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EZRhino · 07-22-2003, 12:55 AM

I'm curiouse, if Europe vanished today, would we notice or care? It seems to me that historicaly the US tends to want to protect its interests and will involve itself if needs be. I seem to remember that in WWI and WWII we wanted to stay out of Europe (isolation policy), we only got into it becuse we were attacked in one way or another (Lusitania & Pearl Harbor). So one could say that Europe is not really a vital interest to the US and hasnt been for decades.
Or am I wrong?
What is a major US export to Europe?
The US and Japan fund nearly 50% of the UN budget, who funds the other 50%?
Do we need their help or technology to fight a war?
Can we trust their intelignece agencies?
Do they respect the US at all?
WTF are they good for besides pissing on them?
Ofcourse thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

vapewiz · 07-22-2003, 12:57 AM

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What is a major US export to Europe?

PORN?

teenjump · 07-22-2003, 12:59 AM

Biggest export is dentists.

mule · 07-22-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by EZRhino

Ofcourse thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

yep

Zappu · 07-22-2003, 01:05 AM

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PORN

I gon't think so, because Germany is the sec. largest market in the porn business but not with US stuff

@EZRhino
I guess you have to ask this in another way arround. Does Europe need the US? Does Europe need wars just to give the states some new crued oil fields? Does Europe need to get heard all telephone calls by the NVA/CIA. By whom you got the technology for a A-Bomb, Missiles, Jet Fighters?

vapewiz · 07-22-2003, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Zappu

I gon't think so, because Germany is the sec. largest market in the porn business but not with US stuff

so your sellin more content to german webmasters then US?

Webby · 07-22-2003, 01:24 AM

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I'm curiouse, if Europe vanished today, would we notice or care?

Considering US agiculture, food and plenty more industries would go bust - It might be an idea to think further than your nose.

But I doubt you would notice - too stupid!

sacX · 07-22-2003, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by EZRhino
The US and Japan fund nearly 50% of the UN budget, who funds the other 50%?
Do we need their help or technology to fight a war?
Can we trust their intelignece agencies?

uh.. Europe contributes more than the US to the UN..

Webby · 07-22-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by EZRhino
The US and Japan fund nearly 50% of the UN budget, who funds the other 50%?
Do we need their help or technology to fight a war?
Can we trust their intelignece agencies?

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uh.. Europe contributes more than the US to the UN..

Oddly they US did not even pay their UN fees to join the club - till they found this "need"

Think they may still owe back dues.

Do we need their help or technology to fight a war? Nope, fight your own wars at your own expense.

Can we trust their intelignece agencies? That's classic! Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black! Nobody trusts a word of US Intell or the Admin. (By the way the word is "intelligence")

Sheesh.. Pathetic You always so stupid?

Odin88 · 07-22-2003, 02:00 AM

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I'm curiouse, if Europe vanished today, would we notice or care? It seems to me that historicaly the US tends to want to protect its interests and will involve itself if needs be. I seem to remember that in WWI and WWII we wanted to stay out of Europe (isolation policy), we only got into it becuse we were attacked in one way or another (Lusitania & Pearl Harbor). So one could say that Europe is not really a vital interest to the US and hasnt been for decades.

What a fucking idiot. Yah, try running the world economy with your failing dollar, and increase in worthless immigrants - I am sure Bush could manage it!

Maru · 07-22-2003, 02:03 AM

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I'm curiouse, if Europe vanished today, would we notice or care?

Dumb people don't need a lot. Some hamburgers to eat, some beer to drink, television to take away any residual traces of intelligence. So no - you don't need Europe.

margarita · 07-22-2003, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Maru

Dumb people don't need a lot. Some hamburgers to eat, some beer to drink, television to take away any residual traces of intelligence. So no - you don't need Europe.

