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LickMyBalls · 07-12-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boduzapho

I'm offering this up as free advice from someone (myself) who has been around a very long time.

I have in the past created content delivery applications that make stealing your content very difficult. It involves using a modified video codex that is not available to the public, the one i use is a modified version of a popular video format. Now this does not prevent them from recording you video from a browser, but that is a pain in the butt to do, they would have to want it bad. If they were able to download the video from you they would not be able to play it.

I'm not going to let my secretes completely out of the bag, but if you can read between the lines you can I am sure figure this out for yourselves.

The other option is to NOT use an standard player but custom player that has access to running processes on the host machine that can detect ripping applications. MMO games use this method to stop cheaters. It is not easy to do, but it can be done.

Anyway that's my

Feel free to contact me if you have questions.

Dude.. everything you suggest has been brought up before. Read a little.

boduzapho · 07-14-2010, 08:36 AM

No offense, but I'm not going to spend a week reading this entire board for like posts, in this thread it was NOT brought up, so I did.

It is very sound advice.

Jack Sparrow · 07-14-2010, 09:15 AM

Some tubes have full videos you know. People seem to love them.

aubreythree · 07-16-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kjmaster

This idea works sometimes, worth trying...

yeah, it might worth a try

Smokieflame · 07-22-2010, 11:07 PM

Fuck lawyers, fuck the legal system. What have they done for porn lately even tho we HAVE to pay our fucking taxes!!! What we should do is get mid-evil on these bitches!! All band together, hire an A-Team like squad and send them to these fuckers houses!!! a few good beatings would do some good I bet. Go steal all there shit too, see how they fucking like it.

It kills people like me the most, I dont make tons of money off my content, I make my own stuff, and when my content ends up on tube sites (which it has many times) i really lose out. I dont have the money to pay for the pricey bulldog security to have a chance at my stuff not being stolen, i dont have a super smart webmaster either dont have a webmaster at that right now.

I dont see why you guys who have HUGE programs and bring in several million a year dont do something about this. Its not like you guys arent effected by it too. I have seen some new stuff from some major programs on tube sites, stuff that is as old as 1 week.

What would it take for people to band together and make a class action lawsuit against Brazzers and other LARGER tube sites? Not like we cant find out who they are and where they are hosting at. Hell even tho I am far form rich I would toss some of my money towards a class suit, if everyone else did the same maybe we could make a difference on our own!!!

marcorandazza · 08-01-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame

Fuck lawyers, fuck the legal system. What have they done for porn lately even tho we HAVE to pay our fucking taxes!!! What we should do is get mid-evil on these bitches!! All band together, hire an A-Team like squad and send them to these fuckers houses!!! a few good beatings would do some good I bet. Go steal all there shit too, see how they fucking like it.

It kills people like me the most, I dont make tons of money off my content, I make my own stuff, and when my content ends up on tube sites (which it has many times) i really lose out. I dont have the money to pay for the pricey bulldog security to have a chance at my stuff not being stolen, i dont have a super smart webmaster either dont have a webmaster at that right now.

I dont see why you guys who have HUGE programs and bring in several million a year dont do something about this. Its not like you guys arent effected by it too. I have seen some new stuff from some major programs on tube sites, stuff that is as old as 1 week.

What would it take for people to band together and make a class action lawsuit against Brazzers and other LARGER tube sites? Not like we cant find out who they are and where they are hosting at. Hell even tho I am far form rich I would toss some of my money towards a class suit, if everyone else did the same maybe we could make a difference on our own!!!

As a lawyer who has dedicated his career to assisting clients in the adult industry, I can tell you definitively that *this lawyer* has done plenty for his clients when it comes to piracy. You just have to know a) the law and b) some VERY simple tech issues.

Banding together is a VERY good idea. What you really ought to do is have a "ripoff site of the week" that everyone checks for their content, and bombs the site's web host with DMCA notices on it. Then, everyone post the DMCA notices so that one of the bigger companies can use all of them as evidence against the web host for failing to cut off a repeat infringer.

The only strategy that will work is attacking the web hosts.

Go to whois.sc and check the registration information. Then click the tab that says "server stats." That will tell you who the web host is. Keep in mind that a well-trafficked tube site makes a web host about $10,000 (at least) per month in hosting fees (and many are upwards of $50,000 or more). So, you need to make it not worth their while to keep hosting the theft site. One person can't do that on their own.

