HUN, why do you continually post HOTLINKERS? (proof enclosed) - GoFuckYourself.com

ExposingCheaters · 12-21-2002, 03:57 AM

THE HUN, why do you continually list galleries from thisd hotlinker http://gallery.soakedmovies.com/12/14/index.htm who is hotlinking his movies from comcast.net? My friend has sent you many emails regarding this, each time you have promised to not list him anymore, but every week, he gets listed, using stolen bandwidth from comcast.net

All you have to do is make a small adjustment to your script to not allow him to hotlink, yet you don't. You say you will take action, but you don't. How would you like it if someone was hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth and making a profit at your expense?

You take a stance against Gator, against popups, against dialers, yet there are hotlinkers posting to your site, and you don't do anything. So on what side of the fense do you really lie on HUN?

ISP's keep going out of business because of hotlinking thieves like this guy. Sure, it is your site HUN, you can do what you want. But if you choose to ignore hotlinking, then how dare you take a stance against other 'immoral' things. Or is it that Mr. Hun only cares about the freeloading surfer? Is it that Mr. HUN would rather ISP's lose money, as long as his surfers get to jerk one off on his site.

WITH THAT SAID:
time for me to expose our first major hotlinker. He posts here, on AWI, and alot of other boards. He owns many big sites. And he is a thief. He steals bandwidth from comcast, shaw, and aol.

HIS INFO:
ICQ NICK: Madball ICQ #: 13914535
EMAIL: [email protected]
SITE: http://www.moviehaven.org/

**LOOK AT ALL HIS GALLERIES AND ALL THE HOTLINKING. FEEL FREE TO USE HIS MOVIES, HIS BANDWIDTH, HIS DESIGN, HIS THUMBS, WHATEVERE. I AM SURE HE WILL NOT MIND SINCE HE LIKES STEALING AS WELL**

http://www.moviehaven.org/mp367.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp366.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp365.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp364.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp363.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp362.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp361.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp360.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp359.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp358.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp357.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp356.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp355.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp354.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp353.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp352.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp351.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp350.html
http://www.moviehaven.org/mp349.html

LET IT BE WARNED. EVERY HOTLINKER AND CONTENT STEALER OUT THERE, I WILL MAKE IT MY MISSION IN LIFE TO EXPOSE YOU ALL. I WILL NOT STAND BY AND WATCH YOU THIEVES STEAL BANDWIDTH AND MAKE A PROFIT WHILE HONEST WEBMASTERS LIKE ME HAVE TO PAY FOR BANDWIDTH, CONTENT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT IS TIME FOR THE HONEST GUYS TO COME OUT AHEAD.

THE BANDWIDTH THIEVES ARE EVERYWHERE, I KNOW ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE I AM PART OF THE MGP COMMUNITY. I TRADE WITH THEM, I LIST THEIR GALLERIES, I SUBMIT MY GALLERIES TO THEM. I KNOW THEM INSIDE AND OUT. AND FROM NOW ON, I WILL EXPOSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. EITHER CHANGE YOUR WAYS RIGHT NOW, OR FEEL MY WRATH.

cheaters, your day has come. you have made your bed, now you will lie in it.

funkmaster · 12-21-2002, 04:00 AM

.. caps locked ?

quiet · 12-21-2002, 04:03 AM

content theft sucks indeed.

Dveron · 12-21-2002, 04:03 AM

This is a novel way of spamming moviehaven.org. I like it

the Shemp · 12-21-2002, 04:05 AM

I'm always looking for good movie galleries

shemp

DarkJedi · 12-21-2002, 04:05 AM

oh oh..

pr0 · 12-21-2002, 04:12 AM

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

People hosting on aol & comcast...who gives a fuck they both suck & put a cap on peoples line bandwidth, too bad they can't figure out how to do it for their homepages

SR · 12-21-2002, 04:43 AM

Yeah pretty fucked that he list that kinda galleries.
Everybody has to pay their hosting bills so if you can't you should get out of the bizz

m0rph3us · 12-21-2002, 04:48 AM

I'm sure Comcast will send out thier simpathy for you protecting their business. Let me guess @Home went bankrups because of hotlinkers too ?

FYI, when you signup for an ISP in North America, you usually get a free 10-20MB space and you can do whatever you want with it. You pay a monthly bill you know. If the ISP doesn't impose limits that's their problem not yours. Just play along and start worrying about your own shit and not the welfare of ISPs

SR · 12-21-2002, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
I'm sure Comcast will send out thier simpathy for you protecting their business. Let me guess @Home went bankrups because of hotlinkers too ?

