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Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cordoba

Because this is the thin end of the wedge. They picked on the industry leader because it's kind of decapitating the adult industry. Hilarious, or maybe tragic, seeing so many porn webmasters gloating over their demise. If they can take down Pornhub, they can take down the entire industry. That's certainly their aim.

This is exactly what I am afraid of

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/b...k-pornhub.html

xanadu · 12-10-2020, 02:35 PM

strange times ahead...

3rdshiftvideo · 12-10-2020, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Could be. Could be bad for tubes and file lockers and only fans type stuff. Could be bad for everything

Remember, the problem in this case was that legit sex crimes where being uploaded by PornHub users. Most billers such as Epoch do routine audits of site content I expect this to increase, perhaps better enforcement of 2257/documentation.

While PornHub seems to be taking big steps toward compliance, I believe the "freeze" will probably not be restored anytime soon, maybe never. I doubt that Visa/MC would roll out a freeze industry wide - however its possible that sites using Visa/MC to access user generated content (UGC) could lose processing in the long run.

jigg · 12-10-2020, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils

Honestly it's amazing that it went on for as long as it had.

As the press is very connected with the woke left these days there could be a very intense witch hunt precipitated by this.

the woke left that screeches "sex work is real work" ?

awwhoez · 12-10-2020, 04:01 PM

You guys do know this will be a trickle-down effect right? 2257 happened during the Bush administration they do things like this every 10 years or so to porn, but it was to regulate the dumb asses actually uploading the unlawful content. Porn hub tries to be compliant by making users show ID etc. but i guess that wasn't enough for visa/master card. but once things hit the press, the companies act fast to save face so they won't be blamed for things out of their control.next it will be onlyfans, we all know how some on these youngsters are getting behind their systems by, sharing accounts using fake IDs etc. all of you content owners are yelling yaaa!! but dont be too happy everyone will be effected by this.

Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by awwhoez

You guys do know this will be a trickle-down effect right? 2257 happened during the Bush administration they do things like this every 10 years or so to porn, but it was to regulate the dumb asses actually uploading the unlawful content. Porn hub tries to be compliant by making users show ID etc. but i guess that wasn't enough for visa/master card. but once things hit the press, the companies act fast to save face so they won't be blamed for things out of their control.next it will be onlyfans, we all know how some on these youngsters are getting behind their systems by, sharing accounts using fake IDs etc. all of you content owners are yelling yaaa!! but dont be too happy everyone will be effected by this.

I have produced and own over 5,000 scenes and this may be the worst day ever for the adult industry

3rdshiftvideo · 12-10-2020, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

I have produced and own over 5,000 scenes and this may be the worst day ever for the adult industry

I wouldn't worry too much right now.

Visa/MC are legally obliged to refrain from processing in connection with illegal activity. They had no choice. So long as your site doesnt have illegal content, industry will be fine. However, sites that allow user generated content (ie tubes, forums) will likely face strict regulation in the near future.

The Porn Nerd · 12-10-2020, 05:51 PM

If the tubes only posted Content Partner material or content they licensed/bought there would be no (or at least fewer) issues.

Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rdshiftvideo

I wouldn't worry too much right now.

Visa/MC are legally obliged to refrain from processing in connection with illegal activity. They had no choice. So long as your site doesnt have illegal content, industry will be fine. However, sites that allow user generated content (ie tubes, forums) will likely face strict regulation in the near future.

Like most producers, I make good money from the premium tube sites and if they are unable to bill we will take a big loss financially

OneHungLo · 12-10-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Yup & people were worried about trump.

I've been saying this for years. The left is far more dangerous to porn and free speech than the Bush administration or Republicans ever were.

Major (Tom) · 12-10-2020, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Like most producers, I make good money from the premium tube sites and if they are unable to bill we will take a big loss financially

I hope everything works out Dan. No one needs this stress. Be well brother.

Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I hope everything works out Dan. No one needs this stress. Be well brother.

Thanks, I hope they find some way to alternative billing methods, but the prospects don't look good.

The other big issue is it going to really affect the models

f Visa and Mastercard have banned all MindGeek and next ban the WebGroup (xVideos) sites this is a list of the production companies are apart of them:

MG - Brazzers, Digital Playground, Mile High Media, Property Sex, Babes, Twistys, Reality Kings, Fake Hub, Metro, Deviant Hardcore, Squirted, etc plus the MyDirty, Clips4Sale and ModelHub platforms

https://www.adultforce.com/client.html#/network/

Add in all the brands owned by WebGroup - Penthouse, Legal Porno, DDF, Girls Gone Wild, Private, Girlfriends Films, Bang Bros

That is over half of the content that is shot in the US and Europe and models, since models will have no work these will affect every producer as they won't be able to make a living shooting porn and will not get in the industry.

