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Old 04-03-2018, 08:01 PM   #1
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Mueller let's everyone know Rosenstein is in on the "collusion"

And I don't mean Trump collusion....Mueller attached a directive/scope/memo by Rosenstein to a court pleading. Basically Mueller just gave the judge all he needed to throw Manfort's case out and tossed the "collusion" spotlight on Rosenstein.


"Here’s the weird part about this: The Rosenstein “secret” memo revealed in this week’s court filing is dated August 2, 2017. According to media reports, Paul Manfort’s home was raided July 26, 2017. So that means Rosenstein’s laid out the more specified scope and definition of authority for the special counsel investigation six days after Manafort’s home had already been raided."

https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analys...naforts-house/

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And in other news, Mueller is bowing out... The roaches are running...

Robert Mueller reportedly tells Trump’s lawyers president not criminal target
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...nt=newsale rt
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keep lieing and deflecting numbnuts. He may not be a target but still can be a subject. My guess he's baiting Chump to sit down and give an interview so he can hang himself

Mueller can't indict a sitting president, hence he can't be a target. But he can release a report of his findings which could be used to impeach

You neo nazis love to point out how everyone else is a nazi!
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So offhemeds.. aka onewebcam.. How do you feel now that your nonsense theory of Muller over reaching when he charged Manafort has been proven wrong.. just like all your theories?

It must be rough having a track record so bad as yours..
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Also... your "source" is a rightwing nutter website founded by a relgious quack..The Washington Times site..
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Also... your "source" is a rightwing nutter website founded by a relgious quack..The Washington Times site..
"Special counsel Robert Mueller has reportedly told President Trump’s attorneys that he is not a criminal target of his probe, but he still wants to interview him to wrap up his investigation into possible obstruction of justice."

Read it and weep. Trump will not be charged. Trump will not be impeached. Accept it and move on.
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"Special counsel Robert Mueller has reportedly told President Trump’s attorneys that he is not a criminal target of his probe, but he still wants to interview him to wrap up his investigation into possible obstruction of justice."

Read it and weep. Trump will not be charged. Trump will not be impeached. Accept it and move on.
Let me explain legal terms to you...

Target = ready to be charged and indicted

Subject = not ready to be charged but can become a target..


Muller just like Comey chooses his words carefully.. Obviously if Muller is looking for a interview with Trump, he will not be a target ready to be charged but still a subject in a investigation..

The part of this you are trying to breeze over is Muller will be releasing a report on Trump for Obsteuction of Justice.. Republicans voted to impeach Clinton over obstruction of justice..

Trump is done.. it's just a matter of how long the cat lets him squirm...


target is someone that the government has substantial evidence linking him or her to criminal activity and is close to presenting that evidence to a grand jury for potential charges (or a judge for an arrest warrant on a complaint).

The technical definition of a subject is: a person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury’s investigation. A subject of an investigation is someone that the prosecutor and agents believe to be involved in criminal activity but do not yet have substantial evidence against. Often, law enforcement wants to interview a subject of an investigation, either informally or before the grand jury, in an effort to obtain sufficient evidence against the person.

https://www.stahlesq.com/blog/target...on-of-interest

I say again.. Trump = fucked..


My guess in how it all plays out.. They probably can't criminally charge him as a sitting potus due to executive privilege. So it will happen in stages.

The obstruction of justice charges will drop 1st and that will lead to impeachment or his resignation. Once He's out of office then the criminal charges are brought forward.

Trump is fucked.. but it's gonna be a nice long hard fucking..
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Let me explain legal terms to you...

Target = ready to be charged and indicted

Subject = not ready to be charged but can become a target..


Muller just like Comey chooses his words carefully.. Obviously if Muller is looking for a interview with Trump, he will not be a target ready to be charged but still a subject in a investigation..

The part of this you are trying to breeze over is Muller will be releasing a report on Trump for Obsteuction of Justice.. Republicans voted to impeach Clinton over obstruction of justice..

