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Old 06-25-2010, 08:05 PM   #51
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my neighbors have 2 boats.. in the almost 2 years of living here.. they have never been out of the driveway, he randomly goes out and turns them on, which i filed complaints to the city about and they told him he has to move one of them, hopefully he gets rid of both and starts parking in his driveway instead of in front of my house
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It depends on where you live and what size boat I get But to stay optimistic I will say "yes let's fish"
Cool,I'm up in Vancouver,perhaps you can swing by and I'll take you salmon fishing.We can watch the killer whales too.I just need you to rub some lotion on my back because I burn easily
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That looks like a good day / weekend boat. Good that it's a trailer-able boat. I think that's the best way to go to get the pleasure of part time recreational boating without many of the hassles involved in keeping a boat moored.

Now just make sure you got a big ole truck with lots of balls to go with it.
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My dad was big on boating I spent every weekend as a kid at the lake. I learned to waterski when i was 6. Could do one ski and jumps and stuff.

I actually got up on one ski first try after 20 yrs.. lol.. amazed my kids and husband.. my dad had faith in me. I couldnt move for a week mind you.. waterskiing is a pretty intense workout, but its so fun and you dont feel it til later.. lol.

Actually I was looking to buy a pair of jet skis (you can pull them with a car and u can pull a skier or tube) ... and used boating equipment you get for a steal... thats why I was thinking about a rental biz. Season work but ya I could hang out at the lake all summer.. and if used for biz purposes your toys are tax writeoff!!!


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Im not big on fishing, i think its boring and gross... especially if you catch something.

Though I do love to eat fish. Trout. I dont really like salmon. And I love seafood, crab and lobster. I like it served on a plate... not whacking it on the head.


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I have a center console fishing boat (23' hydra sport bay boat). Bought it 8 years ago slightly used and got a great deal on it, it is still worth about the same now as it was when I bought it. I don't need the cabins and shit, I just want something I can fish off of .



Couple things you need to know about boats. Don't ever buy new. Pretty sure this is the same in all states, if you by used you just pay taxes on the trailer, if you buy new you pay taxes on the boat, motor and trailer. Also in this economy you can pick up steals on used boats from people who bought a boat that they really couldn't afford the payments on. Also when people buy boats new they usually spring f or all the extra's (gps, trolling motor, etc..) and you not only get a good deal on a used boat but you get all of the extras tossed in. So you don't have to pay thousands for all of that extra stuff like you do with a new one.

The other thing I would mention don't finance a boat. If you can't afford to pay cash then you don't need a boat. While I bought a boat, mine was under 20K you not talking a lot of money. If you going to drop 60 - 100K on a boat and then finance it that would be a huge mistake. You will wind up paying a ton of money on interest. Not to mention the bigger the boat the bigger the money pit it is. You need to pay for a slip, insurance, etc... In my case I don't need a slip as I can trailer it around easily, I don't need insurance as it isn't worth THAT much to make it worth it, and I didn't finance and I didn't pay a lot of money. I've been lucky and had no major repairs. I would never buy new or drop a lot of money on a boat unless I had millions in the bank and had a lot of money to blow.



LOL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER buy New boats. ALWAYS buy USED. ALWAYS. Buy one that is 1-5 years old, I wouldn't go over 5 years and ALWAYS get it checked out from top to bottom.

Nothing deprecates faster than a new boat. Nothing. Not to mention there are MILLIONS of deals out there. People buy cars they can't afford all the time but they need transportation so most people find a way to make it work. The people who buy big ass expensive boats then lose their jobs, the boat is the first thing to go, not the house or the car. There is always steals out there on great used boats.

Not to mention the tax savings on used (if that is the same in all states - not 100% sure).
Will thanks for the input you are always very informative. The boat you have is almost identical to what my Dad is trying to convince me to buy. He says “you can piss off the side and don’t need a bathroom Sarah, it’s a boat. You fish from it. You have a house for cooking and taking dumps.” Everyone I talk to says get a used boat like you said Will. I’m off to see my parents again in Tennessee next month and will make my decision then. I lurk all the cities within 200 miles to see what deals I can find on boats. Lots of people have nice boats they can’t make afford anymore and will sell them for a great price.

