blakkfrogg

I received this in my email this morning. I'm passing it along so that one of you more powerful folks can possibly do something about this site. Rape is NOT a good thing and it most certainly isn't a form of goddamned entertainment!

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[This message has been edited by Wizzo (edited 11-01-2001).]

Gary

Prison rape is kinda funny, no?

blakkfrogg

Not really.... how would YOU feel if you got locked up for being in the wrong place at the absolute wrong time and got put in a cell with a guy named Colon Crusher?

Yeah, sure, the authorities eventually realize you had nothing to do with the crime and release you, but would you and your batttered rectum still think prison rape is funny then?

Rape is bad, no matter what the circumstances are. I can see your point in that SOME people deserve to be punished for the heinous crimes they have committed against individuals and society, but I don't think raping them will make their victims feel any better....

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^R3K^

I agree blakkfrogg, I think Rape Should be outlawed, i cant believe that it has gone this long without some legislation. if you start a movement i will follow!

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blakkfrogg

Funny thing is, rape IS outlawed in most of the world. the problem, I believe, is that depictions of rape may not be. Does anyone know about this? What does the actual law say? AND is it different in different states, countries, etc.?

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Gary

Wait a minute, rape is illegal? Damn, i better be more careful.

What next, no means no.

Naughty

Yeah, we got 3 of those today as well... suckers.

^R3K^

illegal? it was a joke blakkfrog.

well i searched for depictions of rape in the local, state and goverment laws. and found nothing but a want to have a law..
the thing is though, it is in there with bondage and fetish.. so where do the legestlators draw the line.. i know i have heard about penitration while in bondage was illegal but i havent found anything on taste.
it is in bad taste but for illegal i dont think so. but do we ask for goverment to step in? if so do they have the ability to enforce the laws and how will they catorgize put us? borderline criminals because of a bondage site or gallery? i dont welcome more goverment in this line of work, but i do expect it.
it is a matter of taste so far, so dont promote it or give it more publicity than they are trying to get..
**thats my opinion, aint worth shit but its mine**


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blakkfrogg

R3K... I know it was a joke. It's early in the day (anything before 3 pm is early to me ) but I still recognized the joke part.

I think the problem is going to be the fact that rape depictions are allowed in movies and on television. Why can they be done there, but not on the web? MY thought is that the ones on tv and in movies are obviously (we hope) re-enactments. The actors can usually be tracked down and that fact can be verified. On the Web a lot of images float around and it is almost impossible to trace their origin at times. SO it may be possible that the image is not of a re-enactment, but of some sicko doing the dirty deed with an unwilling participant.

Oh well... I guess I'm just too much of a conservative. LOL. Yeah, right! :P

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^R3K^

does the move deep throat ring a bell?
linda lovelace still says she was forced.. hell who knows

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GiggleBerries

Quote from George Carlin "Rape can be funny. Imagine Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd."

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how can you post that? thats rape and beastiality..

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Naughty

GiggleBerries, GC is my all time favorite!!
Among many others, but he rules!

Warphead

I think so too, that's why I'm against the death penalty, too easy on the bastards!

kai-tracid

why don't you post the real webmasters name and domain ??? maybe we can track that person down.

CC

I run a bunch of paysites and that asshole emailed me like 45 times today. Thank you, jack ass.

blakkfrogg

I did originally post it, but Wizzo seemed to think it best for the info to be edited out. I'm quite certain that somebody, someplace has complained to a higher power and the person who sent the email to me, and all the others who received it, is in some hot water..... preferably boiling.

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Incognito

It has been discussed before - that a line should be drawn by those who are meant to draw those lines.
Besides as long as it's a fantasy - it's a fantasy.

In this case though I'd rather notice that it was SPAM anyway. Just report the dude to his sponsors.

They'll take care of it. (Trust me).

ldinternet

I'm not sure about this whole 'fantasy' thing.

Seems that some people think that rape fantasy is normal... but think about it, it's just the same as animal sex fantasy or children sex fantasy. These are all the same, how can it be any different? I mean, it's a fantasy about something that is legally and morally wrong.

I see no difference between raping a grown woman and raping a child. Both are unwilling victims. In my locality, the age of consent is 16 years. How can the same people that think rape fantasy is okay, say that to fantasise about raping a 15 year old is wrong, but to fantasise about raping a 16 year old is okay? What about the guy fantasising about raping your 16 year old daughter? Seems that some people think that is okay and normal. Well... these 'fantasies' are certainly NOT.

