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crockett · 01-31-2018, 05:00 PM

#1 ) I've seen many of you accuse the FBI of plotting aginst Trump and trying to villify them as has right wing media. Usually the rational is claims some FBI agent liked Hillary or claims that things like the dossier is fake because someone in the DNC paid for it and so on..

Let's just assume that's a reasonable reason to lay doubt on the Russia investigation.. Let's say I give you that as reasonable doubt..

Now my question is.. Why do you not hold Devin Nunes and Jeff Sessions to that same standard? Why is it ok to have Trump using the DOJ to interfere with the FBI investigation and why don't you call for Nunes to be removed as part of the investigation when he was part of Trump's team..

Seems you guys are supporting a double standard here so explain why the same rules should not apply to your guys that you expect applied to everyone else?

#2) While Obama was president, while Clintion was president, we sat through countless investigations which were obviously politically motivated in my opinion, but once again, let's give you guys the benifit of doubt and assume you really wanted to see if wrong doing was done..

Why now the sudden change of heart? Why are you guys so scared of the FBI investigation into Russia interfering in our election? Why not just let it run its course like Clintion did with the Kenneth Star investigations and Obama did with the countless Benghazi investigations? Again why not hold yourselves to the same rules you thought others needed to be held to?

nico-t · 01-31-2018, 05:14 PM

^^^ gfy's biggest Trump nut

crockett · 01-31-2018, 05:55 PM

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^^^ gfy's biggest Trump nut

nico-t is mad because his govt funded housing project is in the middle of a Muslim no go zone. He has to be indoors by 6pm each day.

Helix · 01-31-2018, 06:04 PM

All will be revealed soon.

crockett · 01-31-2018, 06:07 PM

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All will be revealed soon.

So no excuse as for the double standard other then hypocrisy?

Clearly you don't mean the Nunes memo, because it's not worth the paper it's printed on being Nunes was on Trump transition team and has clearly shown he is incapable of being objective.

Might as well be written by Trump's lawyer's which it probably was...

Rochard · 01-31-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

#1 ) I've seen many of you accuse the FBI of plotting aginst Trump and trying to villify them as has right wing media. Usually the rational is claims some FBI agent liked Hillary or claims that things like the dossier is fake because someone in the DNC paid for it and so on..

Republicans can say whatever they want about the dossier. It was originally started by Republicans. There is nothing wrong, illegal, or even immoral about it. It's opposition research. Everyone in the political arena does this.

In this case, the opposition research turned up some alarming information which was then reported to the FBI. Again, nothing wrong about this at all.

When combined with other information - including information from other governments - it was decided to open up an investigation. It would have been criminal not to.

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Originally Posted by crockett

Why do you not hold Devin Nunes and Jeff Sessions to that same standard? Why is it ok to have Trump using the DOJ to interfere with the FBI investigation and why don't you call for Nunes to be removed as part of the investigation when he was part of Trump's team..

Seems you guys are supporting a double standard here so explain why the same rules should not apply to your guys that you expect applied to everyone else?

When the Republicans are attacking Democrats for political reasons, it's perfectly acceptable. Now that the shoe is on the other foot it's not acceptable.

You want a double standard? I'll give you one right here on GFY. Vendzilla. When Obama was in office and unemployment was dropping every month, Vendzilla wanted to have conversations about the "true" unemployment rate. Now that Trump is in office he is praising the black unemployment rate. Why isn't Vendzilla discussing the "true" unemployment rate - or better yet, the labor participation rate?

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by crockett

#2) While Obama was president, while Clintion was president, we sat through countless investigations which were obviously politically motivated in my opinion, but once again, let's give you guys the benifit of doubt and assume you really wanted to see if wrong doing was done..

Why now the sudden change of heart? Why are you guys so scared of the FBI investigation into Russia interfering in our election? Why not just let it run its course like Clintion did with the Kenneth Star investigations and Obama did with the countless Benghazi investigations? Again why not hold yourselves to the same rules you thought others needed to be held to?

The investigations into Hillary Clinton were obviously politically motivated.