FYI, when you signup for an ISP in North America, you usually get a free 10-20MB space and you can do whatever you want with it. You pay a monthly bill you know. If the ISP doesn't impose limits that's their problem not yours. Just play along and start worrying about your own shit and not the welfare of ISPs

Bullshit
There are tons of people that have dozens of aol, comcast or whatever kinda accounts.
We pay for our bandwidth and so should they.
They can offer 3 bigazz movies and don't have to worry about the bandwidth bill.
Or why not all use stolen content?

m0rph3us · 12-21-2002, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SR

Bullshit
There are tons of people that have dozens of aol, comcast or whatever kinda accounts.
We pay for our bandwidth and so should they.
They can offer 3 bigazz movies and don't have to worry about the bandwidth bill.
Or why not all use stolen content?

your post makes no sense dude. What are you calling bullshit to.... The fact that ISPs don't limit bandwidth or the fact you get free webspace with your ISP account ?

SR · 12-21-2002, 05:02 AM

I do not really care that a company like AOL loses money because of this tho it's still stealing.....
I call it messed up that people that do not pay for their own bandwidth get listed above people that do pay their own bills.
They can put 3 3meg movies on their gallery and will get listed above the people that pay for their shit.

MichaelH · 12-21-2002, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
I'm sure Comcast will send out thier simpathy for you protecting their business. Let me guess @Home went bankrups because of hotlinkers too ?

FYI, when you signup for an ISP in North America, you usually get a free 10-20MB space and you can do whatever you want with it. You pay a monthly bill you know. If the ISP doesn't impose limits that's their problem not yours. Just play along and start worrying about your own shit and not the welfare of ISPs

M0rph3us, YOUR post doesn't make sense, amigo. You know first hand that it's not about using one and a single aol or whatever account. It's about the professional (not in terms of professionalism, but in terms of commercial use) daily ripping of HUNDREDS of free ISP accounts, which is obviously a theft of services and for those hotlinking others domains as well, theft of content too...

Go figure why most movieposts require 1mb+ files for movies : Most (not all) of the listed galleries are on free ISP bandwidth.

It's a problem to the whole of the adult industry, since those posting huge freebies have a huge advantage to those paying legitimatelly for their own bandwidth....

So, i fully agree with the initial post! Good someone got the guts to expose them! Thumbs up for that action!

Michael

PS : I gotta agree that those free ISPs are super-dumb not to protect themselves, though. Still, it's no reason to abuse that.

Mutt · 12-21-2002, 05:12 AM

an Adult Bouncer webmaster, my my.......what a surprise.

funkmaster · 12-21-2002, 05:47 AM

... why don´t we just give away everything for free, I think the minimum sized of the movie should be 50MB and it has to be hosted at aol ...

exspamr · 12-21-2002, 06:17 AM

this guy is saving money, why hate on him for that... as its been said before comcast gives you space to do whatever you wish with it... if you are on a crusade to stop this stuff i think you have too much time on your hands... unless someone is stealing YOUR bandwidth or content who cares

mrbling · 12-21-2002, 06:24 AM

exposingcheater is like the little boy who can't play with other boys,

why don't you run back to mommy because the other kids are beating your ass.

HAHAHa reporting to thehun, HAHAHA , report to comcast for better results you retard, and if they don't listen,
WHO THE FUCK CARES.

stupid idiots like exposingcheater actually make me take 2 minutes to post this.

XXX_Jman · 12-21-2002, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ExposingCheaters
He steals bandwidth from comcast, shaw, and aol.

who the fuck cares?

Sambuka · 12-21-2002, 06:31 AM

Ohh for fucks sake, I thought after reading your shit ass message that you were getting hot linked from this guy DAY IN DAY OUT!! But no I read some more and your just bitching that there using there ISP accounts to host the movies.

WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM HERE????

Get a life dude, sure complain if he stole your content or is hotlinking your bandwidth but NOT if he is linking to a valid homepage account on a company worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and who aren't going to miss a few extra gigs here and there.

Amazing what people bitch about these days.

Oh and its not up to thehun of all people to remove his galleries there good, why remove something thats not hurting anybody. And AOL or some ISP can't be harmed, they pay 0.05 cent a gig.

Sammy

funkmaster · 12-21-2002, 06:34 AM

"NOT if he is linking to a valid homepage account on a company worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and who aren't going to miss a few extra gigs here and there."

... maybe it´s just the extra bandwith they need to get into direct peering with another upstream provider ... could be this guy actually makes the company some money ... ever thought about that ?

DjSap · 12-21-2002, 06:40 AM

Just email comcast and ask:

Do you have something against me uploading 10mb of pornographic movies to my website account and then letting 10k of people to download them even though I don't know if they are above 18 or not?

If they answer "just go ahead" then he isn't doing anything wrong.

Dirty F · 12-21-2002, 06:46 AM

I do wonder who the hotlinker is...he posts here and on awi.

