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Jaeger · 08-08-2010, 08:10 PM

Hey probably like most of you I don't have any clue about mainstream..

Is it worth checking out? Im no longer making enough cash to survive in adult, so its either a real job or diversification...

Thoughts please

marketsmart · 08-08-2010, 08:15 PM

it depends on what your skills are..

if you are good with seo then mainstream i think is easier because they niches are endless..

and many niches have a lot less competition..

however, like adult, you have to find your own untapped markets and put in the work if you want to have success..

.

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Jason Voorhees · 08-08-2010, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

it depends on what your skills are..

if you are good with seo then mainstream i think is easier because they niches are endless..

and many niches have a lot less competition..

however, like adult, you have to find your own untapped markets and put in the work if you want to have success..

.

baddog · 08-08-2010, 08:17 PM

There is a lot more mainstream stuff to promote than adult. More customers too.

Barefootsies · 08-08-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

it depends on what your skills are..

if you are good with seo then mainstream i think is easier because they niches are endless..

and many niches have a lot less competition..

however, like adult, you have to find your own untapped markets and put in the work if you want to have success..

This pretty much sums it up.

Plus the level of true competition is weaker in mainstream IMHO. There is more of it, but from what I have found most are not effective or efficient in their campaigns. Most try and take on too much. Trying to be all things to all people.

Argos88 · 08-09-2010, 04:44 AM

its a thousands times easier to make money with mainstream than with adult right now.

if you are not doing mainstream right now, you are missing big checks, that's for sure..

the *ACTION* is in mainstream right now... same action that was in adult during 2002-2006.

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TeenCat · 08-09-2010, 04:58 AM

thank you for the post here, and please anybody know about guide to mainstream, something like signbucksdaily or whopaidme or something like review sites for mainstream programs? big ones, fresh ones, good ones ... ? thanks much in advance and wish you best with your business everyone!

MasterBlow · 08-09-2010, 05:10 AM

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kada · 08-09-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

thank you for the post here, and please anybody know about guide to mainstream, something like signbucksdaily or whopaidme or something like review sites for mainstream programs? big ones, fresh ones, good ones ... ? thanks much in advance and wish you best with your business everyone!

I thot you were making millions..hehe.. stay in adult men... so much money

TeenCat · 08-09-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kada

I thot you were making millions..hehe.. stay in adult men... so much money

man i like my job, doesnt matter how much i am making or will make, i think i will be always trying something new around online business

i wish you all the same!

Brad Gosse · 08-09-2010, 10:10 AM

Making the move from adult to mainstream has it's challenges.

You can't just force traffic to landing pages like you do in adult. Most of the good traffic sources require constant tweaking to keep conversions up and campaigns profitable.

I am finally on the other end of it and making good returns after a long journey.

It's not easier than adult. It's much harder and you have to change your thinking.

TeenCat · 08-09-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

check out http://promomickey.com/webmasters/

and thank you man, but looks to me like everything is going through shareasale link, is there only one, shareasale, sponsor?

Agent 488 · 08-09-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

thank you for the post here, and please anybody know about guide to mainstream, something like signbucksdaily or whopaidme or something like review sites for mainstream programs? big ones, fresh ones, good ones ... ? thanks much in advance and wish you best with your business everyone!

no guides like that i know of but look at clickbank, amazon and cj to get some ideas on what you can promote and to get you started.

TeenCat · 08-09-2010, 11:10 AM

thank you agent will look around, lets see what they have for me

Peace · 08-10-2010, 08:20 PM

Would turn my www.ClassyContent.com script of CMS to broker main stream content. Especially 3D Content

Wagerboy · 08-10-2010, 09:13 PM

i made alot of money with clickbank. pain in the ass to get approved tho...

tony286 · 08-10-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

Making the move from adult to mainstream has it's challenges.

You can't just force traffic to landing pages like you do in adult. Most of the good traffic sources require constant tweaking to keep conversions up and campaigns profitable.

I am finally on the other end of it and making good returns after a long journey.

It's not easier than adult. It's much harder and you have to change your thinking.

I really like your stuff , good job

Sausage · 08-10-2010, 09:35 PM

Just like adult ... mainstream is no longer just easy easy money from doing a few hours work a day, then sitting back and posting on boards or surfing the web. You still need to put in the hours of work and possibly more so than in Adult where you can still get traffic quite easily.