With Benghazi there was nothing done wrong by anyone. In fact, there was never even a discussion about a certain crime or violation of the constitution. Remember that woman who lost their son screaming at Hillary Clinton on camera? NOTHING we could have done would have changed the outcome. NOTHING. We had a Marine quick reaction force in Italy, but by the time they could have had boots on the ground it would have been all over - the only end result would have been more Americans in harm's way not to mention we would have invaded another country.

With the email sever there was no crime committed at all. There is no law that says the Secretary of State cannot pass classified information via a private email server. Not only is it not illegal, it was very common. Not only did two former Republican Secretaries of State use this similar set ups, but also current Congressmen at the time. Why didn't we investigate anyone else?

A dozen investigations and no charges against Hillary Clinton - yet they still call her "crooked". And we have having yet another investigation into this.

This is just stunning. How can anyone claim to be a patriot and wearing a flag lapel on their suit and not demand a full investigation into potential collusion with the Russian government? Better yet, why aren't Republicans demanding a full investigation into the Russian government interfering with our election? Why isn't this a top priority for everyone in our government?

This isn't a Republican vs Democrat thing for me. The person I wanted to vote for was Republican, but in the end it I vote for "anyone other than Trump". I loved Reagan, I supported both Bushes; I would have walked through the gates of hell for President Bush after 9/11. I want my government to stop launching investigations that everyone knows is pure bullshit. At the same time I want to know what happened there. We had a dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton - why can't we have one investigation into what happened here?

What are we afraid of?

Does the Republican party really think it can take on the FBI? The FBI can decide to open up an investigation against Nunes any time it wants. They can start filing subpoenas and start hauling people in for questioning; They can collect every single email Nunes ever saw or wrote. The FBI will bury them. The president has always feared the FBI since the days of J. Edgar Hoover exactly for this reason.

Eventually we will have a Democratic president in office - and we will surely have more investigations into this. The truth will come out.

Rochard · 01-31-2018, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

So no excuse as for the double standard other then hypocrisy?

Clearly you don't mean the Nunes memo, because it's not worth the paper it's printed on being Nunes was on Trump transition team and has clearly shown he is incapable of being objective.

Might as well be written by Trump's lawyer's which it probably was...

Nunes should be charged with obstruction of justice at this point. It's obvious his only intention is to interfere with a FBI investigation.

crockett · 01-31-2018, 06:24 PM

The founding fathers of this country would have hung or shot half of the Republican congress by now for being traitors..

That's a fact..

Vendzilla · 01-31-2018, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Republicans can say whatever they want about the dossier. It was originally started by Republicans. There is nothing wrong, illegal, or even immoral about it. It's opposition research. Everyone in the political arena does this.

In this case, the opposition research turned up some alarming information which was then reported to the FBI. Again, nothing wrong about this at all.

When combined with other information - including information from other governments - it was decided to open up an investigation. It would have been criminal not to.

When the Republicans are attacking Democrats for political reasons, it's perfectly acceptable. Now that the shoe is on the other foot it's not acceptable.

You want a double standard? I'll give you one right here on GFY. Vendzilla. When Obama was in office and unemployment was dropping every month, Vendzilla wanted to have conversations about the "true" unemployment rate. Now that Trump is in office he is praising the black unemployment rate. Why isn't Vendzilla discussing the "true" unemployment rate - or better yet, the labor participation rate?

Exactly.

The investigations into Hillary Clinton were obviously politically motivated.

With Benghazi there was nothing done wrong by anyone. In fact, there was never even a discussion about a certain crime or violation of the constitution. Remember that woman who lost their son screaming at Hillary Clinton on camera? NOTHING we could have done would have changed the outcome. NOTHING. We had a Marine quick reaction force in Italy, but by the time they could have had boots on the ground it would have been all over - the only end result would have been more Americans in harm's way not to mention we would have invaded another country.

With the email sever there was no crime committed at all. There is no law that says the Secretary of State cannot pass classified information via a private email server. Not only is it not illegal, it was very common. Not only did two former Republican Secretaries of State use this similar set ups, but also current Congressmen at the time. Why didn't we investigate anyone else?

A dozen investigations and no charges against Hillary Clinton - yet they still call her "crooked". And we have having yet another investigation into this.

