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celandina · 06-19-2020, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.

The ONLY mask that has any efficacy is the N95 medical mask.
It can filter out virus up to 95%

All the little masks that people are running around wearing don't do anything except stop "droplets" (liquid again) when you sneeze.

The virus itself is microscopic and isn't affected at all by the mask.

Here is the simple math and what are you missing logic !

Double layered cloth mask is about 60 % effective while exhaling and about 40% effective while inhaling.

Now look at a viral load of a factor 100 in a person next to you who has a mask:

His viral load while exhaling in your direction is reduced to 40.

Now if you are wearing a mask you may inhale only 40% of the load from a factor 40 which is factor 16 of the initial load.

So simple stated, if both are wearing a mask, the risk of transmission is reduced 5x or more.

nikki99 · 06-19-2020, 07:28 AM

yes I use it the n95 very expensive but oh well

<----------- not this one

celandina · 06-19-2020, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Screwed Up

Ever heard of an immune system?
If you don't use it, you lose it.
And living in a bubble won't safe you, it will just make you weaker...

And die??! Seriously if you are among the less than 1% of the people that die from this, maybe you should die and leave the planet to the rest of us that are stronger.

Hey, I have some invites for a polio parties... Sorry, they are outdated since polio was eradicated , BUT NOT by some strong heard immunity BUT by PPEs and eventually by vaccine.

But guess what, I have some Ebola parties tickets left. Right up your alley ...

SBJ · 06-19-2020, 08:20 AM

I don't wear one inside or in my yard but I've wore one since day one in public. I also get groceries every 2 weeks instead of weekly to make fewer trips out. When I go to Walmart I see about 60% of people wearing masks. Last time I was at a gas station there were 12 people inside and I was the only one wearing a mask.

People are STUPID!

The Porn Nerd · 06-19-2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I feel the same but have the opposite perspective you have. I think all of this is an overreaction. And I don't think it's that people are utter idiots, it's that their emotions are taking over - like with every topic - and then they rationalize their side, or point of view.

There are 1000s of harmful things in our world and 1000s of things we can do that would reduce those harmful things by 1%, yet we don't do them. Decrease driving accidents, cleaner environment, better eating (which will save our health and the health system), reducing suicide, concussion protocols, possibility of war etc... I could go on. We don't take actions that would reduce those likelihoods by 1% so why do it for Corona? How would we even start to rank what's the most harmful thing for us and then decide to take action to reduce that by 1%?

It would take too much time and too many resources and we as humans just don't do that for good and bad reasons. We live with risk and we go about our day as best we can, moving forward making things better a bit at a time. There are far more dangerous things to worry about out there than Corona.

BTW, the lockdown is said to have increased tuberculosis in the world by 5 million cases over the next few years and 1.4 million deaths. That's just one adverse affect of the lockdown. 1.4 million deaths ... now you ask me about people who are so utterly stupid ... again, it's not that they are stupid, it's that this issue is now politicized and that's one more reason why (on top of my rationale above and belief they are generally not needed) I don't wear a mask.

Well, a few things here: regardless of your views whether this is a serious situation or not wearing a mask is done FOR OTHERS, not for yourself. Have you been tested? Do you know 100% YOU do not have Covid-19? I doubt you did get tested. So guess what? YOU may be a carrier and not even know it! And even if you DID get tested some time ago you still may have caught it without wearing a mask and thus may be spreading it RIGHT NOW.

YES there are dangerous things in the world like you listed but most of those things (all?) will not have an end point where there is a vaccine and treatment coming. Again, wearing a mask is not forever. LOL

MaDalton · 06-19-2020, 10:02 AM

I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.

Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries

all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too

meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers

I rest in my case

Rochard · 06-19-2020, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.

The ONLY mask that has any efficacy is the N95 medical mask.
It can filter out virus up to 95%

All the little masks that people are running around wearing don't do anything except stop "droplets" (liquid again) when you sneeze.

The virus itself is microscopic and isn't affected at all by the mask.

There shouldn't be any debate about wearing masks.

The virus itself is microscopic. However, the virus is carried in the air by water droplets - from when we breathe out, cough, or sneeze. The masks prevent the water droplets from entering your mouth and nose when you breathe.

It it 100% effective? Dunno. But it's better than nothing.

Vegas is opening up, and they got slammed with new cases. Now the casinos are making everyone wear masks.

kane · 06-19-2020, 11:31 AM

It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover.