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yabate · 08-01-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You don't just use FMS, you use FMS along with some backend scripting, and you CAN stop your shit from being downloaded. I've tested it against every known software available that downloads streaming vids...including the hardest one to stop of them all: Replay Media. You're not being accurate when you say it's been "busted" FMS in and of itself was never meant to stop you from downloading a stream. It does make it tougher. But using it in conjunction with a lot of backend work is extremely effective.

If you have any video served by FMS, i would like to test it.

HB|Sergio · 08-13-2010, 03:21 AM

All tubes must be closed :\

damnage · 08-19-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HB|Sergio

All tubes must be closed :\

Wake up and smell the coffee, the era of simply paying for porn is over.

Tubes can still work in producers favour though. If a decent video is make of a hot chick getting seduced and just as its getting good stops, you will get sales.

The sales are being lost by the tubes giving away the whole video.

The compromise is that the tubes need to start limiting the full videos whether peacefully (They find an acceptable business model) or in a hostile manner (lawsuits and what not) and start giving limited access.

Don't get me started on pirated material, thats a real swine.

2intense · 08-19-2010, 11:23 AM

i agree,all tubes must be closed,they fuck up adult industry

urlhammer · 10-27-2010, 05:25 AM

I think the guy that owns tube8 owns videobash, they seem to have a permanent advertising campaign on tube8 now that seems fishy. I talked to the owner of video bash one day and his English was broken up very poor. I think it's the same owner of the other tubes.

Half man, Half Amazing · 10-27-2010, 10:36 PM

tube8, spankwire, extremetube, keezmovies are all owned by Manwich aka the Brazzers Network of Criminal Activity.

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CopyMotion · 10-30-2010, 04:51 PM

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webmax · 11-05-2010, 10:56 PM

You need to hire this guy Rick from removeyourcontent.com

chazzKorvex · 11-07-2010, 12:19 PM

Is it 100 percent the tube sites fault or retards stealing content and uploading it to the Tube site? I say go after some of the retards too ;)

mvc333 · 03-17-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

This encryption tool is called Adobe Media Server, costs under 1 grand.

As a DVD distributor I can say nearly every studio wants to get their stuff on DVD for at least incremental income so... protecting your streams won't help so much if people can just rip a dvd

03-29-2011, 07:51 AM

Of course, these sites violate the law, but look on the other hand, is a platform for increasing the ranking of sites, so this is a powerful tool for promotion.

ScrollDog · 07-01-2014, 03:24 PM

Strange face about the majority of the largest tube sites in the world that are stealing your content... They are all primarily owned by one company, and that company funded the beloved StopFileLockers (AdultKing) movement which is found here on GFY.

Do you find it a bit hypocritical?

Robbie · 07-01-2014, 04:18 PM

Nope. Adult King isn't "funded" by them. They donated to his cause.

I find it hypocritical for someone like you to try to attack a person who is the ONLY guy who has ever accomplished anything against piracy.

I'm putting you on "ignore" now because you are obviously not in this business.

AdultKing · 07-02-2014, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Nope. Adult King isn't "funded" by them. They donated to his cause.

I find it hypocritical for someone like you to try to attack a person who is the ONLY guy who has ever accomplished anything against piracy.

Scrolldog/Richard Humphrey/To0 is a convicted pirate who did federal prison for piracy, he's also a convicted child sex offender amongst other things who recently did another stint in prison for parole violation - he'll be going back, it's just a matter of time.

Manwin/MindGeek provided some initial contributions to the project but withdrew that support last year. However that hasn't stopped us pursuing infringements on their properties. The people in our collaboration system are constantly dealing with infringements on tubes owned by many companies and we process them just like any other DMCA that goes to infringements@

Our concentration has been on file lockers because that's a big enough problem in itself, much more of a problem than tubes.

We currently have the following numbers of targets:

File Lockers: 737 sites
Tubes: 116 sites
Torrent Trackers: 409

The interesting thing about this is that if we remove torrents this is the breakdown chart taken directly from our back end systems:

Looking at that, it's not hard to see why Scrolldog is screaming blue murder. He is actively involved at WJunction which supports many file locker sites. He also associates with Rudy Corella of UltraMegaBit and Stephen Adami of the now failed OTEUpload.

Devostator · 08-19-2014, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

Why would google give a shit, if paysite owners themselves do not give a shit and never send them proper DMCAs.

DMRC · 01-15-2015, 08:07 PM

The video looks removed now. That's good at least.

