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strange times ahead...
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While PornHub seems to be taking big steps toward compliance, I believe the "freeze" will probably not be restored anytime soon, maybe never. I doubt that Visa/MC would roll out a freeze industry wide - however its possible that sites using Visa/MC to access user generated content (UGC) could lose processing in the long run. |
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the woke left that screeches "sex work is real work" ?
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You guys do know this will be a trickle-down effect right? 2257 happened during the Bush administration they do things like this every 10 years or so to porn, but it was to regulate the dumb asses actually uploading the unlawful content. Porn hub tries to be compliant by making users show ID etc. but i guess that wasn't enough for visa/master card. but once things hit the press, the companies act fast to save face so they won't be blamed for things out of their control.next it will be onlyfans, we all know how some on these youngsters are getting behind their systems by, sharing accounts using fake IDs etc. all of you content owners are yelling yaaa!! but dont be too happy everyone will be effected by this.
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Visa/MC are legally obliged to refrain from processing in connection with illegal activity. They had no choice. So long as your site doesnt have illegal content, industry will be fine. However, sites that allow user generated content (ie tubes, forums) will likely face strict regulation in the near future. |
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If the tubes only posted Content Partner material or content they licensed/bought there would be no (or at least fewer) issues.
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I hope everything works out Dan. No one needs this stress. Be well brother.
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The other big issue is it going to really affect the models f Visa and Mastercard have banned all MindGeek and next ban the WebGroup (xVideos) sites this is a list of the production companies are apart of them: MG - Brazzers, Digital Playground, Mile High Media, Property Sex, Babes, Twistys, Reality Kings, Fake Hub, Metro, Deviant Hardcore, Squirted, etc plus the MyDirty, Clips4Sale and ModelHub platforms https://www.adultforce.com/client.html#/network/ Add in all the brands owned by WebGroup - Penthouse, Legal Porno, DDF, Girls Gone Wild, Private, Girlfriends Films, Bang Bros That is over half of the content that is shot in the US and Europe and models, since models will have no work these will affect every producer as they won't be able to make a living shooting porn and will not get in the industry.
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I’m hoping this is good for pay sites at least
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Remember that these sites process a fuck ton of $$$ with MC & Visa and money always wins out in the end. Clean up & delete any offending material and all those platforms should be good to go. It may take a month or two but I'm sure everyone is scrambling to comply.
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"Oh NoZ!! Visa & Master Card won't process for illegal content!! We'Re DoOmEd!! lEfTy LiBrUlZ fAuLt!!!"
-same dorks crying about netflix not long ago |
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Maybe content creators can start banking again.
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Content creators are the ones who are going to suffer - Model Hub, Clips 4 Sale, My Dirty Hobby, etc. are run by Mindgeek
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I doubt it, this will benefit the illegal tubes based in Russia that do not do any processing and will take the place of the tubes that were at least paying producers
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Mindgeek is more fortunate than we were when the cc companies dealt their first major blow to adult internet. Back then, there was no alternative. Now, it's only a question of whether the customers are dedicated enough to move onto a crypto payment mechanism. Once that shift happens (if it ever does) it will just be the cc companies that are hurt from their actions. There will undoubtedly be some serious first and second-order consequences for everyone in the adult biz in the short and medium-term from this event. Everyone in our industry is involved in the revenue stream from the Mindgeek ecosystem in some direct or indirect way. But things may work out so that in the longer term, our industry is stronger and more resilient and much less dependant on the establishment financial industry that has been weaponized against us for decades (just think about how hard it is to get a bank account in the USA as a sex-worker or industry company and you'll realize how deeply weaponized it has become). Anyway, maybe good long term, and may be a coming of age for crypto. (side-note, I bought more BTC when I heard the news). |
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My buddy who is an attorney and also in the biz long time thinks this will resolve itself. he's saying this is a tactic by Visa to ensure companies change their policing of videos policy by forcing them to hire mass teams of video watchers , only use verified uploads stuff like that.
I hope so as my porn career is over if I lose my tube cashflow. I will sell everything.
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Don’t you have your own pay sites as well?
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I believe as others have said... this will blow over eventually, and MindGeek be processing V / MC again soon enough. The CC companies are prisoners to regulators too. So everyone has to make flamboyant, public demonstrations showing their outrage - and how much they care - and how much they're doing to save face with the various political fire breathers.
The bigger (longer-lasting) issue is that companies with the reach and resources of MindGeek won't sit idly hoping, praying they get their CC accounts turned back on. Love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to continue. Porn wins. It will always find a suitable vehicle. RIP Betamax. I expect a variety of bold, industry-wide campaigns educating users about the relative ease, features, and privacy of crypto payments. Then all the countless cucks who are afraid to use a credit card... they can get in the game too. In the end, porn wins. RIP V/MC. |
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They can just move the model stuff and premium program etc to a separate website and apply for new merchant accounts
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This isnt the only attack on adult...
Here's a lawsuit that was filed in September that hasnt received any press by the same people who pushed Visa and MasterCard... they are will funded and arent attacking adult on just one front. They are hitting it from all sides... https://endsexualexploitation.org/ar...f-of-survivor/ Here's the complaint --> https://endsexualexploitation.org/wp...-Complaint.pdf And here's new legislation that is also being pushed by NCOSE... https://www.hawley.senate.gov/hawley...nography-sites Add in Biden's determination to kill off 230 and there's a perfect storm brewing... https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...tion-230.shtml |
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Let us hope it does not affect the rest of Mindgeek
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Yes of course I have paysites, but big picture this is very bad for all of us.
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Something just isn't adding up here... https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...iews-porn.html Anywho, if visa/mastercard cracking down on illegal content on the platforms that devastated this industry is the "librul" end of the world for you... that's probably a sign you need to get your shit together, Melissa. |
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But will this affect December's Premium payouts?
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Anyone who wants to get out now before shit really hits the fan please contact me. We are buying paysites, cam sites, content libraries.
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I am sure you will find some people willing to sell their catalog of content
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they could give up on processing adult today (like Amex) and it would barely make a dent in their stats. but without Visa/MC this industry would be dead.
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Define "tiny fraction". Online adult revenue, in total, is a billion dollar business and no corporation lets that level of revenue just POOF disappear.
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https://www.paymentscardsandmobile.c...6-infographic/ 20 trillion global yearly card volume for the total adult industry you can find numbers like 10-15 billion/year - let's say 15 billion that's 0,075% if my math isn't off...
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What you have includes my health insurance payments, utility bills, grocery bills, etc... But then look at dining out vs porn (not including fast food). Look at going to the movies vs porn. Home mortgages are a massive business. But not up against the entire monthly spend.
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and i am pretty sure the connected fraud is way higher than 0.075% of all fraud cases what i want to say: we should treat them nice if we want to keep them, not like previously suggested count on them to change their minds cause they'd be afraid to lose us as customers
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Visa's total revenue is 20 billion. Total adult is estimated to be around 20 billion a year. So if visa got all of that (they obviously don't) they'd make $400,000,000 off adult. A lot of money but a small percentage to their total revenue. |
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