Major (Tom) · 12-10-2020, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Thanks, I hope they find some way to alternative billing methods, but the prospects don't look good.

The other big issue is it going to really affect the models

f Visa and Mastercard have banned all MindGeek and next ban the WebGroup (xVideos) sites this is a list of the production companies are apart of them:

MG - Brazzers, Digital Playground, Mile High Media, Property Sex, Babes, Twistys, Reality Kings, Fake Hub, Metro, Deviant Hardcore, Squirted, etc plus the MyDirty, Clips4Sale and ModelHub platforms

https://www.adultforce.com/client.html#/network/

Add in all the brands owned by WebGroup - Penthouse, Legal Porno, DDF, Girls Gone Wild, Private, Girlfriends Films, Bang Bros

That is over half of the content that is shot in the US and Europe and models, since models will have no work these will affect every producer as they won't be able to make a living shooting porn and will not get in the industry.

I’m hoping this is good for pay sites at least

The Porn Nerd · 12-10-2020, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Thanks, I hope they find some way to alternative billing methods, but the prospects don't look good.

The other big issue is it going to really affect the models

f Visa and Mastercard have banned all MindGeek and next ban the WebGroup (xVideos) sites this is a list of the production companies are apart of them:

MG - Brazzers, Digital Playground, Mile High Media, Property Sex, Babes, Twistys, Reality Kings, Fake Hub, Metro, Deviant Hardcore, Squirted, etc plus the MyDirty, Clips4Sale and ModelHub platforms

https://www.adultforce.com/client.html#/network/

Add in all the brands owned by WebGroup - Penthouse, Legal Porno, DDF, Girls Gone Wild, Private, Girlfriends Films, Bang Bros

That is over half of the content that is shot in the US and Europe and models, since models will have no work these will affect every producer as they won't be able to make a living shooting porn and will not get in the industry.

This doom scenario may not happen Dan.
Remember that these sites process a fuck ton of $$$ with MC & Visa and money always wins out in the end.

Clean up & delete any offending material and all those platforms should be good to go. It may take a month or two but I'm sure everyone is scrambling to comply.

King Mark · 12-10-2020, 06:56 PM

"Oh NoZ!! Visa & Master Card won't process for illegal content!! We'Re DoOmEd!! lEfTy LiBrUlZ fAuLt!!!"

-same dorks crying about netflix not long ago

Phoenix · 12-10-2020, 07:03 PM

Maybe content creators can start banking again.

Brian mike · 12-10-2020, 07:06 PM

YOUR CONTENT & YOUR FANS = $ -> IsMyGirl - InkedGirl - IsMyGuy

Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Maybe content creators can start banking again.

Content creators are the ones who are going to suffer - Model Hub, Clips 4 Sale, My Dirty Hobby, etc. are run by Mindgeek

Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I’m hoping this is good for pay sites at least

I doubt it, this will benefit the illegal tubes based in Russia that do not do any processing and will take the place of the tubes that were at least paying producers

Porno Dan · 12-10-2020, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

This doom scenario may not happen Dan.
Remember that these sites process a fuck ton of $$$ with MC & Visa and money always wins out in the end.

Clean up & delete any offending material and all those platforms should be good to go. It may take a month or two but I'm sure everyone is scrambling to comply.

I hope you are right, but Visa and Mastercard did not say this was temporary

Idigmygirls · 12-10-2020, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Thanks, I hope they find some way to alternative billing methods, but the prospects don't look good.

This may be the threshold moment where crypto becomes a "mainstream" payment method.

Mindgeek is more fortunate than we were when the cc companies dealt their first major blow to adult internet. Back then, there was no alternative. Now, it's only a question of whether the customers are dedicated enough to move onto a crypto payment mechanism.

Once that shift happens (if it ever does) it will just be the cc companies that are hurt from their actions.

There will undoubtedly be some serious first and second-order consequences for everyone in the adult biz in the short and medium-term from this event. Everyone in our industry is involved in the revenue stream from the Mindgeek ecosystem in some direct or indirect way. But things may work out so that in the longer term, our industry is stronger and more resilient and much less dependant on the establishment financial industry that has been weaponized against us for decades (just think about how hard it is to get a bank account in the USA as a sex-worker or industry company and you'll realize how deeply weaponized it has become).