This is just stunning. How can anyone claim to be a patriot and wearing a flag lapel on their suit and not demand a full investigation into potential collusion with the Russian government? Better yet, why aren't Republicans demanding a full investigation into the Russian government interfering with our election? Why isn't this a top priority for everyone in our government?

This isn't a Republican vs Democrat thing for me. The person I wanted to vote for was Republican, but in the end it I vote for "anyone other than Trump". I loved Reagan, I supported both Bushes; I would have walked through the gates of hell for President Bush after 9/11. I want my government to stop launching investigations that everyone knows is pure bullshit. At the same time I want to know what happened there. We had a dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton - why can't we have one investigation into what happened here?

What are we afraid of?

Does the Republican party really think it can take on the FBI? The FBI can decide to open up an investigation against Nunes any time it wants. They can start filing subpoenas and start hauling people in for questioning; They can collect every single email Nunes ever saw or wrote. The FBI will bury them. The president has always feared the FBI since the days of J. Edgar Hoover exactly for this reason.

Eventually we will have a Democratic president in office - and we will surely have more investigations into this. The truth will come out.

What you left out was the long term unemployment, amd btw, wpr stopped going down like it did during Obamas terms

crockett · 02-01-2018, 06:00 AM

It appears my questions are outside the range of pre made talking points for Team Russsia.. I mean Team Trump... none of the Trump enthusiast seem to be able to think for themselves on this..

Sad.

NewNick · 02-01-2018, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

What you left out was the long term unemployment, amd btw, wpr stopped going down like it did during Obamas terms

Say what ?

Rochard · 02-01-2018, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

What you left out was the long term unemployment, amd btw, wpr stopped going down like it did during Obamas terms

We had 72 consecutive months of dropping unemployment under Obama. Under Trump we had.... six months?

Obama created more jobs in 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2012 than Trump did in 2017.

Trump was handed a perfect economy and he's done nothing with it.

12clicks · 02-01-2018, 07:16 AM

the bottom's delusions don't ever seem to change.

CaptainHowdy · 02-01-2018, 07:33 AM

Rochard · 02-01-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

What you left out was the long term unemployment, amd btw, wpr stopped going down like it did during Obamas terms

Why don't you tell us about the "real unemployment rate" and the labor force participation rate. You were very loud about this during the Obama administration, but oddly enough you don't mention this at all now.

This is the problem with you and hardcore Republicans. The truth isn't important, only stats that makes your team look good.

Meanwhile, you are a former Veteran, and you aren't concerned at all about what is happening to vets. You also aren't concerned about how a foreign power is meddling with our elections which is just stunning.

mineistaken · 02-01-2018, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

^^^ gfy's biggest Trump nut

Mentally ill specimen, Prince, crockett - top 3 in no particular order

Acepimp · 02-01-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We had 72 consecutive months of dropping unemployment under Obama. Under Trump we had.... six months?

Obama created more jobs in 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2012 than Trump did in 2017.

Trump was handed a perfect economy and he's done nothing with it.

Once again Rochard and Crockette are completely delusional and omitting key facts to fit their Obama fan boy narrative.

Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract

Top Ex-White House Economist Admits 94% Of All New Jobs Under Obama Were Part-Time

JOBS JOBS JOBS!! And people need to work 3 of them. Will you guys EVER be honest? Or get some real news????

Crockette I will be back to answer your questions, when I get out of bed and get to my pc

thommy · 02-01-2018, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

#1 ) I've seen many of you accuse the FBI of plotting aginst Trump and trying to villify them as has right wing media. Usually the rational is claims some FBI agent liked Hillary or claims that things like the dossier is fake because someone in the DNC paid for it and so on..

Let's just assume that's a reasonable reason to lay doubt on the Russia investigation.. Let's say I give you that as reasonable doubt..

Now my question is.. Why do you not hold Devin Nunes and Jeff Sessions to that same standard? Why is it ok to have Trump using the DOJ to interfere with the FBI investigation and why don't you call for Nunes to be removed as part of the investigation when he was part of Trump's team..

Seems you guys are supporting a double standard here so explain why the same rules should not apply to your guys that you expect applied to everyone else?

