Obama's "Wealth Redistribution" Plan in Laymens' Terms - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

stickyfingerz · 10-30-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

Obama has changed it, now its $200,000 once he gets in maybe it will be $100,000?

Biden already dropped it to 150k or 100k forget which now during his last debacle of an appearance.

Btw for those that do not know.

If you are against Obama you are

A. a racist.
B. a neo con
C. Someone not to do biz with.

I am making my own list of people that say they will not do biz with someone over another's political opinions. its pathetic.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 10-30-2008, 12:22 PM

What I got out of this story is that you better make sure not to get the same waiter again if you go back to that restaurant.

wig · 10-30-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

What I got out of this story is that you better make sure not to get the same waiter again if you go back to that restaurant.

marketsmart · 10-30-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Biden already dropped it to 150k or 100k forget which now during his last debacle of an appearance.

Btw for those that do not know.

If you are against Obama you are

A. a racist.
B. a neo con
C. Someone not to do biz with.

I am making my own list of people that say they will not do biz with someone over another's political opinions. its pathetic.

if people only knew that you voted for Obama...

Doctor Dre · 10-30-2008, 12:28 PM

That's it, republicans are now officially retarded.

PornNewz · 10-30-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Remember, the wealthy are mobile. They can hop on a jet and relocate easily.

As wealthy people flee or find shelters to avoid Obama's greedy fingers in their wallets, his tax base may erode, and he may be forced to go even lower.

jesus your posts just get dumber. (and I thought that would be impossible after some of your past ones.)

directfiesta · 10-30-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

In a local restaurant my server had on an Obama ?08 pin, I laughed as he had given away his political preference. Since he supported Obama, I figured I would use Obama's plan on him to see if he really agrees with it or is just another lemming following the "Obama Herd".

So when the bill came I decided not to tip him and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept that he supported and proudly displayed on his button.

He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone whom I deemed more in need; the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight mumbling bad things under his breath.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $15 and told him to thank the server inside as I?ve decided he could use the money more and that is the ideology the server supported and believed in. The homeless guy was extremely grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.

sure ... you gave $ 15.00 ...

J. Falcon · 10-30-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

What I got out of this story is that you better make sure not to get the same waiter again if you go back to that restaurant.

J. Falcon · 10-30-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

That's it, republicans are now officially retarded.

It's hard to argue against that point.

pocketkangaroo · 10-30-2008, 03:15 PM

Amazing how so many people have no knowledge in civics or economics. They both have progressive tax systems. McCain wants to give health insurance rebates to people. He wants to buy up shitty mortgages from poor people. They are both redistributing wealth, just as every President in our nation's history has.

If a 4% tax difference in the highest tax bracket makes one a socialist and the other a free market capitalist, your view of the country is a tad distorted.

tony286 · 10-30-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Amazing how so many people have no knowledge in civics or economics. They both have progressive tax systems. McCain wants to give health insurance rebates to people. He wants to buy up shitty mortgages from poor people. They are both redistributing wealth, just as every President in our nation's history has.

If a 4% tax difference in the highest tax bracket makes one a socialist and the other a free market capitalist, your view of the country is a tad distorted.

Well said and what makes it really amazing is most of people complaining here arent even close to that bracket. Its like do you like voting against your own best interests?

pocketkangaroo · 10-30-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

Subprime loans lead to bad mortgages that lead to bad securities that lead to a big fat shit on Wall Street that had to be bailed out and just because Bush was in office during the time of the bailout it's automatically his fault?

Remember this, Community Reinvestment Act? That was the catalyst of this economic crisis but it's Bush's fault now because he had to bail it out. Fucking classic.

The Community Reinvestment Act accounts for only a few percent of the bad subprime loans in this country. The overwhelming majority of the bad subprime loans were made by investment banks and mortgage lenders who were not under the umbrella of CRA. Only 1 of the top 25 subprime lenders in this country are regulated under the CRA.

What you posted was a lie. It shows you have zero understanding of how the financial system works. Ask a broker one day how this works before you continue to make a fool of yourself on issues.

saucygirl · 10-30-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

In a local restaurant my server had on an Obama ?08 pin, I laughed as he had given away his political preference. Since he supported Obama, I figured I would use Obama's plan on him to see if he really agrees with it or is just another lemming following the "Obama Herd".

