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Old 05-12-2010, 04:12 AM   #151
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:23 AM   #152
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Well...there is...or at the least was...at least two very small towns in California...one of which use a barter system as well as U.S. currency and another town that prints its own money which is used as barter...as well as U.S. currency. Both towns do so because of lack of jobs in the community. The people manage but for the most part are very poor. I don't view it as being practical outside of a very small community that is barely managing survival.
well, under a cashless bartering system everyone involved would be saw by us as poor.. because the production of the little trinkets that make our present way of life what it is would be very difficult to produce among a small localized economy. ipad? impossible. electricity? pretty god damn difficult. running water, television, medication all that shit would be out the window.

the definition of "wealthy "would have to be revised. that much is for sure.
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:40 AM   #153
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:01 AM   #154
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As someone else said you've bunched up things you want to believe isn't a conspiracy into a "theory." As far as the moon. I personally believe man has been there MANY times. I also believe that batteries we're found in Iraq that are 6500 years old. I also believe the pyramids were an ancient attempt at a form of power plants. I also believe that certain people didn't want those civilizations to progress. It's happened time and time again through history.. I have many other beliefs which have come from many years of MY OWN research which would GREATLY contradict most things you have ever been led to believe and I CAN support my findings with verifiable documented/historical evidence. If you believe that things haven't been hidden from the general public because certain people in certain places felt they didn't want you to know about those things for whatever reason (mostly power).. So be it.. I know differently.. Social dominance? You mean like religion and the squashing of anything with opposing views even when historical evidence PROVES them to be nothing but made up stories based on ancient myths.. The "believers" in those things are very much desribed in your OP.. So who's more crazy? Those 1700+ year old "story" believers or these others you describe?
"many years of research"..oh you mean people posting things online who are questionable themselves? Have you ever thought that the spread of certain conspiracies is a conspiracy itself to hide a third truth? People tend to believe those who don't want to believe "the norm" without any phsyical evidence at all. They somehow feel they have more reason to tell the truth. I don't buy it personally. These people just have as much reason to lie.

Conspiracies are all too often like the National Enquirer. There may be bits of truth in it but largely BS.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:09 AM   #155
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Did you know Forbes money, and many other fortunes, started with
Drug money in China, back in the late 1800s. No?

See, ignorrant. There are differences between, Alien type
conspiracy and secret societies, and stories about...how society and
Money are made.

Do you believe in the Bible? No? How ignorrant of you! - The bible
was written back in the roman empire days.

People have to determine, what makes sense and not. I have files
on my computer, about the World war 2 propaganda, back in the
1910s, in a new york times newspaper.

There never were 6 million jews dead. It is too much resources to take
care of 6 million jew bodies, the true numbers?

Around 300,000! But the 6 million, is a nice figure, written in stone.

Yes, I am mad crazy!! But ignorrance to not believe in any conspiracy
theory outside of the norm, that is true stupidity. People team up and
haven't we heard of Skull And Bones? Nobody has yet to reveal
the secrets going on in those meetings....strange, Allright?

Personally, I don't put in any time, on Big foots, dwarf like aliens and so on.
But I like to read reasonable conspiracy theories. That's just me.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:33 AM   #156
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Well...there is...or at the least was...at least two very small towns in California...one of which use a barter system as well as U.S. currency and another town that prints its own money which is used as barter...as well as U.S. currency. Both towns do so because of lack of jobs in the community. The people manage but for the most part are very poor. I don't view it as being practical outside of a very small community that is barely managing survival.
The problem is not the money itself (a medium of exchange). The problem is the people behind the money. They use whats called a fractional reserve system. You go deposit $100 into the bank. They hold said $100 in the bank and LOAN you back your $100 + $900to someone else and charge interest on top of that. Creating huge amounts of wealth out of thin air.. For them. That huge amount of wealth is then used to buy up all real assets. It's a gamed system.. It use to be 10% reserves. But since the "bailouts" there is no reserve.. None.. They can create money out of thin air and charge you interest for it as much as they want. In addition to all that there are many side bets/gambles made such as the derivitives. Who gets to pay for all of this? The slaves.. You, me and our children are born with a price tag on your head because of this system. Every dollar you pay into the "tax" system is put towards intrerest to the bankers created from this DEBT... NOT to pay for the governments finances.. Every dollar created is a DEBT NOTE. A DEBT created from nothing but printing money and making changes to the ledger. As of now through the bailouts this very well hidden group holds the mortgage to your house, your car, your everything.. To cover their debts to other like systems. If you miss a few payments.. Guess what you get slave? Kicked to the curb and they get 100%+++ of the money back either way. Now what do you suppose happenens when they can't make their payments? They crash markets and take whatever little wealth you might have accumulated. This is also used to kee their little scam alive and so noone makes and changes or regulations to it.. Last Thursday anyone? Financial Terrorism.
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was written back in the roman empire days.
That question and statement confuses me... Why does 'when it was written' mater if you believe it or not, or how the when relates to the conspiracy theory at all?
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Old 05-12-2010, 09:56 AM   #159
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That question and statement confuses me... Why does 'when it was written' mater if you believe it or not, or how the when relates to the conspiracy theory at all?
well, not only that but the bible was not written during the time of the roman empire.

the old testament predates the roman empire and the new testament was written after the decline.

