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Paul Markham · 10-19-2019, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

Hahaha, Paul, you are a riot!

And you still did not answer the question - how many sets at $5000 a piece did you sell per month?

I'll help - a valid answer would be for example 5.

And not a wall of text trying to deflect. ;)

But keep in mind: your company records are public.

And I know my content business has no future. But I knew this years ago and that's why I left and do totally different stuff today.

Now I could tell you too about all the other things you are wrong about, but since you will as always completely ignore what I say, I'll save my time and effort.

But for the love of God - it's must HAVE and not must of...

So how many sets did you sell for $5,000 and still own?

My company records are not for you to review so don't say they are. It doesn't take a genius to know for 90% this business wouldn't last. They killed the golden goose.

To shoot magazine sets for the return we were getting they had to be shot on film. Producers had to first go to meet editors to get them to look at the work. They had to be of new girls who hadn't worked for anyone else. The girls had to be pretty or better and probably teens. They had to be shot right for print. They had to include cover shots. They had to be of the right poses.

Not even Dean Capture could consistently hit all those stipulations and we could. Magazines weren't a market where buyers were interested in price, was it exclusive, number of images and length of the video. They were a market that had 8 sets to buy and a lot of regular suppliers already who they preferred because they knew we would supply the right goods month after month.

MaDalton · 10-19-2019, 03:04 AM

So in short: you don't want to tell.

And this is not about me, you are the one who claims to be rich because you sold $5000 sets that no one else could shoot.

And you are wrong about public records but we'll leave it at that.

Paul Markham · 10-20-2019, 12:39 AM

So send me the url of the site that shows our records.

Paul Markham · 10-22-2019, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

So in short: you don't want to tell.

And this is not about me, you are the one who claims to be rich because you sold $5000 sets that no one else could shoot.

And you are wrong about public records but we'll leave it at that.

A content producer who knows nothing about the business of producing content. Offline paid way more than online, end of lesson. Still no URL or street address PM to me of where Stefan found my company records.

thommy · 10-22-2019, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A content producer who knows nothing about the business of producing content. Offline paid way more than online, end of lesson. Still no URL or street address PM to me of where Stefan found my company records.

ok agree - 100 big offline magazines in 1990 paid much more than 500.000 paysites did in 2014.

the only problem was that you could only sell to 2 or 3 of them or mostly exclusive to 1 only.

i am really not sure where you learned the maths - but you failed.

and that you do not even know how easy it is where and how to get your company details and records online shows that you know nothing about the internet.

so go and find a forum for offliners and cry with them together. ohhh. i forgot - they do not even know how to use a board and that´s why nothing like that exists.
to make such a board would make the same sense as to make a board for neanderthales.
that´s why neandersthales have to go to homo sapiens boards and tell the homo sapiens that he is an error of the evolution.

Paul Markham · 10-22-2019, 11:09 AM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...9-adapted.html

Maybe Thommy knows the answer.

thommy · 10-22-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...9-adapted.html

Maybe Thommy knows the answer.

wrong !

the market knows the answer - if someone thinks the market will run after him he will fail.
as you do not even know what "market" means it is senseless to explain that no airplanes will be build no pilots will be needed, no airlines will survive and no airports will be even planed if no one wants to fly.

SpicyM · 10-22-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

And I know my content business has no future. But I knew this years ago and that's why I left and do totally different stuff today.

What?? I though VR porn was a gold mine ...

MaDalton · 10-22-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

What?? I though VR porn was a gold mine ...

I sold my half of the production company in the year where we had the highest revenue in our history.

So when I speak about my content business now, I only mean the content shop. And licensed content surely has no future, there are no clients anymore.

The Porn Nerd · 10-22-2019, 02:40 PM

I don't know about the porn industry but this thread sure is growing!

MaDalton · 10-22-2019, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A content producer who knows nothing about the business of producing content. Offline paid way more than online, end of lesson. Still no URL or street address PM to me of where Stefan found my company records.

Sure, Paul, I know nothing at all about content.

But obviously you can't even use Google ;)

King Mark · 10-22-2019, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

ok agree - 100 big offline magazines in 1990 paid much more than 500.000 paysites did in 2014.

the only problem was that you could only sell to 2 or 3 of them or mostly exclusive to 1 only.

i am really not sure where you learned the maths - but you failed.

and that you do not even know how easy it is where and how to get your company details and records online shows that you know nothing about the internet.

so go and find a forum for offliners and cry with them together. ohhh. i forgot - they do not even know how to use a board and that´s why nothing like that exists.
to make such a board would make the same sense as to make a board for neanderthales.
that´s why neandersthales have to go to homo sapiens boards and tell the homo sapiens that he is an error of the evolution.

I love this...