Trump is done.. it's just a matter of how long the cat lets him squirm...


target is someone that the government has substantial evidence linking him or her to criminal activity and is close to presenting that evidence to a grand jury for potential charges (or a judge for an arrest warrant on a complaint).

The technical definition of a subject is: a person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury’s investigation. A subject of an investigation is someone that the prosecutor and agents believe to be involved in criminal activity but do not yet have substantial evidence against. Often, law enforcement wants to interview a subject of an investigation, either informally or before the grand jury, in an effort to obtain sufficient evidence against the person.

https://www.stahlesq.com/blog/target...on-of-interest

I say again.. Trump = fucked..

Dear dumbass, Mueller met with Trump the day before his appointment for a "job interview." For a job he couldn't actually do because he had already served 12 years. 2 of which Congress had to approve because technically max term is 10.

The investigation was a ruse to keep the fools at bay and the conspirators at play.

Rosenstein has been running the coverup for the Clinton cabal.
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Dear dumbass, Mueller met with Trump the day before his appointment for a "job interview." For a job he couldn't actually do because he had already served 12 years. 2 of which Congress had to approve because technically max term is 10.

The investigation was a ruse to keep the fools at bay and the conspirators at play.

Rosenstein has been running the coverup for the Clinton cabal.
I feel sad that you're so gullible. One guy is spending his first 30 days in federal prison after lying to the FBI for Trump. Countless guilty pleas and guys flipping to help Mueller and you still think pizzagate ud real and Mueller isn't targeting Trump, his son & son I law

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I feel sad that you're so gullible. One guy is spending his first 30 days in federal prison after lying to the FBI for Trump. Countless guilty pleas and guys flipping to help Mueller and you still think pizzagate us real and Mueller isn't targeting Trump

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Dear dumbass, ALL charges are related to acts done during Obama's admin on his and Hillary's pet project Ukraine... NOT Trump's campaign.. Even the most recent "indictment" is him lying about his Ukraine dealings.. And his business partner? Obama Admin legal counsel, Clinton Admin legal counsel.
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Dear dumbass, ALL charges are related to acts done during Obama's admin on his and Hillary's pet project Ukraine... NOT Trump's campaign.. Even the most recent "indictment" is him lying about his Ukraine dealings.. And his business partner? Obama legal counsel, Clinton legal counsel.
Why lie?

Of course Obama was President idiot the election hasn't happened yet and Trump wasn't elected what your mom drop you on your head when you were a kid?

Trump announced his run on June 16, 2015 after preparing since 2014.

2014-Nov. 2016 is Trump colluding with enemies of the state to steal an American election.

Not to mention the plea by George Papadopoulos marked the first criminal charges that cite interactions between Trump campaign associates and Russian intermediaries during the 2016 presidential election.

Let's not forget Trump the Jr. Russia emails June 2016 you moron.



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Why lie?

Of course Obama was President idiot the election hasn't happened yet and Trump wasn't elected what your mom drop you on your head when you were a kid?

Trump announced his run on June 16, 2015 after preparing since 2014.

2014-Nov. 2016 is Trump colluding with enemies of the state to steal an American election.

Not to mention the plea by George Papadopoulos marked the first criminal charges that cite interactions between Trump campaign associates and Russian intermediaries during the 2016 presidential election.


Let's not forget Trump the Jr. Russia emails June 2016 you moron.




A researcher put all the links together on Alex van der Zwaan who's business partner is Greg Craig AKA Obama White House Counsel and Bill Clinton Special Counsel

His charge is related to his dealings in Ukraine...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/9...825585664.html
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"A researcher put all the links together" = a conspiracy theorist molded your malleable weak mind again.

Funny how you ignore the facts that I posted with links and you go on with your conspiracy bullshit what a fucking waste of time you are denying reality and going on with your conspiracy crap.
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"A researcher put all the links together" = a conspiracy theorist molded your malleable weak mind again.

