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NoComments · 07-22-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

What is shitty is that all the White House predictions have been way off already

I predict you die as multi billionaire......predictions are $1 a dozen.

sortie · 07-22-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

but but but, obama said if we just spent our childrens' childrens' childrens' future (which we have) that the unemployment rate wouldn't hit 8%

So you are upset that he is not an accurate "Fortune Teller"/"Soothsayer"?

He can't make your lazy ass get out and apply for a job to fix the numbers.

brassmonkey · 07-22-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

So you are upset that he is not an accurate "Fortune Teller"/"Soothsayer"?

He can't make your lazy ass get out and apply for a job to fix the numbers.

hahahaha!!

cwd · 07-22-2009, 08:55 AM

Rochard, I agree, this situation did not happen overnight, and it is not going to get better overnight.
It also seems sad that rather than try and find a reasonable way to have a constructive conversation with differing viewpoints it simply gets referred to as "you whiny liberals with your messiah" vs "you gave us Bush, so you started it"...

and lastly, what is so bad about Europe liking us? Or any part of the world liking us?

TurboAngel · 07-22-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cwd

and lastly, what is so bad about Europe liking us? Or any part of the world liking us?

if they like us, they will come, and when they come, they'll rape our women, enslave our children, and force us put teeth for free!

12clicks · 07-22-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

So you are upset that he is not an accurate "Fortune Teller"/"Soothsayer"?

your kind believed it, I'm just ridiculing your gullibility.

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

your kind believed it, I'm just ridiculing your gullibility.

..and when you believed in WMD in Iraq, who ridiculed you?

CDSmith · 07-22-2009, 09:06 AM

I love this thread.

12clicks · 07-22-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

..and when you believed in WMD in Iraq, who ridiculed you?

the considerable stupid masses.
then they went to great lengths to explain how chemical weapons weren't really WMDs just to appear right.

12clicks · 07-22-2009, 09:08 AM

Serge, you more than anyone know the dangers of leaving a wounded enemy on your flank.

MaDalton · 07-22-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I mean, isn't this what he promised?
10% unemployment
the highest deficit ever
more and more and more spending
higher taxes just around the corner
europe now loves us

come on, why aren't you all happy?

but, but... we love you now. is that nothing?

12clicks · 07-22-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

but, but... we love you now. is that nothing?

you loved me BEFORE obama.

when you misinterpreted the english word "masculine"

MaDalton · 07-22-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

if they like us, they will come, and when they come, they'll rape our women, enslave our children, and force us put teeth for free!

we sent the russians first to test the waters...

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 09:12 AM

Ron, wounded enemy? Third world country, UN embargoed, not even attempts at developing nukes...
this is the Arch Enemy of the United States of America??????

Between us boys, would be Iran pursuing nuclear program if Sadam was knocking their doors? he kicked Iran ass in the war, and for Iran Iraq was much bigger threat than USA. We untied the hands of Iran by invading Iraq.

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

we sent the russians first to test the waters...

NOBODY likes Russians THAT much!
;)

Mutt · 07-22-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

I predict you die as multi billionaire......predictions are $1 a dozen.

MaDalton · 07-22-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

you loved me BEFORE obama.

when you misinterpreted the english word "masculine"

me no speak engrish...

is that something you put on your eyes?

TheDoc · 07-22-2009, 09:17 AM

I like what Obama has done so far... I expected it to get much worse, so I'm rather happy that things are going so well. You can actually see an end to this recession, cool!

But man, I am so damn glad I didn't vote for McCain. I mean, how embarrassing would it be to have Palin as VP now?

Just one of many reasons why they lost..

Yeah, still today.. Obama over McCain any day of the week.

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 09:24 AM

did you say Palin??????

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

epitome · 07-22-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I mean, isn't this what he promised?
10% unemployment
the highest deficit ever
more and more and more spending
higher taxes just around the corner
europe now loves us

come on, why aren't you all happy?

Actually, he did promise all of those things except 10% unemployment.

You were too busy staring at Palin's ass to listen to what he was promising.

Only Republicans and the Obamabots think that the world can change overnight when it took six years of Republicans running the show to get here in the first place. The GOP doesn't really want anything to change, they just like to keep pointing out that there is no change although plenty of change is taking place before our eyes.

It's refreshing to have a President that is doing what he promised voters.

It's painful, but he warned everybody of that, too.

BradM · 07-22-2009, 09:37 AM

12clicks

Ravage · 07-22-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

your kind believed it, I'm just ridiculing your gullibility.

What would McCain & Palin have done so drastically different?

Do you feel the country would be in a better position or worse?

