why is it ok to have copywritten images from movies in your sig but tubes are bad? - GoFuckYourself.com

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 09:45 AM

just asking

BlackCrayon · 10-01-2009, 09:47 AM

If you want to be silly and go that far you have names in your sig that are tm'ed.

BVF · 10-01-2009, 09:48 AM

same reason it was ok to have thumbnails of copywritten content..

Tom_PM · 10-01-2009, 09:50 AM

Do you mean like, will someone in the afterlife judge them the same? or Karma be out of balance for each equally? Maybe!

Both are bad. One is just maybe millions of times worse.

TheDoc · 10-01-2009, 10:04 AM

Ok if not the avatars... how about the music videos, most of the satire videos, image shack photos, posting of motivational pictures with copyrighted content in them, hot linking of photos from google images, the sounds used in advertising here and other forums, funny pic/hot girls of myspace type threads... and I can go on for hours.

I agree, it's only bad when it's mine...

MetaMan · 10-01-2009, 10:05 AM

Go eat some vegetables faggot.

Agent 488 · 10-01-2009, 10:07 AM

anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

If you want to be silly and go that far

yeah im not rly srs the internet was made for animations and free pr0n

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

all bout dem views dogg

CaptainHowdy · 10-01-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

There we go...

Barefootsies · 10-01-2009, 10:17 AM

You never miss an opportunity to bring this issue up over the years Hollywood.

We get it. You don't approve.

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 10:18 AM

why do you care? you are still here on the board that supports the tubes and hanging out with posters with illegal images in their sigs.

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

You never miss an opportunity to bring this issue up over the years Hollywood.

We get it. You don't approve.

? you misunderstanding me, i encourage everyone to make avatars and sigs from movies, you mistake me homie

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

why do you care?

i dont. but i sure know how to stir a bees nest with a thread title LOL

Nautilus · 10-01-2009, 10:21 AM

Because it's fair use (well, mostly), and because it's not our money at stake.

Barefootsies · 10-01-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

? you misunderstanding me, i encourage everyone to make avatars and sigs from movies, you mistake me homie

You are changing your position on this issue now?!? Whaaaaa

Flip flopping FletchXXX

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

You are changing your position on this issue now?!? Whaaaaa

Flip flopping FletchXXX

huh? ive always jut pointed at hypocrisy i never said it was illegal to make an avatar from a music video, ive done it on GFY! lol

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

i dont. but i sure know how to stir a bees nest with a thread title LOL

well, that's one way to advertise your banner design biz.

good luck eh.

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

Because it's fair use (well, mostly), and because it's not our money at stake.

yeah fuck hollywood, do they even make movies worth buying?

wanna trade DVD copies of anime with me?

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, that's one way to advertise your banner design biz.

good luck eh.

i dont post here for any reason other than to make money, when i need entertainment i find that in the night with the freaks and addicts LOL

Barefootsies · 10-01-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

ive always jut pointed at hypocrisy

ive done it on GFY!

TheDoc · 10-01-2009, 10:26 AM

You people and your double standards, ethics and bullshit moral values that only turn on when it's about you.

Piracy is Piracy whether done for profit, duty or fun.

alias · 10-01-2009, 10:27 AM

YO YO Fletch! I told u to stop making sense posts ago.. .

flip.green · 10-01-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

or Karma be out of balance for each equally?.

Karma still owes me for stealing my bike when i was a kid

Fletch XXX · 10-01-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

i havent made many avatars for gfy but trying to recall what i did PIRATE, was a screengrab from psycho Killer vid from Talking Heads. Byrne is gonna sue my ass

Barefootsies · 10-01-2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

You people and your double standards, ethics and bullshit moral values that only turn on when it's about you.

Piracy is Piracy whether done for profit, duty or fun.

alias · 10-01-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

teh lulz

k and sly no offense but this shit is funny

Sly · 10-01-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by alias

teh lulz

k and sly no offense but this shit is funny

LOL what does this have to do with me?

Nautilus · 10-01-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

yeah fuck hollywood, do they even make movies worth buying?

wanna trade DVD copies of anime with me?

I don't care about Hollywood, protecting their content is their problem. Our problem is to protect OUR content, because WE make money out of it.