Damned right

DJRCyberAVS · 07-22-2003, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by EZRhino
I'm curiouse, if Europe vanished today, would we notice or care? It seems to me that historicaly the US tends to want to protect its interests and will involve itself if needs be. I seem to remember that in WWI and WWII we wanted to stay out of Europe (isolation policy), we only got into it becuse we were attacked in one way or another (Lusitania & Pearl Harbor). So one could say that Europe is not really a vital interest to the US and hasnt been for decades.
Or am I wrong?
What is a major US export to Europe?
The US and Japan fund nearly 50% of the UN budget, who funds the other 50%?
Do we need their help or technology to fight a war?
Can we trust their intelignece agencies?
Do they respect the US at all?
WTF are they good for besides pissing on them?
Ofcourse thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Total asscheese...

Waste of time dicussing any WW2 shit because very few appear to be educated enough to grasp that any other country was fighting the Germans but the US.

A major export... Crap TV shows for one. Good films another.
Do you need our technology... LOL. Our SAS guys seem to help you out enough when you ask them
Intelligence? Do you we trust yours...
Do they respect the US at all? Yes.. Dumb Americans, no.
WTF are they good for besides pissing on them? If you think Europe's a walk over and you're pissing on us... then go back to your trailer and pour yourself another beer, don't even try to understand the shit that piles out of your mouth.
You could be wrong? hmm.. might be, could be, but certainly are a fuckwad.

quiet · 07-22-2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by Maru

Dumb people don't need a lot. Some hamburgers to eat, some beer to drink, television to take away any residual traces of intelligence. So no - you don't need Europe.

bingo

eiht_98 · 07-22-2003, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Maru

Dumb people don't need a lot. Some hamburgers to eat, some beer to drink, television to take away any residual traces of intelligence. So no - you don't need Europe.

nice one Manu

SGx · 07-22-2003, 02:19 AM

US was nice 200 years ago, when it was full of french and english colonies

now, they all turned evil

ADL Colin · 07-22-2003, 02:20 AM

UN backdues are paid. They were not paid for a while because of a dispute regarding the structure by which the US was paying a much higher percentage share of dues than it was receiving in benefits. Previously, the US was paying 30% of peacekeeping costs and 25% of regular UN fees. It is now 25% and 22% respectively. This is still not in proportion to benefit but it has been agreed to. The US Congress would not approve paying such a high amount given that the US has only one vote and one veto (20% of veto's) which set in motion the process bywhich the US was not paying it's dues until the matter what settled.

As far as the original question, I don't think the US needs Europe nor do I think Europe needs the US. Both would do well without the the other though with some loss of efficiency (higher costs for some items), and so forth.

I do think however that both are important to each other. European nations give the US important bases for military operations. The US trains many European nation's air force pilots.
Economically, neither can discount the other. I'd say politically that the EU has as much clout as the US economically (tariffs, regulations). The relationships are important.

The UK is the most important ally of the United States. Those nations together can project more power in the world through their navies and in particular their air craft carriers than all other nations combined.

For that matter, Asia too is important and increasing in importance. Japan is by far the world's second largest economy. China is up and coming.

ADL Colin · 07-22-2003, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by SGx
US was nice 200 years ago, when it was full of french and english colonies

now, they all turned evil

The US didn't change. You did. ;-)

KRL · 07-22-2003, 02:24 AM

You could lose some parts of Europe and the impact would be absorbable obviously, but the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain, and France are all powerful and important countries. Oh and don't forget little ole Switzerland where all the worlds pilfered money is stashed.

Sarah_Jayne · 07-22-2003, 04:15 AM

how about we just get rid of stupid people. When it is all done we can fit the rest of us into one landmass and forget about it.

ADL Colin · 07-22-2003, 05:37 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
how about we just get rid of stupid people.

If you killed the more stupid half of the population then the stupid half of who is left would just start to look stupid to the brighter half.

Do this 33x and you'll only have one person left. She'll be a damned genius though.

Mr.Fiction · 07-22-2003, 05:40 AM

Does this thread really matter?

If it disappeared would anyone care?

theking · 07-22-2003, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

If you killed the more stupid half of the population then the stupid half of who is left would just start to look stupid to the brighter half.

Do this 33x and you'll only have one person left. She'll be a damned genius though.

I didn't know that you are a female Colin.

Brown Bear · 07-22-2003, 06:08 AM

*sigh*

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 07-22-2003, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Does this thread really matter?

