of the world population but own 42% of the world's firearms.

Our gun homicide rate is 33 per million. Compare this to Canada with 5 per million and the UK with .7 per million.

Take a look at mass shootings in Canada by year...
2007 - 0
2008 - 0
2009 - 0
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 0
2014 - 1
2016 - 2
2017 - 1

It's not a mental illness issue - all countries have problems with mental illness. In the United States it's too easy for someone who has mental illness to get a firearm.

Take my friend John. I talk about him all the time. He has "water on the brain" and a dozen operations on his brain. He now operates at the level of a fifteen year boy. His life has been taken away from him - he will never live a normal life, girlfriend, wife, family, etc. He knows this and understands he is different but cannot understand why. He has been on disability for twenty or thirty years now and if you spend more than ten minutes with him in conversation you can quickly figure out he can only talk about three or four subjects. Yet he is armed with an assault rifle and a hand gun. Everyone knows he has mental problems, and everyone knows he is frustrated because he is "not normal" but... No one can do anything about it.

The President just said "Thank god gun laws didn't stop the bystander from taking out the gun man". What about having gun laws to stop the gun man in the first place? The logic is "gun law saved lives". No, gun laws allowed this to happen in the first place.

We just had two of the worst mass shootings that in recent memory, all of them have the same exact thing in common, and we are doing nothing to stop this. This will continue and we will have the same conversations over and over again.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Anyone who is willing to pick up a firearm and shoot and kill strangers obviously has a mental illness. However, this ONLY happens in America. It's very simple - Americans make up 4% of the world population but own 42% of the world's firearms.

Our gun homicide rate is 33 per million. Compare this to Canada with 5 per million and the UK with .7 per million.

Take a look at mass shootings in Canada by year...
2007 - 0
2008 - 0
2009 - 0
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 0
2014 - 1
2016 - 2
2017 - 1

It's not a mental illness issue - all countries have problems with mental illness. In the United States it's too easy for someone who has mental illness to get a firearm.

Take my friend John. I talk about him all the time. He has "water on the brain" and a dozen operations on his brain. He now operates at the level of a fifteen year boy. His life has been taken away from him - he will never live a normal life, girlfriend, wife, family, etc. He knows this and understands he is different but cannot understand why. He has been on disability for twenty or thirty years now and if you spend more than ten minutes with him in conversation you can quickly figure out he can only talk about three or four subjects. Yet he is armed with an assault rifle and a hand gun. Everyone knows he has mental problems, and everyone knows he is frustrated because he is "not normal" but... No one can do anything about it.

The President just said "Thank god gun laws didn't stop the bystander from taking out the gun man". What about having gun laws to stop the gun man in the first place? The logic is "gun law saved lives". No, gun laws allowed this to happen in the first place.

We just had two of the worst mass shootings that in recent memory, all of them have the same exact thing in common, and we are doing nothing to stop this. This will continue and we will have the same conversations over and over again.

wtf are you on about? the thrust of the post is HP is crap....try and stay relevant won't ya?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

This post should be the official definition of irony in the dictionary!

Almost as ironic as the username Polish Aristocrat

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Anyone who is willing to pick up a firearm and shoot and kill strangers obviously has a mental illness. However, this ONLY happens in America. It's very simple - Americans make up 4% of the world population but own 42% of the world's firearms.

Our gun homicide rate is 33 per million. Compare this to Canada with 5 per million and the UK with .7 per million.

.

you're are so going to fucking HATE this: pull black on black gun violence from the stats and you'll see an interesting thing. very current, pls stop saying stupid hillary clinton shit. okay?

Nearly 40 shot in Chicago over weekend as city nears 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

"With the weekend toll, at least 2,651 people have been shot in Chicago this year, according to the Tribune's data. There have been at least 485 homicides. "

I'm getting kinda disgusted with you actually, I mean I know this is a work board and you are really good at that but dayum wtf dude? hit a cold shower will ya??

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

you're are so going to fucking HATE this: pull black on black gun violence from the stats and you'll see an interesting thing. very current, pls stop saying stupid hillary clinton shit. okay?

Nearly 40 shot in Chicago over weekend as city nears 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

"With the weekend toll, at least 2,651 people have been shot in Chicago this year, according to the Tribune's data. There have been at least 485 homicides. "

I'm getting kinda disgusted with you actually, I mean I know this is a work board and you are really good at that but dayum wtf dude? hit a cold shower will ya??