Scootermuze · 12-21-2002, 06:51 AM

I'm more curious as to how the guy gets listed on the Hun 'every week'...

Most of us hardly get listed at all..

jimmyf · 12-21-2002, 06:53 AM

I'm pretty sure all (Comcast, Shaw, AT&T and AOL) it says in there TOS's no porn, so contact them. About Thehun not listing him is another thing, some people hotlink there own banners and maybe there own pics. Don't understand why you think it 's Thehun's problem me self.

polish_aristocrat · 12-21-2002, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by exspamr
this guy is saving money, why hate on him for that... unless someone is stealing YOUR bandwidth or content who cares

I can't share your point of view.
I am honest, that means that I pay for my bandwith ( actually I don't pay, I use Revshare Hosting

) and this guy doesn't pay for it. Perhaps for the money he saves on bandwith he hires some good designers and that's why his galerries are listed so often. It's definetely at least unfair competition - instead of him, The Hun could list my gallery or yours.

mephisto · 12-21-2002, 07:30 AM

Alright exposing cheaters or whoever you are. You sound like a twelve year old retard who doesn't know the adult biz.

baddog · 12-21-2002, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
I'm more curious as to how the guy gets listed on the Hun 'every week'...

Most of us hardly get listed at all..

you pay for that usually

HQ · 12-21-2002, 09:03 AM

I thought soakedmovies.com stopped all that shit???

Gemini · 12-21-2002, 09:16 AM

Talk about a thread full of corrupt senses of values... Did ANY of your parents teach you ANYthing about values or how to behave?? Or were they all the politically correct parents that never chastised you (or better... took a board to your rearside) when you did something not acceptable??

But then some of these names here are also the people that cry when someone steals THEIR stuff, abd they notcied the theft while they, themselves were stealing someone elses work via napster, kazaa, bearshare... (and then cry some more when the pirate enabling kazaa jacks your browsers) Talk about funny!!

Get a clue kiddies... real LIFE... break a LAW and PAY for it. No time outs, no "you don't get dessert". A Terms of Service agreement is a binding contract in alot of instances... If it says NO adult, porn etc, thats what it means... Some of you would argue, but *I* don't have adult content, or porn on that page... it's SMUT. Using Symantics to try and squirm out of getting your neck in a noose.

Now for the case at hand... if a tgp owner is duly notified that somone is committing a crime (NOTE: Theft of Services)... it IS now that tgp owners business to follow up and verify that fact... and if it IS a TOS violation, to cease and desist helping that person or then they are guilty of being an accessory to the crime. Think again if you think a international border protects you. A huge TGP committing this accessory act can quickly run up a BW theft bill that would make it HIGHLY probable that they will be served sooner or later.

Laugh all you want children. But the law IS moving in to the internet area and this will no longer be tolerated. So when you get smacked down for misbehaving, don't whine about it. Better yet, if you get arrested...?? We will have something to laugh about.

In the long run, the guys doing business this way hurt all of us that do the business right. (ie: PAY for the services we require...) The more YOU stand up for jerks like this, the worse YOU look ... might make people start to re-evaluate how YOU are doing business... Get the drift?? You are sinking your own rear sides slowly but surely.

And when the laws get even MORE strict on us... think back to your mealy mouthed little half *ssed stances from threads like this. Is theft of services, Smart business or (one of) the straws that help to break the camels back?

lil2rich4u2 · 12-21-2002, 09:25 AM

i completely agree with the last reply.

ExposingCheaters, good luck

gemini, Thanks for having some balls.

Shaggy · 12-21-2002, 12:20 PM

bump

Easy · 12-21-2002, 12:41 PM

report him to the german authorities.. free porn is illegal there

Whois info for, MOVIEHAVEN.ORG:
Registrant:
Adultbouncer/Moviehaven AVS site
Kaukenberg 22
Paderborn, Germany 20922
DE

Domain Name: MOVIEHAVEN.ORG

Administrative Contact:
Szpak, David [email protected]
Kaukenberg 22
Paderborn, Germany 20922
DE
49-40-3498344

Technical Contact:
Hostmaster, OI [email protected]
34A Avondale Blvd.
P.O. Box #83036
Brampton, Ontario L6T1H0
CA
111-111-1111
Fax: 111-111-1111

JimmyReject · 12-21-2002, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ExposingCheaters

LET IT BE WARNED. EVERY HOTLINKER AND CONTENT STEALER OUT THERE, I WILL MAKE IT MY MISSION IN LIFE TO EXPOSE YOU ALL.