Anyway, maybe good long term, and may be a coming of age for crypto. (side-note, I bought more BTC when I heard the news).

blackmonsters · 12-10-2020, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils

Honestly it's amazing that it went on for as long as it had.

As the press is very connected with the woke left these days there could be a very intense witch hunt precipitated by this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Yup & people were worried about trump.

You two act like "the left" started all that 2257 bullshit and convicted Tommy Chong for selling a bong.

Maybe Trump will pardon Chong :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...selling-bongs/

amacontent · 12-10-2020, 08:02 PM

My buddy who is an attorney and also in the biz long time thinks this will resolve itself. he's saying this is a tactic by Visa to ensure companies change their policing of videos policy by forcing them to hire mass teams of video watchers , only use verified uploads stuff like that.
I hope so as my porn career is over if I lose my tube cashflow. I will sell everything.

ZENRA · 12-10-2020, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

This doom scenario may not happen Dan.
Remember that these sites process a fuck ton of $$$ with MC & Visa and money always wins out in the end.

Clean up & delete any offending material and all those platforms should be good to go. It may take a month or two but I'm sure everyone is scrambling to comply.

Agreed. There's a lot of 'sky is falling' talk, but this here's the most likely outcome.

Major (Tom) · 12-10-2020, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

You two act like "the left" started all that 2257 bullshit and convicted Tommy Chong for selling a bong.

Maybe Trump will pardon Chong :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...selling-bongs/

The right uses due process. The left kicks & screams. But this is about videos depicting actual underage girls. There is no debate. That’s that. They dun goofed.

KrisKross · 12-10-2020, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Thanks, I hope they find some way to alternative billing methods, but the prospects don't look good.

The other big issue is it going to really affect the models

f Visa and Mastercard have banned all MindGeek and next ban the WebGroup (xVideos) sites this is a list of the production companies are apart of them:

MG - Brazzers, Digital Playground, Mile High Media, Property Sex, Babes, Twistys, Reality Kings, Fake Hub, Metro, Deviant Hardcore, Squirted, etc plus the MyDirty, Clips4Sale and ModelHub platforms

https://www.adultforce.com/client.html#/network/

Add in all the brands owned by WebGroup - Penthouse, Legal Porno, DDF, Girls Gone Wild, Private, Girlfriends Films, Bang Bros

That is over half of the content that is shot in the US and Europe and models, since models will have no work these will affect every producer as they won't be able to make a living shooting porn and will not get in the industry.

According to Gizmodo, the Mastercard ban strictly impacts Pornhub and not MindGeek's paysites.

https://gizmodo.com/mastercard-dumps-pornhub-1845853437

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In an email, Mastercard told Gizmodo that the change will only apply to Pornhub and not other Mindgeek sites.

Due · 12-10-2020, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Like most producers, I make good money from the premium tube sites and if they are unable to bill we will take a big loss financially

Hey Dan,
Don’t you have your own pay sites as well?

XSAXS · 12-11-2020, 12:52 AM

I believe as others have said... this will blow over eventually, and MindGeek be processing V / MC again soon enough. The CC companies are prisoners to regulators too. So everyone has to make flamboyant, public demonstrations showing their outrage - and how much they care - and how much they're doing to save face with the various political fire breathers.

The bigger (longer-lasting) issue is that companies with the reach and resources of MindGeek won't sit idly hoping, praying they get their CC accounts turned back on. Love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to continue.

Porn wins. It will always find a suitable vehicle. RIP Betamax.

I expect a variety of bold, industry-wide campaigns educating users about the relative ease, features, and privacy of crypto payments. Then all the countless cucks who are afraid to use a credit card... they can get in the game too.

In the end, porn wins.

RIP V/MC.

Konda · 12-11-2020, 12:53 AM

They can just move the model stuff and premium program etc to a separate website and apply for new merchant accounts

bean-aid · 12-11-2020, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

"Credit card company Visa is looking into allegations that Montreal-owned company PornHub posted pornographic videos featuring children or rape"

"Mastercard Inc said on Sunday it was investigating allegations against Pornhub.com following a newspaper column which said many videos posted on the adult website depicted child abuse."

Why are rightards trying to politicize this?

This was a direct result of left agenda. I bet your income will be directly affected. As soon as MSM got wind sleepy was going to be prez all went ninja on their agendas. You got snookered!

pornlaw · 12-11-2020, 04:21 AM

This isnt the only attack on adult...