God you guys love the Chicago talking point. They also bring up Chicago's tight gun laws. What they leave out its surrounded by places where getting a gun is very easy. Guns dont just fall from the sky. I have no problem with guns, its too easy to get a gun. This guy never ever should of had one or the asshole who killed all those little kids. But keep talking those NRA talking points.

https://www.thetrace.org/2017/01/chi...-city-america/ they arent even close to number one. The reason they use chicago because its were obama was from.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

wtf are you on about? the thrust of the post is HP is crap....try and stay relevant won't ya?

His response was more relevant that your actual stupid thread. The guy makes clear valid points in response to your op. He is the only one who actually posted any relevant facts. What did you respond with? Black on black crime? So, may I ask? Wtf are you on about? The thrust of the post is retarded...try and stay relevant won't ya?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by tony286

God you guys love the Chicago talking point. They also bring up Chicago's tight gun laws. What they leave out its surrounded by places where getting a gun is very easy. Guns dont just fall from the sky. I have no problem with guns, its too easy to get a gun. This guy never ever should of had one or the asshole who killed all those little kids. But keep talking those NRA talking points.

https://www.thetrace.org/2017/01/chi...-city-america/ they arent even close to number one. The reason they use chicago because its were obama was from.

there are many urban centres with the issue of chigaco. you can blab blab blab until the cows come home, does NOT change the gun murder rate

(btw your best plan is to say Chicago is only a slightly fucked up piece of a shit hole, and other places are worse! LOL obama!!! wtf is wrong with you?

[Grapesoda]

you guys drive me crazy lol! have a good day guys... *much respect*

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

you're are so going to fucking HATE this: pull black on black gun violence from the stats and you'll see an interesting thing. very current, pls stop saying stupid hillary clinton shit. okay?

Nearly 40 shot in Chicago over weekend as city nears 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

"With the weekend toll, at least 2,651 people have been shot in Chicago this year, according to the Tribune's data. There have been at least 485 homicides. "

I'm getting kinda disgusted with you actually, I mean I know this is a work board and you are really good at that but dayum wtf dude? hit a cold shower will ya??

When was the last time a black man was involved in a mass shooting?

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I trust the weather somewhat, any 'newscast' is heavily biased to pull clicks, nothing else.
here is proof: when Brittney Spears shaved her head, suddenly the war in the middle east was not an issue or important at all in any way.


best thing to watch is the business section and read financial stuff.

the reality Mark is this: it's about the fucking dirty money.

anything else you hear or read is just complete bullshit made mostly made up completely or interpreted in a way that draws clicks and they won't get sued. and you are NOT thinking about the money.... classic misdirection... I had read once that media presentations, the news, biased movies and TV, commercial... hummm.. oh yeah EVERYTHING that is presented to YOU, is set to an 8th-grade intellect. you and Richard have a great time with that okay?

"This is actually pretty easy to research. Google ?readability? and ?reading level in media.? Most material for popular consumption is about at a sixth-grade reading level. (When I first typed that, I left the ?x? out of ?sixth.? Have I uncovered a sinister plot to dumb down America?). Anything above eighth grade would be challenging for a lot of readers. There are lots of tools to measure reading level.

I ran the above through a readability tool and got a grade level of 8.5. But the tool also erroneously flagged ?be challenging? as a use of the passive." google yourself, this is from Quara

or like the dumb fucks here: if we say it true, the facts don't really concern us. the media piles it on and on and on and on... "

you ever see this quote, some relatively unimportant German about 60 years ago.

?If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.?

the stories I had read in the past all started with something like "suppose trump did....or if this is true" then 4 or 5 paragraphs of all the bad shit that was coming down the pipe IF... then drag out some piece of shit drunk actor that abuses his kids as a reputable source to confirm the party line...

really, Mark, that's your info source? you trust that stuff? seems a bit childish to me honestly at best and probably just foolish.

you lack critical thinking

Childish is a grown man who can't read a news article without getting emotionally ruined because it doesn't suit what he thinks is important or not. I don't like celebrity news either but i have this unique ability to avoid reading about it, like ever. You should try it out sometime. Just because it's on the front page doesn't mean you have to read it. I often skip political nonsense in general because of that. Most of it is not news and I move on and find what I think is important. It's because I do this i can go to ANY major, reputable, news site and get what i need from it--even fox! Whether i am with their political slants or not I can make that determination on my own and develop my own ideas from what i have read.