Some minor infringments do probably occasionally happen here, but nothing even close to what illegal tubes are doing to us.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-01-2009, 10:52 AM

I dont think anyone said either of them are "ok" but obviously they are vastly different.

i.e. Beating a mosquito to death is accepted
Beating a dog to death is "cruelty to animals"

TheDoc · 10-01-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I dont think anyone said either of them are "ok" but obviously they are vastly different.

i.e. Beating a mosquito to death is accepted
Beating a dog to death is "cruelty to animals"

Smokey, maybe you can explain it to me..

If I upload a music video to youtube.... how is that any different if I upload some other companies porn video to a tube?

It's not like it has to be posted here, but once it is... we kind of anchor it in.

Honestly, I'm confused..

ShellyCrash · 10-01-2009, 11:03 AM

"Cat Bite- The Movie!"

Hentaikid · 10-01-2009, 11:12 AM

It's copy RIGHT and copyrighted, writing copy is a completely different thing.

Jdoughs · 10-01-2009, 11:14 AM

If tube8 was full of 'screengrabs' or gif's (less then 100kb in size), nobody would complain about them either.

Sly · 10-01-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

If tube8 was full of 'screengrabs' or gif's (less then 100kb in size), nobody would complain about them either.

Solo girls and dating sites.

BVF · 10-01-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Smokey, maybe you can explain it to me..

If I upload a music video to youtube.... how is that any different if I upload some other companies porn video to a tube?..

Youtube either takes the video down or the artist gets paid for their videos being run....

BlackCrayon · 10-01-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

yeah im not rly srs the internet was made for animations and free pr0n

Copyright violation is copyright violation but you can't compare screencaps to actual movies.

Tom_PM · 10-01-2009, 11:30 AM

From Youtube's Upload Video's page:

"Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.

The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.

By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it."

Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use.

Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol.

edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not

SykkBoy · 10-01-2009, 11:33 AM

because we're all hypocrites...
we only care about our own bottom lines being affected...

it's no different than people bitching about tubes yet bragging about catching the latest theatrical release on a torrent site or stocking up on MP3s...

SykkBoy · 10-01-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

From Youtube's Upload Video's page:

"Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.

The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.

By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it."

Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use.

Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol.

edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not

so, if a tube site added those bits of text to their site, it would put them in the clear? interesting...

Tom_PM · 10-01-2009, 11:36 AM

No, and you know it's silly to presume since someone said one thing, that they mean 100000 other things.

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 11:39 AM

is 1 single frame from a movie the same value as a full movie?

i know it's copyright and all but these are 2 different types, so the analogy does not work.

Tom_PM · 10-01-2009, 11:43 AM

What recourse does a current complainer have if they want a video off a tube site? Email them and ask for it to be removed? Fine. What if it's multiple videos? Wouldnt someone want to know who the fuck uploaded them all? Nobody wants any legal cover, OR legal recourse? Well for fuck sakes just say so and be done with it entirely.

LEGAL sites that accept user submitted content have to cover themselves and make the good faith effort of requiring uploaders to be in posession of the rights to distribute the content. Thats it! Thats all there is to it. Someone not going that half-step is clearly not intending to run a real legal operation, thats that.

TheDoc · 10-01-2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

From Youtube's Upload Video's page:

"Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.

The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.

By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it."

Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use.

Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol.

edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not

You mean like? (first adult tube I looked at)
Please follow these rules so we can all enjoy the site.Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use.

Do not attempt to upload child pornography or any videos exploiting children. We take this very seriously and will advise the appropriate authorities to deal with the matter.

Do not upload animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making or any related content.

We do not tolerate predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, invading privacy, or the revealing of other members' personal information. You will not get any warning before you are banned from the site.

- NO SPAM - Do not create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. Spammers will be banned without any warnings.

You need an account to upload content to any tube software... unless someone has anon uploads. If you think it's not user uploaded, like all one user, you can nail the tube to the wall.

It's not different because it's youtube.

Tom_PM · 10-01-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

You mean like? (first adult tube I looked at)
Please follow these rules so we can all enjoy the site.Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use.

Do not attempt to upload child pornography or any videos exploiting children. We take this very seriously and will advise the appropriate authorities to deal with the matter.

Do not upload animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making or any related content.

We do not tolerate predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, invading privacy, or the revealing of other members' personal information. You will not get any warning before you are banned from the site.

- NO SPAM - Do not create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. Spammers will be banned without any warnings.

You need an account to upload content to any tube software... unless someone has anon uploads. If you think it's not user uploaded, like all one user, you can nail the tube to the wall.

