SEO - Using rss feeds & duplicate content penalties - GoFuckYourself.com

American Psycho · 10-18-2009, 02:35 PM

does anyone know if using rss using a mix of different rss feeds on 1 blog counts towards duplicate content penalties?

rss feed content is without question on other sites so it would imagine it would be penalized in some way.

what if they are mixed in with my content so the whole site wont be exactly like other sites but it will have some articles that are exactly the same as to other sites articles.

how are the penalties enforced? are there partial penalties making my site a little less relevant than another with all original content or would a penalty go on the whole site and wipe it out from the SE?

to the gurus out there >> do you think this approach of mixing rss with original content is ok to create a larger blog with lots more content/articles?
OR
am i better off with less content and keeping it all unique?

Jdoughs · 10-18-2009, 02:39 PM

Depends.

Do you want to build 1000 blogs and not spend time on them, just hook them up with rss feeds and let them fly.

Or do you want to build 1 or a couple solid blogs, and spend time on them, build up traffic etc.

If you include a feed from somewhere else it is duplicated unless you physically (or with some script) rewrite the content so it is unique.

Taking blocks of rss fed content and combining them or manipulating the display of the content to be unique is possible, but unless you really know what you are doing it is also highly improbable.

American Psycho · 10-18-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Depends.

Do you want to build 1000 blogs and not spend time on them, just hook them up with rss feeds and let them fly.

Or do you want to build 1 or a couple solid blogs, and spend time on them, build up traffic etc.

If you include a feed from somewhere else it is duplicated unless you physically (or with some script) rewrite the content so it is unique.

Taking blocks of rss fed content and combining them or manipulating the display of the content to be unique is possible, but unless you really know what you are doing it is also highly improbable.

what i want to do depends on how are the duplicate penalties enforced.
are there partial penalties making my site a rank a bit lower than another with all original content or would a duplicate penalty go on the whole site and wipe out all its SERPS from the SE?

if i can get by with 1000 blogs using rss w/ no maintenance and still get some serps then ill do that and then also spend more time on some better ones.

aic1 · 10-18-2009, 04:12 PM

I dont think content duplication gets penalized as much as it used to be. Think about content aggregators like news, twitter comments, blogs in general. APIs and RSS feeds are so popular right now, that it would be unfair for google to penalize you.

Tjeezers · 10-18-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by American Psycho

what i want to do depends on how are the duplicate penalties enforced.
are there partial penalties making my site a rank a bit lower than another with all original content or would a duplicate penalty go on the whole site and wipe out all its SERPS from the SE?

if i can get by with 1000 blogs using rss w/ no maintenance and still get some serps then ill do that and then also spend more time on some better ones.

Article to understand the Duplicate Content Myth

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...t-penalty.html

Jdoughs · 10-18-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Article to understand the Duplicate Content Myth

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...t-penalty.html

That article has nothing to do with his question. And also there is no 'myth', it says 'demystifying', not myth.

That is talking about duplicate content on the same site, from the same site by means of query strings like &?color-red&?style-fulllength and not about running aggregate sites from rss fed affiliate programs (where the content is on hundreds of sites)

It says

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There are some penalties that are related to the idea of having the same content as another site?for example, if you're scraping content from other sites and republishing it, or if you republish content without adding any additional value. These tactics are clearly outlined (and discouraged) in our Webmaster Guidelines:

Which pretty much says its a no-no.

American Psycho · 10-18-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Article to understand the Duplicate Content Myth

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...t-penalty.html

good read. thx.

seems the main thing to avoid is creating multiple sites/blogs where the content is all or mostly the same as this is deemed as your intentionally trying manipulate search results and providing no value to the surfer.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 10-18-2009, 06:33 PM

duplicate content penalties are WAY overrated.

Relentless · 10-18-2009, 06:45 PM

Think of it as a sliding scale. If your site is a complete dupe of another site it will be heavilly penalized. If your site is 100% original exclusive text it will be most favored. If your site is mostly original text supplemented with quality nonexclusive content it will fall in the middle.

Keep in mind, most RSS feeds are very badly written. They contain errors, typos, mispells, illegal terms, broken links and many other problems. So when you rely on a feed, not only are you taking a hit for duplication, you are also accepting all the flaws and fuckups of the original feed. The person writing 500 feed posts is typically not going to craft the best text or anything close to the quality of a professional seo text writer.

So, what's better? A+ text that is also original or C- text that is also duplicate text?

If you want very high quality original text: www.EngineFood.com
If you want to keep costs down, at least read the feeds carefully.

Best of luck either way ;)

xsabn · 10-18-2009, 08:48 PM

duplicate content is a myth.. but having original content is better

GayIPornSteve · 10-18-2009, 09:01 PM

Just mix and match. Half RSS, half original blog writing. Best of both worlds!

American Psycho · 10-18-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xsabn

duplicate content is a myth.. but having original content is better

excessive dupe text definitely has consequences... did you read the link above?

CunningStunt · 10-18-2009, 10:09 PM

I did a test on this a year or so ago, and my domain is #1 for its chosen keyphrase - it is fed entirely from the top rss feeds available for each category on the site, about 8-10 feeds chosen per category.

I wouldn't worry about dupe issues, unless you get real lazy and only use a couple of rss feeds on the site.

Tjeezers · 10-19-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

And also there is no 'myth', it says 'demystifying', not myth.
.

I say there is a myth around it. What i read or what someone else says is not part of my opinion,, and will never be.
Actually you made no point at all.

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10-18-2009, 02:35 PM	#1
American Psycho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,068	SEO - Using rss feeds & duplicate content penalties does anyone know if using rss using a mix of different rss feeds on 1 blog counts towards duplicate content penalties? rss feed content is without question on other sites so it would imagine it would be penalized in some way. what if they are mixed in with my content so the whole site wont be exactly like other sites but it will have some articles that are exactly the same as to other sites articles. how are the penalties enforced? are there partial penalties making my site a little less relevant than another with all original content or would a penalty go on the whole site and wipe it out from the SE? to the gurus out there >> do you think this approach of mixing rss with original content is ok to create a larger blog with lots more content/articles? OR am i better off with less content and keeping it all unique?

10-18-2009, 04:12 PM	#4
aic1 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 42	I dont think content duplication gets penalized as much as it used to be. Think about content aggregators like news, twitter comments, blogs in general. APIs and RSS feeds are so popular right now, that it would be unfair for google to penalize you.

10-18-2009, 06:33 PM	#8
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	duplicate content penalties are WAY overrated.

10-18-2009, 08:48 PM	#10
xsabn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 203-069-778 Posts: 2,815	duplicate content is a myth.. but having original content is better

10-18-2009, 10:09 PM	#13
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	I did a test on this a year or so ago, and my domain is #1 for its chosen keyphrase - it is fed entirely from the top rss feeds available for each category on the site, about 8-10 feeds chosen per category. I wouldn't worry about dupe issues, unless you get real lazy and only use a couple of rss feeds on the site.