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Old 07-27-2025, 03:07 AM   #51
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Old 07-27-2025, 03:27 AM   #52
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Compare with gamers who are up in arms in their millions against the decision by itch.io and Steam to drop adult games.
Context:

https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content

2nd element of context: they seem to be pro-life

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-indus...er-from-there/

So I think the left is not to be blamed for this one.
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Old 07-27-2025, 04:54 AM   #53
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There are thousands of free horse tubes on the internet. Those were illegal even before AV. They still exist.
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Old 07-27-2025, 04:59 AM   #54
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It's hardly small when over a billion people visit pornsites daily.


And with those kinds of numbers, and a plan of action:

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Have you considered what kind of power that is to wield?

If you put even a little of your mojo to direct your marks to raise hell about these AV laws, 4 Chan would tip their hats to you.
This could be something worth looking into. I'm game and have some ideas. I think figuring out the money spot (hit them where it matters) def needs to be part of the equation.
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(Asorelli, it's not that I necessarily disagrees with you, but you are very recent. So what are you trying to do ?)
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Let's be honest. The whole "Click here if you are 18" idea is something we in the adult industry have got away with for way too long. It is of course, a complete joke that never did anything to stop minors from accessing adult content.

The new age verification requrements present 2 main issues: A technology challenge (my favourite), and a sales challenge.

The technology: How can you detect where a user is coming from? How can you then verify his age legally, while simultaneoulsy protecting his privacy? The sales challenge: How do you keep the customer on your site when faced with the age verification requirement? How do you keep him from leaving?

First, you can at least relax in knowing that the technology is already here. We have one. Yoti is another excellent one.

As for SELLING it, that is completely up to you. Be creative and experiment. Even A/B-test it like you should already be doing with membership signups. Challenges are good. Pour another coffee and get to work.
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It's hardly small when over a billion people visit pornsites daily.
Not even one of those billion people is going to stand up to support porn.
Get a fucking grip.

That's a billion hypocrites. Not a single one of them would even admit that they jack off.

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Let's be honest. The whole "Click here if you are 18" idea is something we in the adult industry have got away with for way too long. It is of course, a complete joke that never did anything to stop minors from accessing adult content.

The new age verification requrements present 2 main issues: A technology challenge (my favourite), and a sales challenge.

The technology: How can you detect where a user is coming from? How can you then verify his age legally, while simultaneoulsy protecting his privacy? The sales challenge: How do you keep the customer on your site when faced with the age verification requirement? How do you keep him from leaving?

First, you can at least relax in knowing that the technology is already here. We have one. Yoti is another excellent one.

As for SELLING it, that is completely up to you. Be creative and experiment. Even A/B-test it like you should already be doing with membership signups. Challenges are good. Pour another coffee and get to work.
The problem is that in some states even going to non nude doesn't stop issues if they want to be assholes. And the cost to verify is far too high to support most current models. More consolidation to come.
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Not even one of those billion people is going to stand up to support porn.
Get a fucking grip.

That's a billion hypocrites. Not a single one of them would even admit that they jack off.

There are many ways to have someone support porn without having to admit they support porn. It's more about trying to be creative about things.
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Geezus, what in the actual fuck?! Wonder if anyone has been able to find these sacred plans of theirs?
This is not meant to sound rude, but where have you been the past couple of years? The "sacred plan" was provided to everyone transparently, and people just said: "it'll never happen/it's not real!"

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This is not meant to sound rude, but where have you been the past couple of years? The "sacred plan" was provided to everyone transparently, and people just said: "it'll never happen/it's not real!"

https://www.project2025.observer/
I don't follow every bit of news, and absolutely stay away from politics, sorry to disappoint. Now how about you answer some questions that I asked, instead of the typical hit and run, and "get a plug" for your software that I see you like to do.

Do you see me selling anything or trying to pitch an agenda? For fucks sake, relax.
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I don't follow every bit of news, and absolutely stay away from politics, sorry to disappoint. Now how about you answer some questions that I asked, instead of the typical hit and run, and "get a plug" for your software that I see you like to do.

