Bladewire

January 26th, 2018 Dow Jones 26,616

Today 25,980

Why has the economy been so stagnant the last 17 months under Trump?

OneHungLo

Ah we’re in a massive tradewar + 8 rate hikes?

Bladewire

A trade war that Donald Trump started which triggered the rate hikes.

Trade war increases prices of goods, increased prices increases inflation, rate hikes decrease inflation.

See how that works?

#ThanksTrump

What methods can the government use to control inflation?

crockett

Fun fact.. for every "steel job" created by the tariffs it cost consumers $900,000.00.

Imagine the amount of people that could have been hired with out the tariffs..

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Busty2

You are wasting your breath trying to explain things to Chump supporters, they only understand lies, exaggeration, badly spelled tweets and narcissistic comments!

NoWhErE

But but but... the job rates went up by a few %!!!!!!

(lets just ignore everything else is in the shit, lets just focus on that small little improvement)

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BaldBastard

And they only had to borrow an extra trillion to get them!

OneHungLo

Even if that was true (it’s not) what you are saying is you want to allow China to steal a half a trillion of American intellectual property. Because either you want Trump to do something about it or you don’t. Which is it?

pimpmaster9000

those pissant rate hikes you keep moaning about are on the far far right side of the chart below...all 8 of them...tiny pissant hikes...funny how it never mattered before when the rate hikes were much much higher but it matters now





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Bladewire

So you don't know basic economics

So you're not capable of following the link I provided which proves everything I said is correct

So your response is to say I'm wrong, without countering how I'm wrong, because you're lying.

RedFred

Shut up about rates. They are still historically low. During Reagan the prime peaked at 20.5% and the market had 117% gain.

King Mark

The only thing he knows is the 40's are coming. 2019 damn near halfway done already.

He scared and doing everything his little fingers can do to deny the inevitable fall of racist white Americans within 20 years.

OneHungLo

You clearly do not have any money invested or follow the market because even the mere mention of a rate hike causes the market to sell off hundreds of points for several days.

Thanks for proving how ignorant you are 👍🏼

Bladewire

Show us three instances where that's happened the last two years. Just 3

You talk and fail to prove your claims.

pimpmaster9000

funny how this never mattered before

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OneHungLo

March 20, 2019 Dow falls as stock market moved lower sparked by Federal Reserve interest rate decision

December 19 2018 Dow dives 350 points, closes at new low for the year after Fed hikes rates

October 10, 2018 Dow Jones drops more than 800 points in the face of rising rate fears

November 19, 2018 Dow closes down nearly 400 points as tech losses batter stock market

June 13, 2018 Dow falls nearly 120 points after Fed hikes rates, points to more increases in 2018

April 24, 2018 Interest Rate Rise Unsettles Stock Investors; Dow Falls 425 Points


Now what?

Next month you're going to say the trade war hasn't done anything to the market.

directfiesta

Trump doubles down: 'Trade wars are good, and easy to win'
-- March 2nd , 2018

pimpmaster9000

1% falls?

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Bladewire

Your morbidly obese sugar daddy is fucking up Obama's economy!

Everything was in a straight upward projection through Obama's presidency into Trump's presidency and within a year Trump fucked up Obama's economy and now the last 17 months it's just stagnant bullshit.

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OneHungLo

What do you think they fall for one day?

Just look at all those drops. Every time that Powell opens his mouth about a rate hike or lack of cut (Dow drops 120 points, stocks fall for a second day after Fed Chief Powell signals no rate cut soon) , the dow tanks for days on end.

He single-handedly shaved off 3-5k points off the DOW since he went on a tear of raising rates.


PS - If you want my nuts dragged across your face you can just ask. You don't have to come here and make yourself look like a fool

Bladewire

You can't have it both ways dipshit

You can't say Trump is responsible for the economy and then say someone else's in responsible for everything bad happening in the economy especially when you're an idiot starts trade wars with 25% tarriffs.

You've seen how much are farmers have been fucked over by this tariff War and it's all because of trump and you think those people are going to vote for Trump again fuck no, especially since he cut off all subsidies due to tariffs right after the 2018 midterms.

OneHungLo

The economy is fine - Lowest unemployment in 50 years, low interest rates, low inflation, tax cuts fueling wage increases, growing GDP...but we are in a trade war. We should be glad that we're up over 40% since Trump's election.

You have to understand that Trump is fighting this fight because no other SHIT bought-and-paid-for politician will NEVER fuck with China. They're all paid off. That's how we got here in the first place.

Trump is fighting back.

You either support him fighting China or you support China fucking us in the ass and stealing a half a trillion worth of IP from us a year - Which is it?

Bladewire

There's nowhere to go when you start at a delusional lie.

An article from yesterday

The Bond King Is Worried About The Economy And You Should Be, Too. | Forbes

RedFred

What in the world does 'several days' have to with 17 months?