Your life is going to be FUN!

m0rph3us · 12-21-2002, 02:37 PM

you talk about ethics? GIve me a fucking break. This business is not based on ethics. Tricking a surfer into thinking they are getting free access and then receiving that pretty 39.95 or 49.95 recurring bill is not ethics. Dialers are ethical ? There are people doing worse shit that a guy who hotlinks from his ISP account's free webspace and they made tens of millions of dollars why not go after them ? Because they are the huge sponsors and corporations we all love. What about spamming? Is that ethical? that makes hundreds of millions if not billions online.. you going to go report every spammer on spamcop?

I would worry more about your own shti and getting your own galleries listed with your cogent bandwidth than 'exposing cheaters'

give me a break

Cohen · 12-21-2002, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy
report him to the german authorities.. free porn is illegal there

hahahahahaah - who told you that ?

[The Leader] · 12-21-2002, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
you talk about ethics? GIve me a fucking break. This business is not based on ethics. Tricking a surfer into thinking they are getting free access and then receiving that pretty 39.95 or 49.95 recurring bill is not ethics. Dialers are ethical ? There are people doing worse shit that a guy who hotlinks from his ISP account's free webspace and they made tens of millions of dollars why not go after them ? Because they are the huge sponsors and corporations we all love. What about spamming? Is that ethical? that makes hundreds of millions if not billions online.. you going to go report every spammer on spamcop?

I would worry more about your own shti and getting your own galleries listed with your cogent bandwidth than 'exposing cheaters'

give me a break

People like you are one of the biggest problems in this business

m0rph3us · 12-21-2002, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [The Leader]

People like you are one of the biggest problems in this business

huh?

SpeakEasy · 12-21-2002, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
you talk about ethics? GIve me a fucking break. This business is not based on ethics. Tricking a surfer into thinking they are getting free access and then receiving that pretty 39.95 or 49.95 recurring bill is not ethics. Dialers are ethical ? There are people doing worse shit that a guy who hotlinks from his ISP account's free webspace and they made tens of millions of dollars why not go after them ? Because they are the huge sponsors and corporations we all love. What about spamming? Is that ethical? that makes hundreds of millions if not billions online.. you going to go report every spammer on spamcop?

I would worry more about your own shti and getting your own galleries listed with your cogent bandwidth than 'exposing cheaters'

give me a break

Maybe this is a surprise to you, but some of us actually DO have ethics. This is a business like any other business, and should be treated as such. If you steal in the "real" world you go to jail, so why is the internet adult industry any different??? In the real world if you have been notified about a crime being commited in your store and you do nothing to try to stop it, you are quilty yourself, so if the Hun knows about this theft of bandwidth and does nothing to try to stop it, he's guilty also.

Some of you just think the adult internet biz is just some shady way to make a few bucks for beer and party money....Then their are some of us that treat it as a Real business and respect ethics, and laws like we should !!

m0rph3us · 12-21-2002, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpeakEasy

Maybe this is a surprise to you, but some of us actually DO have ethics. This is a business like any other business, and should be treated as such. If you steal in the "real" world you go to jail, so why is the internet adult industry any different??? In the real world if you have been notified about a crime being commited in your store and you do nothing to try to stop it, you are quilty yourself, so if the Hun knows about this theft of bandwidth and does nothing to try to stop it, he's guilty also.

Some of you just think the adult internet biz is just some shady way to make a few bucks for beer and party money....Then their are some of us that treat it as a Real business and respect ethics, and laws like we should !!

dude I'm not saying I do any of the things mentioned above, I'm just wondering why this thread emphasizes people who hotlink from their ISPs account vs. other types of cheaters that do worse things.

My statement 'this business is not based on ethics' is wrong.. what I meant to say is that there is a shitload of money being made by some of the huge companies and the methods used are not ethical.

boldy · 12-21-2002, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

People hosting on aol & comcast...who gives a fuck they both suck & put a cap on peoples line bandwidth, too bad they can't figure out how to do it for their homepages

That pic fucking rox! Reminds me of my father ...

Easy · 12-22-2002, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cohen

hahahahahaah - who told you that ?

the german authorities... I'm living in the Netherlands. They wrote me a letter and told me to protect my sites against minors. Have heared about a lot of guys form all over the world who received such letters. So if you're a 'free' porn webmaster and you travel to Germany they can arrest you. If you're living in Germany or even worse, you are german, then you'e fucked. Just try.. go there and tell the police you have some porn sites, hehehe.. you'll see what happens. Even if you have paysites you're fucked.. cause CC auth isn't enough.

Hope you still can laugh, dude

pr0 · 12-22-2002, 09:22 AM

You guys crack my shit up, if aol & comcast were not benefitting from these million of gigs being downloaded per-day they would not be allowing it to happen.

Caps are easy to install, yet when i try to download one of these movies off comcast i get 300-400k easy, aol has been stepping up lately to curb this though (either that or their servers are overloaded) cuz i only get 40k off them.