So when the bill came I decided not to tip him and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept that he supported and proudly displayed on his button.

He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone whom I deemed more in need; the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight mumbling bad things under his breath.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $15 and told him to thank the server inside as I?ve decided he could use the money more and that is the ideology the server supported and believed in. The homeless guy was extremely grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.

While I respectfully disagree with you since it is your right to have an opposing position on Obama and his potential voters I don't think it is fair for you to place all of Obama's supporters into clueless lemmings. I did my research on both candidates and as an independent voter made up my mind to vote for the candidate with the best judgment and vision. McCain's choice of Palin was a reckless political move that has positioned this woman entirely too close to the presidency. That in and of itself was very bad judgment and in no way puts "country first" but more "campaign first". Not to mention his prior record of voting against minorities and women's issues was abysmally poor to say the least. I used factcheck.org to find the candidate that came closest to addressing issues and facts rather than mudslinging which McCain is infamous for.

As far as "spreading the wealth" is concerned you need to see the entire you tube video of Obama's conversation with Joe the Plumber to understand his take on how the middle class need a tax break. It's an easy concept to understand so allow me to break it down for you...When people (middle class) have more income then they will spend more on goods and/or services thus STIMULATING the economy. So lets say Joe the Plumber has saved an additional $2000 dollars in taxes then he is likely to spend it on a down payment for a new car. Then GM makes some $$$.

See? that was easy!

Also, I have some server friends and I suggest you DO NOT go back to that restaurant unless you want to eat food that has been tainted in some disgusting way.

saucygirl · 10-30-2008, 03:29 PM

There's also the little savings and loan scandal called....the Keating 5! Which would have been the Keating 4 without Mr. McCain's involvement.

pocketkangaroo · 10-30-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saucygirl

Also, I have some server friends and I suggest you DO NOT go back to that restaurant unless you want to eat food that has been tainted in some disgusting way.

He didn't write that. He just copy and pasted it from another site. Don't expect many independent thoughts to come from partisans.

saucygirl · 10-30-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

What I got out of this story is that you better make sure not to get the same waiter again if you go back to that restaurant.

Waiters talk and I'm sure he's told his cronies to make sure his next visit will be awful. It's nasty what some pissed off servers will do.

woj · 10-30-2008, 03:59 PM

Redistribution of wealth is great, as long as it's not your money getting redistributed. The $250k income level is pretty arbitrary, if the cut off income was chosen to be $25k instead, most people wouldn't be so thrilled about the whole "wealth redistribution" plan

IllTestYourGirls · 10-30-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Redistribution of wealth is great, as long as it's not your money getting redistributed. The $250k income level is pretty arbitrary, if the cut off income was chosen to be $25k instead, most people wouldn't be so thrilled about the whole "wealth redistribution" plan

Bingo. Im under the $250k line and I can not see the moral justification of allowing the government to take those peoples money by gun point and handing it over to me. I am sure if I really was hard up I could find something to sell for the $500 I would get under obamas plan.

And YES McCain and Obama are the same as many people pointed out. So why are you voting for either?

Agent 488 · 10-30-2008, 04:12 PM

looks like you had no problem redistributing that story from the original owner:

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&cl...Searc h&meta=

BobG · 10-30-2008, 04:22 PM

yeah, the Obama supporters are such fucking sheep. They just can't understand that "redistribution" of wealth is only ok when it goes to the wealthy and they can't see how well that has worked for the past 8 years. God, what a bunch of dumb asses. Why can't the middle class understand that a tax cut will not help them, only tax cuts for the wealthy will make things better for them.
To use your analogy, under McCains plan, you would have given that $15 to the owner of the restaurant or even the owner of the strip mall it was in.

_Richard_ · 10-30-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

You mean the bail out because of the fucked up position the Democraps put us in with the bullshit Bill Clinton implemented before leaving office and the Freddie Mack kick backs Osama was receiving by pushing through sub prime loans?