There is no difference between the rape of a 20 year old woman, and the rape of a child or baby. All are a crime comitted against unwilling victims. Rape fantasy is wrong, just the same as children sex fantasy or necrophillia fantasy is wrong.

MrBrian

gary,
be nice before i send you to the "tossed salad man"

tenletters

What would be wrong with someone just
having the fantacy of raping someone?

If those feelings are just to get themselves
off and never transpire into real life then
I don't see what the harm is.

Not to say that real rape isn't one of the
worst things to do to someone. I've known
several women who've been raped and it does
kill a part of them.

I say let people think what they want... it
may just keep them from acting on their
twisted desires.

I don't really know what to think about the
depiction of rape, in photos. Not knowing if
they are real, or not, would bother me.

Gary

My dog has crabs.

tenletters

Damn Boneprone! Damn him to hell!

Incognito

And what if there's no rape? What if YOUR daughter takes part in a group gang bang and gets her face all in sperm? Does that sound any better?

The key word is FANTASY and that's all the difference. In child porn - there are already real victims present , right there on photos, same in ZOO sex, real dogs or horses fuck.
In rape fantasy - there's nothing wrong in photos , no one gets really raped, everyone is older than 18 , and there are no fucking dogs present - so there's no ACTUAL crime but just the fantasy itself is a dark one.
But people dont go to jail for FANTASIES in normal countries and places around the world.
In normal countries and places they go to jail for crimes and if a fantasy (whatever it is) becomes a crime then ....You're in a wrong place.

ldinternet

Where gangbangs are concerned, there's a difference between consenting and non consenting. Some chick wants to get a 10 inch dick up her ass... fine yeah, but for a 10 inch dick to be forced up someone's ass whlie they kick and scream against it is something different... fantasising about raping someone is just the same as fantasising about raping some little kid or otherwise fantasising about a forced sexual act against someone's will. Rape fantasy is rape fantasy, doesn't matter whether a person is above or below the consenting age 'cause they're not consenting anyway, it's forced. I don't have anything against these fake rape fantasy sites - I'm generally open minded and I have seen some real fucked up shit in my eighteen years on this planet - I just think it's fucked up when someone REALLY gets off on that shit.

Fantasising about something is near good as agreeing with it. Yes, there is a world of difference between jerking off to something and actually going out and DOING it, but intentions are the same either way.

Anyone that says they enjoy a rape fantasy but comepletely disagree with the real thing isn't to be believed. It's a proven fact it is impossible for the human brain to enjoy something that it doesn't agree with. Take fire for an example - it is physically impossible for a person to jerk off thinking about being burned if they don't actually enjoy being burned (and very few people do... heh). When a person (who enjoys rape fantasy) fantasises about rape they are placing themselves within a scenario which their brain considers 'enjoyable'.

In the end, there is a world of difference between thinking about it and doing it, but intentions are intentions. Even if they intention exists in fantasy.

SykkBoy

wow, IdInternet, your views scare the hell out of me...you sound like the Jimmy Swaggarts of the world...
forget about the rape fantasy argument and think about what business you are in and then think about what you've said...you want to jail people for their THOUGHTS?
Like I've said in previous posts, those who oppose porn oppose ALL porn...whether it's rape fantasy or a chick giving a dude a hummer...I can't wait until the Utah porn czar gets her followers all riled up and start their porn witch hunt...wait until they come after YOU for your thoughts and ideas...
I find it weird, never thought I'd see the thought police on an adult webmaster board...

Again, forget about the rape fantasy argument and take a really close look at what you posted...maybe I misread it, but I definately saw a "let's arrest people for their thoughts" vibe to that post...



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ldinternet

You missed it.

Incognito

You know, almost a century ago there was this bald old weirdo with a beard in my country who was very definite in what he beleived mostly because it was very logic and flawless. Some smart people though mentioned that it was TOO logic and TOO right and correct while generally people are less logic and right with their lives. Like for instance he said that ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL and therefore should live equally. He also said that it is an unbeatable fact because basicly all people have 2 hands, 2 legs and one head. Smart guys tried to persuade him that even within those 2 legs, 2 hands and one head there might be , just might be, some difference but he called them assholes and You know what? It worked out.
Since that time for the next couple of decades my country was in total shit , trying to make everyone equall, because it finally has turned out that "oh shit! smart guys were right! we're not that equal!"
so there came another stupido-idioto who has solved that problem relatively easy. He defined what was wrong (by the way - "wrong" was simply opposite to his point of view ). So he just forbid people to speak WRONG things, to do WRONG things and eventually to THINK WRONG things.