This same argument was made over terra accounts last year, guess what...people are still using terra.

If someone is using their OWN aol or comcast account they are NOT STEALING, its their fucking space...TOS OR NOT.

Cheeba Filas · 12-22-2002, 12:33 PM

You are all Pimp's, face it. You sell ass, men and women for a fee. You can play that bullshit "I have business ethics" if you like. Go to the bank and tell them you want to get a loan to start a porn site. No matter how much ethics you think you have, THIS IS FUCKING PORN. It's dirty and nasty and that's why we love it. But we must respect it I agree. 95% of us are here because we don't want to wear a suit and tie everyday. Have the boss looking over our shoulder asking if we are finished. We can miss spell shit, wake up late, spend hours at the strip club and call it a work day. And know that one if not all of our programs make money. FUCK AOL, FUCK COMCAST, FUCK EM' ALL. Don't hate someone for making money. Hell this country was built on thieves, liars, and dealers look at Bill Gates, Clinton, The Bushes, The Fucking Kennedy's, My mom. MAKE MONEY BE HAPPY, GET RICH.

Sambuka · 12-22-2002, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
you talk about ethics? GIve me a fucking break. This business is not based on ethics. Tricking a surfer into thinking they are getting free access and then receiving that pretty 39.95 or 49.95 recurring bill is not ethics. Dialers are ethical ? There are people doing worse shit that a guy who hotlinks from his ISP account's free webspace and they made tens of millions of dollars why not go after them ? Because they are the huge sponsors and corporations we all love. What about spamming? Is that ethical? that makes hundreds of millions if not billions online.. you going to go report every spammer on spamcop?

I would worry more about your own shti and getting your own galleries listed with your cogent bandwidth than 'exposing cheaters'

give me a break

WELL SAID!!! I mean I get spams everyday from naughtmail linking to sites offering 100% free memberships, they say only in front size -5 at the bottom of the page int he middle of 500 words that they are really buying a membership for $49.95. Its a total RIP OFF and so is everything the porn biz is assocaciated with.

Gemini umm take a chill pill and stop worrying about stupid ass laws that big corperations don't give a shit about. You really think someone is going to sue the hun for burning a few extra gigs when they buy it that cheap??? You really think they will go after thehun.com instead of just closing the account as usual?? If anything they can sue the owner of the account but he can just say it wasn't him. They don't care its nothing to them, you making a big deal out of nothing and m0rph3us GREAT post!

Sammy

Sambuka · 12-22-2002, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy

the german authorities... I'm living in the Netherlands. They wrote me a letter and told me to protect my sites against minors. Have heared about a lot of guys form all over the world who received such letters. So if you're a 'free' porn webmaster and you travel to Germany they can arrest you. If you're living in Germany or even worse, you are german, then you'e fucked. Just try.. go there and tell the police you have some porn sites, hehehe.. you'll see what happens. Even if you have paysites you're fucked.. cause CC auth isn't enough.

Hope you still can laugh, dude

Just another reason why its great to register your domains to a fake name.

Sammy

jojojo · 12-22-2002, 01:05 PM

A few gigs lol - think about it?

The average tgper does 100k/day x 3mb movie = 300 gigs/day = 10,000 gigs/mth x 100 wm's = 1,000,000 Gigs/mth

The ISP's are complete idiots.

BTW - who does comcast and aol pay for their bandwidth?

m0rph3us · 12-22-2002, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
A few gigs lol - think about it?

The average tgper does 100k/day x 3mb movie = 300 gigs/day = 10,000 gigs/mth x 100 wm's = 1,000,000 Gigs/mth

The ISP's are complete idiots.

BTW - who does comcast and aol pay for their bandwidth?

I wouldn't be surprised if they allow this on purpose to match their pull traffic with the push traffic.

Brad Mitchell · 12-22-2002, 03:39 PM

It's his site he can post anything he wants.

Unless a page is labeled as "I'm a hotlinking motherfucker" there's no way to know if it's hotlinked even if the content is on another url then the HTML.

I've always purchased all my content and I hate thieves... but there's only so many hours in a day to be so thorough.

Brad

[The Leader] · 12-22-2002, 03:43 PM

m0rph3us, I wonder why you're defending him, could it be because you're a hotlinker yourself? Why don't you show us all what movie sites you run, if you're not ashamed. I wonder where you're hotlinking your sample movies from...s***.ca?

HungSolo · 12-22-2002, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrbling
exposingcheater is like the little boy who can't play with other boys,

why don't you run back to mommy because the other kids are beating your ass.

HAHAHa reporting to thehun, HAHAHA , report to comcast for better results you retard, and if they don't listen,
WHO THE FUCK CARES.

stupid idiots like exposingcheater actually make me take 2 minutes to post this.