My adult sales were down last year, and after making almost $500k a year 2004-6, I was looking down the barrel of a 5 digit income this year if I didn't pull my finger and do something. I still pull a decent income from adult, but until things pick up to my liking its on autopilot. I went hardcore mainstream at the start of this year and I am not talking 'hardcore' as in a few sites a day and a bit of a tickle with some trades then off to a 3 hour lunch, I mean building my freaking ass off, 8 hours at LEAST a day, pushing trades, hunting down traffic, building sites, building feeders, linkwheels, harnesing my growing traffic, split testing different cpa offers ... the work never ends but the results are there.

July 1 - today .. after 6 months for my main sponsor (80%+ of my mainstream income).

Yeah the money is there, and sure at the moment its easier than adult to build, hell I built that income level in just over 6 months full time!

But....

If you aren't willing to put the hours in you will see a worthwhile return, and by work i mean work your damned arse off. I don't mean surfing boards, youtube, playing farmville, chatting on icq, and twiddling your thumbs ... I mean building sites, building links, building traffic, like your life depends on it.

This can be applied to adult, and many people still make good money even as affiliates, its just that 95% of adult webmasters are so bloody lazy they put in a few hours work and because they aren't making $10k a month anymore they give up.

Adult is down, but if you think maintream is a golden meal ticket you have some surprises coming your way.

HighEnergy · 08-10-2010, 10:59 PM

Just imagine if you had started "mainstream" 8-9-10 yrs ago Sausage? It will never washout like the adult marketing segment has for most.

Sausage · 08-11-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HighEnergy

Just imagine if you had started "mainstream" 8-9-10 yrs ago Sausage? It will never washout like the adult marketing segment has for most.

Yeah thats what I am finding, mainstream is so vast and so huge that some niches alone dwarf the size of adult!!

The thing I think I am finding the most is that you can't 'torrent' most of the stuff in mainstream .. you have no option but to pay and surfers often come prepared to pay.

Don't get me wrong I made a small fortune out of Adult, and have enjoyed it, but I can spot the trend and now is a good time to diversify

Sarah_Jayne · 08-11-2010, 04:19 AM

I find myself putting more of my non-Max Cash working hours into my mainstream projects than my adult these days. However, most of that so far is stuff like adsense and I need to focus more on selling products like I do with adult.

mudsaliva · 08-11-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

The thing I think I am finding the most is that you can't 'torrent' most of the stuff in mainstream .. you have no option but to pay and surfers often come prepared to pay.

that's an awesome point

Axzar · 08-11-2010, 09:35 AM

A decent, positive thread on GFY? The world is gonna end!

Emil · 08-11-2010, 09:40 AM

No money in mainstream. Stay in adult.

livegirlsonbed · 08-11-2010, 10:14 AM

never tried mainstream.. but i think if someone have niched traffic can earn money in any niche

SykkBoy · 08-11-2010, 10:32 AM

"mainstream" is a vast generic world

you need to focus on *something* but don't think of it as mainstream, think of it as something that isn't adult....using this mindset will help you focus more. Try doing something you like. For example, if you like sports, build a site related to sports. There are numerous sports-related sponsors out there. Say you wanted to start a sports blog talking about baseball. Find sponsors on places like cj.com and many of the other ad networks like it. Now, build yourself some feeder sites, since most non-adult sponsors are a little stricter in who they let promote them. You'll want some traffic flow into your target site. So, build some mini baseball blogs and promote those by posting on sports and fan forums (as a sig or non-spammy post about a topic). Send that traffic to this generic mini-blog that has no ads on it, but is pushing your target site.

As your target site grows, you can start adding ads little by little. Don't start with a banner farm. You have to groom and grow your site. Once you have a decent amount of posts/articles on your baseball blog, you can take these and condense them into an e-book and sell it on clickbank. Add some extras to your ebook and promote the ebook on your blog and inside of the ebook, promote your blog (some who may buy the book through clickbank's marketplace might not know about your blog to begin with).

Once you've written your ebook, build a lot of promo materials for clickbank affiliates to push your ebook. You can also start looking for other like-minded sites for link swaps, but also to push your ebook. Now, your site has two revenue streams: ads and the ebook.

Then don't forget, inside of your ebook...you can place more ads ;-)

This is just an example of something you can do in the non-adult world.

Jason Voorhees · 08-11-2010, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

Just like adult ... mainstream is no longer just easy easy money from doing a few hours work a day, then sitting back and posting on boards or surfing the web. You still need to put in the hours of work and possibly more so than in Adult where you can still get traffic quite easily.

My adult sales were down last year, and after making almost $500k a year 2004-6, I was looking down the barrel of a 5 digit income this year if I didn't pull my finger and do something. I still pull a decent income from adult, but until things pick up to my liking its on autopilot. I went hardcore mainstream at the start of this year and I am not talking 'hardcore' as in a few sites a day and a bit of a tickle with some trades then off to a 3 hour lunch, I mean building my freaking ass off, 8 hours at LEAST a day, pushing trades, hunting down traffic, building sites, building feeders, linkwheels, harnesing my growing traffic, split testing different cpa offers ... the work never ends but the results are there.