It's not different because it's youtube.

There you go! I could respect a tube site like that if it was not just lip service. Now please dont say it was from what people call an "illegal" tube site?

BVF · 10-01-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

It's not different because it's youtube.

It's different because YOUTUBE TAKES ACTION!!

Barefootsies · 10-01-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

because we're all hypocrites...
we only care about our own bottom lines being affected...

it's no different than people bitching about tubes yet bragging about catching the latest theatrical release on a torrent site or stocking up on MP3s...

Exactly right.

TheDoc · 10-01-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

It's different because YOUTUBE TAKES ACTION!!

My content has been removed from every tube I have sent a notice to.

Forums, that's a different story.

Tom_PM · 10-01-2009, 11:55 AM

Hey I'll tell you right now that I withdraw every complaint I ever made if every request for content removal was honored 100% of the time and promptly and efforts are made to prevent a reoccurence of the violation.

But it sure seems people got/get pretty riled when mention is made of just a few tube sites, so whats the difference with those sites?

Imortyl Pussycat · 10-01-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Ok if not the avatars... how about the music videos, most of the satire videos, image shack photos, posting of motivational pictures with copyrighted content in them, hot linking of photos from google images, the sounds used in advertising here and other forums, funny pic/hot girls of myspace type threads... and I can go on for hours.

I agree, it's only bad when it's mine...

head hits nail. no one is innocent of piracy or "stealing content" in one form or another. be it this industry or all those you named. take away every post, in every tube thread, made by someone that has done any of the above "stealing" and you are left with an empty thread.

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10-01-2009, 09:50 AM	#4
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Do you mean like, will someone in the afterlife judge them the same? or Karma be out of balance for each equally? Maybe! Both are bad. One is just maybe millions of times worse. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

10-01-2009, 10:04 AM	#5
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Ok if not the avatars... how about the music videos, most of the satire videos, image shack photos, posting of motivational pictures with copyrighted content in them, hot linking of photos from google images, the sounds used in advertising here and other forums, funny pic/hot girls of myspace type threads... and I can go on for hours. I agree, it's only bad when it's mine... __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	Go eat some vegetables faggot.

10-01-2009, 10:07 AM	#7
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

10-01-2009, 10:17 AM	#11
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10-01-2009, 10:18 AM	#12
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,832	why do you care? you are still here on the board that supports the tubes and hanging out with posters with illegal images in their sigs.

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	You people and your double standards, ethics and bullshit moral values that only turn on when it's about you. Piracy is Piracy whether done for profit, duty or fun. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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10-01-2009, 11:12 AM	#33
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	It's copy RIGHT and copyrighted, writing copy is a completely different thing.

10-01-2009, 11:14 AM	#34
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10-01-2009, 11:30 AM	#38
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	From Youtube's Upload Video's page: "Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself. The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright. By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it." Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use. Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol. edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar. Last edited by Tom_PM; 10-01-2009 at 11:31 AM..

10-01-2009, 11:33 AM	#39
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	because we're all hypocrites... we only care about our own bottom lines being affected... it's no different than people bitching about tubes yet bragging about catching the latest theatrical release on a torrent site or stocking up on MP3s...

10-01-2009, 11:36 AM	#41
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	No, and you know it's silly to presume since someone said one thing, that they mean 100000 other things. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

10-01-2009, 11:39 AM	#42
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,832	is 1 single frame from a movie the same value as a full movie? i know it's copyright and all but these are 2 different types, so the analogy does not work.

10-01-2009, 11:43 AM	#43
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	What recourse does a current complainer have if they want a video off a tube site? Email them and ask for it to be removed? Fine. What if it's multiple videos? Wouldnt someone want to know who the fuck uploaded them all? Nobody wants any legal cover, OR legal recourse? Well for fuck sakes just say so and be done with it entirely. LEGAL sites that accept user submitted content have to cover themselves and make the good faith effort of requiring uploaders to be in posession of the rights to distribute the content. Thats it! Thats all there is to it. Someone not going that half-step is clearly not intending to run a real legal operation, thats that. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

10-01-2009, 11:55 AM	#49
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Hey I'll tell you right now that I withdraw every complaint I ever made if every request for content removal was honored 100% of the time and promptly and efforts are made to prevent a reoccurence of the violation. But it sure seems people got/get pretty riled when mention is made of just a few tube sites, so whats the difference with those sites? __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.