Do you see me selling anything or trying to pitch an agenda? For fucks sake, relax.
Still demanding people answer every asinine question you come up with I see.
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The problem is that in some states even going to non nude doesn't stop issues if they want to be assholes. And the cost to verify is far too high to support most current models..
Yeah, there's this and a whole lot more, which I won't bother to explain.
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Still demanding people answer every asinine question you come up with I see.
Bro, I showed you the receipts, and you still be like "I didn't cost that much". What are you doing in this thread anyway? Did you get stuck trying to install a wordpress plugin on your non-worpress site?
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Bro, I showed you the receipts, and you still be like "I didn't cost that much". What are you doing in this thread anyway? Did you get stuck trying to install a wordpress plugin on your non-worpress site?
Proof of mental retardation, in the literal sense.
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Proof of mental retardation, in the literal sense.
Anyone with half a brain can go to the two posts and determine who is a bit "mentally challenged". The first one is linked in your sig and the second one is -- oh, look a biz thread that "I supposedly ruined" that has no more comments after your angel signing. Seriously man, I don't mind you posting in "my thread" (I see others have used that reference, so why not) but keep it productive please. Thanks
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Who's fake nic? Seems Canadian.
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Age verification laws and their potential impact on freedom of speech can bleed out elsewhere, and with recent developments, particularly the Supreme Court's decision in Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton, I thought I would join in on the debate. If you think it's just discussed here, go check the interwebs, the ruling has sparked considerable debate about their implications for freedom of speech on many other online platforms. While the specific ruling applies to age verification for online content "obscene to minors", its potential impact on broader freedom of speech issues is a significant concern. Seeing that these new laws stemmed from the adult community, no better place to have a discussion about it. One would think at least ...
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Who's fake nic? Seems Canadian.
Who is the dumbest person you know?

I mean they are actually brain damaged.
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This is not meant to sound rude
I don't know the exact quote, but aren't you the same dude that said the govt should be responsible for handling the id verifications. Seriously, for reals?

If you're more concerned with attacking and/or trying to diminish my character, then the issue itself, then there is a bigger problem, no doubt. And if you want to have the arrogant approach that "oh, we've done this and we've done that, the best this and the best that, and where have you been?!" then again, bigger problems at hand.
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Anyone with half a brain can go to the two posts and determine who is a bit "mentally challenged". The first one is linked in your sig and the second one is -- oh, look a biz thread that "I supposedly ruined" that has no more comments after your angel signing. Seriously man, I don't mind you posting in "my thread" (I see others have used that reference, so why not) but keep it productive please. Thanks
I ran one through my dumbass.ai for you, do I really have to do the second one?

🔹 Initial Misunderstanding (Post #6)
asorelli responded with:
"why don't you just create the layout using AI? Then utilize the API..."
This assumed mainstreammix was asking how to create a layout or integrate feeds.
But in reality, the original post had already shown a layout and was clearly asking:
  • []What free or paid tools are there?
    []Are there CPA networks with lots of promo material?
There was no request for layout advice or help with API integration.
asorelli answered a question that wasn’t asked.

🔹 Ignoring the Clarification (Posts #7–8)
When mainstreammix clarified:
"I mean that’s my layout. lol"
Instead of acknowledging the point, asorelli doubled down:
"Look for their API info, then just create a function to pull the data..."
He continued giving advice on something the OP had already implemented.

🔹 Misrepresenting the Topic (Post #10)
asorelli made a snide remark:
"You wanna manually grab the promo material and integrate it? That goes against all your AI agenda..."
This was a strawman — mainstreammix never suggested manually grabbing anything.
It misrepresented the post to criticize a made-up point.

🔹 Deflecting Blame and Reframing (Posts #12–14)
When called out, asorelli blamed the OP:
"Clarity is key. I don't think AI can read minds yet."
But the question was already clear — others like LouiseLloyd and emmasexytime understood it without issue.
He reframed the exchange to make it about vagueness, instead of admitting his own off-topic assumption.

🔹 Escalation and Defensiveness (Posts #16–20)
Even when the OP quoted his post to demonstrate its clarity, asorelli still refused to acknowledge the misread.
Instead, he:
  • []Claimed he was "fact-checking"
    []Called the OP a "bloviator"
  • Tried to back out while still throwing jabs
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nothing but lies and distractions
Buddy, if anyone wants to read your post with not much clarity, it's available for them, right here:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...omo-tools.html

There, maybe that will give it some attention. Now if you're all done with distractions, please move along, thanks.
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How do they keep getting dumber?

PS, the private chat where all the real webmasters hang out has been mocking you for days. You didn't get the invite?

Maybe someone from pol can stop by to agree with you out of spite.
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And here's the AI one for anyone interested:

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For your sake I hope you've been perpetually drunk all week.
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PS, the private chat where all the real webmasters hang out has been mocking you for days. You didn't get the invite?
Ohh, how sweet, guess I'm living in your head rent free (quoting blackmonsters). Tell Mindi I said hi! You really think I give 2 fucks what kids are chatting about in a private message? Post it publicly, or is it just a bunch of schoolgirls ranting in a pm.
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The problem is that in some states even going to non nude doesn't stop issues if they want to be assholes. And the cost to verify is far too high to support most current models. More consolidation to come.
I agree 100%, and I also agree that they are being completely assholish about it. The law is more about winning and keeping votes from evangelicals than protecting kids. Regardless, the law is the law.