You are an idiot.

12-21-2002, 03:57 AM	#1
ExposingCheaters Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1	HUN, why do you continually post HOTLINKERS? (proof enclosed) THE HUN, why do you continually list galleries from thisd hotlinker http://gallery.soakedmovies.com/12/14/index.htm who is hotlinking his movies from comcast.net? My friend has sent you many emails regarding this, each time you have promised to not list him anymore, but every week, he gets listed, using stolen bandwidth from comcast.net All you have to do is make a small adjustment to your script to not allow him to hotlink, yet you don't. You say you will take action, but you don't. How would you like it if someone was hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth and making a profit at your expense? You take a stance against Gator, against popups, against dialers, yet there are hotlinkers posting to your site, and you don't do anything. So on what side of the fense do you really lie on HUN? ISP's keep going out of business because of hotlinking thieves like this guy. Sure, it is your site HUN, you can do what you want. But if you choose to ignore hotlinking, then how dare you take a stance against other 'immoral' things. Or is it that Mr. Hun only cares about the freeloading surfer? Is it that Mr. HUN would rather ISP's lose money, as long as his surfers get to jerk one off on his site. WITH THAT SAID: time for me to expose our first major hotlinker. He posts here, on AWI, and alot of other boards. He owns many big sites. And he is a thief. He steals bandwidth from comcast, shaw, and aol. HIS INFO: ICQ NICK: Madball ICQ #: 13914535 EMAIL: [email protected] SITE: http://www.moviehaven.org/ LOOK AT ALL HIS GALLERIES AND ALL THE HOTLINKING. FEEL FREE TO USE HIS MOVIES, HIS BANDWIDTH, HIS DESIGN, HIS THUMBS, WHATEVERE. I AM SURE HE WILL NOT MIND SINCE HE LIKES STEALING AS WELL http://www.moviehaven.org/mp367.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp366.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp365.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp364.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp363.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp362.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp361.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp360.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp359.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp358.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp357.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp356.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp355.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp354.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp353.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp352.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp351.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp350.html http://www.moviehaven.org/mp349.html LET IT BE WARNED. EVERY HOTLINKER AND CONTENT STEALER OUT THERE, I WILL MAKE IT MY MISSION IN LIFE TO EXPOSE YOU ALL. I WILL NOT STAND BY AND WATCH YOU THIEVES STEAL BANDWIDTH AND MAKE A PROFIT WHILE HONEST WEBMASTERS LIKE ME HAVE TO PAY FOR BANDWIDTH, CONTENT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT IS TIME FOR THE HONEST GUYS TO COME OUT AHEAD. THE BANDWIDTH THIEVES ARE EVERYWHERE, I KNOW ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE I AM PART OF THE MGP COMMUNITY. I TRADE WITH THEM, I LIST THEIR GALLERIES, I SUBMIT MY GALLERIES TO THEM. I KNOW THEM INSIDE AND OUT. AND FROM NOW ON, I WILL EXPOSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. EITHER CHANGE YOUR WAYS RIGHT NOW, OR FEEL MY WRATH. cheaters, your day has come. you have made your bed, now you will lie in it. __________________ If you are a cheater, you better hope I don' t come across you.

12-21-2002, 04:03 AM	#3
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	content theft sucks indeed. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

12-21-2002, 04:05 AM	#5
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	I'm always looking for good movie galleries shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

12-21-2002, 04:48 AM	#9
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	I'm sure Comcast will send out thier simpathy for you protecting their business. Let me guess @Home went bankrups because of hotlinkers too ? FYI, when you signup for an ISP in North America, you usually get a free 10-20MB space and you can do whatever you want with it. You pay a monthly bill you know. If the ISP doesn't impose limits that's their problem not yours. Just play along and start worrying about your own shit and not the welfare of ISPs __________________ <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Get paid $25 per signup</a> listing over <a href="http://galleries.18blowjobs.com/hosted.html" target="_blank">100 free hosted video galleries</a> - <a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Check it</a> » </font>

12-21-2002, 05:12 AM	#14
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	an Adult Bouncer webmaster, my my.......what a surprise. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-21-2002, 04:00 AM	#2
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	.. caps locked ?

12-21-2002, 04:03 AM	#4
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	This is a novel way of spamming moviehaven.org. I like it

12-21-2002, 04:05 AM	#6
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	oh oh..

12-21-2002, 04:12 AM	#7
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! People hosting on aol & comcast...who gives a fuck they both suck & put a cap on peoples line bandwidth, too bad they can't figure out how to do it for their homepages

12-21-2002, 04:43 AM	#8
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Yeah pretty fucked that he list that kinda galleries. Everybody has to pay their hosting bills so if you can't you should get out of the bizz

12-21-2002, 05:02 AM	#12
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	I do not really care that a company like AOL loses money because of this tho it's still stealing..... I call it messed up that people that do not pay for their own bandwidth get listed above people that do pay their own bills. They can put 3 3meg movies on their gallery and will get listed above the people that pay for their shit.

