We're buying paysites, we have money, no BS. - GoFuckYourself.com

12clicks · 10-03-2002, 08:04 AM

If you own a paysite (or groups of paysites) and are interested in selling
please contact me. Niche sites especially wanted.

Please email with the following information:

Site URLs
Total membership numbers
September's sales figures (as much data as possible ie. trials, rebills,
charge backs, refunds, fees, etc.)
Info on content (where you purchased, how much, what feeds do you use, fees
for your feeds, etc.)

Before sending any info please be sure your data is accurate. We will
perform due diligence and any inaccuracies will come to light and your site
will not be bought.

Also, please be realistic in your financial expectations. We will be
offering fair, realistic values based on sales and membership retention
data. We will not be valuing sites based on "potential" or the amount of
time, effort, or funds spent in design or development.

[email protected]

chodadog · 10-03-2002, 08:08 AM

So it begins..

McAttack · 10-03-2002, 08:10 AM

You can buy Pichunter for a quarter mill, but he won't give you any info on his site!

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 08:13 AM

12clicks,

On what do you base your purchase price?
6 months revenue? 8 months?

jimmyf · 10-03-2002, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
So it begins..

yes and more power to them.. FIRE sale time......

12clicks · 10-03-2002, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy
12clicks,

On what do you base your purchase price?
6 months revenue? 8 months?

Revenue plays a part. profits play a more important part.
CBs play a part. I look at everything. acquisition costs, everything.

chodadog · 10-03-2002, 08:16 AM

I think this has been a long time coming though. Nice timing though.

Martin · 10-03-2002, 08:20 AM

The Valtures are out..

12clicks · 10-03-2002, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
The Valtures are out..

I'd rather be a Vulture than a,....a,..um, whatever it is you are.

Certainly not a spelling champion.

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
The Valtures are out..

I call them smart businessmen.

buster · 10-03-2002, 08:39 AM

ummm lol hahaha gotta love america

steffie · 10-03-2002, 08:40 AM

There is always somebody making money at war!

I already got 2 emails asking if I am interested in selling my site and another email I received was a guy who asked, if he could run my site and give me MOST of my money.

The game has begun!

How about this

You keep your site and I manage it for you of course I will take a cut from you because I will put it under my billing sub-account!

No reason to sell! Just look at me as a USA sponsor for your sites

Yee Haa!

ps, had to edit a spelling mistake LOL - Damn German oops mean English

12clicks · 10-03-2002, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie

How about this

You keep your site and I manage it for you of course I will take a cut from you because I will put it under my billing sub-account!

No reason to sell! Just look at me as a USA sponsor for your sites

Yee Haa!

I already thought of that and discarded it as not workable.
Doing that will set you up as a 3rd party billing co. (in visa's eyes) and you'll lose everything, I'll lose my merchant account.

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:01 AM

hahahahaha,
12 clicks/Robert M00ney is buyin!
uh-uh-uh!

http://www.goodbadugly.info/cgi-bin/...c;f=2;t=000005

hyper · 10-03-2002, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
hahahahaha,
12 clicks/Robert M00ney is buyin!
uh-uh-uh!

http://www.goodbadugly.info/cgi-bin/...c;f=2;t=000005

i guess he wrote and had them remove the webpages listed in that thread..

the truth will never be known now

steffie · 10-03-2002, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

I already thought of that and discarded it as not workable.
Doing that will set you up as a 3rd party billing co. (in visa's eyes) and you'll lose everything, I'll lose my merchant account.

No actually all you do is make an inhouse contract with whatever site you are managing.

Basically you run the site and give them a commission! Like 70% etc...

You won't be considered a billing company. We have been doing that for 2 years. Somebody has a site, but doesn't want to run it anymore, we take them on our server put our billing on it and all they do is give us the content once per month. Each month they receive a commission ;-))

That is actually pretty common in the Amateur Market and on some Amateur Boards larger sites are already offering this to smaller sites.

