If you sent HALF A MILLION UNIQUES to a sponsor, how much would expect it to earn? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Dave-U · 03-31-2010, 10:01 AM

Now would be a pretty good time to send all that traffic to a new source - and get double of what you would elsewhere

see sig for details...

CunningStunt · 03-31-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEO Expert

StunningCunt, am I doing bad?

BTW, that's my own traffics.

As i understand you are buying your (adsence maybe)

Incorrect, I don't buy traffic. In fact I was banned from adwords in 2003 for calling them useless assholes.

TheDoc · 03-31-2010, 01:22 PM

I buy non-ppc traffic and send it to dating companies... One being aff, works out well enough to keep renewing the deals.

Traffic Quality : 211 uniques per FREE signup

LeRoy · 03-31-2010, 01:28 PM

Is the 160k including your rebills from older sales?

CunningStunt · 03-31-2010, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Is the 160k including your rebills from older sales?

Yes. They retain customers well.

As for the Marilyn Manson guy, he bought the majority of that traffic, mainly because AFF were doubling their payout for the month. I doubt he would have made much of a profit without the promo.

Robbie · 03-31-2010, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

I'm interested in finding out.

Screencaps are welcome.

I cropped the top 15 from stats remote. All traffic straight from my tgps:

CunningStunt · 03-31-2010, 05:30 PM

Nice stats Robbie. There's a few sponsors in there I haven't tried, thanks for the heads up.

Robbie · 03-31-2010, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Nice stats Robbie. There's a few sponsors in there I haven't tried, thanks for the heads up.

Though you have always been rude to me on here...let me give you some other info.

A lot of those programs do not kick ass anymore. Tubes, forums, and file sharing sites have really killed a lot of them.

As you know the dating and cams still do well. But also as you can see from my stats, before piracy paysites made a ton more money than cams and dating. It's sad what has happened because of it.

If I were looking to start right now with the traffic you are talking about, I would do what I'm doing now:

1. Pushing Streamate cams from Money Tree...here's my referral link if anybody wants to sign up for them and toss me a bone: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?341477
Reason for Streamate more so than all the others that I promote? Simple. The owner is one of the smartest guys in this business (those of you who are old school know Bode) and he has set up Streamate in a way that he is a billing processor himself and in order to chat with the girls the surfer must first put a credit card on file. This cuts out the bullshit and makes the entire private show process smooth and easy. It makes all the difference in the world.

2. Push AEBN and give it time. AEBN is just like the cams as far as it building up slowly over time and you just keep on making money year after year. Everytime one of your signups watches a ppv movie you get paid. It's a consistent thing that never ends. Here is my refer code for that in case you're not already signed up: http://www.aebn.net/index.cfm?refid=...&salesToolId=4

3. If you choose to push paysites...don't waste a lot of time and precious traffic on the big generic mega sites using DVD rips and/or outsourced content. As you can see from my stats there was time those sites were king (see my deluxe pass stats for instance)
But today? ALL of that content is free all over the web.
Pick a site that shoots their own content, isn't run by a bunch of underlings but is actually run by a hands on owner. And make sure that owner isn't ignorant of how to shoot, how to make money, and how to keep up with the latest technology, marketing, and surfer needs. And of course target it. Don't push milfs on teen traffic and vice versa (I know, I know, most people already know that but I had to say it anyway)

cunningstunt I have no idea how we became enemies on here. And I don't care. But I certainly never registered on this board to make enemies. I registered on here to meet my peers and do business and maybe even make friends.

So I am extending my hand to you and would like to squash whatever heat we have between us.

Good luck and make sure to research this very carefully before you make your next moves. There is still money out here. But you have to be smart about it.

CunningStunt · 03-31-2010, 07:44 PM

I've posted a few things have been out of order towards you Robbie, I apologise. To your wife too, I didn't realise at the time who she was.

I can't even recall the thread which started it all either. I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie.

Good info.

Peter Romero · 03-31-2010, 08:02 PM

Depends on how good the traffic is. I have a site that converts about 1/150 to 1/30 on Search Engine traffic. And that same site may do 1/1000 off tube traffic. Show me some good traffic and I'll up your rev share percentage.

Robbie · 03-31-2010, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

I've posted a few things have been out of order towards you Robbie, I apologise. To your wife too, I didn't realise at the time who she was.

I can't even recall the thread which started it all either. I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie.

Good info.

Cool. Apology accepted. And good luck to you.