July 1 - today .. after 6 months for my main sponsor (80%+ of my mainstream income).

Yeah the money is there, and sure at the moment its easier than adult to build, hell I built that income level in just over 6 months full time!

But....

If you aren't willing to put the hours in you will see a worthwhile return, and by work i mean work your damned arse off. I don't mean surfing boards, youtube, playing farmville, chatting on icq, and twiddling your thumbs ... I mean building sites, building links, building traffic, like your life depends on it.

This can be applied to adult, and many people still make good money even as affiliates, its just that 95% of adult webmasters are so bloody lazy they put in a few hours work and because they aren't making $10k a month anymore they give up.

Adult is down, but if you think maintream is a golden meal ticket you have some surprises coming your way.

Awesome post man.

paperboy · 08-11-2010, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger

Hey probably like most of you I don't have any clue about mainstream..

Is it worth checking out? Im no longer making enough cash to survive in adult, so its either a real job or diversification...

Thoughts please

Why don't you try Gambling? Gabling is very GOOD MONEY!

IllTestYourGirls · 08-11-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Just like adult ... mainstream is no longer just easy easy money from doing a few hours work a day, then sitting back and posting on boards or surfing the web. You still need to put in the hours of work and possibly more so than in Adult where you can still get traffic quite easily.

My adult sales were down last year, and after making almost $500k a year 2004-6, I was looking down the barrel of a 5 digit income this year if I didn't pull my finger and do something.

How does this happen? Thats a pretty huge fall man.

Lightning · 08-11-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger

Hey probably like most of you I don't have any clue about mainstream..

Is it worth checking out? Im no longer making enough cash to survive in adult, so its either a real job or diversification...

Thoughts please

Mainstream will be around forever Internet porn is gonna get worse than it already is. Adult will still be around, but only a few select will survive.

Sausage · 08-11-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

How does this happen? Thats a pretty huge fall man.

Good question actually and I am definitely to blame for it in part.

It was a combination of factors, one being that I sort of took my foot off the gas pedal and cruised for a year or two. Though other factors were the crackdown in adwords, worsening of ratios, drying up of good traffic sources, and lack of fresh products to promote. Though as I said I was probably the most significant reason for a decline in profit as I reached a level where i was comfortable and just cruised expecting everything to run itself and maintain... learned that lesson the hard way

PornMD · 08-11-2010, 07:10 PM

It all starts with the domain and overall ease of ranking. You might have the perfect niche in mind, but if you're not able to rank for it, you're going to be spending gobs and gobs of time doing the necessary linkbuilding or social media positioning or money to buy traffic in order to get any traction. Get an exact match generic keyword com/net/org domain on the other hand and sometimes even with little content and links you can score page 1 or even #1 for the term, which can be nice if it's a high traffic and/or high CPC term.

I have a bunch of mainstream developers/SEOs who are repeat buyers of mine getting these kinds of domains from me and they're undoubtedly making a killing from developing on them. I've got over 2k domains and I'd get into it myself if I didn't hate dealing with all aspects of development. :/

That said, domaining is a mainstream biz itself and business is good.

Sausage · 08-11-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

That said, domaining is a mainstream biz itself and business is good.

I thought domaining took a big hit during the GFC? Sure saw prices on big time domains taking huge hits.

PornMD · 08-11-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

I thought domaining took a big hit during the GFC? Sure saw prices on big time domains taking huge hits.

It did, and a lot of domainers who were more lucky than good probably went out of business. My business did take a hit but I've stayed afloat and it's been picking back up rather well over the past several months. Recently the highest sale of a domain ever occurred (Insurance.com) and in general there's been quite a few high sales over the past year especially...the market did take a hit but it's been coming back for sure.

The $x,xxx to $xx,xxx price point is where things took the biggest hit I think...there's always a market for $xxx and lower (which is primarily what I deal in) and $xxx,xxx and higher covers fairly one-of-a-kind category killers which are sought after well enough for them to sell sooner or later. A lot of owners of such names that have them for sale own a lot of them and can afford to sit back, ask what they're asking and wait for it to come.

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marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	it depends on what your skills are.. if you are good with seo then mainstream i think is easier because they niches are endless.. and many niches have a lot less competition.. however, like adult, you have to find your own untapped markets and put in the work if you want to have success.. .

08-08-2010, 08:17 PM	#5
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	There is a lot more mainstream stuff to promote than adult. More customers too.

