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Old 12-10-2009, 12:21 PM   #51
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:27 PM   #52
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:33 PM   #53
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i bet you don't see as many of these threads because not many people send traffic. i'm surprised someone is even owed $1200.
Most of my earnings from SatanCash is from recurring members I made when Revenue Cash was running the show. The really shitty thing is that I still have lot's of recurring members from Revenue Cash, now recurring at SatanCash..
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:36 PM   #54
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I'm solely speaking of WMs. If they don't retain it's not like the WM got $35 from you on revshare, they got % of what you earned.

Now if it doesn't retain then that's something else to look at. Either on your side or how the WM is promoting you and from what traffic source.
You missed my point completely. I should not have even mentioned retention.

This was not a PPS vs Revshare debate lol. That ones obvious
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:39 PM   #55
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2 non converting trials on revshare would cost you a few bucks max. 2 non converting trials on PPS can cost you 70 bucks.

Sorry I was not clear. My point had nothing to do with revshare vs pps.

I am talking about the number of failing programs.
Spending more than they are brining in. It is going to be very common
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Just saw PeteKT log on to ICQ. Sent him a bunch of IMs but he just ignored me..
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Sorry I was not clear. My point had nothing to do with revshare vs pps.

I am talking about the number of failing programs.
Spending more than they are brining in. It is going to be very common
Ahh okay, fair enough. I gotcha. I ran a revshare program with all the bills that you speak of and yeah, if they don't convert that blows and hurts the bottom line.

I do think though that many people who opened programs thought it was just a goldmine with little work. Oh how very wrong they are / were.

And unfortunately when some owners get their first big paycheck, it goes to houses, boats, booze, etc ... not the WMs and not back into the program.

One truly has to keep investing in their own program to keep it alive. My key example to this success is Shap and his investments back into the high quality content he put out.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:41 PM   #58
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:43 PM   #59
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I do think though that many people who opened programs thought it was just a goldmine with little work. Oh how very wrong they are / were.

And unfortunately when some owners get their first big paycheck, it goes to houses, boats, booze, etc ... not the WMs and not back into the program.
Or even there small check in todays market hehe.
Yea that is what I mean. Who would you pay last? If you know your program is going under anyways? The affiliates or your host? hehe
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:48 PM   #60
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:59 PM   #61
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bump ... i never promoted satancash ... joined them long ago tho; dunno, didnt like their fhgs or such ... good that i moved on ... good luck but the lack of replies from satancash here speaks its own language already
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:44 PM   #62
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hmmm, sucks to here that, he seems to be going strong with that intellichat deal.
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:18 PM   #64
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hmmm, sucks to here that, he seems to be going strong with that intellichat deal.
Are you refering to Petes AdultVirtualAgent.com site ? if so i dont think its connected in any way to the guys at intellichat (although I could be wrong ! )
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Bump for payment. But the fact he has skipped payment to Crazies for over a year has me doubting it will be ever seen. Hope Pete proves me wrong.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:08 AM   #66
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Hope this gets resolved.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:24 AM   #67
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Are you refering to Petes AdultVirtualAgent.com site ? if so i dont think its connected in any way to the guys at intellichat (although I could be wrong ! )
Interesting, didn't know he was in on that.

Explains a lot...
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It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
You've already seen it.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:19 PM   #71
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Are you refering to Petes AdultVirtualAgent.com site ? if so i dont think its connected in any way to the guys at intellichat (although I could be wrong ! )
You might have put your foot in your mouth on that one.


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Why its no secret all the details are on the site ? ? and I only commented that I dont think intellichat are part of it ? whats up with that?
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Wow, I haven't been on GFY in awhile. Seems to be quite a few of these threads. Pete used to post on here every day, didn't he? Hope it's just a glitch. Good luck getting paid OP.
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This is a trend you all should watch close.
I would really try to stick to the bigger programs or ccbill sponsors during these times.

So many program owners have to go get day jobs now and are just abandoning the failing programs.

Tough times guys
I agree, I never sign up to any NATS programs, only promote ccbill programs they are legit every time and pay every time.

I was going to try and promote SCash also but not now after reading this thread. Thanks for the heads up!.
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It pisses me off in threads like this when program owners don't step up and at least address the issue.

How can you trust a program when they cowardly duck an issue that is at the core of their business?

I guess that they either don't care that they are damaging their reputation, or they are hoping not enough people will see it to make an impact on them, so they just keep the money and lay low until the issue blows over (or milk their dying business until they can sell it off or it goes tits up).



