Amputate Your Head

You're right, I'm clueless. You win.

Gotta go. Later.

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La_Sexorcist

I didn't think we could ever clear it out.

crazytrini85

You are a sheep if you believe that.

This is the BP gov spin. Elections are coming up. Don't forget it. You're going to hear all kinds of spin.

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dyna mo

why do people insist on making things like this personal? i don't see the need to call people names and finger point, i really don't. fact is, there's less oil in the gulf today than there was a month ago.
it's incorrect to assume bp is a puppet master for u.s. elections, noaa, etc.

Bill8

"Owned by" is the term I used.

And it is a relative term, because the oil companies, like all multinats, own both parties. They just own a higher percentage of the republican party.

That's why republicans oppose carbon legislation - their masters told them to oppose it. Can't have costs the people bear bite into short term shareholder value - fuck the people, fuck the new jobs.

The dems are equally owned, but the majority owners of the dems aren't concentrated quite so much in the fossil carbon corps, so the dems are allowed by their masters to continue to say mean things about the oil companies.

The point however is, if the south wants to swallow benzene, they're the ones who will bear the costs, so who cares.

dyna mo

that's not the point in the slightest.

cambaby

Truer words were never spoken.

Bill8

It might not be yours, but it is mine.

if the republicans want to throw part of their base under the bus, I don't have a problem with it.

What point did you want to emphasize? Sorry if I missed it.

dyna mo

i don't see how a disregard for the folks living in the south has any point whatsoever eh.

Bill8

Yes, that's sad, but you are unlikely to get the republicans to care.

And it will take years for the science to gather and test the measurements that will tell us what the real effects have been and will be.

Since politics and media have a cycle measured in days and months, the years required for science make the science politically pointless for now.

It will be up to the people in that region to save and protect themselves, to whatever extent they find themselves bearing costs.

dyna mo

again off point, the thread topic isn't about the effects long term or short, it's about an article informing us about how the noaa determined how much of the oil is left in the gulf at this time.

DateDoc

You need to add in the microbes that eat the oil too. Plus it would probably be less than 1 cup of oil to a bucket of water if you want the right oil/water ration. Maybe not even a teaspoon.

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That's why I went with the much more expensive government lab/scale model idea instead.

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Ethersync

Much less than that even...

Bill8

I suppose you could make that argument, tho the bulk of this thread has been about the political struggle for spin control, I haven't seen anything in this thread that purports to be about the science of spill measurement with the exception of the lay point that dispersed does not mean gone.

Since I'm not part of that peer review process I don't have any comment on noaa measurements, except to say that I believe any legitimate scientist would argue that it's too early to say what the long term impact will be.

I would counterargue that this thread isn't about noaa it's about spin.

And if the republicans want the south to shut up and get back in rank, I don't think that should be opposed.

dyna mo

well, at least you are respectful with your comments, i appreciate that.

ProG

People WANT to believe the oil is going away so they can get on with their petty little lives. Meanwhile people are suffering all over the Gulf coast. If you want to keep your eyes closed and believe whatever they tell you on the news, that's your decision. There are still those of us with our eyes open who are not going to stand for these lies.

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cambaby

Oh my look what I found... TOLD YOU SO BITCHES
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html

dyna mo

i guess nobody told cambaby the noaa guy who 1st said the oil is gone has retracted that assessment.

cambaby

That link above wasnt redacted you fucking filthy liar.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/gul...udy/index.html

dyna mo

i never said that link was, learn to read.

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KillerK

who cares he is a racist.

cherrylula

Here's the thing, all these scientists saying there's no more oil in the gulf, yeah because it is in the marshes and at the bottom. The douchebags out there taking water samples out in the ocean need to come up into the vast bayous and take some samples there. Read close when you come across the articles claiming the oil is going away. They keep talking about the ocean and the gulf, and well the oil at this point isn't just floating around on the surface of the gulf. Some of it is, but most of it is in the giant underwater plumes and in the bayous.

And for those spouting off about these "oil eating microbes," what they don't tell you is that when that occurs, what you end up with is DEAD ZONE in the water. There's already lots of dead zone down here from this, oil in the bayou isn't new. So no matter what, they might eat the oil, but it doesn't fix the delicate ecosystem. No fish or things will live in the dead zones for a long time.

They're saying the cleanup will go on until at least December now, as new reports come out when they are finding the oil. They've barely cleaned anything up! It is fucked.

DWB

LOL You people don't really believe this stuff, do you?

cherrylula

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP#Political_record

Nah, BP doesn't have any influence on elections or government policy.

dyna mo

i never even implied they don't make campaign contributions, you need to learn to read as well. my comment stated bp is not a puppet master for u.s. elections and the noaa.

do you even know what lobbying means? i doubt it. lobbying has zero to do with electing public officials and one cannot lobby the noaa.

now run along and play the victim while laying on couch somewhere else.

cherrylula

Look at all the ass sucking you've done in this thread, then I come in here and post some logic and off you go on me... you are such a hypocrite and I knew you'd post something like this.

It is funny to see someone try to be smart, and then fuck up their own thread with such ignorance. BRAVO.

Congrats on being so intelligent.

edit: this is what gfy is all about... I don't even have to try to bait anymore, just post and it happens. Serge, if you're out there, I am thinking about you. lol

dyna mo

fyi, brainiac, no one cares about you and your desperate attempts for attention from the gfy crowd.

cherrylula

sure sure, nobody quotes me or posts in my threads... lol

this board is so fucking dead these days, even you are so desperate you quote me.

and it's a message board, not a "crowd" which would imply some sort of group of people who gave a shit.... next.

dyna mo

congrats, your big accomplishment in life is stirring up gfy. good on ya!