Sucks to hear about you not being able to go out and fish cause of BP I hope it stays clear of NC.
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in fact he wants some pussy, is just an excuse he wants to go fishing
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Will thanks for the input you are always very informative. The boat you have is almost identical to what my Dad is trying to convince me to buy. He says “you can piss off the side and don’t need a bathroom Sarah, it’s a boat. You fish from it. You have a house for cooking and taking dumps.” Everyone I talk to says get a used boat like you said Will. I’m off to see my parents again in Tennessee next month and will make my decision then. I lurk all the cities within 200 miles to see what deals I can find on boats. Lots of people have nice boats they can’t make afford anymore and will sell them for a great price.

Sucks to hear about you not being able to go out and fish cause of BP I hope it stays clear of NC.
Also it is always good to start off with something cheap and smaller. If you like it, and use it a lot and stick with it, then you can decide exactly what you want to buy and spend a lot of money on. If you buy the 100K cabin cruiser then decide it isn't what you wanted you pretty much fucked. Also if you drop a lot of money then find out you really never use it. It's best to get a boat to make sure this is something you will use often and then use that boat to get your feet wet and decide what you like and didn't like about it, then make your big purchase if you still want to.

<- that goes true for just about any big purchase you plan on making in life.
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I own a Regal 2000 Bowrider with Mercruiser 5.0 MPI. A lot of fun, but also a big commitment. An extra thing to pay for and to worry about in bad weather. Also mechanical problems are constant. My boat is 2 years old and I had to change my shower pump this month, also horn, docking lights and radio remote no loger work. Also mechanic is comming tomorrow morning to change exaust gasket that blew out of it's place.

So a lot of worries, not worth the fun it gives you. It's way better to rent. I would sell mine, but everything is fucked up here in Europe right now and nobody is buying.
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Do you have a boat? If so what kind and why do you love it if you do have one? My dad and I are going looking tomorrow morning here in North Carolina as he's in town before my trip to Jamaica.

I have been hunting for almost a year and really want a Sea Ray Sundancer. My dad is here from California to help me shop. He has sailed and fished on the west coast and east coast for years as a pro fisherman. He likes the center console boats. If you have one let me know what type and why you like the model you have. I want a boat I can sleep on and fish off with plenty of room. It needs an onboard bathroom and small kitchen. If you have one what kind and what features do you recommend? If you have pics of it please post them.
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I would recommend a few but all have pros & cons.

Birchwood, Fairline, Sunseeker, Searay & Astondoa. Maybe even add a Sealine to that collection.

Most of these are British boats but all have great sea going pros. The Sunseekers are slightly over rated for quality but have amazing looks & are very efficient.

Leave the Bayliners as they are very thin hulled & can split. They used to have a name of Binliners

Stick to your Searay as they are lovely boats I have owned a cpl of Fletchers including a sports cruiser. Superb hulls due to the deep v, origionally designed in the 70s that won the championships.

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I would recommend a few but all have pros & cons.

Birchwood, Fairline, Sunseeker, Searay & Astondoa. Maybe even add a Sealine to that collection.

Most of these are British boats but all have great sea going pros. The Sunseekers are slightly over rated for quality but have amazing looks & are very efficient.

Leave the Bayliners as they are very thin hulled & can split. They used to have a name of Binliners

Stick to your Searay as they are lovely boats I have owned a cpl of Fletchers including a sports cruiser. Superb hulls due to the deep v, origionally designed in the 70s that won the championships.

Good luck with your buy mate
I used to sell boats. I love Campion boats (www.campionboats.com). They are made in Kelowna, BC and are just the best. I choose to buy Regal since it was much cheaper at the time due to low US$
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I used to sell boats. I love Campion boats (www.campionboats.com). They are made in Kelowna, BC and are just the best. I choose to buy Regal since it was much cheaper at the time due to low US$
Regal are also cheap here in the UK. But if you want build & class quality the British, Spanish & Italian boats have it.

Of course, Hence the recommendation to take the Searay that he is looking at, as it is up there with them too
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Also it is always good to start off with something cheap and smaller. If you like it, and use it a lot and stick with it, then you can decide exactly what you want to buy and spend a lot of money on. If you buy the 100K cabin cruiser then decide it isn't what you wanted you pretty much fucked. Also if you drop a lot of money then find out you really never use it. It's best to get a boat to make sure this is something you will use often and then use that boat to get your feet wet and decide what you like and didn't like about it, then make your big purchase if you still want to.

