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Old 05-15-2019, 07:18 AM   #1
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Warren tells Fox News to fuck off

Fox News tried to get Warren to do a debate on their network. She told them to fuck off that she wouldn't help them turn their hate into ad revenue..


"Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it’s designed to turn us against each other, risking life and death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that’s rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class...Hate-for-profit works only if there’s profit, so Fox News balances a mix of bigotry, racism, and outright lies with enough legit journalism to make the claim to advertisers that it’s a reputable news outlet. It’s all about dragging in ad money—big ad money..."


Yep she nailed it.. Nice to see she has the balls to stand behind what she says.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:19 AM   #2
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if only everyone knew, that they are giving free content to those channels.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:24 AM   #3
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Seems like a really dumb move to write off the viewers of the biggest network.

She would have had the chance to address the largest audience of her life.

If she has great ideas that she believes can help the country and wants to be President...she should be trying to get her message to as many people as she can.

And I don't think Fox News "tried to get Warren to do a debate".
That's bullshit.

What they did was offer her, and ANY candidate for President free air time to get out their message...not a "debate".
Which is exactly what a news media company is supposed to do.

In my opinion she is getting bad advice from her handlers. If she really wants to win, she needs to get her message out there. CNN doesn't even have a million viewers anymore according to the ratings.
Meanwhile Fox News is the number one cable network.

Big tactical mistake.
Dismissing the largest audience and basically telling all those potential voters that she isn't interested in them.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:30 AM   #4
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It didn't work for Hillary and it won't work for the fake Indian.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:30 AM   #5
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Seems like a really dumb move to write off the viewers of the biggest network.

She would have had the chance to address the largest audience of her life.
Maybe, but do you think she could have changed anyone's mind? And lets face it, you know they would just chant "Pocahontas" while doing the 'Chop thing until she left the stage.
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Seems like a really dumb move to write off the viewers of the biggest network.

She would have had the chance to address the largest audience of her life.

If she has great ideas that she believes can help the country and wants to be President...she should be trying to get her message to as many people as she can.

And I don't think Fox News "tried to get Warren to do a debate".
That's bullshit.

What they did was offer her, and ANY candidate for President free air time to get out their message...not a "debate".
Which is exactly what a news media company is supposed to do.

In my opinion she is getting bad advice from her handlers. If she really wants to win, she needs to get her message out there. CNN doesn't even have a million viewers anymore according to the ratings.
Meanwhile Fox News is the number one cable network.

Big tactical mistake.
Dismissing the largest audience and basically telling all those potential voters that she isn't interested in them.


You are mistaking the largest audience with best ratings.. Fox news has the highest ratings because it's the only news show that really caters to the far right talking points. It just so happens that people on the right want to site and watch news day in and out all day long..

This is the same reason radio talk shows are almost always right wing because the only people who want to listen to it are usually older white dudes.

Meanwhile non radicalized news can be found on multiple networks, from CBS, ABC, NBC but also the 24hr networks like CNN , MSNBC, Sky, BBC, PBS ect..

Meaning Fox has higher ratings because they are really the only pick for people who want to be spoon fed right wing talking points. Meanwhile the rest of the world watches a host of other news shows.. There is far more people watching these other show, so Warren has a far bigger audience then just people who dedicate their lives to watching Fox news...

Here is the kicker Robbie.. the people want to see Warren in a debate will tune into what ever station her debate is on.. Be that NBC, ABC, Fox , RT, wherever.. However people who watch Fox News will not tune into another station just to see her so they really aren't the audience she is worried about because they wont vote for her anyway..

If they want to see her then they tune in where ever, if they just want to watch Fox news then they wont.. Fox just wants the ratings and Warren is smart enough to understand that and brave enough to say it...
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There asking here in Australia that Murdoch media be classified as an political party.
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:09 AM   #8
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You are mistaking the largest audience with best ratings.. Fox news has the highest ratings because it's the only news show that really caters to the far right talking points. It just so happens that people on the right want to site and watch news day in and out all day long..

This is the same reason radio talk shows are almost always right wing because the only people who want to listen to it are usually older white dudes.