#2) While Obama was president, while Clintion was president, we sat through countless investigations which were obviously politically motivated in my opinion, but once again, let's give you guys the benifit of doubt and assume you really wanted to see if wrong doing was done..

Why now the sudden change of heart? Why are you guys so scared of the FBI investigation into Russia interfering in our election? Why not just let it run its course like Clintion did with the Kenneth Star investigations and Obama did with the countless Benghazi investigations? Again why not hold yourselves to the same rules you thought others needed to be held to?

i think the question is much easier:

if there is nothing - why does he try so hard to finish that investigation and fires all and everyone who is in charge of that.

if the truth is: there was nothing they will only find nothing.
if trump would be clean in that he would sit and smile and wait til they find NOTHING.

one does not need more than an amoeba´s brain to see what is going on.

thommy · 02-01-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It appears my questions are outside the range of pre made talking points for Team Russsia.. I mean Team Trump... none of the Trump enthusiast seem to be able to think for themselves on this..

Sad.

if trump kills all his family tomorrow - put them on a barbeque and eat them in front of all mankind they would find an excuse for that because the need their "king".

sad only that the king of people with IQ 50 only has to have IQ 60 to control them.

Acepimp · 02-01-2018, 01:48 PM

Alright Crockett, here's the deal:

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Originally Posted by crockett

#1 ) Now my question is.. Why do you not hold Devin Nunes and Jeff Sessions to that same standard? Why is it ok to have Trump using the DOJ to interfere with the FBI investigation and why don't you call for Nunes to be removed as part of the investigation when he was part of Trump's team..

Seems you guys are supporting a double standard here so explain why the same rules should not apply to your guys that you expect applied to everyone else?

WRONG! Crockette, Trump dossier is FAKE. Understand? Trump's political opponents paid for a fake dossier, then took the bogus info in the dossier to the FISA court judge, KNOWING THAT THE INFO WAS FALSE. That's a CRIME. Understand?? Nunes isn't interfering with shit, the Dems are lying to you like CORNERED RATS.

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Originally Posted by crockett

#2) Why now the sudden change of heart? Why are you guys so scared of the FBI investigation into Russia interfering in our election? Why not just let it run its course like Clintion did with the Kenneth Star investigations and Obama did with the countless Benghazi investigations? Again why not hold yourselves to the same rules you thought others needed to be held to?

Was Mueller fired yet? NO! So WTF are you talking about?? Mueller is not dirty and is running an honest "investigation." No one is worried about him. The Dems are lying to you AGAIN.

GOP Rep: FISA Memo Will Show How Obama Officials, Hillary Clinton and DNC Weaponized FBI to Target Political Adversaries

UPDATE: White House Snubs Deep State – Says They Will Release Memo Without Redactions

The MEMO will show that the Russia investigation has been a HOAX and that the Dems have been lying to the public this whole time. Seriously Crockett, you should abandon your news sources and find better ones. Try Gateway Pundit and Daily Caller

PR_Glen · 02-01-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Say what ?

Yeah, I hate it when blog hounds use there idiotic abbreviations as if everyone is on their stupid propaganda shill sites and knows what they are talking about automatically. I'm just going to assume he meant Wisconsin Public Radio and move along, it probably makes more sense than what he meant anyway.

PR_Glen · 02-01-2018, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp

Alright Crockett, here's the deal:

WRONG! Crockette, Trump dossier is FAKE. Understand? Trump's political opponents paid for a fake dossier, then took the bogus info in the dossier to the FISA court judge, KNOWING THAT THE INFO WAS FALSE. That's a CRIME. Understand?? Nunes isn't interfering with shit, the Dems are lying to you like CORNERED RATS.

Was Mueller fired yet? NO! So WTF are you talking about?? Mueller is not dirty and is running an honest "investigation." No one is worried about him. The Dems are lying to you AGAIN.

GOP Rep: FISA Memo Will Show How Obama Officials, Hillary Clinton and DNC Weaponized FBI to Target Political Adversaries

UPDATE: White House Snubs Deep State – Says They Will Release Memo Without Redactions

The MEMO will show that the Russia investigation has been a HOAX and that the Dems have been lying to the public this whole time. Seriously Crockett, you should abandon your news sources and find better ones. Try Gateway Pundit and Daily Caller

It's not a hoax though, they have already made charges and arrests and people have plead guilty on this already. The only thing in question is who is left that is guilty or not. A hoax would mean nobody has been charged and no evidence was found.