AmeliaG · 10-22-2019, 08:44 PM

Print publishing is having a bit of a resurgence, but I'm just going to say that I did writing and/or photography for pretty much all the big magazine publishers in the 90's -- Playboy, Penthouse, Flynt, AVN, Magna, Crescent etc. plus publishing Blue Blood -- and my jaw fucking dropped when I got my first membership site check.

Admittedly, I started off online with the advantage of already having an offline following, but I feel very qualified to say that content online, at least for many years, paid exponentially more than successful offline did before it.

That said, it is trickier to figure out the best ways for a webmaster to monetize today. For example, I'd love to just produce quality exclusive content and post it for free and monetize with ads and affiliate up sells, but the reality is that content wouldn't be exclusive for a minute. Even my non-adult publications have to compete with Facebook and such for eyeballs and knowing basic programmatic advertising doesn't change that.

Nobody expects the secret sauce recipe for free, but it would be nice to see more implementable suggestions than just, "FFS, don't follow Paul's example."

Paul Markham · 10-23-2019, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

I love this...

He knows fuck all about the magazine business.

Paul Markham · 10-23-2019, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Print publishing is having a bit of a resurgence, but I'm just going to say that I did writing and/or photography for pretty much all the big magazine publishers in the 90's -- Playboy, Penthouse, Flynt, AVN, Magna, Crescent etc. plus publishing Blue Blood -- and my jaw fucking dropped when I got my first membership site check.

Admittedly, I started off online with the advantage of already having an offline following, but I feel very qualified to say that content online, at least for many years, paid exponentially more than successful offline did before it.

That said, it is trickier to figure out the best ways for a webmaster to monetize today. For example, I'd love to just produce quality exclusive content and post it for free and monetize with ads and affiliate up sells, but the reality is that content wouldn't be exclusive for a minute. Even my non-adult publications have to compete with Facebook and such for eyeballs and knowing basic programmatic advertising doesn't change that.

Nobody expects the secret sauce recipe for free, but it would be nice to see more implementable suggestions than just, "FFS, don't follow Paul's example."

The cost of production would bankrupt you.

thommy · 10-23-2019, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He knows fuck all about the magazine business.

Are you as sure about that as you are about the fact that nobody knows me in this biz?

celandina · 10-23-2019, 07:58 AM

All the "tears" for none. It is simple, produce a good quality content and sell from your own site and stay in business. Yes, there are pirates ( we fight them a lot) but the core business remains essentially the same for the past 12 years since we launched. Our production costs went up during the decade, but so did our revenue, so all in all the net revenue remains about the same.

thommy · 10-23-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The cost of production would bankrupt you.

how can you know ?

amerla said yes and does it you say no and don´t do it.

and what costs of production? you paid a girl 300 $ A DAY !!!
how many scenes you can shoot in a day ? 4, 5, 6 ?

so what costs are you talking about ? you even shot with SD camera when every amateur was using already HD.

I do not understand why you always want to be smarter as the ones that are DOING IT.

you just assume things with that little nut in your head that you call brain.
you did even not good in the good times paul - you can´t because you are not creative and you do not have a single clue of marketing.

the stupidest one still in business today would have become a millionaire in your time. you're not - so you can't even handle simple things - how do you want to understand complex things or judge them?

The Porn Nerd · 10-23-2019, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

All the "tears" for none. It is simple, produce a good quality content and sell from your own site and stay in business. Yes, there are pirates ( we fight them a lot) but the core business remains essentially the same for the past 12 years since we launched. Our production costs went up during the decade, but so did our revenue, so all in all the net revenue remains about the same.

This is exactly right.

Going on 11 years now with this same strategy. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Paul Markham · 10-24-2019, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina

All the "tears" for none. It is simple, produce a good quality content and sell from your own site and stay in business. Yes, there are pirates ( we fight them a lot) but the core business remains essentially the same for the past 12 years since we launched. Our production costs went up during the decade, but so did our revenue, so all in all the net revenue remains about the same.

So did you ever experienced the business pre tubes?

Would love to see your site, PM me a link.

celandina · 10-24-2019, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

This is exactly right.

Going on 11 years now with this same strategy. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Glad there are more of us

celandina · 10-24-2019, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So did you ever experienced the business pre tubes?

Would love to see your site, PM me a link.

we launched in October 2007... so, tubes were about BUT I did not pay attention to which ones.

as to my site ? Only if you keep it in strict confidence.

Paul Markham · 10-25-2019, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

we launched in October 2007... so, tubes were about BUT I did not pay attention to which ones.

as to my site ? Only if you keep it in strict confidence.

Will keep it between you and I and not share it.

Paul Markham · 10-25-2019, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

Glad there are more of us

How many of us adapted to other sides of the industry successfully?

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celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,408	All the "tears" for none. It is simple, produce a good quality content and sell from your own site and stay in business. Yes, there are pirates ( we fight them a lot) but the core business remains essentially the same for the past 12 years since we launched. Our production costs went up during the decade, but so did our revenue, so all in all the net revenue remains about the same.