The Democraps will ruin the U.S.

from what i figured out in 5 minutes of reading, everyone is responsible for your sub-prime mortgage bs

woj · 10-30-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BobG

To use your analogy, under McCains plan, you would have given that $15 to the owner of the restaurant or even the owner of the strip mall it was in.

But... what if the restaurant was in poor financial shape, there were rumors that it might close down any day now, and it happened to be your favorite restaurant, one you eat out at almost every day? You really don't want that restaurant to shut down, and so you have 3 choices of who to give the money to:
a. guy pen handling outside
b. waitress
c. restaurant owner

Which of these 3 choices will help to achieve your goal of making sure the restaurant doesn't shut down?

Matt 26z · 10-30-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved the money more.

...

Think hard when you go to the polls to vote, people. Don't be a lemming and jump on the Obama bandwagon. Read about this guy and understand how it will affect your life and your business.

The problem for McCain is that 95% of America (not a made up statistic) is the bum in your example.

Matt 26z · 10-30-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

But... what if the restaurant was in poor financial shape, there were rumors that it might close down any day now, and it happened to be your favorite restaurant, one you eat out at almost every day? You really don't want that restaurant to shut down, and so you have 3 choices of who to give the money to:
a. guy pen handling outside
b. waitress
c. restaurant owner

Which of these 3 choices will help to achieve your goal of making sure the restaurant doesn't shut down?

In the sorry state of the restaurant, is the owner profiting above or below $250,000 a year?

What is the income level of the average customer? Which tax plan gives them more money to spend at the restaurant? Including tips, which help keep employees from barking at the owner for a raise.

stickyfingerz · 10-30-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The problem for McCain is that 95% of America (not a made up statistic) is the bum in your example.

95% IS a made up number.

BobG · 10-30-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

But... what if the restaurant was in poor financial shape, there were rumors that it might close down any day now, and it happened to be your favorite restaurant, one you eat out at almost every day? You really don't want that restaurant to shut down, and so you have 3 choices of who to give the money to:
a. guy pen handling outside
b. waitress
c. restaurant owner

Which of these 3 choices will help to achieve your goal of making sure the restaurant doesn't shut down?

Might not be in such bad shape if 95% of the people had a bit more money to spend on eating out here and there. We've tried the other way for the past few years and it doesn't seem to be working. Let's try something else.

woj · 10-30-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobG

Might not be in such bad shape if 95% of the people had a bit more money to spend on eating out here and there. We've tried the other way for the past few years and it doesn't seem to be working. Let's try something else.

You might be right, but one must consider the consequences of the "restaurant" (economy) shutting down... if "restaurant" shuts down then all 3 people involved are screwed, panhandler would need to find a new place to panhandle at, waitress is out of a job, and restaurant owner is out of income too. All 3 are then in pretty hopeless situation, especially considering "restaurants" in other cities (countries) are in similar or even worse financial position...

tony286 · 10-30-2008, 06:43 PM

The bush tax cuts made the rich richer but wages dropped. Sorry tickle down doesn't work.Sara palin taking money from oil companies giving to the citizens of alaska isnt redistributing wealth?

pocketkangaroo · 10-30-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

The bush tax cuts made the rich richer but wages dropped. Sorry tickle down doesn't work.Sara palin taking money from oil companies giving to the citizens of alaska isnt redistributing wealth?

Only counts if Democrats do it.

germ · 10-30-2008, 08:20 PM

Try thinking for yourself and doing some research. You really shouldnt base your vote on chain letters and myspace bulletins, which that obviously is.

robfantasy · 10-30-2008, 08:49 PM

here is the real answer.

every politician is full of shit, they tell you whatever the polls say you want to hear.

looks at their character, associations, passed voting records, donors

thats when you can predict what their real agenda is.

obama DOES want to redistribute wealth in the layman terms of give more to the poor to help "his people"

read between the lines you fucking sheep

- Jesus Christ - · 10-30-2008, 08:53 PM

Got to love oversimplification of complex issues by people who clearly don't even understand them in the first place.

tony286 · 10-30-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy

here is the real answer.

every politician is full of shit, they tell you whatever the polls say you want to hear.