WDRockstar · 01-29-2015, 01:55 AM

Maybe that's one of the reasons they built their tube site... its no different from the other webmasters who owns a forum where you can upload private pics to. After a year they'll launch a new paysite depending on how much content they've already gotten from their subscribers :D

07-22-2010, 11:07 PM	#55
Smokieflame Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 596	Fuck lawyers, fuck the legal system. What have they done for porn lately even tho we HAVE to pay our fucking taxes!!! What we should do is get mid-evil on these bitches!! All band together, hire an A-Team like squad and send them to these fuckers houses!!! a few good beatings would do some good I bet. Go steal all there shit too, see how they fucking like it. It kills people like me the most, I dont make tons of money off my content, I make my own stuff, and when my content ends up on tube sites (which it has many times) i really lose out. I dont have the money to pay for the pricey bulldog security to have a chance at my stuff not being stolen, i dont have a super smart webmaster either dont have a webmaster at that right now. I dont see why you guys who have HUGE programs and bring in several million a year dont do something about this. Its not like you guys arent effected by it too. I have seen some new stuff from some major programs on tube sites, stuff that is as old as 1 week. What would it take for people to band together and make a class action lawsuit against Brazzers and other LARGER tube sites? Not like we cant find out who they are and where they are hosting at. Hell even tho I am far form rich I would toss some of my money towards a class suit, if everyone else did the same maybe we could make a difference on our own!!! __________________ Sig too big http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962 Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT AVN DOT com

08-19-2010, 11:23 AM	#60
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10-30-2010, 04:51 PM	#63
CopyMotion Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Copyright Protection Posts: 10	A solution to tube site copyright infringement If you are looking to protect your video content this may interest you. Our service, CopyMotion, has recently launched. It is automated adult video copyright protection based on our proprietary computer vision technology. Without watermarking, alterations or any extra effort on your part it will find and help you remove your content from tube sites. We bring this technology to the table at a much lower price point than anything currently available. __________________ CopyMotion, the most advanced copyright protection available in the adult industry. High-tech computer vision monitoring technology protecting your videos from unauthorized distribution. http://www.copymotion.com

11-05-2010, 10:56 PM	#64
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11-07-2010, 12:19 PM	#65
chazzKorvex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 179	Is it 100 percent the tube sites fault or retards stealing content and uploading it to the Tube site? I say go after some of the retards too ;) __________________ Chazz Korvex

07-14-2010, 08:36 AM	#52
boduzapho Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 19	No offense, but I'm not going to spend a week reading this entire board for like posts, in this thread it was NOT brought up, so I did. It is very sound advice.

07-14-2010, 09:15 AM	#53
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Some tubes have full videos you know. People seem to love them.

08-13-2010, 03:21 AM	#58
HB\|Sergio Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 266	All tubes must be closed :\

10-27-2010, 05:25 AM	#61
urlhammer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 444	I think the guy that owns tube8 owns videobash, they seem to have a permanent advertising campaign on tube8 now that seems fishy. I talked to the owner of video bash one day and his English was broken up very poor. I think it's the same owner of the other tubes.

10-27-2010, 10:36 PM	#62
Half man, Half Amazing Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital Wasteland, DC Posts: 372	tube8, spankwire, extremetube, keezmovies are all owned by Manwich aka the Brazzers Network of Criminal Activity. foosball is for fags

03-29-2011, 07:51 AM	#67
Baicuk Guest Posts: n/a	like so Of course, these sites violate the law, but look on the other hand, is a platform for increasing the ranking of sites, so this is a powerful tool for promotion. Last edited by Baicuk; 03-29-2011 at 07:53 AM..

07-01-2014, 03:24 PM	#68
ScrollDog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 67	Strange face about the majority of the largest tube sites in the world that are stealing your content... They are all primarily owned by one company, and that company funded the beloved StopFileLockers (AdultKing) movement which is found here on GFY. Do you find it a bit hypocritical?

07-01-2014, 04:18 PM	#69
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Nope. Adult King isn't "funded" by them. They donated to his cause. I find it hypocritical for someone like you to try to attack a person who is the ONLY guy who has ever accomplished anything against piracy. I'm putting you on "ignore" now because you are obviously not in this business. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

01-15-2015, 08:07 PM	#72
DMRC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 56	The video looks removed now. That's good at least.

01-29-2015, 01:55 AM	#73
WDRockstar Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	Maybe that's one of the reasons they built their tube site... its no different from the other webmasters who owns a forum where you can upload private pics to. After a year they'll launch a new paysite depending on how much content they've already gotten from their subscribers :D __________________ ☆☆☆ WebDesign Rockstar ☆☆☆