I take it you can't do this? You have to agree with the columnist or its useless to you?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When was the last time a black man was involved in a mass shooting?

probably foot hood, then maybe the subway killer in NY. honestly me not getting killed is more of a preoccupation of mine than who black people decide to kill on any given day, you pickin up what I'm laying out homey?

however, it seems to me black people like to shoot other black people in really small groups, sometimes from a car or 1 at a time... what's your fucking point?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Childish is a grown man who can't read a news article without getting emotionally ruined because it doesn't suit what he thinks is important or not. I don't like celebrity news either but i have this unique ability to avoid reading about it, like ever. You should try it out sometime. Just because it's on the front page doesn't mean you have to read it. I often skip political nonsense in general because of that. Most of it is not news and I move on and find what I think is important. It's because I do this i can go to ANY major, reputable, news site and get what i need from it--even fox! Whether i am with their political slants or not I can make that determination on my own and develop my own ideas from what i have read.

I take it you can't do this? You have to agree with the columnist or its useless to you?

whoa!!! seems to me, you are giving ME all kinds of thoughts and feeling and motivations.

I would have placed more value on your input had you not decided to be a fucking mind reader!!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When was the last time a black man was involved in a mass shooting?

here:

The FBI released its official crime tally for 2016 on Monday, and the data flies in the face of the rhetoric that professional athletes rehearsed in revived Black Lives Matter protests over the weekend.

Nearly 900 additional blacks were killed in 2016 compared with 2015, bringing the black homicide victim total to 7,881. Those 7,881 ?black bodies,? in the parlance of Ta-Nehisi Coates, are 1,305 more than the number of white victims (which in this case includes most Hispanics) for the same period, though blacks are only 13 percent of the nation?s population.
The increase in black homicides last year comes on top of a previous 900-victim increase between 2014 and 2015.

when 'WHITE' gun nuts are mass shooting 8,000 people a FUCKING year, hit me up then okay?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

probably foot hood, then maybe the subway killer in NY. honestly me not getting killed is more of a preoccupation of mine than who black people decide to kill on any given day, you pickin up what I'm laying out homey?

however, it seems to me black people like to shoot other black people in really small groups, sometimes from a car or 1 at a time... what's your fucking point?

The Fort Hood shooter was black? Really?

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

honestly me not getting killed is more of a preoccupation of mine than who black people decide to kill on any given day, you pickin up what I'm laying out homey?

however, it seems to me black people like to shoot other black people in really small groups, sometimes from a car or 1 at a time... what's your fucking point?

You started a post about Trump's comments on the second large scale mass shooting in the past two months, and suddenly you are bitching about black on black shootings?

We just had a shooting where twenty-five people were killed and everyone involved was white.

If "not getting killed" is a preoccupation of yours that's great. Just avoid churches, concerts, and schools.

[Paul Markham]

Of course a lot of mass shootings are the result of mental illness, why does it even need to be discussed?

Sane people don't kill loads of people they don't know or schoolmates.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Of course a lot of mass shootings are the result of mental illness, why does it even need to be discussed?

Sane people don't kill loads of people they don't know or schoolmates.

But then the question is how come this doesn't happen in other countries?

I used Canada as an example above. We had more deaths in one mass shooting than Canada had in ten years. Clearly all countries have problems with mental illness, yet only in the United States do people go out and slaughter dozens and dozens other people.

The problem is firearms. The United states makes up 4% of the world population but has 42% of the world's firearms. And when I say "42% of the world's firearms" keep in mind the most popular selling firearm is the AR15 Assault Rifle.

[TheRock55]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When was the last time a black man was involved in a mass shooting?

All the time...stop reading just the Huffington Post and pay attention

[TheRock55]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Anyone who is willing to pick up a firearm and shoot and kill strangers obviously has a mental illness. However, this ONLY happens in America. It's very simple - Americans make up 4% of the world population but own 42% of the world's firearms.

Our gun homicide rate is 33 per million. Compare this to Canada with 5 per million and the UK with .7 per million.

Take a look at mass shootings in Canada by year...
2007 - 0
2008 - 0
2009 - 0
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 0
2014 - 1
2016 - 2
2017 - 1

It's not a mental illness issue - all countries have problems with mental illness. In the United States it's too easy for someone who has mental illness to get a firearm.

Take my friend John. I talk about him all the time. He has "water on the brain" and a dozen operations on his brain. He now operates at the level of a fifteen year boy. His life has been taken away from him - he will never live a normal life, girlfriend, wife, family, etc. He knows this and understands he is different but cannot understand why. He has been on disability for twenty or thirty years now and if you spend more than ten minutes with him in conversation you can quickly figure out he can only talk about three or four subjects. Yet he is armed with an assault rifle and a hand gun. Everyone knows he has mental problems, and everyone knows he is frustrated because he is "not normal" but... No one can do anything about it.

The President just said "Thank god gun laws didn't stop the bystander from taking out the gun man". What about having gun laws to stop the gun man in the first place? The logic is "gun law saved lives". No, gun laws allowed this to happen in the first place.