Peter Romero · 03-31-2010, 11:15 PM

That was pretty humble of you Robbie. Kudos! I am just the type of webmaster/program owner that you are looking to promote. I micromanage everything from scouting models, to shooting photos and video, editing and making my own thumbnails and updating my sites all by myself. I kinda pride myself in being one man, a camera, and a dream. Hit me up on ICQ and let's see if we can do some business.

The Porn Nerd · 03-31-2010, 11:56 PM

Well, simply put, if you sent 1/2 mil hits to www.felluciablow.com then you would get around 1000 sales, since her conversion rate is a rock-solid 1:400-1:500. If the traffic is coming from keywords like 'erotic' 'sensual' 'fellatio' etc.

Tube traffic the conversion rate can be 1:500-1:1000, so app. 500 sales+.

x $15-$17 (depending on membership)

Equals:

A fucking shitload of moolah. Average $16,000 (plus all the rebills, too)

The Porn Nerd · 04-01-2010, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Though you have always been rude to me on here...let me give you some other info.

A lot of those programs do not kick ass anymore. Tubes, forums, and file sharing sites have really killed a lot of them.

As you know the dating and cams still do well. But also as you can see from my stats, before piracy paysites made a ton more money than cams and dating. It's sad what has happened because of it.

If I were looking to start right now with the traffic you are talking about, I would do what I'm doing now:

1. Pushing Streamate cams from Money Tree...here's my referral link if anybody wants to sign up for them and toss me a bone: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?341477
Reason for Streamate more so than all the others that I promote? Simple. The owner is one of the smartest guys in this business (those of you who are old school know Bode) and he has set up Streamate in a way that he is a billing processor himself and in order to chat with the girls the surfer must first put a credit card on file. This cuts out the bullshit and makes the entire private show process smooth and easy. It makes all the difference in the world.

2. Push AEBN and give it time. AEBN is just like the cams as far as it building up slowly over time and you just keep on making money year after year. Everytime one of your signups watches a ppv movie you get paid. It's a consistent thing that never ends. Here is my refer code for that in case you're not already signed up: http://www.aebn.net/index.cfm?refid=...&salesToolId=4

3. If you choose to push paysites...don't waste a lot of time and precious traffic on the big generic mega sites using DVD rips and/or outsourced content. As you can see from my stats there was time those sites were king (see my deluxe pass stats for instance)
But today? ALL of that content is free all over the web.
Pick a site that shoots their own content, isn't run by a bunch of underlings but is actually run by a hands on owner. And make sure that owner isn't ignorant of how to shoot, how to make money, and how to keep up with the latest technology, marketing, and surfer needs. And of course target it. Don't push milfs on teen traffic and vice versa (I know, I know, most people already know that but I had to say it anyway)

cunningstunt I have no idea how we became enemies on here. And I don't care. But I certainly never registered on this board to make enemies. I registered on here to meet my peers and do business and maybe even make friends.

So I am extending my hand to you and would like to squash whatever heat we have between us.

Good luck and make sure to research this very carefully before you make your next moves. There is still money out here. But you have to be smart about it.

Hey Robbie, thanks for the great advice/links man! I'm going to signup under you for the Cams site as MILF Mia does a weekly Friday night Cam show through another provider. She makes BANK with it but doesn't care who we use, and wants me to find someone who will give me, the webmaster, a little bump for signups, so I'm assuming there's an affiliate link on the cam site? (just bookmarked it, will check it out tomorrow).

Already signed up under AEBN, have custom studios for several sites all setup, just haven't put the links in yet. Was hesitant because if it doesn't convert then it's just a traffic leak, right? LOL But why not give 'er a shot, especially for Sexxy Brandon, MILF Mia and Fellucia Blow.

(PeabodyCash is in it's final testing phase and should be done this week. Apparently I created too many promo materials or something. LOL)

CunningStunt · 04-01-2010, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Well, simply put, if you sent 1/2 mil hits to www.felluciablow.com then you would get around 1000 sales, since her conversion rate is a rock-solid 1:400-1:500. If the traffic is coming from keywords like 'erotic' 'sensual' 'fellatio' etc.

Tube traffic the conversion rate can be 1:500-1:1000, so app. 500 sales+.

x $15-$17 (depending on membership)

Equals:

A fucking shitload of moolah. Average $16,000 (plus all the rebills, too)

You seem to be missing the point of the entire thread.

