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Jay-Rock · 03-01-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

When I send tapes with raw footage and edited movies to a client I still have the raw footage in digital form and project files on my external hard drives for a few months in case anything gets lost. No need to make a tape backup in that case. One thing about mini-DV tapes is they don't require power and they are easy to label. Small HDDs still need power and to be plugged in. Tapes are easy to throw in a drawer or closet. If I ever do go tapeless, small HDDs sound like the way to go.

Most mini HDs are USB powered now. No need for a power cord.

They are making E-SATA (external SATA) mini drives now that are insanely faster.

The disadvantage I see to using Mini HDs is one of my clients insists on shooting in SD and a Mini DV tape and I had to buy a seperate camera for that (Panasonic DVX 100)

Paul Markham · 03-01-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vidvicious

?? it isn't 1970 s no more paul .. LOL

Hard drive is a great way to store your digital video. plus creating a great WORKFLOW .. that means in layman terms .. you won't spend the hour stairing blindly at a capture screen, only to find out that your settings are all off, cus youve been using the manifacturers presets .. LOL

NEXT .. WHAT digital camera head are you shooting with that can handle a 100$ lens .. please advise ... and please don't say canon cus a XL H 1 Cus this Can't take a 100 $ lens but is a 10 000 Camera ..

simply put if your in content and your seriously asking this question ? What camera to get" then find another posistion within our great industry . also if you think that digital tape is better then HD, your stuck in the past. The fact is that MiniDv isn't that great of a product, it has been laced wit problems from day one .. too small of a transport, resulting in lots of particles flying around and landing in the most in - appropriate places. Low life drum heads caused by second grade metals to keep prices down .. etc .. Adhesive tape is know not to have a good shelf life, if they couldn't do it with 1 inch what makes you think they can with a 8 mm tape ?

LAstly WORKFLOW. I won't even comment on the difference here.

Lookin at the newest cams out there for under 5000 $ .. Panasonic's P2 is awesome .. Sony's newest EX is grate .. but if you are stuck on canon .. Then the XH is your camera of choice hans down ... Opt for more expensive G1 rather then the A1. You'll thank me for the HD back up later.

All the best .. and please keep the Real Shooting to the Pros .. don't try this at home you just might hurt yourself . LOL

Great weekend all ... Vicious out

Yes the new equipment is superior to the old stuff and today it's much easier to use and you get a better image. But it does not tell you which angle, sequence, build up, where to cut, how to light, how to handle models, how to shoot a porn scene and a lot of other things a pornographer has to know. Having a great image is good, if what you capture is great. It just makes it easier to see it's poor porn.

If only it was as easy as spending money on a camera. If that was what really influenced the porn consumer Tubes would be dead. The opposite is true.

Karen Kougar · 03-01-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

One thing about mini-DV tapes is they don't require power and they are easy to label. Small HDDs still need power and to be plugged in.

"Mini-DV tapes don't require power?" Uhm- what???

With no power, DV tapes are just as useless as a hard drive, unless you're using gerbils on a wheel to power your playback.

We're just cutting some stuff Jay-Rock shot for me with his EX-1. It's gorgeous, and has given Tom some serious camera lust. He uses an HV-20 with the WD-H43, and says it doesn't even come close.

But the HV-20 is consumer gear, the EX-1 is in a whole different ballpark.

Jim_Gunn · 03-01-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Karen Kougar

"Mini-DV tapes don't require power?" Uhm- what???

With no power, DV tapes are just as useless as a hard drive, unless you're using gerbils on a wheel to power your playback.

We're just cutting some stuff Jay-Rock shot for me with his EX-1. It's gorgeous, and has given Tom some serious camera lust. He uses an HV-20 with the WD-H43, and says it doesn't even come close.

But the HV-20 is consumer gear, the EX-1 is in a whole different ballpark.

I meant the individual hard drives each require their own power. The less things that need power in my office the better. My electrical capability is just about maxed out! The Ex-1 looks pretty cool though for when I do go tapeless.

Jay-Rock · 03-01-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I meant the individual hard drives each require their own power. The less things that need power in my office the better. My electrical capability is just about maxed out! The Ex-1 looks pretty cool though for when I do go tapeless.

You wont regret it bro!

tony286 · 03-01-2009, 03:11 PM

You guys are going talking waaay ahead of barefootsies lol. He has been using a consumer camcorder for 5 yrs and Im pretty sure never touched the manual controls the whole time. Go with the hv20 if you can get it or 30 you will be very happy compared to the imagine you are getting now and it wont bankrupt you.

tony286 · 03-01-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

SOME SONY EX1 ($6500 + MEMORY) SAMPLE CLIPS

THE FIRST VIDEO (Scarlett Faye) IS WITH KINO FLO LIGHTS THE OTHER SCENES IS WITH NO LIGHTING AT ALL JUST AVAILABLE LIGHT

http://jay-rock.com/hdvids/scarlett_faye.mov

http://jay-rock.com/hdvids/shyla_capri_GG.mov

http://jay-rock.com/hdvids/shyla_interview.mov

http://jay-rock.com/hdvids/shyla_april_GG.mov

They look fucking amazing with just available light. I want one.

mikesouth · 03-01-2009, 04:18 PM

the people here telling you to get ioff tape are correct

go to solid state storage HD or SDHC cards or both and hi def is the only way to go

JustDaveXxx · 03-01-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

the people here telling you to get ioff tape are correct

go to solid state storage HD or SDHC cards or both and hi def is the only way to go

Im with you, but im still gonna wait to see what will be the standard.