Meeper · 07-22-2009, 09:42 AM

Another anti-obama thread. How refreshing.

SoloGirlsContent · 07-22-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Just wondering . . . how much time will have to go by before you acknowledge that he does not know WTF he is doing?

4 years, the same amount of time I gave your butt buddy, BUSH..seem fair ?

BradM · 07-22-2009, 09:44 AM

12clicks is trollin you guys REALLY hard. Shame on you for falling for it.

Although he really does believe everything he is saying and will not have an intelligent discussion about it he will just insult you and point out he has been in the industry since 1842 and makes way more money than you do.

12clicks bla bla bla

kush · 07-22-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister

I'm happy

This economy was heading for the shitter long before u knew his name. It's got to hit the bottom for it to rise again. Business 101, go read it.. and he's been in office a whole 6 fuckin months..if he turned it around in that short of time..he would be a fucking GOD.. give'em a break man...go make some damn cash

6 months in office and the biggest spending president of all time.... and the economy gets worse, significantly worse.

Are you stupid or something?

SoloGirlsContent · 07-22-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Pussyman, and what exactly is YOUR claim to fame and pretence of intelligence?

I was wondering the same thing.. At least 12clicks is trying to have an honest debate.. Pussyman just looks like a fool.

All I'm saying is, this shit takes time... if his ideas don't work, then it didn't work, we vote in another President, this is not rocket science.

I'm open minded enough to allow Bush in and see what he could do..he failed BIGTIME!

If after 4 years, I don't see changes or progression, I will say the same thing.

SO look Pussyman, have a real debate, or STFU your breath stinks like shit, even over the message board

SoloGirlsContent · 07-22-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kush

6 months in office and the biggest spending president of all time.... and the economy gets worse, significantly worse.

Are you stupid or something?

I don't know about getting worse, my 1st 6 months of 09 are almost double what I made in 08...economy is looking up for me, maybe because I'm not crying about shit and I'm rolling up my fucking shirt sleeves and gettin' busy.. do the same

TheDoc · 07-22-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kush

6 months in office and the biggest spending president of all time.... and the economy gets worse, significantly worse.

Are you stupid or something?

Our Economy is worse, "significantly worse".... in what ways? Remember, worse.. after he became President and took office.. How about you just name 1 way?

You can't say unemployment, that failure started to happen well before Obama came around, it just happened to fall when he came in.

Slappin Fish · 07-22-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kush

6 months in office and the biggest spending president of all time.... and the economy gets worse, significantly worse.

This is what your saying:

I have cancer, took years to develop, I stopped smoking 6 months ago spend loads of money, but my health is getting worse, significantly worse

Doctor said if I stopped it would be better... fucking empty promises....that man doesn't know WTF he is talking about

kush · 07-22-2009, 10:11 AM

If the stimulus money was actually stimulative, and it was actually getting out there, yes - we'd be seeing results. But he hasn't done that.

The money has by large been spent on pork. It's stimulated very little.
Had the stimulus been spent on actual stimulating the economy, it would have stimulated so much more.

You liberals champion Obama for the food pieces that he's brushed off the table; I call him a failure for leaving so much to rot on the table to begin with.

TheDoc · 07-22-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kush

If the stimulus money was actually stimulative, and it was actually getting out there, yes - we'd be seeing results. But he hasn't done that.

The money has by large been spent on pork. It's stimulated very little.
Had the stimulus been spent on actual stimulating the economy, it would have stimulated so much more.

You liberals champion Obama for the food pieces that he's brushed off the table; I call him a failure for leaving so much to rot on the table to begin with.

Is a large part of the pork, like 98% of the money was spent on pork?

Do you know the actual %, clearly not... because it's not any part "by large."

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 10:22 AM

kush kush in the Bush....

IllTestYourGirls · 07-22-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Our Economy is worse, "significantly worse".... in what ways? Remember, worse.. after he became President and took office.. How about you just name 1 way?

You can't say unemployment, that failure started to happen well before Obama came around, it just happened to fall when he came in.

Credit card charge offs

Daddy Big Nuts · 07-22-2009, 10:32 AM

I'm gonna hold off until we're all paying 60% taxes. Shouldn't be long from now.

baddog · 07-22-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

It's refreshing to have a President that is doing what he promised voters.

sextoyking · 07-22-2009, 10:34 AM

Serge,

Your point about iran v iraq is well taken...

Sure Iran wanted / wants to be a "player" in the world political scene but it's worst fear for decades was Iraq and Saddam....

Former Leaders, Former State Dept. officials from republican and democratic admins said not to go into Iraq - you will open up a can of worms visa v iran that will be tough to get a handle on..