12-21-2002, 05:47 AM	#15
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... why don´t we just give away everything for free, I think the minimum sized of the movie should be 50MB and it has to be hosted at aol ...

12-21-2002, 06:17 AM	#16
exspamr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,427	this guy is saving money, why hate on him for that... as its been said before comcast gives you space to do whatever you wish with it... if you are on a crusade to stop this stuff i think you have too much time on your hands... unless someone is stealing YOUR bandwidth or content who cares

12-21-2002, 06:24 AM	#17
mrbling Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 365	exposingcheater is like the little boy who can't play with other boys, why don't you run back to mommy because the other kids are beating your ass. HAHAHa reporting to thehun, HAHAHA , report to comcast for better results you retard, and if they don't listen, WHO THE FUCK CARES. stupid idiots like exposingcheater actually make me take 2 minutes to post this. __________________ millionare by 18 , beat that hOES

12-21-2002, 06:31 AM	#19
Sambuka Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: - Posts: 500	Ohh for fucks sake, I thought after reading your shit ass message that you were getting hot linked from this guy DAY IN DAY OUT!! But no I read some more and your just bitching that there using there ISP accounts to host the movies. WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM HERE???? Get a life dude, sure complain if he stole your content or is hotlinking your bandwidth but NOT if he is linking to a valid homepage account on a company worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and who aren't going to miss a few extra gigs here and there. Amazing what people bitch about these days. Oh and its not up to thehun of all people to remove his galleries there good, why remove something thats not hurting anybody. And AOL or some ISP can't be harmed, they pay 0.05 cent a gig. Sammy

12-21-2002, 06:34 AM	#20
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"NOT if he is linking to a valid homepage account on a company worth BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and who aren't going to miss a few extra gigs here and there." ... maybe it´s just the extra bandwith they need to get into direct peering with another upstream provider ... could be this guy actually makes the company some money ... ever thought about that ?

12-21-2002, 06:40 AM	#21
DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	Just email comcast and ask: Do you have something against me uploading 10mb of pornographic movies to my website account and then letting 10k of people to download them even though I don't know if they are above 18 or not? If they answer "just go ahead" then he isn't doing anything wrong.

12-21-2002, 06:46 AM	#22
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I do wonder who the hotlinker is...he posts here and on awi.

12-21-2002, 06:51 AM	#23
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	I'm more curious as to how the guy gets listed on the Hun 'every week'... Most of us hardly get listed at all..

12-21-2002, 06:53 AM	#24
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	I'm pretty sure all (Comcast, Shaw, AT&T and AOL) it says in there TOS's no porn, so contact them. About Thehun not listing him is another thing, some people hotlink there own banners and maybe there own pics. Don't understand why you think it 's Thehun's problem me self. __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

12-21-2002, 07:30 AM	#26
mephisto Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 60	Alright exposing cheaters or whoever you are. You sound like a twelve year old retard who doesn't know the adult biz. Last edited by mephisto; 12-21-2002 at 07:33 AM..

12-21-2002, 09:03 AM	#28
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	I thought soakedmovies.com stopped all that shit???

12-21-2002, 09:16 AM	#29
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Talk about a thread full of corrupt senses of values... Did ANY of your parents teach you ANYthing about values or how to behave?? Or were they all the politically correct parents that never chastised you (or better... took a board to your rearside) when you did something not acceptable?? But then some of these names here are also the people that cry when someone steals THEIR stuff, abd they notcied the theft while they, themselves were stealing someone elses work via napster, kazaa, bearshare... (and then cry some more when the pirate enabling kazaa jacks your browsers) Talk about funny!! Get a clue kiddies... real LIFE... break a LAW and PAY for it. No time outs, no "you don't get dessert". A Terms of Service agreement is a binding contract in alot of instances... If it says NO adult, porn etc, thats what it means... Some of you would argue, but I don't have adult content, or porn on that page... it's SMUT. Using Symantics to try and squirm out of getting your neck in a noose. Now for the case at hand... if a tgp owner is duly notified that somone is committing a crime (NOTE: Theft of Services)... it IS now that tgp owners business to follow up and verify that fact... and if it IS a TOS violation, to cease and desist helping that person or then they are guilty of being an accessory to the crime. Think again if you think a international border protects you. A huge TGP committing this accessory act can quickly run up a BW theft bill that would make it HIGHLY probable that they will be served sooner or later. Laugh all you want children. But the law IS moving in to the internet area and this will no longer be tolerated. So when you get smacked down for misbehaving, don't whine about it. Better yet, if you get arrested...?? We will have something to laugh about. In the long run, the guys doing business this way hurt all of us that do the business right. (ie: PAY for the services we require...) The more YOU stand up for jerks like this, the worse YOU look ... might make people start to re-evaluate how YOU are doing business... Get the drift?? You are sinking your own rear sides slowly but surely. And when the laws get even MORE strict on us... think back to your mealy mouthed little half *ssed stances from threads like this. Is theft of services, Smart business or (one of) the straws that help to break the camels back?