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

i guess he wrote and had them remove the webpages listed in that thread..

the truth will never be known now

yeap, he can threaten lightweights who don't know them,
but they NEVER htreatened GBU because they know darn well that all they can do with GBU is suck DICKS,
right, Ronnie?

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:13 AM

the truth will never be known now
*********************************

oh yes it will...it is covered by GBU,
http://www.admittance.com/thinktank/board.html
and hopefully,
one day it will become a public court record

pimpdog3 · 10-03-2002, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
the truth will never be known now
*********************************

oh yes it will...it is covered by GBU,
http://www.admittance.com/thinktank/board.html
and hopefully,
one day it will become a public court record

Im getting a password popup on that link..

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 09:18 AM

Wow Serge, you really are spending alot of time on StandardInternet and its business relations.

If all is as you describe it to be, then why have they not been sued?

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpdog3

Im getting a password popup on that link..

this board is passwd protected and run by Webfather for domain owners, mostly non adult and has 10-20 webmasters fucked by 12 clicks and Standard Internet.

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy
Wow Serge, you really are spending alot of time on StandardInternet and its business relations.

If all is as you describe it to be, then why have they not been sued?

I love good questions and here is one for you:
if it wasn't true,
how come they don't sue GBU, me, etc?

I'd LOVE to bring the matter in public court of law, but...
they didn't screw me personally as of late....

so, smart guy,
can YOU answer MY question?

speculative answers will do...

pimpdog3 · 10-03-2002, 09:23 AM

I think alot of people that have been around for awhile already know how 12 dicks and his lil gangbang crew got their start in this business. I know i never ever in my life would reccommend them for anything.. at all... ever.

TheFLY · 10-03-2002, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
You won't be considered a billing company. We have been doing that for 2 years. Somebody has a site, but doesn't want to run it anymore, we take them on our server put our billing on it and all they do is give us the content once per month. Each month they receive a commission ;-))

Makes sense to me...

Hell just keep all the money and pay them with blowjobs and McDonalds gift certificates ;)

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

I love good questions and here is one for you:
if it wasn't true,
how come they don't sue GBU, me, etc?

I'd LOVE to bring the matter in public court of law, but...
they didn't screw me personally as of late....

so, smart guy,
can YOU answer MY question?

speculative answers will do...

There can be several reasons why they have not taken action against you and your site(s). But, if you would rip me off I would make sure that I get back what you owe me.

I would assume anyone being ripped off thinks that way?

No need to get all defensive and all, I like a good discussion ;-)

steffie · 10-03-2002, 09:27 AM

Come on now Fly !!!

Wendys!! Wendys!!

and the blowjob part hmmm? Maybe I should throw that into the contracts eh.

btw, nice meeting you ;-)

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpdog3
I think alot of people that have been around for awhile already know how 12 dicks and his lil gangbang crew got their start in this business. I know i never ever in my life would reccommend them for anything.. at all... ever.

no they don't....oldtimers KNOW it was me who put them into business to begin with,
somethign I regret to this day,
newbs have no clue how they started,
but...I'll be delighted to answer ANY questions about their internet porn and non-porn careers.

pimpdog3 · 10-03-2002, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

no they don't....oldtimers KNOW it was me who put them into business to begin with,
somethign I regret to this day,
newbs have no clue how they started,
but...I'll be delighted to answer ANY questions about their internet porn and non-porn careers.

welp, then lets lay it out, so we can help the newbs avoid this scumbag.. Im aware of the issue, but for the new comers, what is it exactly, that makes them such scumbags?

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy

There can be several reasons why they have not taken action against you and your site(s). But, if you would rip me off I would make sure that I get back what you owe me.

I would assume anyone being ripped off thinks that way?

No need to get all defensive and all, I like a good discussion ;-)

I am afraid you are delussional.
I can rip you any time I want, because I have money to fight you 'till you broke and you don't,
which I believe was the main reason Mark Welch removed his original site from
http://standardinternet.info

but...I am NOT Mark Welch,
even though he wouldn't lie on SI behalf under oath

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpdog3

welp, then lets lay it out, so we can help the newbs avoid this scumbag.. Im aware of the issue, but for the new comers, what is it exactly, that makes them such scumbags?