I made over $160K pushing traffic to AFF, and am wondering who else in the business can convert that well. $16,000 is 1/10th the income.

The Porn Nerd · 04-01-2010, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

You seem to be missing the point of the entire thread.

I made over $160K pushing traffic to AFF, and am wondering who else in the business can convert that well. $16,000 is 1/10th the income.

I apologize completely. Late at night, and I saw the 1/2 million hits - how much can I make portion of your comments. I'll shut up now.

digitaldivas · 04-01-2010, 12:48 AM

...very informative perspectives, that's for sure.

Niktamer · 04-01-2010, 01:02 AM

yesterday we sent 211k to sponsors according to stats remote , we made 8500$

95M ads impressions

so 500k would be around 20k for us

banner on tube sites traffic.

hit us , we got some for sale

The Porn Nerd · 04-01-2010, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niktamer

yesterday we sent 211k to sponsors according to stats remote , we made 8500$

95M ads impressions

so 500k would be around 20k for us

banner on tube sites traffic.

hit us , we got some for sale

No don't - he'll yell at you for missing the point of the thread and give you an org laugh at the $20,000 figure.

Niktamer · 04-01-2010, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I cropped the top 15 from stats remote. All traffic straight from my tgps:

Btw Robbie how did you manage to make 25.41 cpc !!! on lightspeed and 2.51 on topbucks!

i missing something .. please tell me !!!

Niktamer · 04-01-2010, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

No don't - he'll yell at you for missing the point of the thread and give you an org laugh at the $20,000 figure.

1:1278 overall

lots of 1:400 .. and some 1:4000...

feel free to call me a noob .. i surely missed the gold old days

spooky181 · 04-01-2010, 02:12 AM

With our sites you would make around 1000 sales, each member stays on average 3 months, so you would make around $90,000

The Porn Nerd · 04-01-2010, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niktamer

1:1278 overall

lots of 1:400 .. and some 1:4000...

feel free to call me a noob .. i surely missed the gold old days

LOL ME TOO! 1000 sales, tho, good ol' days or not, still rocks.

The other thing is: is it even POSSIBLE to make $160,000 with 1/2 mil hits to a dating site, especially an over-exposed one like AFF, these days? That would be about $1 for every 3 uniques. Not bad dude! Maybe I should start a dating site, then, since Paysites can't match those numbers (IF they still exist...).

stephane76 · 04-01-2010, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

2. Push AEBN and give it time. AEBN is just like the cams as far as it building up slowly over time and you just keep on making money year after year. Everytime one of your signups watches a ppv movie you get paid. It's a consistent thing that never ends. Here is my refer code for that in case you're not already signed up: http://www.aebn.net/index.cfm?refid=...&salesToolId=4

Thanks Robbie

patavax · 05-22-2010, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Though you have always been rude to me on here...let me give you some other info.

A lot of those programs do not kick ass anymore. Tubes, forums, and file sharing sites have really killed a lot of them.

As you know the dating and cams still do well. But also as you can see from my stats, before piracy paysites made a ton more money than cams and dating. It's sad what has happened because of it.

If I were looking to start right now with the traffic you are talking about, I would do what I'm doing now:

1. Pushing Streamate cams from Money Tree...here's my referral link if anybody wants to sign up for them and toss me a bone: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?341477
Reason for Streamate more so than all the others that I promote? Simple. The owner is one of the smartest guys in this business (those of you who are old school know Bode) and he has set up Streamate in a way that he is a billing processor himself and in order to chat with the girls the surfer must first put a credit card on file. This cuts out the bullshit and makes the entire private show process smooth and easy. It makes all the difference in the world.

2. Push AEBN and give it time. AEBN is just like the cams as far as it building up slowly over time and you just keep on making money year after year. Everytime one of your signups watches a ppv movie you get paid. It's a consistent thing that never ends. Here is my refer code for that in case you're not already signed up: http://www.aebn.net/index.cfm?refid=...&salesToolId=4

3. If you choose to push paysites...don't waste a lot of time and precious traffic on the big generic mega sites using DVD rips and/or outsourced content. As you can see from my stats there was time those sites were king (see my deluxe pass stats for instance)
But today? ALL of that content is free all over the web.
Pick a site that shoots their own content, isn't run by a bunch of underlings but is actually run by a hands on owner. And make sure that owner isn't ignorant of how to shoot, how to make money, and how to keep up with the latest technology, marketing, and surfer needs. And of course target it. Don't push milfs on teen traffic and vice versa (I know, I know, most people already know that but I had to say it anyway)

cunningstunt I have no idea how we became enemies on here. And I don't care. But I certainly never registered on this board to make enemies. I registered on here to meet my peers and do business and maybe even make friends.