If it disappeared would anyone care?

i wouldnt care in the least..i just cant believe all the ignorant bullshit people start thinking...not a damn one of us has any say over how our governments are run...we are all from the same planet....

If EARTH were gone tomorrow..do you think the other planets would give a shit?

Mr.Fiction · 07-22-2003, 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

If EARTH were gone tomorrow..do you think the other planets would give a shit?

Good point.

dana · 07-22-2003, 06:25 AM

EZRhino, are you so stupid or you are underaged?

ADL Colin · 07-22-2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by theking

I didn't know that you are a female Colin.

You're a good friend. I promise to say two nice things about you next week. ;-)

Brown Bear · 07-22-2003, 06:49 AM

The GDP of Europe is slightly larger than the US

The population of Europe is slightly more than the US

I think someone might notice if it was gone.

Libertine · 07-22-2003, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

If you killed the more stupid half of the population then the stupid half of who is left would just start to look stupid to the brighter half.

Do this 33x and you'll only have one person left. She'll be a damned genius though.

Actually, it would probably be a "he", since men tend to differ more from the standard than women. However, since that goes in both ways, the first killing would consist primarily of men.
Also, after 33 times you'd have 3/4 of a person left

ADL Colin · 07-22-2003, 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

Actually, it would probably be a "he", since men tend to differ more from the standard than women. However, since that goes in both ways, the first killing would consist primarily of men.
Also, after 33 times you'd have 3/4 of a person left

Yeah, it gets messed up along the way splitting an odd number of people. We didn't make a rule for how to handle that.

EZRhino · 07-22-2003, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by dana
EZRhino, are you so stupid or you are underaged?

Good post, I never heard such a witty remark, let me write it down. "are you ...so ... stupid ... or ..... you are ....... underaged ...? ..." Let me put that away for a special post and use sometime in the future.

Soul · 07-22-2003, 12:53 PM

I am american and dam proud!!!!!
Society will be a better place to live when all learn to coexist together!!!!!!!
but as for the middle EAST I say just drop a whole shit load of bombs and be done with it!

Lee · 07-22-2003, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by EZRhino

Good post, I never heard such a witty remark, let me write it down. "are you ...so ... stupid ... or ..... you are ....... underaged ...? ..." Let me put that away for a special post and use sometime in the future.

Unfortunately I think that I am going to have to take this post as written.

Edit: Damn grammar sucks sometimes

Tipsy · 07-22-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by EZRhino

Good post, I never heard such a witty remark, let me write it down. "are you ...so ... stupid ... or ..... you are ....... underaged ...? ..." Let me put that away for a special post and use sometime in the future.

I don't think being witty was involved. Simply a very valid observation. Still, if youre going to look stupid I suppose you may as well do it in style.

clubsexy · 07-22-2003, 02:50 PM

Another pissing match... what a great bunch of piss this board is today....

Webby · 07-22-2003, 02:59 PM

Na.. I ain't gonna post again on this thread.. it was initiated by an total idiot who can't even write and clearly has no comprehension of *anything* in this world ..

Another aborted fetus...

Elli · 07-22-2003, 03:00 PM

Rhino, are you talking about wiping clean the population of Europe and the America not caring? (In which case I wonder which country would LOVE to move in and repopulate.) Or are we chopping an entire continent off the globe for the sake of hypothesis?

If countries co-exist, then yes, they must always care what the other is doing. That's the nature of politics, economics, trade, security, etc etc.

Damn those wiggling butts on the Ultimate Feeds banner are distracting....

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EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	Does Europe really matter I'm curiouse, if Europe vanished today, would we notice or care? It seems to me that historicaly the US tends to want to protect its interests and will involve itself if needs be. I seem to remember that in WWI and WWII we wanted to stay out of Europe (isolation policy), we only got into it becuse we were attacked in one way or another (Lusitania & Pearl Harbor). So one could say that Europe is not really a vital interest to the US and hasnt been for decades. Or am I wrong? What is a major US export to Europe? The US and Japan fund nearly 50% of the UN budget, who funds the other 50%? Do we need their help or technology to fight a war? Can we trust their intelignece agencies? Do they respect the US at all? WTF are they good for besides pissing on them? Ofcourse thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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