Funny how you ignore the facts that I posted with links and you go on with your conspiracy bullshit what a fucking waste of time you are denying reality and going on with your conspiracy crap.
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Gregory Bestor "Greg" Craig (born March 4, 1945) is an American lawyer and former White House Counsel under President Barack Obama from 2009 to 2010. A former attorney at the Washington, D.C. law firm of Williams & Connolly, Craig has represented numerous high-profile clients. Prior to becoming White House Counsel, Craig served as assistant to the President and special counsel in the White House of President Bill Clinton, where he directed the team defending Clinton against impeachment. Craig also served as a senior advisor to Senator Edward Kennedy and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_B._Craig


"Former Skadden lawyer pleads guilty" (to lying about his Ukraine dealings)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/u...a-mueller.html



Gregory B. Craig
Of Counsel, Litigation

https://www.skadden.com/professionals/c/craig-gregory-b

They are both partners in the same law firm. Craig set up the Ukraine report Van der Zwaan wrote.

Whatever Obama and Hillary were doing in Ukraine must have been SERIOUS because EVERYONE involved in that is tied up in this mess.

If I had to take a guess, that's where the Uranium One exports ended up..
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==> Trump not a target

==> Flynn will have all charges dismissed

==> Rosenstein & McCabe will be in legal trouble

==> IG report will lead to indictments

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And in other news, Mueller is bowing out... The roaches are running...

Robert Mueller reportedly tells Trump’s lawyers president not criminal target
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...nt=newsale rt
I love these fake news articles.. always skip to the last paragraph


Blah blah blah..

"three people familiar with the discussions"

Blah blah blah..
"two people with knowledge of the conversations."

And finally but actually...

“But there are plenty of instances where a guy walks into a grand jury a subject. He gets out and is told: ‘Guess what, you’re a target now.’ ”

Did you guys actually read that not fucked up on meds? Its like a series of cut and pastes written by different people, and then a final conclusion at the end flipping the lot on the head, sorta how fox news does it. Clickbait head line, dribble conspiracy theory shit, and then the.. but actually at the end. Its like they print this shit hoping you only read the title and the first paragraph.

I thought webmasters were supposed to be smart??
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I love these fake news articles.. always skip to the last paragraph


Blah blah blah..

"three people familiar with the discussions"

Blah blah blah..
"two people with knowledge of the conversations."

And finally but actually...

“But there are plenty of instances where a guy walks into a grand jury a subject. He gets out and is told: ‘Guess what, you’re a target now.’ ”

Did you guys actually read that not fucked up on meds? Its like a series of cut and pastes written by different people, and then a final conclusion at the end flipping the lot on the head, sorta how fox news does it. Clickbait head line, dribble conspiracy theory shit, and then the.. but actually at the end. Its like they print this shit hoping you only read the title and the first paragraph.

I thought webmasters were supposed to be smart??
WaPo: Mueller told Trump's lawyers the President isn't a criminal target in Russia probe
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/polit...ler/index.html

And now the story flips to "Mueller is just going to write a 'report' on Trump."

"The special counsel also told Trump’s lawyers that he is preparing a report about the president’s actions while in office and potential obstruction of justice, according to two people with knowledge of the conversations. …"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.fbf137b7834a

While in office? I thought this was about the election?
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Let me explain legal terms to you...

Target = ready to be charged and indicted

Subject = not ready to be charged but can become a target..


Muller just like Comey chooses his words carefully.. Obviously if Muller is looking for a interview with Trump, he will not be a target ready to be charged but still a subject in a investigation..

The part of this you are trying to breeze over is Muller will be releasing a report on Trump for Obsteuction of Justice.. Republicans voted to impeach Clinton over obstruction of justice..

Trump is done.. it's just a matter of how long the cat lets him squirm...


target is someone that the government has substantial evidence linking him or her to criminal activity and is close to presenting that evidence to a grand jury for potential charges (or a judge for an arrest warrant on a complaint).

The technical definition of a subject is: a person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury’s investigation. A subject of an investigation is someone that the prosecutor and agents believe to be involved in criminal activity but do not yet have substantial evidence against. Often, law enforcement wants to interview a subject of an investigation, either informally or before the grand jury, in an effort to obtain sufficient evidence against the person.

https://www.stahlesq.com/blog/target...on-of-interest

I say again.. Trump = fucked..