So I am extending my hand to you and would like to squash whatever heat we have between us.

Good luck and make sure to research this very carefully before you make your next moves. There is still money out here. But you have to be smart about it.

Thanks for the info Robbie!
I have signed up under your link code for streamate.
I will give it a try...

Varius · 05-22-2010, 02:07 PM

If it is quality, targeted traffic in that volume range here is what I would expect for different niches, based on previous experience (in order from least-earning to greatest-earning):

VOD: ~0.002 per unique (VOD is a dead market IMO, sorry VOD guys)

Paysites: ~0.03 per unique

Pills, Enhancement: ~0.07 per unique

Dating: ~0.12 per unique

Cams: ~0.30 per unique

Toys: ~0.65 per unique

LoveSandra · 05-22-2010, 03:25 PM

depends on source

SmokeyTheBear · 05-22-2010, 10:59 PM

obviously it is pure specualtion so 0- 5,000,000 could be correct but heres a grab of half million unique to nastydollars

AllAmateurMovies 63 0 n/a
AllSitesAccess 2174 0 n/a
RealityKings BigDick 5524 1 1:5524
BoysFirstTime 70 0 n/a
Bignaturals 8132 0 n/a
BigTitsBoss 21 0 n/a
CamCrush 31 0 n/a
Cum Fiesta 36124 6 1:6020
CumGirls 2 0 n/a
CaptainStabbin 530 0 n/a
ExtremeAsses 60 0 n/a
ExtremeNaturals 1 0 n/a
EuroSexParties 109 0 n/a
FirstTimeAuditions 5516 3 1:1838
FlowerTucci 1 0 n/a
HugeGayPass 818 0 n/a
HugeMoviePass 1 0 n/a
HugeTitsPass 693 0 n/a
intheVIP 55 0 n/a
40inchplus 16 0 n/a
MikesApartment 831 0 n/a
MegaCockCravers 1 0 n/a
MILFhunter 17838 0 n/a
MikeInBrazil 104 0 n/a
MILFnextdoor 70 0 n/a
MonsterCurves 2 0 n/a
MoneyTalks 5020 3 1:1673
Pure18 26936 3 1:8978
RoundandBrown 8035 2 1:4017
RealityKings 339611 79 1:4298
Realitykings Milf 5156 0 n/a
RKtopgirls 8473 2 1:4236
StreetBlowjobs 2883 1 1:2883
8thStreetLatinas 10776 3 1:3592
TeamSquirt 382 0 n/a
TrannySurprise 60 0 n/a
WeLiveTogether 13663 2 1:6831

Hits SignUps
Ratio Pay Per Signup Total Payout
499782 105 1:4759 $35 $3675.00

Roald · 05-23-2010, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

obviously it is pure specualtion so 0- 5,000,000 could be correct but heres a grab of half million unique to nastydollars

Hits SignUps
Ratio Pay Per Signup Total Payout
499782 105 1:4759 $35 $3675.00

Here is our half a mill to Nastydollars: $34155.00

too many factors to say what you would expect on half a mil though

Moses G · 05-23-2010, 03:43 AM

Hit me up.. i got a new dating site in beta that might fit your traffic.. $35pps on free trials

03-31-2010, 10:01 AM	#51
Dave-U Product Manager Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Budapest Posts: 929	Now would be a pretty good time to send all that traffic to a new source - and get double of what you would elsewhere see sig for details... __________________ E-mail: david.urban [at] doclerholding [dot] com

03-31-2010, 01:22 PM	#53
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I buy non-ppc traffic and send it to dating companies... One being aff, works out well enough to keep renewing the deals. Traffic Quality : 211 uniques per FREE signup __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

03-31-2010, 01:28 PM	#54
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,341	Is the 160k including your rebills from older sales? __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd

03-31-2010, 08:02 PM	#60
Peter Romero Long time no happy ending Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 10,578	Depends on how good the traffic is. I have a site that converts about 1/150 to 1/30 on Search Engine traffic. And that same site may do 1/1000 off tube traffic. Show me some good traffic and I'll up your rev share percentage. __________________ POVCash [email protected] See them all here: http://www.Petergirls.com

03-31-2010, 11:15 PM	#62
Peter Romero Long time no happy ending Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 10,578	That was pretty humble of you Robbie. Kudos! I am just the type of webmaster/program owner that you are looking to promote. I micromanage everything from scouting models, to shooting photos and video, editing and making my own thumbnails and updating my sites all by myself. I kinda pride myself in being one man, a camera, and a dream. Hit me up on ICQ and let's see if we can do some business. __________________ POVCash [email protected] See them all here: http://www.Petergirls.com

03-31-2010, 05:30 PM	#57
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Nice stats Robbie. There's a few sponsors in there I haven't tried, thanks for the heads up.