Barefootsies · 03-18-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Im with you, but im still gonna wait to see what will be the standard.

mikesouth · 03-18-2009, 04:58 PM

H.264 is here for a while if you dont believe it download one of my HD clips from my ps3 clips for sale store, burn it to a plain old CD and watch it on your ps3 or xbox360 or blu-raydvd player you will understand why H.264 is so good

Barefootsies · 03-18-2009, 05:02 PM

Nice.

I have been interviewing some photographers this week.

Hopefully one of them can help with some light balance things in the new house. I need some assistance in getting the lighting right temps corrected for different rooms, and issues in each.

Some are darker than others, and some have harsh shadows. Lighting is no joke.

batts · 09-21-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

...or other content shooters.

I am looking at new camcorders. My Canon is around 5-6 years old now, and it's time for an upgrade. Still works fine, but gradually bumping up the quality on gear, computes, software, post production, etc..

I prefer DV AVI tape, as that is what I am shooting on now. Just not ready to make the move to disk. I prefer Canon, but will listen to other suggestions.

What are you using? Links helpful.

Fire away.

Suck Thread ?

AaronM fully owned you about Kandah. Then you post a suck thread.

nation-x · 09-22-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty

I use the Canon Vixia HV30 HDV (Mini DV's) you said you like Canon, this thing rocks and is affordable. You can shoot both HD and DV.

I love my HV30!

RAM · 09-22-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Elli

I'm really loving my little Canon HV20. It's not true HD, but it sure looks sweet.

Looks sweet just like YOU

Kolargol · 09-22-2009, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

You guys are going talking waaay ahead of barefootsies lol. He has been using a consumer camcorder for 5 yrs and Im pretty sure never touched the manual controls the whole time. Go with the hv20 if you can get it or 30 you will be very happy compared to the imagine you are getting now and it wont bankrupt you.

We use HV20 and we use manual controls all the time and the quality is more than enough for our customers. The only thing we buy now is some new lights or better locations.

pornguy · 09-22-2009, 06:08 AM

go the the HD system. well worth it.

Gerco · 09-22-2009, 06:24 AM

Good question and great answers. I sold off my vx2000 last year, but have been needing a new camera for sometime. I have been looking at the vx2100 since it was vary similar to the vx2000 and I always found that camera to be very usable. I don't think I care about HD, really... the extra workflow size etc, for porn? seems overkill.

I have wondered about shooting "diskless" but I still like having my tapes for backup. was wondering about the solutions I have seen that attach a hard drive to your camera so you shoot to both the dv tape and to the HD at the same time... ?

On lighting... I have a set of the tota lights and they work well, but are hot as hell and really suck the power. In fact, I have been in hotel suites shooting where if I plugged in more than 2 I would knock out the power in the room and trip some sort of alarm... (Happened at 2 different places in toledo) I've always wanted to get a set of the florescent lights if for nothing else, they are cool (as in heat)

Maybe it is time to think about moving tapeless, god knows they are a huge pain in the ass when it comes to getting the video off. Going to bookmark this thread and use it to buy my next camera.

Riffhard · 09-22-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

We use HV20 and we use manual controls all the time and the quality is more than enough for our customers. The only thing we buy now is some new lights or better locations.

+1. I love my HV20 to death.

03-01-2009, 04:18 PM	#58
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	the people here telling you to get ioff tape are correct go to solid state storage HD or SDHC cards or both and hi def is the only way to go __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	H.264 is here for a while if you dont believe it download one of my HD clips from my ps3 clips for sale store, burn it to a plain old CD and watch it on your ps3 or xbox360 or blu-raydvd player you will understand why H.264 is so good __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Nice. I have been interviewing some photographers this week. Hopefully one of them can help with some light balance things in the new house. I need some assistance in getting the lighting right temps corrected for different rooms, and issues in each. Some are darker than others, and some have harsh shadows. Lighting is no joke. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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Gerco Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,052	Good question and great answers. I sold off my vx2000 last year, but have been needing a new camera for sometime. I have been looking at the vx2100 since it was vary similar to the vx2000 and I always found that camera to be very usable. I don't think I care about HD, really... the extra workflow size etc, for porn? seems overkill. I have wondered about shooting "diskless" but I still like having my tapes for backup. was wondering about the solutions I have seen that attach a hard drive to your camera so you shoot to both the dv tape and to the HD at the same time... ? On lighting... I have a set of the tota lights and they work well, but are hot as hell and really suck the power. In fact, I have been in hotel suites shooting where if I plugged in more than 2 I would knock out the power in the room and trip some sort of alarm... (Happened at 2 different places in toledo) I've always wanted to get a set of the florescent lights if for nothing else, they are cool (as in heat) Maybe it is time to think about moving tapeless, god knows they are a huge pain in the ass when it comes to getting the video off. Going to bookmark this thread and use it to buy my next camera. __________________ Http://www.extremehole.com ** CLOSED ** 400 HOURS of exclusive custom extreme content, already on external HD in Raw DV ready to encode. over 150,000 exclusive images and more.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	You guys are going talking waaay ahead of barefootsies lol. He has been using a consumer camcorder for 5 yrs and Im pretty sure never touched the manual controls the whole time. Go with the hv20 if you can get it or 30 you will be very happy compared to the imagine you are getting now and it wont bankrupt you.