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Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	its a thousands times easier to make money with mainstream than with adult right now. if you are not doing mainstream right now, you are missing big checks, that's for sure.. the ACTION is in mainstream right now... same action that was in adult during 2002-2006. .

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08-10-2010, 09:35 PM	#19
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Just like adult ... mainstream is no longer just easy easy money from doing a few hours work a day, then sitting back and posting on boards or surfing the web. You still need to put in the hours of work and possibly more so than in Adult where you can still get traffic quite easily. My adult sales were down last year, and after making almost $500k a year 2004-6, I was looking down the barrel of a 5 digit income this year if I didn't pull my finger and do something. I still pull a decent income from adult, but until things pick up to my liking its on autopilot. I went hardcore mainstream at the start of this year and I am not talking 'hardcore' as in a few sites a day and a bit of a tickle with some trades then off to a 3 hour lunch, I mean building my freaking ass off, 8 hours at LEAST a day, pushing trades, hunting down traffic, building sites, building feeders, linkwheels, harnesing my growing traffic, split testing different cpa offers ... the work never ends but the results are there. July 1 - today .. after 6 months for my main sponsor (80%+ of my mainstream income). Yeah the money is there, and sure at the moment its easier than adult to build, hell I built that income level in just over 6 months full time! But.... If you aren't willing to put the hours in you will see a worthwhile return, and by work i mean work your damned arse off. I don't mean surfing boards, youtube, playing farmville, chatting on icq, and twiddling your thumbs ... I mean building sites, building links, building traffic, like your life depends on it. This can be applied to adult, and many people still make good money even as affiliates, its just that 95% of adult webmasters are so bloody lazy they put in a few hours work and because they aren't making $10k a month anymore they give up. Adult is down, but if you think maintream is a golden meal ticket you have some surprises coming your way. Last edited by Sausage; 08-10-2010 at 09:38 PM..

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HighEnergy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 806	Just imagine if you had started "mainstream" 8-9-10 yrs ago Sausage? It will never washout like the adult marketing segment has for most.

08-11-2010, 04:19 AM	#22
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I find myself putting more of my non-Max Cash working hours into my mainstream projects than my adult these days. However, most of that so far is stuff like adsense and I need to focus more on selling products like I do with adult.

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Axzar Random Jackass Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,837	A decent, positive thread on GFY? The world is gonna end!

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livegirlsonbed Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 487	never tried mainstream.. but i think if someone have niched traffic can earn money in any niche

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SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	"mainstream" is a vast generic world you need to focus on something but don't think of it as mainstream, think of it as something that isn't adult....using this mindset will help you focus more. Try doing something you like. For example, if you like sports, build a site related to sports. There are numerous sports-related sponsors out there. Say you wanted to start a sports blog talking about baseball. Find sponsors on places like cj.com and many of the other ad networks like it. Now, build yourself some feeder sites, since most non-adult sponsors are a little stricter in who they let promote them. You'll want some traffic flow into your target site. So, build some mini baseball blogs and promote those by posting on sports and fan forums (as a sig or non-spammy post about a topic). Send that traffic to this generic mini-blog that has no ads on it, but is pushing your target site. As your target site grows, you can start adding ads little by little. Don't start with a banner farm. You have to groom and grow your site. Once you have a decent amount of posts/articles on your baseball blog, you can take these and condense them into an e-book and sell it on clickbank. Add some extras to your ebook and promote the ebook on your blog and inside of the ebook, promote your blog (some who may buy the book through clickbank's marketplace might not know about your blog to begin with). Once you've written your ebook, build a lot of promo materials for clickbank affiliates to push your ebook. You can also start looking for other like-minded sites for link swaps, but also to push your ebook. Now, your site has two revenue streams: ads and the ebook. Then don't forget, inside of your ebook...you can place more ads ;-) This is just an example of something you can do in the non-adult world. __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

08-11-2010, 07:10 PM	#33
PornMD Mainstream Businessman Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 9,291	It all starts with the domain and overall ease of ranking. You might have the perfect niche in mind, but if you're not able to rank for it, you're going to be spending gobs and gobs of time doing the necessary linkbuilding or social media positioning or money to buy traffic in order to get any traction. Get an exact match generic keyword com/net/org domain on the other hand and sometimes even with little content and links you can score page 1 or even #1 for the term, which can be nice if it's a high traffic and/or high CPC term. I have a bunch of mainstream developers/SEOs who are repeat buyers of mine getting these kinds of domains from me and they're undoubtedly making a killing from developing on them. I've got over 2k domains and I'd get into it myself if I didn't hate dealing with all aspects of development. :/ That said, domaining is a mainstream biz itself and business is good. __________________ Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.