I'd say their "modus operandi" of ripping large traffic senders without informing them about it and tarnishing their reputation with baseless claims of fraud...

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

I am afraid you are delussional.
I can rip you any time I want, because I have money to fight you 'till you broke and you don't,
which I believe was the main reason Mark Welch removed his original site from
http://standardinternet.info

but...I am NOT Mark Welch,
even though he wouldn't lie on SI behalf under oath

I don't have money to fight back? Hmmm you are underestimating me my dear friend Serge. Although I have not posted on boards before GFY came around, I have been in this business for a long time even when you still had your raw click program and the days when Ynot was the centre of adult discussion. ;-)

The question is: Why would anyone take your word instead of StandardInternet's word?

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy

I don't have money to fight back? Hmmm you are underestimating me my dear friend Serge. Although I have not posted on boards before GFY came around, I have been in this business for a long time even when you still had your raw click program and the days when Ynot was the centre of adult discussion. ;-)

The question is: Why would anyone take your word instead of StandardInternet's word?

hahahahhaah,
I don't recall any "ControlThy" from old days,
what made you change your name?
I NEVER changed mine in all those years
;-)

as for "word",
I have no problem with court decission to make it stick whose word is the TRUTH...you think boys will invite me there?
I need some excitement in my dull life.

Quoth the Raven · 10-03-2002, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
So it begins..

And so the saga shall continue.

TheFLY · 10-03-2002, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
Come on now Fly !!!

Wendys!! Wendys!!

and the blowjob part hmmm? Maybe I should throw that into the contracts eh.

btw, nice meeting you ;-)

Personally I like Checkers...

All joking aside -- I was being serious tho... I couldn't mind being paid other ways (ie: groceries/catering delivered to my door, living expenses, etc...) less taxes for me...

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

hahahahhaah,
I don't recall any "ControlThy" from old days,
what made you change your name?
I NEVER changed mine in all those years
;-)

as for "word",
I have no problem with court decission to make it stick whose word is the TRUTH...you think boys will invite me there?
I need some excitement in my dull life.

Ah like I said, I was not involved in the sport of message board posting before GFY opened its doors.

I am curious if Ron will respond to this thread, but sadly everytime YOU pop up he stops posting.

theking · 10-03-2002, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy

Ah like I said, I was not involved in the sport of message board posting before GFY opened its doors.

I am curious if Ron will respond to this thread, but sadly everytime YOU pop up he stops posting.

He cannot handle the truth!

Kimmykim · 10-03-2002, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

no they don't....oldtimers KNOW it was me who put them into business to begin with,
somethign I regret to this day,
newbs have no clue how they started,
but...I'll be delighted to answer ANY questions about their internet porn and non-porn careers.

hahahaha you fool, everyone else KNOWS it was them that shut you down too.

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy

Ah like I said, I was not involved in the sport of message board posting before GFY opened its doors.

I am curious if Ron will respond to this thread, but sadly everytime YOU pop up he stops posting.

of course he does....truth hurts and he can't fight the truth with his creator.

have you seen him stop flopping his mouth due to ANYBODY's else postings? I say I am UNIQUE
;-)

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

hahahaha you fool, everyone else KNOWS it was them that shut you down too.

Kimmy, darling,
thats what they want you to believe....c'mon,
you forgot our long time friendship and ICQs from you mile long.
;-))

you and the rest of nobody-wannabees can only suck my dick
;-)

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

of course he does....truth hurts and he can't fight the truth with his creator.

have you seen him stop flopping his mouth due to ANYBODY's else postings? I say I am UNIQUE
;-)

Yes you are certainly UNIQUE.

You are a pain in the ass I am sure ;-)

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy

Yes you are certainly UNIQUE.

You are a pain in the ass I am sure ;-)

I don't think so....
I respect Robert M00ney a great deal for his BRAIN and he'd disagree with you.

insidethegame · 10-03-2002, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

no they don't....oldtimers KNOW it was me who put them into business to begin with,
somethign I regret to this day,
newbs have no clue how they started,
but...I'll be delighted to answer ANY questions about their internet porn and non-porn careers.

