'They raped every German female from eight to 80' - GoFuckYourself.com

DraX · 12-13-2018, 08:49 PM

This is something we don't read or hear too often about.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ews.features11

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Antony Beevor, author of the acclaimed new book about the fall of Berlin, on a massive war crime committed by the victorious Red Army.

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"Red Army soldiers don't believe in 'individual liaisons' with German women," wrote the playwright Zakhar Agranenko in his diary when serving as an officer of marine infantry in East Prussia. "Nine, ten, twelve men at a time - they rape them on a collective basis."

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One can only scratch at the surface of the psychological contradictions. When gang-raped women in Königsberg begged their attackers afterwards to put them out of their misery, the Red Army men appear to have felt insulted. "Russian soldiers do not shoot women," they replied. "Only German soldiers do that." The Red Army had managed to convince itself that because it had assumed the moral mission to liberate Europe from fascism it could behave entirely as it liked, both personally and politically.

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In Dahlem, Soviet officers visited Sister Kunigunde, the mother superior of Haus Dahlem, a maternity clinic and orphanage. The officers and their men behaved impeccably. In fact, the officers even warned Sister Kunigunde about the second-line troops following on behind. Their prediction proved entirely accurate. Nuns, young girls, old women, pregnant women and mothers who had just given birth were all raped without pity.

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Estimates of rape victims from the city's two main hospitals ranged from 95,000 to 130,000. One doctor deduced that out of approximately 100,000 women raped in the city, some 10,000 died as a result, mostly from suicide. The death rate was thought to have been much higher among the 1.4 million estimated victims in East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia. Altogether at least two million German women are thought to have been raped, and a substantial minority, if not a majority, appear to have suffered multiple rape.

Bladewire · 12-13-2018, 08:52 PM

A 16 year old article

How timely of you SMH

You are so desperate

badgirlfilms · 12-13-2018, 09:57 PM

not bad if you just turned 81

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Matt 26z · 12-13-2018, 11:37 PM

They put Germany through those fake Nuremberg trials and covered up massive war crimes done by the allied forces.

just a punk · 12-14-2018, 12:58 AM

That was predictable after that they did to Russian women...

https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%...&tbm=isch&sa=X - thousands of women with infants in their hands raped and killed by Germans.

https://www.google.com/search?q=zoya... bm=isch&sa=X - an underaged girl hanged and then gang banged by German soldiers and officers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatyn_massacre - no comments...

And that's just famous cases - filmed on camera etc...

Do you know that Soviet Union had the greatest human life loses during WWII? Maybe you really know that of course... but do you know that 70% of them were civilians? Yes, military loses were not that much at all as the civilians who were raped, burned alive, tortured and killed by Germans?

mce · 12-14-2018, 01:00 AM

War is hell....

huey · 12-14-2018, 01:54 AM

Kill them all let god sort them out.

_Richard_ · 12-14-2018, 01:55 AM

just a punk · 12-14-2018, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatyn_massacre

and yes, most of that crimes were committed by the Ukrainian police under command of their German Nazi masters.

k0nr4d · 12-14-2018, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatyn_massacre

and yes, most of that crimes were committed by the Ukrainian police under command of their German Nazi masters.

There is another one with almost the same name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

pimpmaster9000 · 12-14-2018, 03:15 AM

And today we have gay rape camps in the USA that out-rape everybody...200K/year and going strong...

CaptainHowdy · 12-14-2018, 03:35 AM

Not the rape card . . .

_Richard_ · 12-14-2018, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

There is another one with almost the same name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

i am pretty sure that is what he meant to reference.. a little sobering that we're mixing up multiple massacres

NewNick · 12-14-2018, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

They put Germany through those fake Nuremberg trials and covered up massive war crimes done by the allied forces.

Well at least you are not a fake idiot. Definitely the real thing.

And you wonder why Trump supporters get called Nazi.

klinton · 12-14-2018, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Well at least you are not a fake idiot. Definitely the real thing.

And you wonder why Trump supporters get called Nazi.

he is also a Holocaust & Nazi crimes denier.

as for OP - well, I think that after all what Germans did in Poland and Eastern Front, they should be happy that they got "only" this. And when you consider their original plan to enslave all nations east of Germany, I think that they should be happy that Allies didnt have similar plan for them after winning ww2.
and yeah, war is hell indeed.

klinton · 12-14-2018, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Do you know that Soviet Union had the greatest human life loses during WWII? Maybe you really know that of course... but do you know that 70% of them were civilians? Yes, military loses were not that much at all as the civilians who were raped, burned alive, tortured and killed by Germans?