looks at their character, associations, passed voting records, donors

thats when you can predict what their real agenda is.

obama DOES want to redistribute wealth in the layman terms of give more to the poor to help "his people"

read between the lines you fucking sheep

So Sarah's hubby belonging to a party that wanted to break away from the united states is ok? Or taking from the money from oil companies and handing out checks isnt redistributing the wealth? OR Mccain taking 50k from Charles Keatings law firm is ok ? Seems a little more redistributing wealth then setting percentages back to clinton rates when fortunes were made and wages were up. Does anyone from the right ever use facts not pundit talking points or show how an actual plan that is better? Wait they dont have a plan I forgot.

robfantasy · 10-30-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

So Sarah's hubby belonging to a party that wanted to break away from the united states is ok? Or taking from the money from oil companies and handing out checks isnt redistributing the wealth? OR Mccain taking 50k from Charles Keatings law firm is ok ? Seems a little more redistributing wealth then setting percentages back to clinton rates when fortunes were made and wages were up. Does anyone from the right ever use facts not pundit talking points or show how an actual plan that is better? Wait they dont have a plan I forgot.

the lesser of 2 evils is mccain

im not voting for mccain

im voting against obama

jawanda · 10-30-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Bingo. Im under the $250k line and I can not see the moral justification of allowing the government to take those peoples money by gun point and handing it over to me. I am sure if I really was hard up I could find something to sell for the $500 I would get under obamas plan.

And YES McCain and Obama are the same as many people pointed out. So why are you voting for either?

Dude ....

No one is going to take from the rich and give to the poor here. There will be a slight tax increase (or a repeal of tax cuts depending how you look at it) for people in a certain tax bracket, however it's not like this money is going to be funneling directly into the hands of 'poor' people.

tony286 · 10-30-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy

the lesser of 2 evils is mccain

how ? Are you not paying attention to the economy?

tony286 · 10-30-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jawanda

Dude ....

No one is going to take from the rich and give to the poor here. There will be a slight tax increase (or a repeal of tax cuts depending how you look at it) for people in a certain tax bracket, however it's not like this money is going to be funneling directly into the hands of 'poor' people.

Thank you also you cant fight terror on the chinese credit card forever.

NewbieNudes · 10-30-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I'm gonna say this in here because it amazes me that the "spreading the wealth" comment is still making it's rounds. Are you retarded? You do realize that they already spread your wealth around right? lol...what the fuck do you think taxes are for in the first place?

Since so many are NOT in favor of paying a little higher taxes, and so many people seem to have such a great understanding of how our economy works, how would you propose we pay down the deficit? How should America go about paying for the amount of debt we now have? Bring home the troops...oh wait...can't do that, we'd be defeatists. Raise taxes...oh wait...can't do that, we'd be socialists. Borrow it from China...oh wait...we did that already for the stimulus package then turned right around and bought chinese made products, basically giving them their money right back while still owing them the principle.

Ok, I'm out of ideas. Should we wish for the money? Or ask Santa?

Nevermind...I got it. We'll leave it in god's hands. Jesus will save us all...

This post = BRILLIANT

psili · 10-30-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy

the lesser of 2 evils is mccain

im not voting for mccain

im voting against obama

Your judgment of "evil" is inverse to mine.
How did you arrive that McCain is less evil than Obama?
I'm actually quite curious as it's sometimes enlightening reading from both sides.

BobG · 10-31-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy

here is the real answer.

every politician is full of shit, they tell you whatever the polls say you want to hear.

looks at their character, associations, passed voting records, donors

thats when you can predict what their real agenda is.

obama DOES want to redistribute wealth in the layman terms of give more to the poor to help "his people"

read between the lines you fucking sheep

This post is an excellent illustration that the Republican's and McCain's campaign's use of fear mongering and race baiting does work and how it comes full circle.

buck30 · 10-31-2008, 01:43 AM

So, do you fuckers think that if a Socialist(Obama) gets in the onerous laws against our industry will magically disappear? All of these fucking child protection laws were voted aye's by dems and repub's when they came up, all for the sake of 'protecting children' I'm not a McCain fan, and quite frankly, I am ready to let these democrats take over both houses of congress and the white house just for a sick, evil experiment. See you in two years 5 days beeeatches.