12-21-2002, 09:25 AM	#30
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	i completely agree with the last reply. ExposingCheaters, good luck gemini, Thanks for having some balls. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

12-21-2002, 12:20 PM	#31
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	bump

12-21-2002, 12:41 PM	#32
Easy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Backyard Posts: 79	report him to the german authorities.. free porn is illegal there Whois info for, MOVIEHAVEN.ORG: Registrant: Adultbouncer/Moviehaven AVS site Kaukenberg 22 Paderborn, Germany 20922 DE Domain Name: MOVIEHAVEN.ORG Administrative Contact: Szpak, David [email protected] Kaukenberg 22 Paderborn, Germany 20922 DE 49-40-3498344 Technical Contact: Hostmaster, OI [email protected] 34A Avondale Blvd. P.O. Box #83036 Brampton, Ontario L6T1H0 CA 111-111-1111 Fax: 111-111-1111

12-21-2002, 02:37 PM	#34
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	you talk about ethics? GIve me a fucking break. This business is not based on ethics. Tricking a surfer into thinking they are getting free access and then receiving that pretty 39.95 or 49.95 recurring bill is not ethics. Dialers are ethical ? There are people doing worse shit that a guy who hotlinks from his ISP account's free webspace and they made tens of millions of dollars why not go after them ? Because they are the huge sponsors and corporations we all love. What about spamming? Is that ethical? that makes hundreds of millions if not billions online.. you going to go report every spammer on spamcop? I would worry more about your own shti and getting your own galleries listed with your cogent bandwidth than 'exposing cheaters' give me a break __________________ <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Get paid $25 per signup</a> listing over <a href="http://galleries.18blowjobs.com/hosted.html" target="_blank">100 free hosted video galleries</a> - <a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Check it</a> » </font>

12-22-2002, 09:22 AM	#42
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	You guys crack my shit up, if aol & comcast were not benefitting from these million of gigs being downloaded per-day they would not be allowing it to happen. Caps are easy to install, yet when i try to download one of these movies off comcast i get 300-400k easy, aol has been stepping up lately to curb this though (either that or their servers are overloaded) cuz i only get 40k off them. This same argument was made over terra accounts last year, guess what...people are still using terra. If someone is using their OWN aol or comcast account they are NOT STEALING, its their fucking space...TOS OR NOT.

12-22-2002, 12:33 PM	#43
Cheeba Filas Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	You are all Pimp's, face it. You sell ass, men and women for a fee. You can play that bullshit "I have business ethics" if you like. Go to the bank and tell them you want to get a loan to start a porn site. No matter how much ethics you think you have, THIS IS FUCKING PORN. It's dirty and nasty and that's why we love it. But we must respect it I agree. 95% of us are here because we don't want to wear a suit and tie everyday. Have the boss looking over our shoulder asking if we are finished. We can miss spell shit, wake up late, spend hours at the strip club and call it a work day. And know that one if not all of our programs make money. FUCK AOL, FUCK COMCAST, FUCK EM' ALL. Don't hate someone for making money. Hell this country was built on thieves, liars, and dealers look at Bill Gates, Clinton, The Bushes, The Fucking Kennedy's, My mom. MAKE MONEY BE HAPPY, GET RICH.

12-22-2002, 01:05 PM	#46
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	A few gigs lol - think about it? The average tgper does 100k/day x 3mb movie = 300 gigs/day = 10,000 gigs/mth x 100 wm's = 1,000,000 Gigs/mth The ISP's are complete idiots. BTW - who does comcast and aol pay for their bandwidth? __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

12-22-2002, 03:39 PM	#48
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	It's his site he can post anything he wants. Unless a page is labeled as "I'm a hotlinking motherfucker" there's no way to know if it's hotlinked even if the content is on another url then the HTML. I've always purchased all my content and I hate thieves... but there's only so many hours in a day to be so thorough. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

12-22-2002, 03:43 PM	#49
[The Leader] Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Van City Posts: 1,026	m0rph3us, I wonder why you're defending him, could it be because you're a hotlinker yourself? Why don't you show us all what movie sites you run, if you're not ashamed. I wonder where you're hotlinking your sample movies from...s***.ca?