My guess in how it all plays out.. They probably can't criminally charge him as a sitting potus due to executive privilege. So it will happen in stages.

The obstruction of justice charges will drop 1st and that will lead to impeachment or his resignation. Once He's out of office then the criminal charges are brought forward.

Trump is fucked.. but it's gonna be a nice long hard fucking..
He is correct about the first part - Trump is in no way cleared. That doesn't mean he will be removed, but he WILL be impeached if Dems take the house, which is looking more and more likely.
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WaPo: Mueller told Trump's lawyers the President isn't a criminal target in Russia probe
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/polit...ler/index.html

And now the story flips to "Mueller is just going to write a 'report' on Trump."

"The special counsel also told Trump’s lawyers that he is preparing a report about the president’s actions while in office and potential obstruction of justice, according to two people with knowledge of the conversations. …"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.fbf137b7834a

While in office? I thought this was about the election?
Apparently Hannity wears a blue dress with cum stains on it... well at least according to two people with knowledge of the conversations.
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He is correct about the first part - Trump is in no way cleared. That doesn't mean he will be removed, but he WILL be impeached if Dems take the house, which is looking more and more likely.
They have to have both the House and the Senate for impeachment.. And it takes 2/3rds vote in the Senate. It's not happening. Especially after the nukes are dropped on the Dems.

The Trump "obstruction of justice" BS is just that. Rosenstein is the person who advised Trump to fire Comey......,. Rosenstein is the person who appointed Mueller.... Rosenstein is the person obstructing justice.
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They have to have both the House and the Senate for impeachment.. And it takes 2/3rds vote in the Senate. It's not happening. Especially after the nukes are dropped on the Dems.

The Trump "obstruction of justice" BS is just that. Rosenstein is the person who advised Trump to fire Comey......,. Rosenstein is the person who appointed Mueller.... Rosenstein is the person obstructing justice.
You are not only a nutcase but are uneducated about what constitutes an impeachment. President Clinton was impeached may provide you with a hint.
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You are not only a nutcase but are uneducated about what constitutes an impeachment. President Clinton was impeached may provide you with a hint.
House votes on impeachment.

Senate holds a trial and must vote 2/3rds guilty for impeachment.

Clinton was acquitted in the second phase (the trial) of impeachment, in the Senate.

Tell me more uneducated one..
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House votes on impeachment.

Senate holds a trial and must vote 2/3rds guilty for impeachment.

Clinton was acquitted in the second phase (the trial) of impeachment, in the Senate.

Tell me more uneducated one..
Yup, Amazing how people don't know this. Trump will not be impeached.
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"Special counsel Robert Mueller has reportedly told President Trump’s attorneys that he is not a criminal target of his probe, but he still wants to interview him to wrap up his investigation into possible obstruction of justice."

Read it and weep. Trump will not be charged. Trump will not be impeached. Accept it and move on.
He can't be the target. how do you equate this to not being able to be impeached? Clinton got impeached for fibbing, do you really think the same couldn't happen to any president?
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He can't be the target. how do you equate this to not being able to be impeached? Clinton got impeached for fibbing, do you really think the same couldn't happen to any president?
He wasn't impeached ffs. He was acquitted by the Senate. Just as what OneWeb is saying. It takes 2/3rds to pass it through. It won't happen.
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He wasn't impeached ffs. He was acquitted by the Senate. Just as what OneWeb is saying. It takes 2/3rds to pass it through. It won't happen.
Bill Clinton was indeed impeached by the house. The Senate did not find him guilty of the charges presented in the impeachment. Does not change the fact that he was impeached. To have been impeached does not require removal from office. The house impeached and presented articles to the Senate to consider as reasons for removal of office.
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Yup, Amazing how people don't know this. Trump will not be impeached.
Impeachment means articles of impeachment being brought against you doesn't mean that you have been taken out of office just like Clinton.

Do you understand now how American politics and impeachment works?