And agreed the cost is high...but what choices do we have?
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Geezus, what in the actual fuck?! Wonder if anyone has been able to find these sacred plans of theirs?


This is not meant to sound rude, but where have you been the past couple of years? The "sacred plan" was provided to everyone transparently, and people just said: "it'll never happen/it's not real!"

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Cerulean is right, asorelli. These coming changes have been known about for years now.


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Just a word of advice to you or any others that feel it's appropriate to attempt to silence anyone from leaving comments. Freedom of speech is a fundamental human right that allows for the open exchange of ideas and information and plays a crucial role in promoting accountability and transparency. The attempt to suppress freedom of speech through attacks or intimidation, is bordering on the same level as what these very laws have done.
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I agree 100%, and I also agree that they are being completely assholish about it. The law is more about winning and keeping votes from evangelicals than protecting kids. Regardless, the law is the law.

And agreed the cost is high...but what choices do we have?
No choice, I just don't see a way for smaller sites to comply UNTIL a company finds a much cheaper solution and shares the age verification bringing the costs down.

You should write it.

Edit: Throw in the towel.

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more like fucked over.
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If this is who I think it is, I like the rebrand.
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...but what choices do we have?
Obviously, none at the moment, other than to appease the gods or get out.

However, there are several other ways to approach this. It appears people are more concerned about who I am, or why I don't know this, as if only their opinions matter. Anyway, it is what it is.

When lawsuits and criminal charges start rolling out, good luck. If you think you're safe because you've integrated an age verification method, you are sadly mistaken.
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The law is more about winning and keeping votes from evangelicals than protecting kids. Regardless, the law is the law.
When people throw in the towel or raise up their hands and give in, authoritarian regimes begin to emerge.
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Heard it here first, folks.

Step 1) ________________________???/

Step 2) Talk shit on GFY.
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Having a hard time following? Here's some cliff notes. All you need to know for now. But hey, maybe if I get an invite to that private chat I can start spreading some gossip (err, I mean sharing more details) too. Please, no thanks.

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You are not going to creatively get around these weird ass laws without blocking entire states or countries. There is no magic solution, wtf are you smoking?
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This isn’t trump, moron. These are bipartisan bills. Uniparty bs. This is the covid passport the shit libs never got.

Those who supported tubes did this. The attorneys, the processors, the magazines, etc. the adult industry always sits on the black dildo of consequences. Every. Single. Time.
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Get a fucking grip.

That's a billion hypocrites. Not a single one of them would even admit that they jack off.


Yep. I agree. The only thing that will cause this to go away is if a link can be shown that violence towards women increased, or a massive data breach. Other than that, it’s follow the law or suffah.
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This isn’t trump, moron. These are bipartisan bills. Uniparty bs. This is the covid passport the shit libs never got.

Those who supported tubes did this. The attorneys, the processors, the magazines, etc. the adult industry always sits on the black dildo of consequences. Every. Single. Time.
You can't own a single thing in regards to Conservatives. Those pushing, lobbying for and introducing bills are almost entirely Republicans.

But hey, blaming tubes again is cute. As if they would be fine with all the other porn out there as long as it didn't end in tube.com

But to be fair, they only told you what they would do, wrote it down, bragged about it at every step and then did it. Anyone could have missed that!

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📍 Texas House Bill 1181 (88th Legislature, 2023)
HB 1181 was introduced in the Texas House by Rep. Cody Harris Leach (R) as the committee substitute sponsor, replacing the original author Rep. Shaheen (R). It was co‑sponsored by approximately 20 Republican legislators, including Reps. Bettencourt (R), Alvarado (R), Birdwell (R), Campbell (R), Creighton (R), Flores (R), Hall (R), Hinojosa (R), Huffman (R), Hughes (R), King (R), Kolkhorst (R), LaMantia (R), Menéndez (R), Middleton (R), Parker (R), Perry (R), Sparks (R), West (R), and Zaffirini (R), making it a strongly GOP‑backed effort

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The legislation was publicly championed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R), who defended HB 1181 in courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court. Advocacy in support also came from a coalition of Republican state attorneys general and conservative lawmakers. The bill faced opposition from civil‑liberties organizations such as the ACLU, EFF, and Free Speech Coalition, which warned of privacy infringements and First Amendment violations


On the House floor vote (RV#1285), HB 1181 passed 135–5: 79 Republicans and 56 Democrats voted "Yea", while all 5 "Nay" votes were cast by Democrats. One Republican abstained, and nine members were absent (three Democrats, six Republicans)

. No Republican voted against the bill.

