SEO Question... Dynamic pages VS Static pages - GoFuckYourself.com

psyko514 · 12-15-2003, 07:11 PM

Hey guys... I need some advice here.

I run a (non-adult) graffiti site. I have over 1300 pictures.

Right now, I have all the pictures divided up into 154 thumbnail galleries of 9 pics each. Each thumbnail links to the full pic on an HTML page.

Each gallery has a drop down menu linking to all the other galleries. Each full pic has a drop down menu leading to the other full pics.

ALT tags, meta tags, etc are all there.

Now I'm assuming this is good for SEO. But when I add a new gallery, I have to recreate every gallery and full pic page and reupload it. Obviously, this is a pain in the ass.

I can do it a lot faster and easier with a dynamic gallery using PHP. I'm assuming this isn't good for SEO.

My question how significantly different would my SE ranking/traffic be if I opted for a dynamic gallery vs a static gallery?

I appreciate the help!

http · 12-15-2003, 07:21 PM

The drop down menu's are in j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t? Then google won't follow them, I think

hyper · 12-15-2003, 07:23 PM

use apaches mod rewrite and rewrite the url's

psyko514 · 12-15-2003, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by http
The drop down menu's are in j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t? Then google won't follow them, I think

yeah, i'm aware of that.

each gallery also has a static link to previous, next, first, last as does each full pic page.

WiredGuy · 12-15-2003, 08:00 PM

I'd need to see your html page to let you know for sure, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by your post.

WG

sarettah · 12-15-2003, 08:54 PM

Make the whole thing dynamic and then tell the server that .htm/.html should load php and then the SEs will not know the difference... It will look satic to them...

psyko514 · 12-15-2003, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by sarettah
Make the whole thing dynamic and then tell the server that .htm/.html should load php and then the SEs will not know the difference... It will look satic to them...

is that so? the search engine will rank em both the same way?

MattO · 12-15-2003, 09:46 PM

most of my sites are dynamic, and the SE's don't seem to have a problem. If you're adding sites like you want to do, just make sure you have a real basic sitemap in plain HTML that you keep updated. Spiders like sitemaps!

Rorschach · 12-15-2003, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

is that so? the search engine will rank em both the same way?

php is parsed server side, before the output page is sent to the requesting user agent, so all the spider sees is what it thinks is a static .html page.

{fusion} · 12-15-2003, 10:48 PM

google ignores meta tags. title is more important.

as for java, a cool way is to do something like this

hahahahahahahaha LANGUAGE="hahahahahahahahahaha" src="java.js"></hahahahahahahaha

use that and put your script in the java.js file.

make sure you dont have the <hahahahahahahaha </hahahahahahahaha in the java.js file though.

this way cuts your code down and spider ignores the java.

This is useful as google doesnt index that much of the page when it spiders.

as gfy has edited it, it doesnt make any sense. but basicly just use and external java script and include it instead of having it on one page

static is way better, with keyword rich text added

psyko514 · 12-15-2003, 11:21 PM

i think i'm going to drop the whole drop down menu thing all together (at least on the full size pic pages). i just realized that because each full size page links to over 1300 other pages, each page is 112 KB, not including the pic and buttons. eesh!

the site isn't up yet, but i just uploaded a sample of a gallery page as it is right now.

i'm trying to get listings under grafitti, montreal, bombed and bombing or any combination.

{fusion} · 12-16-2003, 12:38 AM

whats your tag?

psyko514 · 12-16-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by {fusion}
whats your tag?

when i used to write, it was laker.
now i just document it.

{fusion} · 12-16-2003, 12:55 AM

be cool to see your site, i enjoy the work some of its pretty mindblowing

psyko514 · 12-16-2003, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
be cool to see your site, i enjoy the work some of its pretty mindblowing

actually, most of what's on my site isn't really pretty to the general viewing public.

i focus more on bombing/tagging then actual graffiti.

so, anyone else got SEO advice for me?