Soviet Union, Poland and China

even worse rates for Poland (around 300 k military death, 6 mlns civilans killed including 3 mlns Poles of Jewish origin)

btw. military deaths in Soviet Union were kind of similar to civilian deaths - around 10 mlns for each of them.
this explains a lot how harsh was eastern front, how big was the Soviet put into Alllied victory and how "big" was respect for conscripts life in Soviet army

MaDalton · 12-14-2018, 06:17 AM

wasn't a big topic at the coffee table but from what I understood - and from their undying hate for Russian people - i took that this happened to one of my grandmothers.

i don't blame Russians today for that - just like I don't blame myself or Germans born after 1945 for what the Nazis did.

But what is annoying is that many (not all) Russians totally deflect and deny when it comes to that topic - or try to shift the blame.

it happened, it was an evil time, admit it, say sorry - just like we do for what our ancestors did.

can't be that hard.

but you see the same in Poland (where it's forbidden to mention that there were also antisemites among the Poles that helped to bring down Jews), in Hungary (where Hungarians actively helped the Nazis killing Jews) and Czech Republic (where it took ages to finally admit that Czechs killed German civilians after the war had ended).

Soviet propaganda taught all these countries for 40+ years that the evil facsism alone was guilty for everything and they were the better society. And if you dared to raise your finger and point at your own people... off to Gulag you went.

klinton · 12-14-2018, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

but you see the same in Poland (where it's forbidden to mention that there were also antisemites among the Poles that helped to bring down Jews),

anti semitism was and is spread in Europe, both pre and after ww2. But its not Poles that created death camps and "fabriques of death" - industrial killing not seen in the history - these were Germans under nazi ideology. No fault whatsoever of Poles in that.
It was also not Poles that were driven by crazy ideology to enslave or kill the whole planet, and specially lands east to Germany. It was a German idea that resulted in ww2,
The country that started WW2 is also Germany, no one else.
Btw. So many Russians these days actually forget that Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were in kind of good relations together, and they together attacked Poland. Soviets didnt mind at all the war crimes that Nazis were comitting in Poland on huge scale. Heck, they also comitted some of them by themselves (much smaller scale though).
I consider mentioned Polish law as simply stupid. First of all, it bans any possibility for any open discussion, which is just stupid and not right. Second, usually things that are forbidden by law are more "demanded" - so I bet that this law will have the opposite effect as they want.
And last but not least - Poland was the only country in German Nazi occupied Europe, where any help to Jews (like hiding them and so on) was punishable by law created by occupying Nazi Germans by DEATH. Yet, there were still tens of thousands if not hundreds of 1000s Poles that been helping - hiding in their homes, preparing false documents, giving food etc.
And yes, unfortunately there were also Polish people that profited or tried to profit on this situation by "selling" Jews to Nazis etc. Bear in mind though that such activities were punishable by Polish Underground and Home Army - which were basically the biggest underground/ partisan organisations during WW2 in Europe. Anyway, its certain that there were Polish people that did bad things during ww2. Just like some Poles by themselves killed around 1,000-2,000 Jews in few pogroms during ww2 and shortly after (total number of Jews killed in Holocaust organised by Nazi Germans - around 6 mlns). Those happened mostly in Eastern Poland. Some of these pogroms were actually so brutal that local Jews asked for help Germans...
And yeah, lets also not forget about total devastation of Poland (one of the highest civilian losses in the world, destroyed cities, infrastrcuture etc) during WW2 - so it was actually a place where not only Jews suffered