We just had two of the worst mass shootings that in recent memory, all of them have the same exact thing in common, and we are doing nothing to stop this. This will continue and we will have the same conversations over and over again.

50% of gun violence are suicides and 30% are gang related...

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Fort Hood shooter was black? Really?





You started a post about Trump's comments on the second large scale mass shooting in the past two months, and suddenly you are bitching about black on black shootings?

We just had a shooting where twenty-five people were killed and everyone involved was white.

If "not getting killed" is a preoccupation of yours that's great. Just avoid churches, concerts, and schools.

Dr. Hasan's job was creating killers until he became one himself.

Hasan's Psychological Health Raised Concerns
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...ryId=120340654

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Take a look at mass shootings in Canada by year...
2007 - 0
2008 - 0
2009 - 0
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 0
2014 - 1
2016 - 2
2017 - 1

Canada does not pump tiny babies full of vaccines that cause autism. (Sandy Hook)

Canada, being a (mostly) single culture nation, has a greater level of respect for one another. (Columbine)

Canada hasn't been importing muzzies for a couple decades. So they don't have second generation haters. (Pulse Nightclub, San Bernardino)

Canada doesn't have black people. (Charleston church)

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

here:

The FBI released its official crime tally for 2016 on Monday, and the data flies in the face of the rhetoric that professional athletes rehearsed in revived Black Lives Matter protests over the weekend.

Nearly 900 additional blacks were killed in 2016 compared with 2015, bringing the black homicide victim total to 7,881. Those 7,881 ?black bodies,? in the parlance of Ta-Nehisi Coates, are 1,305 more than the number of white victims (which in this case includes most Hispanics) for the same period, though blacks are only 13 percent of the nation?s population.
The increase in black homicides last year comes on top of a previous 900-victim increase between 2014 and 2015.

when 'WHITE' gun nuts are mass shooting 8,000 people a FUCKING year, hit me up then okay?

Nazi white racists killed 900 additional blacks last year thanks for proving the point

[TheRock55]

Most gun deaths are suicide and black on black gang violence

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Fort Hood shooter was black? Really?





You started a post about Trump's comments on the second large scale mass shooting in the past two months, and suddenly you are bitching about black on black shootings?

We just had a shooting where twenty-five people were killed and everyone involved was white.

If "not getting killed" is a preoccupation of yours that's great. Just avoid churches, concerts, and schools.

I don't really follow the shooting of innocents as a spectator sport, you know? for you to qualify 25 people getting killed as white is fucked up dude. it's fucked up when anyone gets killed. I'm telling you that when white guy mass shooters are killing 8000 people a year, then you can equate black violence and random mass shooting as being of equally poor value. fair enough?

I'm sorry if you misunderstood my OP. the OP is in regards to the HUFFINGTON POST being a hypocritical piece of libby shit!!! lol!! I have no idea why you think the OP is about trump lol!!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

But then the question is how come this doesn't happen in other countries?

I used Canada as an example above. We had more deaths in one mass shooting than Canada had in ten years. Clearly all countries have problems with mental illness, yet only in the United States do people go out and slaughter dozens and dozens other people.

The problem is firearms. The United states makes up 4% of the world population but has 42% of the world's firearms. And when I say "42% of the world's firearms" keep in mind the most popular selling firearm is the AR15 Assault Rifle.

yup and that's why we have FAT people Richard, forks

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Of course a lot of mass shootings are the result of mental illness, why does it even need to be discussed?

Sane people don't kill loads of people they don't know or schoolmates.

hey this is America, mass shooting are the result of guns. so stop it.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by TheRock55

50% of gun violence are suicides and 30% are gang related...

yeah, I read stats putting suicide at the top of the gun violence list....

[TheRock55]

You liberals claim to be against fascism yet want the government o take our guns, which is what fascists do

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Dr. Hasan's job was creating killers until he became one himself.

Hasan's Psychological Health Raised Concerns
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...ryId=120340654

so his supper killer powers backfired?? whoa!!!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Canada does not pump tiny babies full of vaccines that cause autism. (Sandy Hook)

Canada, being a (mostly) single culture nation, has a greater level of respect for one another. (Columbine)

Canada hasn't been importing muzzies for a couple decades. So they don't have second generation haters. (Pulse Nightclub, San Bernardino)

Canada doesn't have black people. (Charleston church)

does Canada display the same level of misandry as the America media? this is a real question.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by TheRock55

You liberals claim to be against fascism yet want the government o take our guns, which is what fascists do

I thought fascism was the government running the industries etc.. ?

I think all the gun taking shit is just a bit of freelancing by the jackbooters