So 70 fucking years has been a fucking nightmare here, known as communism in Russia by the way, just because we had those 2 dudes here. One who had a flawless theorie about equal people and another who forbid THINKING.


Take a fucking hint.

jimmyf

You people really can't be serious! I've been
Fantasizing from the womb, but am sure the hell not telling any of you about them. You'll be try to regulate them and
the next thing you'll want to monitor my dreams.

As to the person spaming a Rape site, just
turn them in to there ISP or better still SpamCop. I have zero, zip, no ideal why you would go off on a rape site. Shit
they have been around from day one.

Am 100% not for Rape of any thing living or dead. By the way if you look am sure you can find pages that have dead people getting raped. Call your local D.A. and tell them you
want to turn in someone that is Fantasizing about Rape.

Sometimes I think most people are walking around with a head full of rocks and the rest of the time I know it.

Jim

[Labret]

You mean to tell me you have no purient fantasies or thoughts that would be deemed unacceptable by the general public?

Your a fucking liar.

I have fantasies about putting a cue-ball in a sock and beating everyone I see who listens to Limp Bizkit to death. Will I ever do it? No. Would I like to? Yes. HUGE difference.

blakkfrogg

Since I started this whole mess, let me say that I believe we al have 'wrong' thoughts in our lives. It's part of being a human being; whether we like it or not.

As for CP/KP, yes, a crime has already been committed, so it is DEFINITELY wrong. So, in order to get around breaking any moral or penal guidelines the purveyors of fake CP/KP find models as young as they can to take the place of all the kiddies.

OK, I'm fine with that.... as long as they don't lie and say the person in the pics is underage. If it's fantasy, let the fantasizer make up their own mind about the age. Just tell them it's a young girl and let them define the age.

And now for rape fantasy. Hmmm.... Film makers want to make their films as real as possible, right? So why not film a real rape and then say it was a fake one? Unlike with KP/CP where there is only so young that a model will look, there is no limitation to how 'real' a rape can look.

Am I saying people have not the right to fantasize? Hell no! I make money off of those damn fantasies!

What I don't want is to hear that some poor girl or guy was raped by a rogue underground pornographer looking to get the best angle on a violent penetration shot.

So, fantasize away. I just don't think 'rape depictions' belong on the web.

That's my personal opinion, so don't say I'm telling others what to do or how they can think.

Peaceful....


- Blakk Frogg

Kimmykim

Damn, now I'm starting to actually like Labret.

Incognito

I dont think You will. Problem is that the darker the fantasy is the more honest the seller should be unless it's a crime of course (CP).

In a way it's like mainstream spam in comparison with porn spam. If a surfer gets a spam from some mainstream fucker who sells for example CDs with music he just deletes it and treats it basicly ok, when the same surfer gets a PORN spam he goes crazy and sends emails back to SPAMCOP, his ISP and everyone else he can imagine including [email protected]
If a mainstream nonadult site changes Your homepage URL most people dont even notice it and dont complain, if a PORN site does that , well...it's like a fucking crime against society.

Same goes with rape fantasies in the net.
To survive and have less troubles rape fantasy webmasters should do everything twice as correct and honest as it should be in normal porn.

Take for instance this very case. Dont You all get spam emails? Of course You do, but You dont go to GFY to post them , right?

blakkfrogg

I see your point here. It would make sense that someone wlking the fine line would have to be a lot more careful.

No, I don't post every piece of spam I get (not enough time in the day!!! ). That is correct. But I don't want material of such a questionable nature being sent to me, either. I guess it's my opinion that links to and info about fetishes which are VERY person-specific and not widely appreciated by most do not belong distributed the same way as general stuff. Not that they should not have the right to distribute in that manner, because they have every right to use that manner -- just like everyone else.

Perhaps an opt-in mailing list would have been a bit more.... *shudder* .... tasteful. LOL

Time to go make some damn money. Catch you all later.

Peaceful.

- Blakk Frogg

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