MaDalton · 12-14-2018, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

anti semitism was and is spread in Europe, both pre and after ww2. But its not Poles that created death camps and "fabriques of death" - industrial killing not seen in the history - these were Germans under nazi ideology. No fault whatsoever of Poles in that.
It was also not Poles that were driven by crazy ideology to enslave or kill the whole planet, and specially lands east to Germany. It was a German idea that resulted in ww2,
The country that started WW2 is also Germany, no one else.
Btw. So many Russians these days actually forget that Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were in kind of good relations together, and they together attacked Poland. Soviets didnt mind at all the war crimes that Nazis were comitting in Poland on huge scale. Heck, they also comitted some of them by themselves (much smaller scale though).
I consider mentioned Polish law as simply stupid. First of all, it bans any possibility for any open discussion and research, which is just stupid and not right. Second, usually things that are forbidden by law are more "demanded" - so I bet that this law will have the opposite effect as they want.
And last but not least - Poland was the only country in German Nazi occupied Europe, where any help to Jews (like hiding them and so on) was punishable by law created by occupying Nazi Germans by DEATH. Yet, there were still tens of thousands if not hundreds of 1000s Poles that been helping - hiding in their homes, preparing false documents, giving food etc.
And yes, unfortunately there were also Polish people that profited or tried to profit on this situation by "selling" Jews to Nazis etc. Bear in mind though that such activities were punishable by Polish Underground and Home Army - which were basically the biggest underground/ partisan organisations during WW2 in Europe. Anyway, its certain that there were Polish people that did bad things during ww2. Just like some Poles by themselves killed around 1,000-2,000 Jews in few pogroms during ww2 and shortly after (total number of Jews killed in Holocaust organised by Nazi Germans - around 6 mlns). Those happened mostly in Eastern Poland. Some of these pogroms were actually so brutal that local Jews asked for help Germans...

I totally agree to all of that and it would be healthy to discuss it openly rather than forbidding to talk about it at all - and get hysteric everytime someone mentions it.

it's like saying Jehova in Life of Brian

Manfap · 12-14-2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

but you see the same in Poland (where it's forbidden to mention that there were also antisemites among the Poles that helped to bring down Jews), in Hungary (where Hungarians actively helped the Nazis killing Jews) and Czech Republic (where it took ages to finally admit that Czechs killed German civilians after the war had ended).

Yep same in the Baltics, they couldn't wait to get rid of their undesirables.

Rochard · 12-14-2018, 08:11 AM

It's not new for sure.

Sarn · 12-15-2018, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

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original plan to enslave all nations east of Germany
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poor Poland

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Originally Posted by StefanG

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Originally Posted by StefanG

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But what is annoying is that many (not all) Russians totally deflect and deny when it comes to that topic - or try to shift the blame.
it happened, it was an evil time, admit it, say sorry - just like we do for what our ancestors did.
can't be that hard.
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yes we rape every German female from eight to 80, sorry

#meetoo

klinton · 12-15-2018, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn

poor Russia

Ruskie, how is it going in a country with average salary of 400 euros and price of good cheese more expensive than in EU ?

still proud ?

Tasty1 · 12-15-2018, 07:22 AM

From a country with Ubermenschschen to a Germany full of half Russians. That explains a lot. All friends of Putin.

celandina · 12-15-2018, 09:33 AM

Act of revenge..

Case closed

Sarn · 12-15-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

From a country with Ubermenschschen to a Germany full of half Russians. That explains a lot. All friends of Putin.

Sarn · 12-16-2018, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

From a country with Ubermenschschen to a Germany full of half Russians. That explains a lot. All friends of Putin.

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
The husband of Queen Elizabeth II is a grandnephew of the last czarina, Alexandra, as well as a great-great-grandson of Nicholas I. His two-part Romanov connection means that his son Prince Charles and his grandsons, Princes William and Harry, are all Romanov relatives. In 1993, after the unmarked graves believed to contain the remains of Nicholas II, Alexandra and three of their daughters were exhumed, Prince Philip even offered a blood sample to scientists seeking to identify the remains. His mitochondrial DNA matched that of the bodies believed to be those of Alexandra and the three girls, helping to confirm their identity.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...cholas-II.html

Alex CZ · 12-16-2018, 07:30 AM

What did you expect? 4 years of rape, murder and crime commited by Germans in USSR? Millions deported to labor camps to be servants of "master race".
Master race got what they deserved. Good lesson learned.

Paul Markham · 12-16-2018, 07:39 AM

"i don't blame Russians today for that - just like I don't blame myself or Germans born after 1945 for what the Nazis did.

But what is annoying is that many (not all) Russians totally deflect and deny when it comes to that topic - or try to shift the blame."

Aren't you shifting the blame to Nazis, When in fact they were Germans?

seeandsee · 12-16-2018, 08:15 AM

what to expect when germans killed 20mil russians

romeo22 · 12-16-2018, 08:36 AM

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MaDalton · 12-16-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

"i don't blame Russians today for that - just like I don't blame myself or Germans born after 1945 for what the Nazis did.

But what is annoying is that many (not all) Russians totally deflect and deny when it comes to that topic - or try to shift the blame."

Aren't you shifting the blame to Nazis, When in fact they were Germans?

say what?