By the way, I thought all the libs moved to canada or aus after 2000? how on earth can Obama win? Progress/Change

Matt 26z · 10-31-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

95% IS a made up number.

You better contact the government and let them know their data is wrong then...

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/03200.../new06_000.htm

Matt 26z · 10-31-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by buck30

So, do you fuckers think that if a Socialist(Obama) gets in the onerous laws against our industry will magically disappear? All of these fucking child protection laws were voted aye's by dems and repub's when they came up, all for the sake of 'protecting children'

What laws against the industry? They've all been struck down by the Supreme Court when tested. You can thank the liberal leaning justices for that.

The next president could appoint up to three justices. Do you want McCain putting in ultra conservatives that do not consider adult materials to be protected free speech? Things could change real quick around here if that happens.

Matt 26z · 10-31-2008, 02:03 AM

And let's not forget how the Aussies are getting a mandatory internet filter against all porn and what their government deems "controversial" material. That wouldn't fly in the US...... under the current Supreme Court makeup that is. But who knows what it looks like if McCain appoints the wrong people.

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woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	Redistribution of wealth is great, as long as it's not your money getting redistributed. The $250k income level is pretty arbitrary, if the cut off income was chosen to be $25k instead, most people wouldn't be so thrilled about the whole "wealth redistribution" plan __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	The bush tax cuts made the rich richer but wages dropped. Sorry tickle down doesn't work.Sara palin taking money from oil companies giving to the citizens of alaska isnt redistributing wealth? Last edited by tony299; 10-30-2008 at 06:45 PM..

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robfantasy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Medellin, Colombia Posts: 6,445	here is the real answer. every politician is full of shit, they tell you whatever the polls say you want to hear. looks at their character, associations, passed voting records, donors thats when you can predict what their real agenda is. obama DOES want to redistribute wealth in the layman terms of give more to the poor to help "his people" read between the lines you fucking sheep __________________ Looking to speak w/ high volume nutra CPA affiliates or networks... msg me

10-30-2008, 03:15 PM	#60
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Amazing how so many people have no knowledge in civics or economics. They both have progressive tax systems. McCain wants to give health insurance rebates to people. He wants to buy up shitty mortgages from poor people. They are both redistributing wealth, just as every President in our nation's history has. If a 4% tax difference in the highest tax bracket makes one a socialist and the other a free market capitalist, your view of the country is a tad distorted.

10-30-2008, 04:12 PM	#69
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	looks like you had no problem redistributing that story from the original owner: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&cl...Searc h&meta=

10-30-2008, 04:22 PM	#70
BobG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,274	yeah, the Obama supporters are such fucking sheep. They just can't understand that "redistribution" of wealth is only ok when it goes to the wealthy and they can't see how well that has worked for the past 8 years. God, what a bunch of dumb asses. Why can't the middle class understand that a tax cut will not help them, only tax cuts for the wealthy will make things better for them. To use your analogy, under McCains plan, you would have given that $15 to the owner of the restaurant or even the owner of the strip mall it was in.

10-30-2008, 08:20 PM	#80
germ ( o Y o ) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,108	Try thinking for yourself and doing some research. You really shouldnt base your vote on chain letters and myspace bulletins, which that obviously is.

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buck30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 862	So, do you fuckers think that if a Socialist(Obama) gets in the onerous laws against our industry will magically disappear? All of these fucking child protection laws were voted aye's by dems and repub's when they came up, all for the sake of 'protecting children' I'm not a McCain fan, and quite frankly, I am ready to let these democrats take over both houses of congress and the white house just for a sick, evil experiment. See you in two years 5 days beeeatches. By the way, I thought all the libs moved to canada or aus after 2000? how on earth can Obama win? Progress/Change __________________ AZNewGirl.com DesertCuties.com

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	And let's not forget how the Aussies are getting a mandatory internet filter against all porn and what their government deems "controversial" material. That wouldn't fly in the US...... under the current Supreme Court makeup that is. But who knows what it looks like if McCain appoints the wrong people.