⚖️ U.S. Supreme Court — Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton (June 27, 2025)
In a 6‑3 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld HB 1181, ruling that Texas’ age‑verification requirement for websites with one-third or more sexual content harmful to minors was constitutional under intermediate scrutiny. Justice Clarence Thomas (conservative) wrote the majority opinion, joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, and Justices Alito, Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch. They concluded that the law places only an “incidental” burden on adult speech and is narrowly tailored to protect minors, an interest states are permitted to pursue


The dissent was authored by Justice Elena Kagan (liberal), joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson. They argued the law should have triggered strict scrutiny, not intermediate, asserting that it overly restricts adults’ access to constitutionally protected speech and imposes significant privacy risks
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You can't own a single thing in regards to Conservatives. Those pushing, lobbying for and introducing bills are almost entirely Republicans.

But hey, blaming tubes again is cute. As if they would be fine with all the other porn out there as long as it didn't end in tube.com

But to be fair, they only told you what they would do, wrote it down, bragged about it at every step and then did it. Anyone could have missed that!
Dude it’s both parties. When both agree there is a deeper reason. The NC bill was all dems. Sure, is there some religious fuckery attacking porn? Yes, but so is the far left. Porn is the new israel, bro. Everyone hates it today. And ya, it was the tubes.
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Yep. I agree. The only thing that will cause this to go away is if a link can be shown that violence towards women increased, or a massive data breach. Other than that, it’s follow the law or suffah.
Yeah, a massive data breach is on the horizon with this for sure. Look at the tea app, and "leak of data".

According to their tos:

"Signing up for Tea requires users to take selfies, which the app says are deleted after review, to prove they are women."

Sounds a lot like what yoti and the other face scan providers are pitching.

*However, I will say it again, I do believe there are many ways to have someone support porn without having to admit they support porn.

*No, I'm not going to outline everything here*


Note: To be clear, nowhere did I mention to NOT DO ANY VERIFICATION, only that you should do your due diligence on the provider you choose, or if possible, do your own internal age verification. It will be much cheaper in the long haul, and the data is yours, not some 3rd parties. But, ya'll can do whatever the fuck you want, I couldn't care less.
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Dude it’s both parties. When both agree there is a deeper reason. The NC bill was all dems. Sure, is there some religious fuckery attacking porn? Yes, but so is the far left. Porn is the new israel, bro. Everyone hates it today. And ya, it was the tubes.
The far left is sex worker friendly and posts nudes openly. You are calling centrist Democrats (Republicans) the far left.
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The far left is sex worker friendly and posts nudes openly. You are calling centrist Democrats (Republicans) the far left.
The far left has rad fems, bro. They hate porn. The radfems and mgtow have somehow joined forces
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The far left has rad fems, bro. They hate porn. The radfems and mgtow have somehow joined forces
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Out of 100 self-identified leftists:

~40–60% may identify as liberal or intersectional feminists (if feminist at all).

~30–50% may be leftists who support feminist ideals but don’t strongly identify as feminists.

Probably <5% are radical feminists, depending on how strictly you define it.
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Who fucking cares. Crying about ghosts again while ignoring the 100% of right wingers that are anti porn.
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Who fucking cares. Crying about ghosts again while ignoring the 100% of right wingers that are anti porn.
You’re a reddit bundle of sticks, go look up all the anti porn subs. It’s all soy lefty’s and rad fems. They want to take down the patriarchy,. They think this will do it. Terfs, man haters etc. horseshoe theory. Stop trying to exculpate the left. The bolshevik socialists killed way more than the nazis btdubs
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You’re a reddit bundle of sticks, go look up all the anti porn subs. It’s all soy lefty’s and rad fems. They want to take down the patriarchy,. They think this will do it. Terfs, man haters etc. horseshoe theory. Stop trying to exculpate the left. The bolshevik socialists killed way more than the nazis btdubs
My rep shares jerk off tattle tale apps with his kid. Republicans have been anti porn my entire fucking life. A minority of blowhards on reddit is about the dumbest place you could look to keep your finger on the pulse. A few years ago trans women controlled 80% of subs even though they are 1% of the population.

I haven't met a radfem IRL in 10 years, met thousands of MAGA though.
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Ohh, how sweet, guess I'm living in your head rent free (quoting blackmonsters). Tell Mindi I said hi! You really think I give 2 fucks what kids are chatting about in a private message? Post it publicly, or is it just a bunch of schoolgirls ranting in a pm.
why am i in this? i'm not in any private chat i don't know what he is talking about
i just wanted to learn here
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why am i in this? i'm not in any private chat i don't know what he is talking about
i just wanted to learn here
Typo. Should have said Hindi. You might want to go back to discord, you'll find friendly peeps over there.
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Typo. Should have said Hindi. You might want to go back to discord, you'll find friendly peeps over there.
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