<- that goes true for just about any big purchase you plan on making in life.
Will are you sure you're not my father (insert darth vader voice, Sarah I am your father, buy a center console boat) lots of good advice from this thread. I love feedback and I do research on all of what everyone says. I'm pretty smart on all my investment but love to get input from the masses. The more you know the better off you are.
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You sound like my Dad lol. He said the same thing when I bought my RV (Mini Me) 3 years ago. I have traveled 40k miles in it and have not spend a dime besides oil changes and one set of front brakes. I really take care of all my investments, but I have heard a boat is a money pit. I'm hoping to stray from that. That's why I'm asking for opinions.
RV's and boats are investments?
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In my experience, when you first start shopping for boats it all seems so perfect. The great get away vehicle. Weekends on the water. Then you find out, more times than not, you have friends who get motion sick, the friends you take with you don't want to do any work toward helping out when the boat is underway, and when it comes time to clean or do any maintenance, you are more than likely all on your own.

Boats are different. You will spend a ton of money on them. Watercraft have this odd habit of getting gunk build up below the waterline...thus monthly bottom cleanings are needed by a dive service. Haul outs to paint or seal ( i had a fiberglass boat and a wood boat at one time) the hull every XX months. Rust, corrosion, weather wear and tear, it's all a lot worse with boats. Slip rents, boat insurance, are expensive. Engines are tough to work on, water pumps go bad, etc. I had a sailboat for several years and the addage is very true, they are holes in which you throw your money.

I'm not totally negative on boats, although reading the above might sound like it, they just have their drawbacks and for me, it would take some serious soul searching to make sure I wanted that responsibility again.

Good luck though. They are fun if you have the money, the time, the patience, and a good set of friends who will not only help you enjoy it but help out so it's not all on you when they do.
tombarr, after reading your reply I get the feeling you don’t like boat maintenance at all haha. I think you also need new friends. I think they just wanted to use you for your awesome boat.

I do realize a boat is like a job and you need to care for it like a child. I don’t have much time or patients. But I do know I love to fish and love the open water.
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Will are you sure you're not my father (insert darth vader voice, Sarah I am your father, buy a center console boat) lots of good advice from this thread. I love feedback and I do research on all of what everyone says. I'm pretty smart on all my investment but love to get input from the masses. The more you know the better off you are.
exactly right. The person who thinks he knows it all is a fool. I always consult with other people especially when it comes to matters I have little experience in.

I learn from other people's mistakes and unfortunetly the hard way on my own every now and again. Advice is usually free, the more you can get the better decission you can make. Sounds like your Dad knows what he is talking about

What I have been taught about boats by people that have been a lot more successful than me is that it is best to go in with 3 or so partners especially on larger expensive boats. Considering most people use a boat at most a couple times a month, it sits idle most of the time. When you not using it your partners can, and everyone splits the costs so it makes owning it a lot more affordable. The people who I know that do this have millions of dollars and they still split the costs over a couple partners vs owning it out right themselves. I prefer to take that kind of money and invest it vs spending it on an expensive boat because I don't have millions in the bank yet.

Your best bet would be to find someone who owns one and just pay for the gas , bait, food etc.. and go out with them. That is the best way to go!

If you had 100K to blow, instead of putting it on a boat, if you locked it up for 30 years for retirement at 8% that 100K would turn into 1M. Not counting all of the money you will be spending on repairs, boat slips, etc. Before you buy an expensive boat, especially on your own at least make sure you have enough money put a side in retirement savings that you can retire well.
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NO, not by an means. RVs, Boats, expensive cars, all of that shit is just one big expense. They not only lose value and cost you money to own them, but they make you shit. A real investment is something that makes you a cash flow and goes up in value the complete opposite of expensive toys.

I still laught at all of the big ballers who had 5 - 10+ expensive sports cars, who spent 100K's on cars and had big garages built to store all of their cars. They spent it faster than they made it. Just to later either get them repo'ed or sold them off pennies on the dollar and have nothing to show for it today. If they would have taken the money from just one or two of those cars and locked it up in retirement planning at least they could retire rich, instead they will likely be working till the day they die living a modest life at best.