Trax · 12-16-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by {fusion}
google ignores meta tags

wrong

Brad-Wishing · 12-16-2003, 01:14 AM

The page parses as clean HTML. As far as a search engine sees it is not dynamic in any sense.

Dravyk · 12-16-2003, 10:32 AM

Search engines have had to keep up with the times. For a long while now .php extensions have been followed.

Hell, some of the SEs can now actually spider text and links found inside Flash. Forget where but I had found it (so don't ask for the URL) but I came across a Flash spider emulator about eight months ago. Tried it out on a site I had where I knew what was in the Flash, and damn if it didn't extract the text and the links perfectly!

psyko514 · 12-16-2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dravyk
Search engines have had to keep up with the times. For a long while now .php extensions have been followed.

Hell, some of the SEs can now actually spider text and links found inside Flash. Forget where but I had found it (so don't ask for the URL) but I came across a Flash spider emulator about eight months ago. Tried it out on a site I had where I knew what was in the Flash, and damn if it didn't extract the text and the links perfectly!

interesting... thanks!

funkmaster · 12-16-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Trax

wrong

wrong

12-15-2003, 07:11 PM	#1
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	SEO Question... Dynamic pages VS Static pages Hey guys... I need some advice here. I run a (non-adult) graffiti site. I have over 1300 pictures. Right now, I have all the pictures divided up into 154 thumbnail galleries of 9 pics each. Each thumbnail links to the full pic on an HTML page. Each gallery has a drop down menu linking to all the other galleries. Each full pic has a drop down menu leading to the other full pics. ALT tags, meta tags, etc are all there. Now I'm assuming this is good for SEO. But when I add a new gallery, I have to recreate every gallery and full pic page and reupload it. Obviously, this is a pain in the ass. I can do it a lot faster and easier with a dynamic gallery using PHP. I'm assuming this isn't good for SEO. My question how significantly different would my SE ranking/traffic be if I opted for a dynamic gallery vs a static gallery? I appreciate the help! __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

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{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	google ignores meta tags. title is more important. as for java, a cool way is to do something like this hahahahahahahaha LANGUAGE="hahahahahahahahahaha" src="java.js"></hahahahahahahaha use that and put your script in the java.js file. make sure you dont have the <hahahahahahahaha </hahahahahahahaha in the java.js file though. this way cuts your code down and spider ignores the java. This is useful as google doesnt index that much of the page when it spiders. as gfy has edited it, it doesnt make any sense. but basicly just use and external java script and include it instead of having it on one page static is way better, with keyword rich text added Last edited by {fusion}; 12-15-2003 at 10:52 PM..

12-15-2003, 07:21 PM	#2
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	The drop down menu's are in j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t? Then google won't follow them, I think

12-15-2003, 09:46 PM	#8
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	most of my sites are dynamic, and the SE's don't seem to have a problem. If you're adding sites like you want to do, just make sure you have a real basic sitemap in plain HTML that you keep updated. Spiders like sitemaps!

12-15-2003, 11:21 PM	#11
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	i think i'm going to drop the whole drop down menu thing all together (at least on the full size pic pages). i just realized that because each full size page links to over 1300 other pages, each page is 112 KB, not including the pic and buttons. eesh! the site isn't up yet, but i just uploaded a sample of a gallery page as it is right now. i'm trying to get listings under grafitti, montreal, bombed and bombing or any combination. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

12-16-2003, 12:38 AM	#12
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	whats your tag?

12-16-2003, 12:55 AM	#14
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	be cool to see your site, i enjoy the work some of its pretty mindblowing

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Dravyk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Yo, Philly! Posts: 1,202	Search engines have had to keep up with the times. For a long while now .php extensions have been followed. Hell, some of the SEs can now actually spider text and links found inside Flash. Forget where but I had found it (so don't ask for the URL) but I came across a Flash spider emulator about eight months ago. Tried it out on a site I had where I knew what was in the Flash, and damn if it didn't extract the text and the links perfectly! __________________ All Of 'Em