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blackmonsters · 09-06-2025, 10:00 AM

AI is the new "illegal tube site".

Anthropic to pay authors $1.5 billion to settle lawsuit over pirated books used to train AI chatbots.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...191256917.html

NEW YORK (AP) — Artificial intelligence company Anthropic has agreed to pay $1.5 billion to settle a class-action lawsuit by book authors who say the company took pirated copies of their works to train its chatbot.

The landmark settlement, if approved by a judge as soon as Monday, could mark a turning point in legal battles between AI companies and the writers, visual artists and other creative professionals who accuse them of copyright infringement.

The company has agreed to pay authors or publishers about $3,000 for each of an estimated 500,000 books covered by the settlement.

Hey AI;

Yo mamma!

Farang · 09-06-2025, 10:56 AM

the Chinese don't give a shit about copyright, they train their models on whatever. not smart of US to handicap its own AI efforts with bs lawsuits.

blackmonsters · 09-06-2025, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Farang

the Chinese don't give a shit about copyright, they train their models on whatever. not smart of US to handicap its own AI efforts with bs lawsuits.

It's smart to set a foundation that can be used to justify a international rule of law.
It's not like Chinese people are incapable of learning without America putting a bomb up their ass.

Further more, what need do we have for AI to steal children's books and romance novels?

Farang · 09-06-2025, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's smart to set a foundation that can be used to justify a international rule of law.
It's not like Chinese people are incapable of learning without America putting a bomb up their ass.

Further more, what need do we have for AI to steal children's books and romance novels?

this may be followed by more lawsuits from different industries. this is bad. we're in AI race(well, not 'we' technically - I'm from the EU, but I root for America). it's ok if you believe that the Chinese may be talked sense into(i disagree), but how about russia? those fucks definitely don't give a shit about copyright or even morals in general.

mechanicvirus · 09-06-2025, 02:36 PM

Nice, I might start ambulance chasing AI cases.

mainstreammix · 09-06-2025, 05:14 PM

Imagine waking up every day and seething about yet another unavoidable thing.

The tubes, the tubes!

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The privately held Anthropic, founded by ex-OpenAI leaders in 2021, earlier this week put its value at $183 billion after raising another $13 billion in investments.

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The industry, including Anthropic, had largely praised Alsup’s June ruling because he found that training AI systems on copyrighted works so chatbots can produce their own passages of text qualified as “fair use” under U.S. copyright law because it was “quintessentially transformative.”

Comparing the AI model to “any reader aspiring to be a writer,” Alsup wrote that Anthropic "trained upon works not to race ahead and replicate or supplant them — but to turn a hard corner and create something different."

But documents disclosed in court showed Anthropic employees’ internal concerns about the legality of their use of pirate sites. The company later shifted its approach and hired Tom Turvey, the former Google executive in charge of Google Books, a searchable library of digitized books that successfully weathered years of copyright battles.

With his help, Anthropic began buying books in bulk, tearing off the bindings and scanning each page before feeding the digitized versions into its AI model, according to court documents. That was legal but didn’t undo the earlier piracy, according to the judge.

mainstreammix · 09-06-2025, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

Nice, I might start ambulance chasing AI cases.

It's a regular old piracy case, they downloaded books illegally. Wouldn't matter what they were doing with them.

Of course OP tried to spin it into his "how dare they use existing things to train a computer!" narrative which is why he left out all relevant parts of the story.

blackmonsters · 09-06-2025, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Farang

this may be followed by more lawsuits from different industries. this is bad. we're in AI race(well, not 'we' technically - I'm from the EU, but I root for America). it's ok if you believe that the Chinese may be talked sense into(i disagree), but how about russia? those fucks definitely don't give a shit about copyright or even morals in general.

Read bro.
The issue is not AI, it's about using it to steal shit from hard working creative people.
Use AI to make bombs all you want to, because that information is not scraped off of websites.

Using AI to "write" a romance novel is complete bullshit. It's all stolen human content.
The fucking machine can't love anyone or even get a "hard on".

mainstreammix · 09-06-2025, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Read bro.
The issue is not AI, it's about using it to steal shit from hard working creative people.
Use AI to make bombs all you want to, because that information is not scraped off of websites.

Using AI to "write" a romance novel is complete bullshit. It's all stolen human content.
The fucking machine can't love anyone or even get a "hard on".

The same judge you're cheering on here said all of that is fine. Get out of your perpetual hater mindset and drag into the future, it's all downhill from here if you don't.

mechanicvirus · 09-07-2025, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix

It's a regular old piracy case, they downloaded books illegally. Wouldn't matter what they were doing with them.

Of course OP tried to spin it into his "how dare they use existing things to train a computer!" narrative which is why he left out all relevant parts of the story.

I'll just sue the AI company and the OP.. double judgement.

Ez breezy.

The Porn Nerd · 09-07-2025, 02:23 PM

This will be interesting to see how it affects the class action lawsuits against music AI platforms like Suno. The same principles apply there.

Of course getting slapped with a paltry billion dollar fine is just the price of doing business when your company is now worth billions. LOL

Once every artist - visual, musical, whatever - gets paid something (anything) this will all die down and AI will flood all entertainment, and completely wipe out living breathing artists.

Enjoy the future 'cause it's coming

mainstreammix · 09-07-2025, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

This will be interesting to see how it affects the class action lawsuits against music AI platforms like Suno. The same principles apply there.

Of course getting slapped with a paltry billion dollar fine is just the price of doing business when your company is now worth billions. LOL

Once every artist - visual, musical, whatever - gets paid something (anything) this will all die down and AI will flood all entertainment, and completely wipe out living breathing artists.

Enjoy the future 'cause it's coming

Did you miss the whole "judge said training on copyrighted works is fine" part? They illegally downloaded books which was against the law before AI. If anyone is depending on the law to stop AI which has already swallowed everything they will be disappointed.

The Porn Nerd · 09-08-2025, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix

Did you miss the whole "judge said training on copyrighted works is fine" part? They illegally downloaded books which was against the law before AI. If anyone is depending on the law to stop AI which has already swallowed everything they will be disappointed.

Yes I did notice that - and that is the problem (the 'stealing' of copyrighted content to train the AI).

The solution, of course, is for AI companies to simply license various works to train their AI.

mainstreammix · 09-08-2025, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Yes I did notice that - and that is the problem (the 'stealing' of copyrighted content to train the AI).

The solution, of course, is for AI companies to simply license various works to train their AI.

They did, they bought books and scanned.

But you don't have to buy things are are readily available online for free. If you can use it for inspiration so can AI.

The Porn Nerd · 09-08-2025, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix

They did, they bought books and scanned.

But you don't have to buy things are are readily available online for free. If you can use it for inspiration so can AI.

Yes they did buy books - but only after they got scared that they might get popped by the court so it was a pre-emptive move.

But I hope you are correct here - I am getting into creating AI music so I hope all these platforms work out the training aspect of AI so I can continue making my cool old skool rock and roll songs!

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