(ballers, don't take that as me being jealous. While I wouldn't mind having made the money you had, I could give a shit about the toys. )
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Go with the sea ray !!!
I have a bayliner now but we are looking at a 30ft searay Sundancer, it seems like a fantastic choice.
And has a MUCH better hul than the Bayliners.

Throw a couple of Scotty down riggers on there and you are good
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A boat is a personal thing no one can really tell you what boat to buy.

So much depends on where you want to boat, what you want to use the boat for and of course how much you want to spend.

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Will are you sure you're not my father (insert darth vader voice, Sarah I am your father, buy a center console boat) lots of good advice from this thread. I love feedback and I do research on all of what everyone says. I'm pretty smart on all my investment but love to get input from the masses. The more you know the better off you are.
OK i'll make you a deal... I'll take you out on my boat if you want to be my GF. Now I don't offer this to just anyone so please give it a lot of thought before you answer Then you can invest your money and still get to go out on a boat whenever you want. I know its not a yacht but I can put you on the fish
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:02 AM   #81
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Our Toy "well not this one but one just like it"
VERY inexpensive for a boat

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Old 07-02-2010, 05:17 AM   #82
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The real reason I have a boat!!!!

Great reason !
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:37 AM   #83
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I grew up on a 65 foot sail boat, not sure what kind it was but back in the 80's that was a huge boat. My sis and I had to share a room (yuck) and my mom refused to go on it. LOL So every weekend that was nice we went on the boat. Every sumer we would go for a week long sail, mostly up and down the coast of VA. Annapolis was the best spot to go crabbing and everyone loved it when I would bring a hug bucket of crabs.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:15 AM   #84
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I grew up on a 65 foot sail boat, not sure what kind it was but back in the 80's that was a huge boat. My sis and I had to share a room (yuck) and my mom refused to go on it. LOL So every weekend that was nice we went on the boat. Every sumer we would go for a week long sail, mostly up and down the coast of VA. Annapolis was the best spot to go crabbing and everyone loved it when I would bring a hug bucket of crabs.
Boating of any kind is lovely. The rivers in Britain are very relaxing. Our family had weeks away on a few boats, a cpl of Birchwoods & an Atlanta. I think Atlanta come from Norway or somewhere. A great sea going boat, lol... you can trust the Nords for that

I rather motor yaughts than sail, but all boats are worthwhile for family time, lol & pulling the women for Oliver Klozov


Have you seen that film where the guy pretends his bosses sail yaught is his. Then, out at sea they leave the ladder up but all 6 of them jump in the sea, Leaving the baby on board. Its really gripping!
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:21 AM   #85
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I had a Glastron 249, with a great Volvo Penta engine. It handled great, it "planed" awesome and was very steady in storms. The price was right (brand new about $34,000 back in the late 90's) and it did great by me for the 6 years I had it before some jackass stole it from the Miami River.
It was never recovered, so my guess is it's somewhere on the bottom of Biscayne Bay
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I had a Glastron 249, with a great Volvo Penta engine. It handled great, it "planed" awesome and was very steady in storms. The price was right (brand new about $34,000 back in the late 90's) and it did great by me for the 6 years I had it before some jackass stole it from the Miami River.
It was never recovered, so my guess is it's somewhere on the bottom of Biscayne Bay

Sounds like some real fun you had! Was you not insured?
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:50 AM   #87
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NO, not by an means. RVs, Boats, expensive cars, all of that shit is just one big expense. They not only lose value and cost you money to own them, but they make you shit. A real investment is something that makes you a cash flow and goes up in value the complete opposite of expensive toys.

I still laught at all of the big ballers who had 5 - 10+ expensive sports cars, who spent 100K's on cars and had big garages built to store all of their cars. They spent it faster than they made it. Just to later either get them repo'ed or sold them off pennies on the dollar and have nothing to show for it today. If they would have taken the money from just one or two of those cars and locked it up in retirement planning at least they could retire rich, instead they will likely be working till the day they die living a modest life at best.

(ballers, don't take that as me being jealous. While I wouldn't mind having made the money you had, I could give a shit about the toys. )
I was asking the original poster but thank you very much for taking time out to educate me
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