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Pirates bay on trial
nor sure if anyone posted this or not its a interesting read
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...-bay-crew.html |
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they have nice shirt logos
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new laws in scandinavia...
they are looking at a few years behind bars if the news sites are correct |
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Interesting read, thanks.
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lol.. they say we are not crooks, .. but yet call themselves Pirates.. clowns
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one thing you HAVE to admit, those dudes and that site are making more history than they even realize
100 years from now when all is said and done, they WILL be on the history books...I would venture to guess they will even be taught as "world history" in schools
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Lets hope that soon they will be Ass pirates
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Technically, you could say that they're not really guilty of anything. Morally and ethically, they are bastards, and I hope they get what's coming to them.
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since that time product placement has become significantly more prevelant canada recognized things like a piracy tax turns what would normally be piracy into a licienced behavior. Which means they had the potential to argue the exact same thing is true with product placement. add the fact that timeshifting to a cloud has been legitimized (50+% of tv shows) and the 1 download = 1 lost sale has been repealed too. this is going to be an uphill battle for the procecution to win this one. They might be able to villify them enough to get them convicted on the first trial but that will not work when it is infront of a judge, instead of jury. |
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Stocklhom ?
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Despite all their pioneering talk, all they will end up doing is cause the pendulum to swing in the other direction hard and the net will be much less free-wheeling place than it was before once this all gets sorted out.
Just thought I would point that out to everyone who supports these clowns. The owners of the pirate bay get their fame and ego boost but they are actually hurting your cause if you support file sharing.
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Wonder if they will update their legal page and continue to be smartasses about being served this time.
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interesting to say the least.. this should be a landmark of sorts when it pans out.
Gottfrid looks like friggin Redbeard the Pirate. ;)
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Long live TPB!!
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Owner is a great guy.
Had lunch and wine with him when he was in the US last. He is scared of the dentist but not the law cracking down on him.. I have his phone number. Will sell it to the higest bidder. I can assure you if things get to hot the guy can easily disappear.
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They are fucking idiots.
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The good part is they are having to "timeshift" a shitload of money (that they don't deserve to have anyway) to pay their legal expenses! lol So I guess they will be "timeshifting" their money from their bank account to a "cloud" which will then rain down on the biggest crooks of all: Lawyers I hope it costs them every bit as much as they made off the backs of other people's hard work while they openly laughed about it on their website. Their arrogance in posting all that trash talk is going to haunt them when they are in front of a judge. ![]() Then they will have "fair use" of some big black cock when they accidentally drop the soap in the shower and have a big load of prison sperm timeshifted into their clouds. ![]() |
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That assuming they lose this time, and considering how "likely" it was that they would lose last time. I would not hold my breath. |
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PB will be running for many years to come.
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very important case.
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They're walking at the edge of a cliff. The net may change in many ways depending on what happens with this case. They got big balls, that's a fact..
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retroactively ?
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PIRATEBAY FTW!!!!
(actually i prefer demonoid for all my 'stealing your shit' needs...) |
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bump for a great website
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Nice read.
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The only reason they are going down is because they are so cocky. Foreign countries hate the US and don't appreciate US companies/government policies trying to influence them.
But lawyers have huge egos. If you call yourself the PIRATE bay, and you don't have a DMCA policy, and you say "in your face" to any legal notice you get and mock them on your website, then some lawyers are going to make it their mission to bring you down. Ultimately, the lawyers know that it will do absolutely nothing to stop piracy, but they found themselves some people to make an example of. I mean, the pirate bay was just asking for it. And they still have no respect. He called the prosecutor a clown and wondered if he passed fifth-grade math. If they said, we believe what we are doing is legal, for fair use, time-shifting, not actually distributing the files, etc and responded to DMCA requests instead of mocking them, 100% they would not be on trial today. They might get sued by the MPAA in a US court, and they could just ignore that. If it is a jury trial, and the jury decides to follow the LAW, they could get convicted. But if the jury decides to follow their own thoughts, and a good number of the jury will be supporting The Pirate Bay, then they will be acquitted, and Hollywood will shit its pants because it will be an In Your Face and let them operate forever without any more problems.
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That being said, their antics could allow them to be villified enough that a jury would choose to stretch the law to extend to "letting" google index their site, and convict them of the inducement charge. but even if they actually do that the pirate bay could argue
the absolute worst thing for the MPAA/copyright holders is that pirate bay would be forced to win their freedom by making one of these points. Because if they do, all torrent sites, world wide would be legal. |
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That being said, if they do what they did the last time, one of the guys will hire a really good lawyer, pass all the information to the others. And the remaining 3 will demand PD, for no other reason then to force the government to pay both sides of the trial. basically the PD would have to be paid by the government, to review/comment on the work of the "real" lawyer. |
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Yesterday I was talking about this with a friend and we came to the conclusion you can also find torrent links and Warez in Google.com
So how about sites like Google? Will they also filter censor illegal stuff soon? |
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After the first day the defense was victorious. The prosecutor has removed a lot of accusation points and the piratebay team is way more knowledgable in the technology behind it then the prosecutor team and the police technicians.
It looks like the piratebay will live on and that the owners will be freed of all charges. This may sound bad for us but in reality this is a victory for freedom in general and the continuum of the free and unregulated internet. |
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You idiots can try and spin it as much as you want. Bottom line is, they facilitate the theft of content, and make a huge profit doing so.
I cant wait till they get thrown in jail and get ass raped by the middle-eastern gangsters running the inside of the Swedish jails |
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I hope their next version of TPB will be a "prison inmate P2P", where those dudes get forced to smugle a Cellphone in to the prison by hiding it in their anus. I'm not against P2P. I use it to distribute our 4x4 movies. But im against idiots (like you) who think its just fun and games, when sites like TPB make a huge profit facilitating the theft of other peoples content. |
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IF they convicted of that, it falls into the same catagory as fraud/money laundering crime, which will be club fed not the cellblock with murders/drug dealers and bank robbers. |
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"assisting making available" is just another word for facilitating, and that is how I have descriped them from day1 Like O.J, Joe Francis and Max Hardcore, they are fucking naive if they think they can get away with that forever. If they had any brains, they would have done like Janus Friis, build it and sell it to the people that needs it/provided the content that made it possible. But they dont. They are a bunch of kids who think they can walk on water, due to the predated swedish legal system. Now the legal system was updated, and they will be run in to the ground. Maybe not this time, but in the end they will. They always do. Look at what happened to Christian Riesen aka. "Simon Moon" from Gowenna/Sharereactor. The same will happen to TPB and anyone that follows in the future |
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All the pirate bay has to do is take a book (copyrighted material) put it thru a shredder, put the pieces in a garbage bag. Then they point out torrent breaks the file up in a similar way, spread those incomplete and non functioning pieces all across the network. then all they have to say is "if you were to extend edonkey ruling to a torrent you would have to make the act of shredding copyright material the criminal act of making it available too ... because the shreding example is an order of magnitude worse since all the non working pieces are stored in the same container." |
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