If the experts are all 100% wrong and the mask does nothing, all you are out is wearing a piece of cloth on your face for a few minutes while you are in a store or public place.

It is literally the least a person can do to help the country (and world) recover. The fact that some people are passionately against it just blows my mind.

The Porn Nerd · 06-19-2020, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.

Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries

all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too

meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers

I rest in my case

Exactly. Same is true here in the United States. Those States (mostly red/republican) who did not lockdown or eased restrictions too early are seeing rising cases and daily records of new cases. Yet America just keeps chugging along, seeming not to care...

What's more, in those "red" States the Governors are STILL saying "everything is fine" and not making mask-wearing mandatory while their Covid-19 numbers keep going up daily. It's madness.

kane · 06-19-2020, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Exactly. Same is true here in the United States. Those States (mostly red/republican) who did not lockdown or eased restrictions too early are seeing rising cases and daily records of new cases. Yet America just keeps chugging along, seeming not to care...

What's more, in those "red" States the Governors are STILL saying "everything is fine" and not making mask-wearing mandatory while their Covid-19 numbers keep going up daily. It's madness.

It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.

The Porn Nerd · 06-19-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.

Yup. Thx Trump!

I wonder how many deaths our dear President is responsible for with his irresponsible behavior?

Rochard · 06-19-2020, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Porko

Pretty cool tshirt man. Yes, I wear a mask all the time. It's a civic duty

I got it at a $5 store. I added in a "smokey the bear" baseball cap from Amazon, grabbed a rake... And took a selfie mocking Trump's "We need to rake the forrest".

Good times.

Rochard · 06-19-2020, 04:26 PM

In California... Masks are now required.

About time.

RandyRandy · 06-19-2020, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Yup. Thx Trump!

I wonder how many deaths our dear President is responsible for with his irresponsible behavior?

I like both of you guys.

I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias.

I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated.

Why?

It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple...

just a punk · 06-19-2020, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.

Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries

all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too

meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers

I rest in my case

You live in a small village-like country. That's why you have almost zero cases of infection (especially when the borders are closed). We in Russia also have a lockdown, isolation, mask regime etc, but it doesn't work, because Moscow, just like NYC is a world hub. So the USA and Russia are the most affected countries. For example, we had 15 flights to/from Wuhan every day. The Moscow agglomeration is more than 25 millions of people who came from around the Globe (I don't even mention Saint Petersburg, Novosibirsk etc). How many live in the whole Czech Republic?

abshard · 06-19-2020, 08:56 PM

Does pulling your tee shirt over you mouth and nose qualify as a mask? I know cloth masks made out of tee shirts are okay even though they don't provide much protection. But just pulling the shirt up over your face, is that acceptable?

I seem to recall a video one someone getting kicked off of a bus because he only used his shirt over his face and the guy kicking off everyone had no mask on.

just a punk · 06-19-2020, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

There shouldn't be any debate about wearing masks.

The virus itself is microscopic. However, the virus is carried in the air by water droplets - from when we breathe out, cough, or sneeze. The masks prevent the water droplets from entering your mouth and nose when you breathe.

Indeed, you are damn right. Have you got your education in a Soviet school?

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It it 100% effective? Dunno.

Of course it can not give you a 100% protection, because when you breath, something goes to your nose through gaps between the mask and your face. But in any case, it saves you against the high concentration of viruses.

Spunky · 06-19-2020, 11:15 PM

Not until they make it law. safe distance and just to make communication a minimum in public for now. Zoom and phone works great

Yanks_Todd · 06-20-2020, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.

The ONLY mask that has any efficacy is the N95 medical mask.
It can filter out virus up to 95%

All the little masks that people are running around wearing don't do anything except stop "droplets" (liquid again) when you sneeze.

The virus itself is microscopic and isn't affected at all by the mask.

And the droplets are full of the virus. So.... yeah. Your explanation makes a case against your own opinion.

Yanks_Todd · 06-20-2020, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover.

If the experts are all 100% wrong and the mask does nothing, all you are out is wearing a piece of cloth on your face for a few minutes while you are in a store or public place.

It is literally the least a person can do to help the country (and world) recover. The fact that some people are passionately against it just blows my mind.

yeah, pretty much that.

Tasty1 · 06-20-2020, 06:14 AM

Used them indoors in supermarket when mandatory. Just went and didn't use them. Only when you buy liquour and gasoline you must keep it up.

But i don't go out that much here in India, it is rainy season and almost everything closed now at the beach. It is quiet here on the streets in low season. On the streets outside the virus hardly spread and no mask needed. You saw that with crowded beaches and BLM protests.