If the house passes the vote to impeach that's impeachment.
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Let me explain legal terms to you...

Target = ready to be charged and indicted

Subject = not ready to be charged but can become a target..


Muller just like Comey chooses his words carefully.. Obviously if Muller is looking for a interview with Trump, he will not be a target ready to be charged but still a subject in a investigation..
They've been investigating the man for almost 2 years. If he's not a target by now.. they don't have shit on him.
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They've been investigating the man for almost 2 years. If he's not a target by now.. they don't have shit on him.
Trump is a target are you daft?

Luckily for Trump he likely got Manafort, Trump Jr & Kushner to do the Dirty Deeds.
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Trump is a target are you daft?

Luckily for Trump he likely got Manafort, Trump Jr & Kushner to do the Dirty Deeds.
Well take that up with your buddies beerptrl & Crockett. Those are their words (see below)

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Obviously if Muller is looking for a interview with Trump, he will not be a target ready to be charged but still a subject in a investigation..
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Trump is a target are you daft?

Luckily for Trump he likely got Manafort, Trump Jr & Kushner to do the Dirty Deeds.
I think the reality that Trump will not be charged with jack shit is setting in. Mueller just told us so...sorry, time to move on
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I am not seeing what he problem is here.

Mueller raided Manafort's house, and found incriminating evidence of a crime. He went back to Rosenstein for clarification and was told to follow up on ALL LEADS.

If the investigation turns up another crime, they can follow up on that lead and press charges. That's how investigations work.

I am not even sure why this is up for debate. If you get pulled over for speeding and they find meth in your car, guess what - you go to jail for meth. When they impound your car and find a dead body, guess what - you go to jail for the dead body. They don't say "Gee, we only pulled you over for speeding so you only get a ticket and we'll just ignore the meth and the dead body". It's an investigation. They are trying to figure out what crimes have been committed.

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Dear dumbass, ALL charges are related to acts done during Obama's admin on his and Hillary's pet project Ukraine... NOT Trump's campaign.. Even the most recent "indictment" is him lying about his Ukraine dealings.. And his business partner? Obama Admin legal counsel, Clinton Admin legal counsel.
You are so stupid is really sad. Of course things happened under Obama presidency as it all pertains to the election.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
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You are so stupid is really sad. Of course things happened under Obama presidency as it all pertains to the election.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
^^ Manafort was working for the Podesta brothers.

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You are so stupid is really sad. Of course things happened under Obama presidency as it all pertains to the election.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
All of the charges are related to dealing in Ukraine YEARS before the election.
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Mueller knows his working with the dumbest president of all time.
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All of the charges are related to dealing in Ukraine YEARS before the election.
It's clear you have no clue what is going on.. Manafort is charged with bank fraud which happened in 2016 while he was running Trump's campaign. He's also charged with other shit as well with Ukraine, but as usual you pick and choose what you want to believe and make up fairytales to make the bad stuff into things you can feel good about.

You are seriously one stupid motherfucker..

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/u...s-mueller.html
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It is.. Out in probably 2 weeks. And the term "prison" being tossed around is hilarious. Big fucking joke is what it is.
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Leftwing and Rightwing top attorneys agree, Rosenstein and Mueller are out of control

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Fox News lol
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That's all you got?
You keep getting proven wrong and you keep acting like you haven't been beat down. Typical Russian social warfare, be a one way street of disinformation don't budge from parameters. Lame
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That's all you got?
Still more than you got! All you post is alt right propaganda bullshit.
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Throw on your favorite dress costume queen and get ready to be sitting in the back of the ballroom pouting.
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Still more than you got! All you post is alt right propaganda bullshit.
Life long avid democrat supporter Alan Dershowitz is alt-right?

You guys are so desperate now. It's sad. If he is not a subject after 19 people have been indicted he's NEVER going to be a subject you dumb fucking illegal!
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I like when the dumb people denounce lefties like Alan Dershowitz- he must be a nutjob "because Fox!" LOL

I'm sure Trump is real worried about his impending impeachment.

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