03-31-2010, 07:44 PM	#59
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	I've posted a few things have been out of order towards you Robbie, I apologise. To your wife too, I didn't realise at the time who she was. I can't even recall the thread which started it all either. I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie. Good info.

03-31-2010, 11:56 PM	#63
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,609	Well, simply put, if you sent 1/2 mil hits to www.felluciablow.com then you would get around 1000 sales, since her conversion rate is a rock-solid 1:400-1:500. If the traffic is coming from keywords like 'erotic' 'sensual' 'fellatio' etc. Tube traffic the conversion rate can be 1:500-1:1000, so app. 500 sales+. x $15-$17 (depending on membership) Equals: A fucking shitload of moolah. Average $16,000 (plus all the rebills, too) __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

04-01-2010, 12:48 AM	#67
digitaldivas ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,328	...very informative perspectives, that's for sure. __________________ ...

04-01-2010, 01:02 AM	#68
Niktamer Lord of the Leads Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3,021	yesterday we sent 211k to sponsors according to stats remote , we made 8500$ 95M ads impressions so 500k would be around 20k for us banner on tube sites traffic. hit us , we got some for sale __________________

04-01-2010, 02:12 AM	#72
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	With our sites you would make around 1000 sales, each member stays on average 3 months, so you would make around $90,000

05-22-2010, 02:07 PM	#76
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	If it is quality, targeted traffic in that volume range here is what I would expect for different niches, based on previous experience (in order from least-earning to greatest-earning): VOD: ~0.002 per unique (VOD is a dead market IMO, sorry VOD guys) Paysites: ~0.03 per unique Pills, Enhancement: ~0.07 per unique Dating: ~0.12 per unique Cams: ~0.30 per unique Toys: ~0.65 per unique __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

05-22-2010, 03:25 PM	#77
LoveSandra So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just Blow Me Posts: 10,551	depends on source

05-22-2010, 10:59 PM	#78
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	obviously it is pure specualtion so 0- 5,000,000 could be correct but heres a grab of half million unique to nastydollars AllAmateurMovies 63 0 n/a AllSitesAccess 2174 0 n/a RealityKings BigDick 5524 1 1:5524 BoysFirstTime 70 0 n/a Bignaturals 8132 0 n/a BigTitsBoss 21 0 n/a CamCrush 31 0 n/a Cum Fiesta 36124 6 1:6020 CumGirls 2 0 n/a CaptainStabbin 530 0 n/a ExtremeAsses 60 0 n/a ExtremeNaturals 1 0 n/a EuroSexParties 109 0 n/a FirstTimeAuditions 5516 3 1:1838 FlowerTucci 1 0 n/a HugeGayPass 818 0 n/a HugeMoviePass 1 0 n/a HugeTitsPass 693 0 n/a intheVIP 55 0 n/a 40inchplus 16 0 n/a MikesApartment 831 0 n/a MegaCockCravers 1 0 n/a MILFhunter 17838 0 n/a MikeInBrazil 104 0 n/a MILFnextdoor 70 0 n/a MonsterCurves 2 0 n/a MoneyTalks 5020 3 1:1673 Pure18 26936 3 1:8978 RoundandBrown 8035 2 1:4017 RealityKings 339611 79 1:4298 Realitykings Milf 5156 0 n/a RKtopgirls 8473 2 1:4236 StreetBlowjobs 2883 1 1:2883 8thStreetLatinas 10776 3 1:3592 TeamSquirt 382 0 n/a TrannySurprise 60 0 n/a WeLiveTogether 13663 2 1:6831 Hits SignUps Ratio Pay Per Signup Total Payout 499782 105 1:4759 $35 $3675.00 __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 05-22-2010 at 11:01 PM..

05-23-2010, 03:43 AM	#80
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