Here's a lawsuit that was filed in September that hasnt received any press by the same people who pushed Visa and MasterCard... they are will funded and arent attacking adult on just one front. They are hitting it from all sides...

https://endsexualexploitation.org/ar...f-of-survivor/

Here's the complaint --> https://endsexualexploitation.org/wp...-Complaint.pdf

And here's new legislation that is also being pushed by NCOSE...

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/hawley...nography-sites

Add in Biden's determination to kill off 230 and there's a perfect storm brewing...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...tion-230.shtml

King Mark · 12-11-2020, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner

This was a direct result of left agenda. I bet your income will be directly affected. As soon as MSM got wind sleepy was going to be prez all went ninja on their agendas. You got snookered!

OK Melissa...

See sig!

Porno Dan · 12-11-2020, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

According to Gizmodo, the Mastercard ban strictly impacts Pornhub and not MindGeek's paysites.

https://gizmodo.com/mastercard-dumps-pornhub-1845853437

Let us hope it does not affect the rest of Mindgeek

Porno Dan · 12-11-2020, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Due

Hey Dan,
Don’t you have your own pay sites as well?

Yes of course I have paysites, but big picture this is very bad for all of us.

el_mago · 12-11-2020, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by XSAXS

I believe as others have said... this will blow over eventually, and MindGeek be processing V / MC again soon enough. The CC companies are prisoners to regulators too. So everyone has to make flamboyant, public demonstrations showing their outrage - and how much they care - and how much they're doing to save face with the various political fire breathers.

The bigger (longer-lasting) issue is that companies with the reach and resources of MindGeek won't sit idly hoping, praying they get their CC accounts turned back on. Love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to continue.

Porn wins. It will always find a suitable vehicle. RIP Betamax.

I expect a variety of bold, industry-wide campaigns educating users about the relative ease, features, and privacy of crypto payments. Then all the countless cucks who are afraid to use a credit card... they can get in the game too.

In the end, porn wins.

RIP V/MC.

Diomed · 12-11-2020, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

This was a direct result of left agenda. I bet your income will be directly affected. As soon as MSM got wind sleepy was going to be prez all went ninja on their agendas. You got snookered!

We waz kangz is not to be taken seriously. He does zero business in this industry and is utterly clueless on 99% of the topics that dribble out from his dicksucker.. sadly self awareness isn't "these peoples" strong point.

Only crawls out of his hole in a desperate attempt to self affirm and try to feel like he's "one of the boys"

King Mark · 12-11-2020, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Diomed

I still make good money in adult.. I think I will be leaving it in the new year.

https://m.gfy.com/22739770-post1.html

Something just isn't adding up here...

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...iews-porn.html

Anywho, if visa/mastercard cracking down on illegal content on the platforms that devastated this industry is the "librul" end of the world for you... that's probably a sign you need to get your shit together, Melissa.

The Porn Nerd · 12-11-2020, 10:10 AM

But will this affect December's Premium payouts?

Roald · 12-11-2020, 10:43 AM

Anyone who wants to get out now before shit really hits the fan please contact me. We are buying paysites, cam sites, content libraries.

[email protected]

Major (Tom) · 12-11-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Anyone who wants to get out now before shit really hits the fan please contact me. We are buying paysites, cam sites, content libraries.

[email protected]

Lol veiled optimism

Porno Dan · 12-11-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Anyone who wants to get out now before shit really hits the fan please contact me. We are buying paysites, cam sites, content libraries.

[email protected]

Bump for you guys

I am sure you will find some people willing to sell their catalog of content

MaDalton · 12-11-2020, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS

I believe as others have said... this will blow over eventually, and MindGeek be processing V / MC again soon enough. The CC companies are prisoners to regulators too. So everyone has to make flamboyant, public demonstrations showing their outrage - and how much they care - and how much they're doing to save face with the various political fire breathers.

The bigger (longer-lasting) issue is that companies with the reach and resources of MindGeek won't sit idly hoping, praying they get their CC accounts turned back on. Love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to continue.

Porn wins. It will always find a suitable vehicle. RIP Betamax.

I expect a variety of bold, industry-wide campaigns educating users about the relative ease, features, and privacy of crypto payments. Then all the countless cucks who are afraid to use a credit card... they can get in the game too.

In the end, porn wins.

RIP V/MC.

the only problem with what you say: adult is a tiny fraction of the total Visa/MC transaction volume.

they could give up on processing adult today (like Amex) and it would barely make a dent in their stats.

but without Visa/MC this industry would be dead.