The people that are waiting for a safe vaccin can wait a longtime. I make sure i won't get one shot. I try to bribe a doctor if i need a covid vaccin passport. I don't trust the pharmacy and the governments with that.

The Porn Nerd · 06-20-2020, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I like both of you guys.

I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias.

I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated.

Why?

It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple...

Well I like you too but your attitude is disgusting tbh. It's like you are rooting for death - I mean, 'thinning the herd'. Except we are not "a herd", we are PEOPLE and PEOPLE are dying because of this virus.

Again, you wear a mask to protect yourself but especially to protect OTHERS. To not do so and let there be a 'reset' is frankly absurd and anti-social. It's the same attitude dictators and mass murderers and genocidal maniacs have shown throughout history.

Let the chips (droplets) fall where they may? Dude stay the FUCK away from me if we ever meet on the street.

MaDalton · 06-20-2020, 01:12 PM

This graph is all you need - if you WANT to understand it.

If you want to be ignorant, it won't help either

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The population of the US is 330 million
The population of the EU is 446 million

https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status...29270898716673
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/d...an%20Union~USA

PS: As you can see the US also had a couple extra weeks to prepare, something that was wasted by your ignoramous in charge

kane · 06-20-2020, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I like both of you guys.

I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias.

I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated.

Why?

It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple...

Well. . . I hope the chips don't fall on someone you love.

SekobA · 06-20-2020, 02:45 PM

In my country we have to wear mask in every public place.We are not allowed to enter without a mask..There are huge penalties

CaptainHowdy · 06-20-2020, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

at any of my pizzerias.

Do you ship internationally? "3 Weeks or It's Free"?

RandyRandy · 06-20-2020, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Well I like you too but your attitude is disgusting tbh. It's like you are rooting for death - I mean, 'thinning the herd'. Except we are not "a herd", we are PEOPLE and PEOPLE are dying because of this virus.

Again, you wear a mask to protect yourself but especially to protect OTHERS. To not do so and let there be a 'reset' is frankly absurd and anti-social. It's the same attitude dictators and mass murderers and genocidal maniacs have shown throughout history.

Let the chips (droplets) fall where they may? Dude stay the FUCK away from me if we ever meet on the street.

Not at all "rooting" for death. Just being pragmatic...and even-handed. Why don't we "pause" the world and mandate masks for TB? It's transmitted airborne, human-to-human. Kills 1.5 million people every year, way more than this "pandemic" will...

Don't those 1.5 million people count? Why shouldn't we do everything possible to eradicate TB, whatever the cost?

If you honestly feel my thinking is "disgusting" and I'm thinking like a dictator, etc. all good. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not...

RandyRandy · 06-20-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Well. . . I hope the chips don't fall on someone you love.

Already happened many times throughout my life. There are no guarantees in life: except that we will all die one day...

RandyRandy · 06-20-2020, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Do you ship internationally? "3 Weeks or It's Free"?

I don't even like to deliver pies, so shipping internationally???? If I'd make an exception for anyone, it'd be you!

kane · 06-20-2020, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Already happened many times throughout my life. There are no guarantees in life: except that we will all die one day...

Pretty shitty way of looking at things.

We do all die. That doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps to avoid it.

RandyRandy · 06-20-2020, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Pretty shitty way of looking at things.

Thanks! Works for me...

The Porn Nerd · 06-20-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Not at all "rooting" for death. Just being pragmatic...and even-handed. Why don't we "pause" the world and mandate masks for TB? It's transmitted airborne, human-to-human. Kills 1.5 million people every year, way more than this "pandemic" will...

Don't those 1.5 million people count? Why shouldn't we do everything possible to eradicate TB, whatever the cost?

If you honestly feel my thinking is "disgusting" and I'm thinking like a dictator, etc. all good. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not...

Only little minds use false analogies and equivalencies. There are not 1.5 million people dying of TB in the US (thank God) and I am certain that where TB is a problem those fighting it wish people would wear masks. Besides, we do not know how many covid-19 will kill in a year because we are only months into this pandemic.

There are treatments for TB etc. Not so much for covid-19 and apparently the RT (Rate of Transmission) is way higher with coronavirus. Just because people get cancer, other illnesses, other diseases does NOT mean we should all be fucking idiots and do nothing to prevent that which we can prevent. Again, for others even more so than for ourselves.