"oldtimers KNOW it was me who put them into business to begin with,
somethign I regret to this day,"

Serge Yishia says the same about you;)

Mr Cheeks · 10-03-2002, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
hahahahaha,
12 clicks/Robert M00ney is buyin!
uh-uh-uh!

http://www.goodbadugly.info/cgi-bin/...c;f=2;t=000005

thanx for the link doo... this some good shit http://www.lukeford.com/stars/male/serge_birbair.htm , factual or not.

12clicks · 10-03-2002, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy

I am curious if Ron will respond to this thread, but sadly everytime YOU pop up he stops posting.

haha, sorry. I was at lunch.

I don't respond to Serge because he's been singing the same song since the day we threw him out of business.
I reply once in a while so that he looks like a fool then just go back to ignoring him.

Why spend too much time arguing with a one trick pony who's trick has been over for years?

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insidethegame

"oldtimers KNOW it was me who put them into business to begin with,
somethign I regret to this day,"

Serge Yishia says the same about you;)

this is another bullshit...
because this is last e-mail I got from my friend Yishai:
"Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:10:16 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000

Hey buddy...
Back from a vacation in Curacao...
My first 10 days vacation ever....

Back to hell...
How you been?
Send my love to Sue.

Take care.
Thanx,
Y"

does it sound like he is disapointed?

uh-uh-uh,
I LOVE Yishai and it's mutual
;-)

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alchemist

thanx for the link doo... this some good shit http://www.lukeford.com/stars/male/serge_birbair.htm , factual or not.

50% of it is absolute truth, the rest is slightly exaturated
;-)

Serge_Oprano · 10-03-2002, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

haha, sorry. I was at lunch.

I don't respond to Serge because he's been singing the same song since the day we threw him out of business.
I reply once in a while so that he looks like a fool then just go back to ignoring him.

Why spend too much time arguing with a one trick pony who's trick has been over for years?

you could have skipped a few lunches,
mirror is not the best way to look at your dick.

Fletch XXX · 10-03-2002, 10:09 AM

Mojo · 10-03-2002, 10:10 AM

Serge,

Your obsession with me is bordering on mental instability.

You and I have not spoken in a year.

You're welcome to post my real name (Robert hahahahahaha) hundreds of times if you like. I've noticed all the pages you're creating with my name and address so that Google will index them. I saw the one page on Cotac.com where you had my name written about 40 times. Very disturbing and sad....

I'm sorry you have not had much success in the last few years. I never wish ill will toward anyone. But I really don't understand your smear campaign or what you hope to gain by it.

You're quite obsessed and a few of us who know you think maybe you should refocus your energies on work rather than wringing your hands over the past, present and future accomplishments of Standard Internet.

Also, your "Why don't they sue" nonsence may impress the newbies, but to persons who are of above average intelligence you simply come across as bitter. Suing for libel is almost impossible to win and simply comsumes dollars. It also serves no point against a person such as you.

You keep on posting smearing us. At the end of the day we'll get larger and more profitable and you'll continue to scratch your head and wonder why no one will do any real business with you since 1998.

Good luck to you Serge. I don't understand you, but if it make you feel better about yourself to smear me and SI than by all means go ahead.

BradShaw · 10-03-2002, 10:15 AM

Hi, my name is Serge. I am a biter old man since I am no longer a player on the Internet. I post peoples emails, like my good friend Yishai's.

10-03-2002, 08:04 AM	#1
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,788	We're buying paysites, we have money, no BS. If you own a paysite (or groups of paysites) and are interested in selling please contact me. Niche sites especially wanted. Please email with the following information: Site URLs Total membership numbers September's sales figures (as much data as possible ie. trials, rebills, charge backs, refunds, fees, etc.) Info on content (where you purchased, how much, what feeds do you use, fees for your feeds, etc.) Before sending any info please be sure your data is accurate. We will perform due diligence and any inaccuracies will come to light and your site will not be bought. Also, please be realistic in your financial expectations. We will be offering fair, realistic values based on sales and membership retention data. We will not be valuing sites based on "potential" or the amount of time, effort, or funds spent in design or development. [email protected] __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

10-03-2002, 08:10 AM	#3
McAttack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 625	You can buy Pichunter for a quarter mill, but he won't give you any info on his site! __________________ You know Teen Kelly converts like crazy.