Obama is doing just fine for his first 6 months in office - what more can we expect.

We had a complete and utter colapse under Bush.... At least we have a president now with some damm brains and sense

NoComments · 07-22-2009, 10:41 AM

Todd, the fact that the anti-obama crowd has nothing to say to oppose - says volumes.
They know bush fucked up, but party loyalty prevents them from yelling about it on every corner.

Slappin Fish · 07-22-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Credit card charge offs

I lol'ed, come on honestly...

Credit card charge offs are the ultimate lagging indicator.

First you lose your job, then spend your savings, then max out your cards.... it doesn't unravel overnight

sextoyking · 07-22-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NoComments

Todd, the fact that the anti-obama crowd has nothing to say to oppose - says volumes.
They know bush fucked up, but party loyalty prevents them from yelling about it on every corner.

True, True....

While Clinton (who I will always love) was one of our smartest presidents ever - he had some personal flaws and I do bring them up when talking with fellow dems and others.

I could care less what people do in there personal life, i.e. sex, etc but I did have a problem and was embarrassed when clinton was doing it on our time in the white house..

sigh - we are all human and make mistakes....

marketsmart · 07-22-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

12clicks is trollin you guys REALLY hard. Shame on you for falling for it.

Although he really does believe everything he is saying and will not have an intelligent discussion about it he will just insult you and point out he has been in the industry since 1842 and makes way more money than you do.

12clicks bla bla bla

no no, he's just testing the waters for a run at office..

i think ron could be the next harvey milk...

i'm not sure though of he will be able to secure all the Young Gay Republican vote even if he is a member..

TheDoc · 07-22-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Credit card charge offs

What does that have to do anything? A charge off is when you don't pay your dept and the issuing bank clears the money from it's books so it's not an asset.

They still go after you to collect.. so it's nothing different than what has been happening way before any problems came around.

"Despite the gloomy economic forecast, credit card delinquencies fell slightly last month. Delinquencies are monthly payments more than 30 days late. Private-label cards also showed a significant decrease in chargeoffs from 7.1 percent in April to 6.9 percent in May."

kush · 07-22-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What does that have to do anything? A charge off is when you don't pay your dept and the issuing bank clears the money from it's books so it's not an asset.

They still go after you to collect.. so it's nothing different than what has been happening way before any problems came around.

"Despite the gloomy economic forecast, credit card delinquencies fell slightly last month. Delinquencies are monthly payments more than 30 days late. Private-label cards also showed a significant decrease in chargeoffs from 7.1 percent in April to 6.9 percent in May."

So now you're pulling your facts from a commercially-driven credit card website ( http://www.credit-land.com/news/news...790476_179.php )

And I bet you think they economy is better because the white house says that fewer people are searching on google for "economic depression" ?

Rinaldo · 07-22-2009, 11:07 AM

It all began when Louis XIV implemented the Court system. The Government Employees need the Government to keep spending to keep receiving their salaries. Cut spending they lose their jobs, it creates a cycle which they will not break themselves. Only we, the tax payers could legitimately stop them. However no one's that bright and thus we perpetuate the cycle.

TheDoc · 07-22-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kush

So now you're pulling your facts from a commercially-driven credit card website ( http://www.credit-land.com/news/news...790476_179.php )

And I bet you think they economy is better because the white house says that fewer people are searching on google for "economic depression" ?

Does it make a difference where the info was pulled from? We could look at BoA and see the numbers are greatly better for them too.

I don't know what the White House is saying... but I would expect them to paint a good picture. Afterall, the eco isn't that bad.

kush · 07-22-2009, 11:13 AM

If Obama slowed down, went about doing everything the right way and was open to more people's ways of doing things, and compromised, some of his promises may start holding water.

But so far he's promised everything and the kitchen sink, and nothing's sticking. Same thing with health care... the "WE HAVE TO FIX IT NOW" mentality, and there is no consensus even among Dems on how to do it.

The more he speeds through his goals the more damage he is going to cause along the way.

Are you all serious not worried by the record debt we now have? RECORD DEBT. This crisis wasn't caused by Bush. It was caused by borrowing more than we could pay for. And that sort of behavior is getting more and more serious.

TheDoc · 07-22-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kush

If Obama slowed down, went about doing everything the right way and was open to more people's ways of doing things, and compromised, some of his promises may start holding water.

But so far he's promised everything and the kitchen sink, and nothing's sticking. Same thing with health care... the "WE HAVE TO FIX IT NOW" mentality, and there is no consensus even among Dems on how to do it.

The more he speeds through his goals the more damage he is going to cause along the way.