But why try to educate someone who is so selfish, prickish and anti-social? I'm just glad you identified yourself as part of the problem and not the solution.

CaptainHowdy · 06-20-2020, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I don't even like to deliver pies, so shipping internationally???? If I'd make an exception for anyone, it'd be you!

No mask, no delivery. You're a man that goes to the wall for his ideas and that is commendable (and I don't think it will hurt anyone).

I'm flatered! Just PM a picture of one of your pies and I will feast on it with my eyes.

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But why try to educate someone who is so selfish, prickish and anti-social? I'm just glad you identified yourself as part of the problem and not the solution.

I'm nobody's advocate but I think we should avoid binary thinking when it comes to this sort-of grey area which is so-far this virus. I still see people lowering their face masks to smoke, to liberally prickle their many facial orifices, eat, drink and so on . . . so the only key to avoid contagion seems to be distance (which I relish) and cleanliness.

just a punk · 06-20-2020, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

This graph is all you need - if you WANT to understand it.

If you want to be ignorant, it won't help either

https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status...29270898716673
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/d...an%20Union~USA

PS: As you can see the US also had a couple extra weeks to prepare, something that was wasted by your ignoramous in charge

Hmm...

United States - 2 220 961 cases
EU - 2 268 266 cases

The stats are copied from here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geogra...019-ncov-cases

When you see "America" on the graph above, it lineally means America - two big continents. So how the EU was better prepared than the USA?

The Porn Nerd · 06-21-2020, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

No mask, no delivery. You're a man that goes to the wall for his ideas and that is commendable (and I don't think it will hurt anyone).

I'm flatered! Just PM a picture of one of your pies and I will feast on it with my eyes.

I'm nobody's advocate but I think we should avoid binary thinking when it comes to this sort-of grey area which is so-far this virus. I still see people lowering their face masks to smoke, to liberally prickle their many facial orifices, eat, drink and so on . . . so the only key to avoid contagion seems to be distance (which I relish) and cleanliness.

Yes it requires masks but also social distancing, washing your hands, being careful around others, etc.

I'm just saying if a mask helps even a little I'm down for that.

Dead · 06-21-2020, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Already happened many times throughout my life. There are no guarantees in life: except that we will all die one day...

I too believe this whole thing is nonsense....

MaDalton · 06-21-2020, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

So how the EU was better prepared than the USA?

where did I say that?

I said that the US WOULD have had some extra weeks to prepare

RandyRandy · 06-21-2020, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Only little minds use false analogies and equivalencies. There are not 1.5 million people dying of TB in the US (thank God) and I am certain that where TB is a problem those fighting it wish people would wear masks. Besides, we do not know how many covid-19 will kill in a year because we are only months into this pandemic.

There are treatments for TB etc. Not so much for covid-19 and apparently the RT (Rate of Transmission) is way higher with coronavirus. Just because people get cancer, other illnesses, other diseases does NOT mean we should all be fucking idiots and do nothing to prevent that which we can prevent. Again, for others even more so than for ourselves.

But why try to educate someone who is so selfish, prickish and anti-social? I'm just glad you identified yourself as part of the problem and not the solution.

So sorry to disappoint you.

RandyRandy · 06-21-2020, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

I too believe this whole thing is nonsense....

Great video!

A lot of the stuff out there doesn't add up for me. I took the anti-body test 2 weeks ago and I was positive. The only time I had "flu-like" symptoms was in early February - and it was pretty bad for a couple of days. Just after that my wife had a dry-cough for three weeks.

Our thinking is maybe we got it here:

Was Sundance a "First Petri Dish" of Coronavirus in the States?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fe...states-1293378

But who knows???

Such a weird situation with protests/riots in NYC and no mention of social distancing and masks/gloves (gloves!!! Not that Covid-19 is transferable from surfaces!!!) and everyone getting a pass. And BTW NO SPIKE WHATSOEVER BECAUSE OF THE PROTESTS!!!

Masks are obligatory in the NYC Subway - so I put on a mask. But outside??? No way, Jose! Stay 6ft away from me if you have any doubts, but no mask for me outside.

I've done two things to do "my part" in this thing. I've donated plasma, which is in very high demand once you have Anti-body certification, and I signed up for Contact Tracing thru Citizen.

Some people get on their soapbox and launch virtue-signaling nuclear strikes at those who would dare to have a different opinion - and that's what works for them.

In the meantime, there's a lot of us doing our thing, moving forward. Shit's about to get real in NYC once the $600 a week PUA runs out July 31. That's when we'll move really start feeling the economic devastation caused by the "measured governmental response".