Jesus.. would you check your sources please?

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Acepimp · 02-01-2018, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

It's not a hoax though, they have already made charges and arrests and people have plead guilty on this already. The only thing in question is who is left that is guilty or not. A hoax would mean nobody has been charged and no evidence was found.

Jesus.. would you check your sources please?

^^ WHAT?? There were charges/arrests based on info in the fake dossier about peeing prostitutes and russian blackmail with video tapes?

HAHAHAAHAHAHA!!! Sorry Glen, that's false. There have been no charges that have anything to do with Trump.

And if you can disprove the info from Gateway Pundit, please do

Revealed: How Hillary paid for notorious 'golden showers' dossier on Trump: Her campaign lawyer funded dirty tricks firm's research into his Russian links which came up with discredited claims

Sarn · 02-01-2018, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

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This is just stunning. How can anyone claim to be a patriot and wearing a flag lapel on their suit and not demand a full investigation into potential collusion with the Russian government? Better yet, why aren't Republicans demanding a full investigation into the Russian government interfering with our election? Why isn't this a top priority for everyone in our government?
...

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Originally Posted by crockett

The founding fathers of this country would have hung or shot half of the Republican congress by now for being traitors..

That's a fact..

What Was Russia?s Spy Chief Doing in Washington Last Week?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-top-...administration

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Bladewire · 02-01-2018, 04:15 PM

^^^ Russian hates America, American culture & Democracy. Posts on a porn board how much he loves dictators & Putin. Sad that his country is too weak to overthrow it's dictator

Acepimp · 02-01-2018, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Republicans can say whatever they want about the dossier. It was originally started by Republicans. There is nothing wrong, illegal, or even immoral about it. It's opposition research. Everyone in the political arena does this.

In this case, the opposition research turned up some alarming information which was then reported to the FBI. Again, nothing wrong about this at all.

WRONG! It's not "just oppo research" when it's completely made up, you know it's made up, and you fraudulently obtain a fisa warrant. Those warrants are supposed to be for foreign targets. Trump tower NY is not overseas. It's criminal abuse of power, AND the dems spent $12 mil in campaign contributions on the fake dossier that was used illegally! Wow, the donor's money was well spent! And now the DNC is in debt millions.

Rochard how can you ignore these facts? Also, if that's just oppo research, then clearly Don Jr didn't do anything wrong talking to some lawyer from Russia, who turned out to be DNC bait.

Also this: Media, Dems Ignore Hillary Ukraine Collusion

^^ Actual collusion with foreign governments

Rochard · 02-01-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn

What Was Russia?s Spy Chief Doing in Washington Last Week?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-top-...administration

This is a damn good question too.

Is this something that has happened under other administrations?

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Trump enthusiast, I have 2 questions for you.. #1 ) I've seen many of you accuse the FBI of plotting aginst Trump and trying to villify them as has right wing media. Usually the rational is claims some FBI agent liked Hillary or claims that things like the dossier is fake because someone in the DNC paid for it and so on.. Let's just assume that's a reasonable reason to lay doubt on the Russia investigation.. Let's say I give you that as reasonable doubt.. Now my question is.. Why do you not hold Devin Nunes and Jeff Sessions to that same standard? Why is it ok to have Trump using the DOJ to interfere with the FBI investigation and why don't you call for Nunes to be removed as part of the investigation when he was part of Trump's team.. Seems you guys are supporting a double standard here so explain why the same rules should not apply to your guys that you expect applied to everyone else? #2) While Obama was president, while Clintion was president, we sat through countless investigations which were obviously politically motivated in my opinion, but once again, let's give you guys the benifit of doubt and assume you really wanted to see if wrong doing was done.. Why now the sudden change of heart? Why are you guys so scared of the FBI investigation into Russia interfering in our election? Why not just let it run its course like Clintion did with the Kenneth Star investigations and Obama did with the countless Benghazi investigations? Again why not hold yourselves to the same rules you thought others needed to be held to? __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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