Bladewire · 12-16-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

Ruskie, how is it going in a country with average salary of 400 euros and price of good cheese more expensive than in EU ?

still proud ?

I like all Russians I've met in real life so far, great people just like Americans in many ways. They always do honest business and are good hard-working people I've never been fucked over by a Russian as met in real life, but Putin sympathizers online, they are the most spitefully sarchastic people I've ever encountered, full of hate & animosity.

My thought is the average Russian needs help of the EU & West to kill off those with the stranglehold on their freedom in Russia. Putin and his cronies are like a cancer on the freedom & liberty the people in Russia deserve.

klinton · 12-17-2018, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

My thought is the average Russian needs help of the EU & West to kill off those with the stranglehold on their freedom in Russia. Putin and his cronies are like a cancer on the freedom & liberty the people in Russia deserve.

nothing against Russians here - I kind of like them and they are funny.
But I think that you should read more about history of Russia, their group mentality and more about their country lol

Putin was a perfect solution for Russia 15-20 years ago, hopefully eventual change wont be worse than him

Paul Markham · 12-17-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

say what?

Germans were Nazis, just as much as Russians were Soviets. Both were seduced by power over fellow human beings. Just as much as British were colonialists.

MaDalton · 12-17-2018, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Germans were Nazis, just as much as Russians were Soviets. Both were seduced by power over fellow human beings. Just as much as British were colonialists.

not all Germans were Nazis, not all Russians were communists and not all British were colonialists - concentration camps and prisons can tell you that story.

but today everyone needs to accept that every country has dark times in their history and while not personally responsible for the past, everyone should know enough about history that they know they are responsible for what happens in the future.

so if you vote for nationalism, fascism or communism today, you cannot say later you didn't know what happens when they come back to power. you are guilty.

MaDalton · 12-17-2018, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

I like all Russians I've met in real life so far, great people just like Americans in many ways. They always do honest business and are good hard-working people I've never been fucked over by a Russian as met in real life, but Putin sympathizers online, they are the most spitefully sarchastic people I've ever encountered, full of hate & animosity.

My thought is the average Russian needs help of the EU & West to kill off those with the stranglehold on their freedom in Russia. Putin and his cronies are like a cancer on the freedom & liberty the people in Russia deserve.

PS: I do get to meet Russian people a lot, never had any issues, many great people among them.

But last year one guy told me how he closes all windows and only talks in a low voice when he talks politics at his own home (in Moscow) - and that is something I always thought we won't get to experience ever again after 1989.

so why do people forget so easily and fall for the same shit again?

Sarn · 12-17-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

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But last year one guy told me how he closes all windows and only talks in a low voice when he talks politics at his own home (in Moscow) - and that is something I always thought we won't get to experience ever again after 1989.
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Time send comrade CyberSEO in the gulag

Manfap · 12-17-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

so if you vote for nationalism, fascism or communism today, you cannot say later you didn't know what happens when they come back to power. you are guilty.

Spanish communist party is quite mellow, they're part of the coalition that runs the city I live in.

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Originally Posted by StefanG

not all British were colonialists.

We weren't the only ones. We were the just the best

Spain, Portugal, France, Nederlands, Belgium, Italy and even your good selves were colonialists.

MaDalton · 12-17-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

We weren't the only ones. We were the just the best!

Spain, Portugal, France, Nederlands, Belgium, Italy and even your good selves were colonialists.

no debate about that, as I said earlier: every country committed crimes at some point of history - some of them excelled.

JFK · 12-17-2018, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mce

war is hell....

yes.........

Sarn · 12-17-2018, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

no debate about that, as I said earlier: every country committed crimes at some point of history - some of them excelled.

I agree, comrade, all countries have so crimes, especially in History. And nazis was not so bad, even good.

just a punk · 12-17-2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

But last year one guy told me how he closes all windows and only talks in a low voice when he talks politics at his own home (in Moscow) - and that is something I always thought we won't get to experience ever again after 1989.

More and more people admit that Russia turns into a Fascist state. Not Nazi but Fascist (these are two different things actually). However I never heard of someone who was imprisoned for calling Putin a senile moron.

The kids sing that they are literally going to die at war for Putin:

And yes, this is not normal. Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

Sarn · 12-18-2018, 10:09 AM

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However I never heard of someone who was imprisoned for calling Putin a senile moron.
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ok. CyberSEO will stay in the home, not go in the gulag

https://coub.com/view/1ev1a4

just a punk · 12-18-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sarn

ok. Cyberseo will stay in the home, not go in the gulag

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