You guys do realize there's an economic aspect to this equation, right?

Good luck to all and see you on the other side...

Robbie · 06-21-2020, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

So apparently the 1% who die from this couldn't possibly be your mother or father or grandfather or uncle or aunt or grandmother or neighbor or anyone else you may care about over a certain age. Such a wonderful caring human being you are!

1 percent don't die from this. More like 6/10th of a percent.

Also...the deaths themselves...75% of ALL deaths from Covid19 are people with underlying conditions.

73.6% of all deaths from Covid19 are people who are 65 years of age and older (mostly older)

Only 0.7% of all Covid19 deaths are from people who doctors are certain have no underlying conditions.

All data and all science says that people under 65 years old without health problems are far less affected by this than the flu.
That's just science.

I know the media isn't reporting this. But it's fact.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

In other words...stay away from older people (they should stay isolated). Nursing homes should be a top priority. And if you have a health condition it is also up to you to stay isolated.

The rest of us??? Nope. We're gonna be fine. Just stay away from old and unhealthy people if THEY are too stupid to stay isolated.

ruff · 06-21-2020, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

The rest of us??? Nope. We're gonna be fine. Just stay away from old and unhealthy people if THEY are too stupid to stay isolated.

Famous last words.

It's more about the response to this pandemic. We wouldn't have had this many deaths with a proper timely response.

There will be other pandemics, count on it. The percentage of deaths is only meaningful to the dead and the people those deaths affect. There is no simplistic explanation of how this virus reacts with people. There are many instances of young healthy middle aged men and women that have died from the virus. Imagine their surprise to wake up dead.
Our own government has tried its best to muzzle science and obstruct testing. There are no excuses for the way this has been managed. This country is just about even with smart and stupid people. Pick a side and keep your fingers crossed. If it's your turn, you will die alone.

sonofsam · 06-21-2020, 07:26 PM

Leave it to Americans to turn wearing a mask into a political thing. Don't worry the CDC is 't coming to take your freedom and Bill Gates isn't trying to microchip everyone for the illuminati. You wear a mask to protect others who are at risk such as the elderly and people without healthy immune systems. I'm young (relatively) and at very low risk of complications from covid, and I think I already had it when I was in Asia months back.. but I still wear a mask anywhere I go. We have barely any cases here now because people took it seriously and we were successful in flattening the curve.. we have like 10 new cases a day and basically all of the new cases are in long term care facilities and not community spread. I wore a mask anytime I went anywhere, including gloves and hand sanitizer.. not because I'm scared of corona but because I don't want to be the guy who was too cool to wear a mask, and gave it to some 80 year old who was grocery shopping because he didnt have kids or help to do the shopping for them.

People not wearing a mask in places with outbreaks are complete trash. Listen to the health officials who have dedicated their lives to learning about infectious diseases, and not some loser sitting in his moms basement who somehow discovered a global conspiracy in between the sessions of spilling mountain dew on himself and masturbating with hot cheeto crumbs all over his fat hands.

Idiots

Look Chang · 06-21-2020, 08:04 PM

BTW, don't forget to also protect your dog ...

slapass · 06-21-2020, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Not at all "rooting" for death. Just being pragmatic...and even-handed. Why don't we "pause" the world and mandate masks for TB? It's transmitted airborne, human-to-human. Kills 1.5 million people every year, way more than this "pandemic" will...

Don't those 1.5 million people count? Why shouldn't we do everything possible to eradicate TB, whatever the cost?

If you honestly feel my thinking is "disgusting" and I'm thinking like a dictator, etc. all good. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not...

It is not a developed world issue that is why we don’t worry about it.

slapass · 06-21-2020, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

1 percent don't die from this. More like 6/10th of a percent.

Also...the deaths themselves...75% of ALL deaths from Covid19 are people with underlying conditions.

73.6% of all deaths from Covid19 are people who are 65 years of age and older (mostly older)

Only 0.7% of all Covid19 deaths are from people who doctors are certain have no underlying conditions.

All data and all science says that people under 65 years old without health problems are far less affected by this than the flu.
That's just science.

I know the media isn't reporting this. But it's fact.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

In other words...stay away from older people (they should stay isolated). Nursing homes should be a top priority. And if you have a health condition it is also up to you to stay isolated.

The rest of us??? Nope. We're gonna be fine. Just stay away from old and unhealthy people if THEY are too stupid to stay isolated.