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"many years of research"..oh you mean people posting things online who are questionable themselves? Have you ever thought that the spread of certain conspiracies is a conspiracy itself to hide a third truth? People tend to believe those who don't want to believe "the norm" without any phsyical evidence at all. They somehow feel they have more reason to tell the truth. I don't buy it personally. These people just have as much reason to lie.

Conspiracies are all too often like the National Enquirer. There may be bits of truth in it but largely BS.
No I mean reading books, reading supreme court rulings, reading the "laws," reading books from the perpertrators themselves where they admit to it, documenting historical events tying it all in together.. On and on. Thousands upon thousands of hours of it.. There is a reason for my madness. I didn't just wake up one day and decide I was going to try an figure it all out. I saw first hand being in a certain business something transpire. I warned everyone around me of what I saw. No one wanted to listen because at the time they were making money. Lots of it. They were on top of the World. Now most are waiting tables and/or losing their homes/ASSets. And now saying, "you know, you tried to tell me but I didn't want to listen."
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well, under a cashless bartering system everyone involved would be saw by us as poor.. because the production of the little trinkets that make our present way of life what it is would be very difficult to produce among a small localized economy. ipad? impossible. electricity? pretty god damn difficult. running water, television, medication all that shit would be out the window.

the definition of "wealthy "would have to be revised. that much is for sure.
Not so. You are paid in hours and for each hour you are credited what you feel you are worth and/or what you can get from whoever you work for. There are still large manufacturers.. YO buy the same products you would today with said credit/hours. These systems still use currencies as a form of exchange along with the credit system.. Nothing changes in society other than loss of control at the top. You don't have someone at the top making you pay them to use "their" currency. And that's EXACTLY what we have now. We are paying the banks/federal reserve interest to use their ink on paper. They never put up anything of value of their own. And now they don't even have to hold reserves.. They can just freely print off money and create credit on accounts. Need $1 trillion EU? Here ya go. We'll bill it to the slaves. That trillion disappeared in a day. You think you're going to audit us? We'll see about that.. 1000 point drop in the market in minutes and audit bill is gone along with the bill to break up the "too big to fail." These are the REAL terrorists in our society..
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Not so. You are paid in hours and for each hour you are credited what you feel you are worth and/or what you can get. These systems still use currencies as a form of exchange. Nothing changes in society other than loss of control at the top. You don't have someone at the top making you pay them to use "their" currency. And that's EXACTLY what we have now. We are paying the banks/federal reserve interest to use their ink on paper. They never put up anything of value of their own. And now they don't even have to hold reserves.. They can just freely print off money. Need $1 trillion dollars UK? Here ya go. We'll bill it to the slaves. That trillion disappeared in a day. You think you're going to audit us? We'll see about that.. 1000 point drop in the market in minutes and audit bill is gone along with the bill to break up the "too big to fail." These are the REAL terrorists in our society..
Is it true that the american taxpayer is actually helping to help bail out Greece, Since the Federal Reserve is a big part of the IMF?
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Is it true that the american taxpayer is actually helping to help bail out Greece, Since the Federal Reserve is a big part of the IMF?
about 17% of the imf dollars going to greece are us.s taxpayer dollars.

we can blame that silly german bitch in charge for this catastrophe.
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Is it true that the american taxpayer is actually helping to help bail out Greece, Since the Federal Reserve is a big part of the IMF?
I'm sure you're aware but anyway. We're still bailing out the big banks. The banks that truly make something from nothing. The IMF is the IRS and the Fed. All the same.. So yes we get the bill.
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about 17% of the imf dollars going to greece are us.s taxpayer dollars.

we can blame that silly german bitch in charge for this catastrophe.
Do u have a link? I would like to show my sis
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Do u have a link? I would like to show my sis
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...086866944.html

http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/06/u-...greek-bailout/


the actual % is open to some interpretation but the fact remains we fund the imf.

also, i usually do not post in regards to politics but the way germany handled this crisis over the last several months is pathetic.
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