Are you all serious not worried by the record debt we now have? RECORD DEBT. This crisis wasn't caused by Bush. It was caused by borrowing more than we could pay for. And that sort of behavior is getting more and more serious.

Not worried about the dept, it's not real.. I can make my company be 100 billion in debt too, it's really easy. Or I could do something like.. for every 1 hour of work I do for you, I will charge you my rate, but on your books you put double the rate. That way, I "appear" to be in debt to you, but I really paid you.

And why not get healthcare going? It took Canada like 15 years or something for them to Iron it out. I would "never" expect, even if the best person in the world was running, to get healthcare off the ground, perfectly or even half ass good.

Speeding it up.. gets the ball going quicker so the bugs can be dealt with quicker.

kush · 07-22-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Not worried about the dept, it's not real.. I can make my company be 100 billion in debt too, it's really easy. Or I could do something like.. for every 1 hour of work I do for you, I will charge you my rate, but on your books you put double the rate. That way, I "appear" to be in debt to you, but I really paid you.

And why not get healthcare going? It took Canada like 15 years or something for them to Iron it out. I would "never" expect, even if the best person in the world was running, to get healthcare off the ground, perfectly or even half ass good.

Speeding it up.. gets the ball going quicker so the bugs can be dealt with quicker.

This talk and interest in health care is a great thing. Our system needs improvement. However pushing for votes before law makers read the material and have ample opportunity to debate and improve it is a bad idea (referring back to the stimulus).

As to debt, I don't understand what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're talking about manipulating numbers to make the final figure look more attractive. But no matter how many numbers you fudge, the US government is still going to owe all the trillions of dollars it is borrowing. Even Europe is afraid of our spending. We are destabilizing our currency. We are printing money. We are risking inflation in a time where wages and jobs are falling. Think BIG PICTURE. How do people not see this? How are more people not worried wanting to slow down and stop the spending that we don't know how to pay for?

12clicks · 07-22-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Not worried about the dept, it's not real.. I can make my company be 100 billion in debt too, it's really easy. Or I could do something like.. for every 1 hour of work I do for you, I will charge you my rate, but on your books you put double the rate. That way, I "appear" to be in debt to you, but I really paid you.

And why not get healthcare going? It took Canada like 15 years or something for them to Iron it out. I would "never" expect, even if the best person in the world was running, to get healthcare off the ground, perfectly or even half ass good.

Speeding it up.. gets the ball going quicker so the bugs can be dealt with quicker.

Wow, just wow.
This is the financial education level of the typical Obama voter.
No clue but as long as he gets his free health care, who cares?

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07-22-2009, 08:55 AM	#54
cwd Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In a dream Posts: 1,955	Rochard, I agree, this situation did not happen overnight, and it is not going to get better overnight. It also seems sad that rather than try and find a reasonable way to have a constructive conversation with differing viewpoints it simply gets referred to as "you whiny liberals with your messiah" vs "you gave us Bush, so you started it"... and lastly, what is so bad about Europe liking us? Or any part of the world liking us?

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	12clicks is trollin you guys REALLY hard. Shame on you for falling for it. Although he really does believe everything he is saying and will not have an intelligent discussion about it he will just insult you and point out he has been in the industry since 1842 and makes way more money than you do. 12clicks bla bla bla

07-22-2009, 10:11 AM	#82
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	If the stimulus money was actually stimulative, and it was actually getting out there, yes - we'd be seeing results. But he hasn't done that. The money has by large been spent on pork. It's stimulated very little. Had the stimulus been spent on actual stimulating the economy, it would have stimulated so much more. You liberals champion Obama for the food pieces that he's brushed off the table; I call him a failure for leaving so much to rot on the table to begin with.

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Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	It all began when Louis XIV implemented the Court system. The Government Employees need the Government to keep spending to keep receiving their salaries. Cut spending they lose their jobs, it creates a cycle which they will not break themselves. Only we, the tax payers could legitimately stop them. However no one's that bright and thus we perpetuate the cycle.

07-22-2009, 11:13 AM	#97
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	If Obama slowed down, went about doing everything the right way and was open to more people's ways of doing things, and compromised, some of his promises may start holding water. But so far he's promised everything and the kitchen sink, and nothing's sticking. Same thing with health care... the "WE HAVE TO FIX IT NOW" mentality, and there is no consensus even among Dems on how to do it. The more he speeds through his goals the more damage he is going to cause along the way. Are you all serious not worried by the record debt we now have? RECORD DEBT. This crisis wasn't caused by Bush. It was caused by borrowing more than we could pay for. And that sort of behavior is getting more and more serious.