Yes, I'm the ignorant one.

You can be quite entertaining at times.

OneHungLo

They've raised the rate 8 times, and each of those 8 rate hikes the market has fallen 'several days' after each hike.

WTF is so hard to understand about that? What do you think they raise the rates and market sells off for one day and then all is forgotten?

Like is said, you clearly do not follow the market.

You just don't understand how this all works. Stay ignorant, idiot.

Rochard

TRUMP 2020.

LOL. Just kidding.

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Bladewire

They have to raise rates to keep Trump's inflation in check.

They only started raising rates when Trump started the trade War.

The trade war started January 22, 2018

The stock market stopped climbing January 26, 2018

17 months of a trade war with China and our economy is stagnant.

Facts are facts

Obama had the stock market climbing and it went great for a year until Trump started the trade war he fucked it all up.

OneHungLo

But inflation isn't rising. There was actual talks of cutting the rate last week because it's still super low. But then they scraped it and the market fell 350 points.

But you still didn't answer my question: You either support him fighting China or you support China fucking us in the ass and stealing a half a trillion worth of IP from us a year - Which is it?

OneHungLo

AGAIN -TRUMP IS FIGHTING CHINA.

OBAMA HAD 8 YEARS OF FREE MONEY, NO TRADE WAR (he let China con't to fuck us) AND ZERO RATE HIKES.


DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT WANT TRUMP TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT CHINA FUCKING US??

pimpmaster9000

oh so talking about rate hikes and this causing panic is new and specific just to the trump presidency OR there was always talk about rate hikes and it never mattered even at high as fuck rates...

now go back to being a nut rest...

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pimpmaster9000

spoons do not make you fat...china does not force you to move your production there and then buy the shit out of their cheap shit...you do this yourselves...there is nothing china can do about this...it is how you are

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Bladewire

Why lie?

Trump has had 2 years and 4 months to deal with China.

In that 2 years and 4 months the trade deficit with China is at a all time world record high

In that 2 years and 4 months Trump has had a trade war with China that created that all-time world record high trade gap.

Trump failed

You want the economy to fail and you're going to blame it on China, not the trade War Trump created.

The trade war started January 22, 2018

The stock market stopped climbing January 26, 2018

OneHungLo

I just listed 6 times that the market dropped 120-800 pts in a day because of these unnecessary rate hikes. And those were 1 day. When this fed raises those rates it has an affect on the market. I guess you're realizing that now? Kind of hard to disagree with that, right?

Just admit it, you don't follow this shit and your ignorance allows me to drag my scrotum and beautiful circumcised American dick right across your face.

OneHungLo

What the fuck do spoons and China stealing 500,000,000,000 dollars worth of IP a year from us?

Bladewire

Trump takes responsibility for all of the economy because Trump is president.

You can't whitewash it and give him all the good and give someone else all the bad it doesn't work that way bitch.

The trade war started January 22, 2018

The stock market stopped climbing January 26, 2018

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OneHungLo

HAha I don't. No matter what, we're still up 40% since election and that's with a trade war and 8 rate hikes. That's pretty awesome

So glad we have a president willing to stand up to China

BagOfDirtyAssholes

bladewire loses...again lol

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If China is fucking us I personally cannot feel it.

(Chinese have little dicks you see, there's the joke.)

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pimpmaster9000

they do not steal your IP...china is upfront about it..."if you greedy ass capitalists want to produce here you gotta hand over the tech fuck you" and you are like "yes greeeeeeed! excellent!" and you hand over the tech...

spoons did not make you fat...china did not steal your tech...you hand it over...and over...

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pimpmaster9000

yes but how come this was not a problem during regan or clinton or bush? they had much higher rates and rate hikes were talked about all the time...

sucks to be you in this argument

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Bladewire

Actually that's not true there's been many cases where American companies have sued them for actually stealing IP.

They've also had cases where China hacked American companies, that are producing in America NOT in China, stolen their IP, and start producing the product in China.

China also does this with counterfeit high end fashion merchandise not produced in China.

OneHungLo

How does it suck to be me? My argument is that when the fed raised the rates, the market went down every time...and i'm right.

You're asking me why it didn't matter then? I don't know. Maybe it did. That was then and this is now.

But back to the argument: did the fed raising the rates drop the market? Yes. I just proved it.

OneHungLo

Good, so you do want something done about it

Trump is getting it done.

I knew you had a lil' red hat in you!!!

Trump 2020

pimpmaster9000

no that was one case...they spied on some mobile crap...mobile testing machine...big fucking deal...you guys literally hand it over...because money...

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pimpmaster9000

exactly! it never mattered before but it matters now...what a joke...


accept it: trump is shit

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Let's just get things straight here. OneHungLo is right about everything and the rest of you retards need to go to economics school lol

OneHungLo

Thanks. We have some people here with stage 5 tds

pimpmaster9000

you took all the narcotics at once?

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