I agree with this. These are the numbers I have also seen. It is low risk to healthy and young people.

Side note. I did lose all sense of taste and I am 54 so that is a bit of a bummer.

mopek1 · 06-22-2020, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover.

We can reopen the country whenever we want. Slowing the spread isn't a requirement to doing that.

Spread, infection rate, cases and most data is pretty meaningless. If 99.99 % of those infected were asymptomatic then who cares about how many cases there are. It's hospitalizations and deaths that are most relevant since no country except Iceland has been able to consistently test properly.

mopek1 · 06-22-2020, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Well, a few things here: regardless of your views whether this is a serious situation or not wearing a mask is done FOR OTHERS, not for yourself. Have you been tested? Do you know 100% YOU do not have Covid-19? I doubt you did get tested. So guess what? YOU may be a carrier and not even know it! And even if you DID get tested some time ago you still may have caught it without wearing a mask and thus may be spreading it RIGHT NOW.

YES there are dangerous things in the world like you listed but most of those things (all?) will not have an end point where there is a vaccine and treatment coming. Again, wearing a mask is not forever. LOL

You didn't really address what I wrote.

mopek1 · 06-22-2020, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.

Of course it has become political, on both sides. Once that happens, calm, reasonable discourse doesn't happen anymore and it becomes a frenzy of my side against yours and nothing really happens at that point. Look at this thread for example.

Tasty1 · 06-22-2020, 04:26 AM

a big demonstration - Virus Madness, in The Hague in Holland yesterday was forbidden. So a lot of people showed up anyway. Only some Hooligans started fighting in the end. The rest of the day was a summer of love. They expected 50.000 people when it wouldn't be forbidden, famous DJ's would have shown up. All against new 1,5 meter society laws that could be in place, till there is a vaccin... Not much Corona in Holland, 3 weeks ago there where 14.000 ant racism protestors in Amsterdam, they didn't forbid that so they divide people. Demonstrating for something happened in USA is good, protest against Dutch government forbidden.

Düsseldorf Germany demonstration 1 week ago

slapass · 06-22-2020, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

We can reopen the country whenever we want. Slowing the spread isn't a requirement to doing that.

Spread, infection rate, cases and most data is pretty meaningless. If 99.99 % of those infected were asymptomatic then who cares about how many cases there are. It's hospitalizations and deaths that are most relevant since no country except Iceland has been able to consistently test properly.

A symptomatic is a very small group according to the WHO.

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06-19-2020, 11:31 AM	#58
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover. If the experts are all 100% wrong and the mask does nothing, all you are out is wearing a piece of cloth on your face for a few minutes while you are in a store or public place. It is literally the least a person can do to help the country (and world) recover. The fact that some people are passionately against it just blows my mind.

06-19-2020, 08:56 PM	#66
abshard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 6,303	Does pulling your tee shirt over you mouth and nose qualify as a mask? I know cloth masks made out of tee shirts are okay even though they don't provide much protection. But just pulling the shirt up over your face, is that acceptable? I seem to recall a video one someone getting kicked off of a bus because he only used his shirt over his face and the guy kicking off everyone had no mask on.

06-20-2020, 06:14 AM	#71
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 9,387	Used them indoors in supermarket when mandatory. Just went and didn't use them. Only when you buy liquour and gasoline you must keep it up. But i don't go out that much here in India, it is rainy season and almost everything closed now at the beach. It is quiet here on the streets in low season. On the streets outside the virus hardly spread and no mask needed. You saw that with crowded beaches and BLM protests. The people that are waiting for a safe vaccin can wait a longtime. I make sure i won't get one shot. I try to bribe a doctor if i need a covid vaccin passport. I don't trust the pharmacy and the governments with that. __________________ everything is fake

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06-21-2020, 07:26 PM	#92
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06-22-2020, 04:26 AM	#99
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 9,387	a big demonstration - Virus Madness, in The Hague in Holland yesterday was forbidden. So a lot of people showed up anyway. Only some Hooligans started fighting in the end. The rest of the day was a summer of love. They expected 50.000 people when it wouldn't be forbidden, famous DJ's would have shown up. All against new 1,5 meter society laws that could be in place, till there is a vaccin... Not much Corona in Holland, 3 weeks ago there where 14.000 ant racism protestors in Amsterdam, they didn't forbid that so they divide people. Demonstrating for something happened in USA is good, protest against Dutch government forbidden. Düsseldorf Germany demonstration 1 week ago __________________ everything is fake