SIK

Three crucial problems with current "porn google":

1. First page always dominated by 10 biggest tubes, maybe 1-2 intruders that got there randomly and will stay there for a very short while (despite the broad answer to query)

2. Results are heavily diluted by mainstream newspaper articles and google books, even for most explicit pure porn queries

3. Long tail queries are not computed as they used to be (like "thommy example lucy miller fucks with john doe on the balcony")

I just tried searching for: upskirt of girl in red skirt
First result: https://xhamster.com/videos/pink-ski...pskirt-1427779
Problem: this result does not even contain the word RED anywhere on the page, but hey, it's xhamster

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CrazyMartin

you dont know how to use google

type red skirt upskirt of girl

or even more precise:

+red skirt upskirt of girl


when you type
upskirt of girl in red skirt

google takes priority for 'upskirt of girl'
and shows you strong result for this, additionally pink is almost synonym of red

so you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT

google thinks better than you

Focus

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Klen

Funny, but i see some increase of google traffic on my sites which i have'nt updated for years, and which didnt had almost any google traffic for years as well.

SIK

Erm...
Firstly, I do know how to use +/- and "" and such in search.
I never heard of priorities in search query word order though.

so here is a few random thoughts.....

1. assuming you're correct about priority stuff, do you think surfers looking for porn are that savvy?

2. assuming you're correct about priority stuff, "upskirt of girl in red skirt" - there is probably a shitload of strong results with exact thing, literal - why would google even prioritize to show me a partial match from strong site (xhamster)?

3. your "even more precise advice": +red skirt upskirt of girl
first 3 results don't have "red skirt" anywhere in the text - what happened to priority stuff?

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thommy

if you show me your site i am sure i can tell you in 10 seconds what the problem is.

sure xhamster have something like a reputation (not that much as amazon but probably much more than you).

also true is this:

you guys mostly don´t understand how google thinks and how an engine works.

you can even try this search:

https://www.google.com/search?q=upsk...kirt+-xhamster

...in case you don´t like xhamster

even when you put a sentence in google all words inside have a range.
if "red" is what you prefer first than write it first

i think a lot of users know more about search engine rules as many webmasters who want to get the traffic from there.

believe me - if you understand how machine logic works you can piss on SEO because all nessecary SEO knowledge i can write on 1 single sheet of paper.

there are MUCH more important things around than links and unique content.

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@thommy

first you were all about first spot for "lucy miller fucks with john doe on the balcony" and now you're all about query words having range

honestly, I'd say the truth is much simpler
a silly example on how I view this shit........

query "one two three four"

xhamster video title "one three" match rating: 50 points
your site video title "one two three four" match rating: 100 points

xhamster "trust" rating 100 points
your site "trust" rating 10 points

results:
xhamster 150 points
pornhube...
xnxx..
xvideos...

page 107 - your site



for the sake of simplifying math, I've used the same weight of "matching" and "trust", but it is probably much heavier impact to have bigger trust rating, coz that would explain shitload of results that merely vaguely brush up on the search query that they are ranking for

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thommy

it is not THAT simple because trust is heavy but not that heavy weighted that you can´t top it.

unfortunately xhamster understood a lot of google´s ranking factors.
i you example with the red shirt it is just the big number of related content they show on the same site.

as soon as a search is not that clear that google can show EXACTLY what a user did search for - the number of relevant variants are the trick.

if you go again on this result page from xhamster you´ve posted before and search for ALL keys you gave google on that site you will see what i mean.

search it in ALL possible combinations and you will see that google delivered you the best result for your search.

on a search one, two, three and four not only the exact match is a possible variation also:
one, two, seven
or: two,three,nine
or: one two three four - eleven
or: one two three four - eleven twenty

you have to understand what searches are sharp and wich ones are unsharp.

if you ask someone for the way to the pacific he can want to go to los angeles OR to san diego.

if someone want to help you on that question he will show you the rough direction to the pacific but will send you on a road what have a crossroad with a sign "san diego" left and "los angeles" right.

to understand this you should make searches on other unsharp keys from mainstream like "hotels", "cars" and things like that and then sharp the phrases slowly to "luxury hotels" and "sports cars" - than to "luxury hotels in africa" and "mercedes sports cars" you will EXACTLY see what google does. it is pure logic and every result is explainable (with exceptions for "algo accidents" in the world of chaos)

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SIK

Google images results kind of prove that google perfectly understand what I want - "upskirt of girl in red skirt" - 80 or more % of pics show exactly that

Regarding normal, textual results - that is kind of weird really, they do exactly what you're saying - relevant variants on big sites, sort of doorway pages in a way

but... why? there is shitload of videos / galleries / articles that PRECISELY show an upskirt of a girl that is wearing a red skirt. Why not direct the surfer to some blog/tube/whatever with exact answer of it?

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Klen

Well this is becoming more interesting - i spotted my site on eleven page of my former second main keyword , from where i disappeared on penguin update and never got back till now.

SIK

out of curiosity - when did you spot it?

other than "core update" a week ago, I have a feeling they seriously reshuffled things last night as well

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Klen

Today And your feeling is right, as i see changes on many other sites as well, many sites which had same fate as mine returning as well. I guess you could call this update "return of the dead " lol

MKA

Having extremely positive results the past 24 hours either. I had to blink 500 times to actually believe what my stats were showing.

However, spending over 10 years understanding Google, I know this could be over in a minute.

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Klen

Yes i really hope this is'nt some sort of mistake.

thommy

loool...because when you used the picture search you already told google that you want pictures.
look at the web search you have tried - this is completely different and allows much more possible results.

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SIK

Situation indeed looks similar to when penguin went real time and ALL sites with penguin penalty suddenly popped back, late 2016 or so

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bgmen

I can confirm it. One of my sites literally crashed last week. Looks like there's some brand-new update in their algorithm that totally messes things up, at least for me.

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MKA

This is to good to be true.
My se traffic is back at numbers from mid 2008.
Enjoy while it lasts.

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