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brutal- sorry to see this- pete is a nice guy- must have been in over his head
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Don't know why he didn't pay you, all I know is that they paid me and they didn't even have to.. I was below minimum payout and just asked for a favor.. I think Pete is a good guy because of that.
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Seeing threads like this makes me think.. I know Pete and would really like to think he would want to cover his name, as there are 2 sides to every story. The longer this goes on, the less people will trust this program. Pete please come in and let us know what is going on with payments. I have done lots of work for you over the years and like to think of you as being a good person.
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pretty obvious he is broke. nothing to figure out there. no one will get anything.

bro down.
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Not to pile on but he always came across as someone who wanted everyone to think he had a big time program instead of actually being someone with a big time program. All this talk of having an accounting department or PR team just seemed self-serving and superficial. Especially when it was obvious that it was a one man operation (which there is absolutely no shame in).

Businesses go belly-up all the time and if someone comes out and says it I have no problem with that. Ignoring people though is classless and selfish. Perhaps it should be no surprise that those that talk the biggest games are the ones who end up not being able to cover their bills.

And as the previous poster said, it's rather obvious the guy is broke and the program is a failure. Best to just chalk it up as a loss and let people know to avoid him.

If you want to pursue it though, this site has phone numbers on it.

http://cellitlikenew.com/contactus.html

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Don't know why he didn't pay you, all I know is that they paid me and they didn't even have to.. I was below minimum payout and just asked for a favor.. I think Pete is a good guy because of that.
Easier to pay $77.55 than $1200.
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Even better yet is the fact he will be in Vegas in Jan, and not a single person will confront him. Other than to give him high fives and buy BRO drinks. It is like that for every show.

People claim they will do this and that, and at almost every show, the chap or company is roaming around freely, and not hiding from anyone. There are no fights, or loud public verbal confrontations. Same for iBill, iPorn, Brazzers, or big tube site owners, among many many others you see at any conference.

No one ever says SHIT to them. Kinda funny.
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Not to pile on but he always came across as someone who wanted everyone to think he had a big time program instead of actually being someone with a big time program. All this talk of having an accounting department or PR team just seemed self-serving and superficial. Especially when it was obvious that it was a one man operation (which there is absolutely no shame in).

Businesses go belly-up all the time and if someone comes out and says it I have no problem with that. Ignoring people though is classless and selfish. Perhaps it should be no surprise that those that talk the biggest games are the ones who end up not being able to cover their bills.

And as the previous poster said, it's rather obvious the guy is broke and the program is a failure. Best to just chalk it up as a loss and let people know to avoid him.

If you want to pursue it though, this site has phone numbers on it.

http://cellitlikenew.com/contactus.html

BINGO ... well said. This guy pete was a 1 man army that obviously failed, but he did at least give it a try.
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Dear Mr. Pete KT,

Since I know you are reading this thread.....

Each of the last few times I have bumped into you at a show and you asked if I was pissed at you. I told you no and simply moved on about my business without further explanation. You always say you want to sit down with me and talk about whatever was bothering me. Well, this thread pretty much sums it up.

You and I have hung out a number of times over the years and although I have no personal beef with you, I know people you have fucked out of paying when you owe them.....Affiliates and others as well.

I have no interest in associating with you professionally or personally because you have fucked over and disrespected some good people and I am not very interested in being next on your growing list.

So there you have it. Now you have no need to ask me to sit down and explain it to you the next time you see me at a show.
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My only thing with companies who don't pay -- they got their money. And a business model especially in this industry should be setup to ensure you have the $$ to pay your WMs.

And when revshare WMs don't get paid - that REALLY pisses me off. There is no way to lose money on revshare traffic.
nothing worse than 3rd party processors. At least with an affiliate program, in most cases only 1/2 the money was yours that they owed to you. Damn 3rd party processors like ibill, only 15% of the money was theirs the other 85% was mine. You think it could have been possible for them to just pass that money to me like they were suppose to.... no that would be too difficult.
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Dear Mr. Pete KT,

Since I know you are reading this thread.....

Each of the last few times I have bumped into you at a show and you asked if I was pissed at you. I told you no and simply moved on about my business without further explanation. You always say you want to sit down with me and talk about whatever was bothering me. Well, this thread pretty much sums it up.

You and I have hung out a number of times over the years and although I have no personal beef with you, I know people you have fucked out of paying when you owe them.....Affiliates and others as well.

I have no interest in associating with you professionally or personally because you have fucked over and disrespected some good people and I am not very interested in being next on your growing list.

So there you have it. Now you have no need to ask me to sit down and explain it to you the next time you see me at a show.
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:22 PM   #97
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:25 PM   #98
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pete's reputation has gotten so bad not even jinthefiend and batts will hit him up for a loan anymore.
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I've always suspected that there's something evil and satanic about this particular affiliate program. Maybe that explains why they don't pay all the payments.

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1) Lies are the work of Satan
2) Thou shalt not steal
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:55 PM   #100
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