10-03-2002, 08:39 AM	#11
buster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 459	ummm lol hahaha gotta love america __________________ CUSTOM SETUP FOR EACH WEBMASTER !! JUST ASK ICQ 133566063 FREE CONTENT

10-03-2002, 08:40 AM	#12
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	There is always somebody making money at war! I already got 2 emails asking if I am interested in selling my site and another email I received was a guy who asked, if he could run my site and give me MOST of my money. The game has begun! How about this You keep your site and I manage it for you of course I will take a cut from you because I will put it under my billing sub-account! No reason to sell! Just look at me as a USA sponsor for your sites Yee Haa! ps, had to edit a spelling mistake LOL - Damn German oops mean English __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm Last edited by steffie; 10-03-2002 at 08:42 AM..

10-03-2002, 09:27 AM	#26
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	Come on now Fly !!! Wendys!! Wendys!! and the blowjob part hmmm? Maybe I should throw that into the contracts eh. btw, nice meeting you ;-) __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

10-03-2002, 08:08 AM	#2
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	So it begins..

10-03-2002, 08:13 AM	#4
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	12clicks, On what do you base your purchase price? 6 months revenue? 8 months?

10-03-2002, 08:16 AM	#7
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I think this has been a long time coming though. Nice timing though.

10-03-2002, 08:20 AM	#8
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	The Valtures are out..

10-03-2002, 09:01 AM	#14
Serge_Oprano So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,820	hahahahaha, 12 clicks/Robert M00ney is buyin! uh-uh-uh! http://www.goodbadugly.info/cgi-bin/...c;f=2;t=000005

10-03-2002, 09:13 AM	#18
Serge_Oprano So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,820	the truth will never be known now ********************************* oh yes it will...it is covered by GBU, http://www.admittance.com/thinktank/board.html and hopefully, one day it will become a public court record

10-03-2002, 09:18 AM	#20
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	Wow Serge, you really are spending alot of time on StandardInternet and its business relations. If all is as you describe it to be, then why have they not been sued?

10-03-2002, 09:23 AM	#23
pimpdog3 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 652	I think alot of people that have been around for awhile already know how 12 dicks and his lil gangbang crew got their start in this business. I know i never ever in my life would reccommend them for anything.. at all... ever.

10-03-2002, 10:09 AM	#48
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10-03-2002, 10:10 AM	#49
Mojo Used to be a Legend Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 356	Serge, Your obsession with me is bordering on mental instability. You and I have not spoken in a year. You're welcome to post my real name (Robert hahahahahaha) hundreds of times if you like. I've noticed all the pages you're creating with my name and address so that Google will index them. I saw the one page on Cotac.com where you had my name written about 40 times. Very disturbing and sad.... I'm sorry you have not had much success in the last few years. I never wish ill will toward anyone. But I really don't understand your smear campaign or what you hope to gain by it. You're quite obsessed and a few of us who know you think maybe you should refocus your energies on work rather than wringing your hands over the past, present and future accomplishments of Standard Internet. Also, your "Why don't they sue" nonsence may impress the newbies, but to persons who are of above average intelligence you simply come across as bitter. Suing for libel is almost impossible to win and simply comsumes dollars. It also serves no point against a person such as you. You keep on posting smearing us. At the end of the day we'll get larger and more profitable and you'll continue to scratch your head and wonder why no one will do any real business with you since 1998. Good luck to you Serge. I don't understand you, but if it make you feel better about yourself to smear me and SI than by all means go ahead.

10-03-2002, 10:15 AM	#50
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Hi, my name is Serge. I am a biter old man since I am no longer a player on the Internet. I post peoples emails, like my good friend Yishai's. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com