more dead programs and programs are dropping pay per sale payouts - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Vjo · 07-01-2010, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

most programs are interchangeable nowadays so who cares. just switch links and move on.

the big boys will always have the resources for affiliate traffic and the little guys will need affiliates to make sales.

the sky is not falling because a couple walking dead programs went under.

Agreed 100%.

It is true this place over emphasizes things.

Any affils now days prob know who sells as well as the prog owners themselves and arent promoting most of those now going under. Most dont go under overnight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Expect a few more major announcements very soon. I've got the inside scoop on a few very large companies about to close, and a few others dropping the affiliate model. Going to be interesting to see who is still here this time 2012.

Trini, I bet all those closing are prob not being promoted anyhow. And please

noone who sells is dropping the affil model unless they flunked Business 101.

You cant convince me or 488 of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Correct on all accounts.

BF, you have been anti affil since day one

PGR · 07-02-2010, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Expect a few more major announcements very soon. I've got the inside scoop on a few very large companies about to close, and a few others dropping the affiliate model.

Going to be interesting to see who is still here this time 2012.

nobody according to the mayans

$5 submissions · 07-02-2010, 12:14 AM

What's the probability of MasterCard/Visa cracking down on rebilling for "high risk" category transactions like online adult?

What would the effect be, long term and short term, on the industry?

Nathan · 07-02-2010, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

You're welcome. I will go back to promoting our shitty program.

Sly, we all know that people like Don have no clue about the industry in a grand scale. Him simply using "big pps programs", "weg", "perfect gonzo", "quickbuck", "rehab dollars" and "adult profit" in the same sentence completely disqualifies him as a knowledgable person in adult in my oppinion...

The least you should know is who the big players are that actually CAN afford the high PPS. Small programs with very little exclusive content and small member base can simply not support high PPS without heavy cross sells. Big programs however definately can do so without heavy cross sells...

crazytrini85 · 07-02-2010, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo

Trini, I bet all those closing are prob not being promoted anyhow. And please

noone who sells is dropping the affil model unless they flunked Business 101.

You cant

How many program owners or webmasters in general do you know who actually know anything about business? Not many. They all got lucky and rode the luck and timing train in the industry. Now that it takes some business mind to run a business, they are failing.

Most people in this business flunked business 101.

ArsewithClass · 07-02-2010, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

my opinion...keep it at $25 to start and make people come to you before talking about raising it up...set some goals like 5 sales per week or something for a bump in the payout.

Thanks for the information. I like this idea.

Does the "$xxx bonuses on every x sale" work?

Vjo · 07-02-2010, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Most people in this business flunked business 101.

LOL That's funny

Well if that is true then we are indeed in trouble.

Anyhow not arguing. Whenever someone says "affils are dieing ect ect" I show up with my litle speech. BF shows up and says his little

that they are. And life goes on.. just a little more time wasted.

So I am no longer knee jerk on that topic. Sheesh.

We are all so predictable.

I just know I am starting this month real slow but I did the same thing last month. Then took off on the 4th.

I am starting to believe in that batch processing theory someone had.

$5 submissions · 07-02-2010, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

pps was a baddddd idea in the first place

Hmmm interesting conclusion.

Paul Markham · 07-02-2010, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

go read a newspaper. the economy has collapsed. has nothing to do with adult itself.

The decline in the Adult Internet started long before the recession. That just made it worse. Will those lost to free porn come back to paying?

The guys who can't afford $30 a month are a small percentage. Tubes are still surviving so someones spending money on "Adult" or they would be falling as well.

So will those who can't afford $30 a month come back to buying porn? Not unless we give them a very good reason to come back.

Paul Markham · 07-02-2010, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

How many program owners or webmasters in general do you know who actually know anything about business? Not many. They all got lucky and rode the luck and timing train in the industry. Now that it takes some business mind to run a business, they are failing.

Most people in this business flunked business 101.

Very true. Most people in this business had very little clue about the porn business and the product. They know how to program a site and send traffic. As for business 101, most never took that class.

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

What's the probability of MasterCard/Visa cracking down on rebilling for "high risk" category transactions like online adult?

What would the effect be, long term and short term, on the industry?

How much income is from people who signed up and forgot about being members for months after months? Yes very little. They're members who are consuming the product. If they don't rebill they will on another site. So it will mean more leave as more join.

The Porn Nerd · 07-02-2010, 08:48 AM

Well, my friends, it's time to promote a Program that's on the RISE - PeabodyCash! We're actually GROWING and making more for our affiliates then ever so check US out and then complain. LOL

AK · 07-02-2010, 09:07 AM

we still pay $75 PPS, up to $5 per free

seeandsee · 07-02-2010, 09:15 AM

Lets go back to 99 and i would be happy, wait what, tubes cant go back, o fuck, we are fucked

james_clickmemedia · 07-02-2010, 09:16 AM

$30 - $35 pps is a payout that we can sustain for the forceable future.
It helps to have years worth of recurring...

Brujah · 07-02-2010, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo

BF, you have been anti affil since day one

Fear and self-loathing in Michigan.

07-02-2010, 12:14 AM	#53
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	What's the probability of MasterCard/Visa cracking down on rebilling for "high risk" category transactions like online adult? What would the effect be, long term and short term, on the industry? __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

07-02-2010, 08:48 AM	#61
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,605	Well, my friends, it's time to promote a Program that's on the RISE - PeabodyCash! We're actually GROWING and making more for our affiliates then ever so check US out and then complain. LOL __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

07-02-2010, 09:07 AM	#62
AK MadZuma Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,436	we still pay $75 PPS, up to $5 per free __________________ Alfonsus Kusuma (AK) ak at madzuma.com skype me - alfonsus.com

07-02-2010, 09:15 AM	#63
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	Lets go back to 99 and i would be happy, wait what, tubes cant go back, o fuck, we are fucked __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

07-02-2010, 09:16 AM	#64
james_clickmemedia Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas / London Posts: 2,204	$30 - $35 pps is a payout that we can sustain for the forceable future. It helps to have years worth of recurring... __________________ $ CLICKMEMEDIA.COM $ CONVERTING ETHNIC TRAFFIC SINCE 1998 ~ $30+PPS BLACK-X.COM - NEW BLACK EX-GF SITE CLICKMEMEDIA.COM ~ ICQ - 8788771