The Porn Nerd · 12-11-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the only problem with what you say: adult is a tiny fraction of the total Visa/MC transaction volume.

they could give up on processing adult today (like Amex) and it would barely make a dent in their stats.

but without Visa/MC this industry would be dead.

Define "tiny fraction". Online adult revenue, in total, is a billion dollar business and no corporation lets that level of revenue just POOF disappear.

MaDalton · 12-11-2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Define "tiny fraction". Online adult revenue, in total, is a billion dollar business and no corporation lets that level of revenue just POOF disappear.

from 2016
https://www.paymentscardsandmobile.c...6-infographic/

20 trillion global yearly card volume

for the total adult industry you can find numbers like 10-15 billion/year - let's say 15 billion

that's 0,075% if my math isn't off...

PornDiscounts-V · 12-11-2020, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

from 2016
https://www.paymentscardsandmobile.c...6-infographic/

20 trillion global yearly card volume

for the total adult industry you can find numbers like 10-15 billion/year - let's say 15 billion

that's 0,075% if my math isn't off...

True... But then talk about discretionary spending...
What you have includes my health insurance payments, utility bills, grocery bills, etc...
But then look at dining out vs porn (not including fast food).
Look at going to the movies vs porn.

Home mortgages are a massive business. But not up against the entire monthly spend.

MaDalton · 12-11-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

True... But then talk about discretionary spending...
What you have includes my health insurance payments, utility bills, grocery bills, etc...
But then look at dining out vs porn (not including fast food).
Look at going to the movies vs porn.

Home mortgages are a massive business. But not up against the entire monthly spend.

but all the other stuff would still be there if they got rid of the 0.075% porn.

and i am pretty sure the connected fraud is way higher than 0.075% of all fraud cases

what i want to say: we should treat them nice if we want to keep them, not like previously suggested count on them to change their minds cause they'd be afraid to lose us as customers

Roald · 12-11-2020, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

what i want to say: we should treat them nice if we want to keep them, not like previously suggested count on them to change their minds cause they'd be afraid to lose us as customers

This.

...

OneHungLo · 12-11-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Define "tiny fraction". Online adult revenue, in total, is a billion dollar business and no corporation lets that level of revenue just POOF disappear.

Visa makes money on each purchase. Typically 2-3%

Visa's total revenue is 20 billion.

Total adult is estimated to be around 20 billion a year.

So if visa got all of that (they obviously don't) they'd make $400,000,000 off adult. A lot of money but a small percentage to their total revenue.

Porno Dan · 12-11-2020, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

but all the other stuff would still be there if they got rid of the 0.075% porn.

and i am pretty sure the connected fraud is way higher than 0.075% of all fraud cases

what i want to say: we should treat them nice if we want to keep them, not like previously suggested count on them to change their minds cause they'd be afraid to lose us as customers

This exactly what I have been telling people all day, VISA chooses with whom they do business and yes it is privilege to do business with them

InfoGuy · 12-11-2020, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

I hope you are right, but Visa and Mastercard did not say this was temporary

Twitter 12:32 PM · Dec 10, 2020

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Given the allegations of illegal activity, Visa is suspending Pornhub’s acceptance privileges pending the completion of our ongoing investigation. We are instructing the financial institutions who serve MindGeek to suspend processing of payments through the Visa network.

Twitter 12:33 PM · Dec 10, 2020

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At Visa, we are vigilant in our efforts to stamp out illegal activity on our network, and we encourage our financial institution partners to regularly review their merchants’ compliance of our standards on this and other platforms.

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12-11-2020, 12:52 AM	#78
XSAXS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 651	I believe as others have said... this will blow over eventually, and MindGeek be processing V / MC again soon enough. The CC companies are prisoners to regulators too. So everyone has to make flamboyant, public demonstrations showing their outrage - and how much they care - and how much they're doing to save face with the various political fire breathers. The bigger (longer-lasting) issue is that companies with the reach and resources of MindGeek won't sit idly hoping, praying they get their CC accounts turned back on. Love 'em or hate 'em, they'll find a way to continue. Porn wins. It will always find a suitable vehicle. RIP Betamax. I expect a variety of bold, industry-wide campaigns educating users about the relative ease, features, and privacy of crypto payments. Then all the countless cucks who are afraid to use a credit card... they can get in the game too. In the end, porn wins. RIP V/MC.

12-11-2020, 12:53 AM	#79
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	They can just move the model stuff and premium program etc to a separate website and apply for new merchant accounts

12-11-2020, 10:10 AM	#88
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12-11-2020, 10:43 AM	#89
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