Meanwhile non radicalized news can be found on multiple networks, from CBS, ABC, NBC but also the 24hr networks like CNN , MSNBC, Sky, BBC, PBS ect..

Meaning Fox has higher ratings because they are really the only pick for people who want to be spoon fed right wing talking points. Meanwhile the rest of the world watches a host of other news shows.. There is far more people watching these other show, so Warren has a far bigger audience then just people who dedicate their lives to watching Fox news...

Here is the kicker Robbie.. the people want to see Warren in a debate will tune into what ever station her debate is on.. Be that NBC, ABC, Fox , RT, wherever.. However people who watch Fox News will not tune into another station just to see her so they really aren't the audience she is worried about because they wont vote for her anyway..

If they want to see her then they tune in where ever, if they just want to watch Fox news then they wont.. Fox just wants the ratings and Warren is smart enough to understand that and brave enough to say it...
Please stop using Fox and News in the same sentence it's an Oxymoron
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:14 AM   #9
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Please stop using Fox and News in the same sentence it's an Oxymoron
Not an oxymoron if you call it what it is - Faux News.
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The entire world recognizes Fox news to be a joke... only Fox viewers don't understand why yet. Then again, you can't see how other people view you when you never leave home.

Also, Warren going on Fox would have as much impact as if she went on Jerry Springer. Nothing good would come of it.
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Old 05-15-2019, 02:23 PM   #11
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Maybe, but do you think she could have changed anyone's mind? And lets face it, you know they would just chant "Pocahontas" while doing the 'Chop thing until she left the stage.
When Bernie Sanders did his Town Hall on Fox News a few weeks ago, the room was full of Bernie supporters cheering for him.

Warren's campaign would also fill the room with her supporters. That's the right way to do it.

Fox News wouldn't allow any of the ridiculousness you brought up. They never have at any of the actual DNC debates they hosted nor have they ever been discourteous to any of the Democrat politicians that appear on their news programs.

Chris Wallace will be hosting Mayor Pete Buttigieg's town hall on Fox News this Sunday.
Mayor Pete will get a chance to give his ideas for the country to his biggest audience ever.
Smart of him.

As far as will it have any effect...Trump sure did change the minds of Democrat voters in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in the last election.

So why can't Warren do the same thing?

What Trump said to Democrat voters in 2016 made sense to them.

If Warren has actual ideas and vision that makes sense to people they will listen.
If she doesn't campaign to all people, then she is making the EXACT same mistake that Hillary did in 2016.

Remember? The "experts" on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News LAUGHED at Trump for campaigning in those highly Democrat states and said that he was wasting valuable time at the end of the campaign...(of course those same experts had him LOSING in a landslide LOL).

I'm telling you Mark...if you want to WIN the election, you don't ignore half the country.
It's a strategic mistake on her part.
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They should classify CNN as a DNC operative.
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She has proven that she would make a crappy president; unable to work across the aisle apparently.
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She has proven that she would make a crappy president; unable to work across the aisle apparently.
Idiot....
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They should classify CNN as a DNC operative.
Whataboutism... can't reply to the topic has to deflect and blame CNN
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Whataboutism... can't reply to the topic has to deflect and blame CNN
Are you voting for the fake indian? lol she doesn't have a chance in hell at winning the nod from the DNC let alone beating Trump.
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Are you voting for the fake indian? lol she doesn't have a chance in hell at winning the nod from the DNC let alone beating Trump.
Well you voted for the fake businessman..
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She has proven that she would make a crappy president; unable to work across the aisle apparently.




Really .....
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Well you voted for the fake businessman..
Fake successful billionaire. Put the crackett pipe down!!
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She should quit making it about Fox News and just talk to the people who watch Fox News.

This would be a good time for Warren to hold her nose and talk to a part of the population who has been listening to Fox News demonize her. Change their minds. There's probably a few who will like her. I don't like her..she's too far left and looks like she's always on the brink of crying. Basically too tightly wound for me. I like the laid-backness of Mayor Pete much better. And he's not completely to the left of everyone else like Warren is.

I'm not totally in on Kamala Harris, but I can tell she's a woman who has her shit together and will command respect as a president. But it's not gonna happen.
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I dont like fox, but I dont like fake Indians either. So, fuck em all.
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