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Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-19-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wig

You really believe the movie was financed with customer funds?

Oh brother.

PornMD · 08-19-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

My worry is does this put Epass as a company in jeopardy? Many of us have significant money in their hands. Shall I submit for a wire?

Just saying im a bit concerned.

epitome · 08-19-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Does anyone know if it will get nationwide release tomorrow as originally planned?
WG

Everything points to no. It's what I've been planning to do on August 20th for quite awhile.

pornstar2fag · 08-19-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

From the guy that has to keep changing handles.

10 + people use this nick.

ShellyCrash · 08-19-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

I give them props for trying too as far as the making of the movie, getting an enticing cast put together etc. It does LOOK interesting and I would like to see it. I don't give them props for advertising for it on the very sites that are crumbling this industry, and I'm surprised so many people around here seem either oblivious to that fact or oblivious to how wrong that is. They chose to advertise that movie on a bunch of sites that give all your shit away for free.

You know what though- that's what they get. I'm not going to shit on them for making the movie, but if that's where they chose to promote it then they are reaping what they sewed. The same people surfing those sites are the same people that share torrents. They aren't going to support a drama in the theatres.

datatank · 08-19-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag

what? it bombed? you mean all that amazing golden traffic on the pornhub network did nothing for it? omg, who would have believed it? they have "more traffic than god" though, how can it be? i'm sure none of those porn thieves on those tubes did a search for "middle men movie + torrent". couldn't happen. i mean they are so upstanding and want to contribute so much. i can't believe it at all. i am shocked.

why the hate?

datatank · 08-19-2010, 02:44 PM

LOL I think I have heard it all now.

Do you think my $2k in EPASS is safe or did he use it to make this movie?

dyna mo · 08-19-2010, 02:51 PM

could someone explain to me please how making a flop movie is the current way to launder moneys?

JohnnyTheJerkoffGymsock · 08-19-2010, 02:53 PM

Too bad wanted to see that movie, I wonder if Luke Wilson was as bored doing it as he was doing ATT commercials.

docputer · 08-19-2010, 02:56 PM

Perhaps it will do well on video

dyna mo · 08-19-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyTheJerkoffGymsock

Too bad wanted to see that movie, I wonder if Luke Wilson was as bored doing it as he was doing ATT commercials.

perhaps some good will come out of this movie and no one will cast that deadpan deadbeat wannabe actor in anything, including commercials. biggest mistake the middlemen movie makers did was cast him and have him narrate.

Varius · 08-19-2010, 03:32 PM

They will make profit. You guys are forgetting selling the pay-cable rights to someone like SHO or HBO and the OnDemand orders.

candyflip · 08-19-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

could someone explain to me please how making a flop movie is the current way to launder moneys?

dyna mo · 08-19-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

they say a picture is worth 1000 words but i have no idea what this pic means re: the question.

PornMD · 08-19-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

they say a picture is worth 1000 words but i have no idea what this pic means re: the question.

From IMDB:

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New York, 1959. Max Bialystock was once the king of Broadway, but now all his shows close on opening night. Things turn around when he's visited by the neurotic accountant Leo Bloom, who proposes a scheme tailor-made for producers who can only make flops: raise far more money than you need, then make sure the show is despised. No one will be interested in it, so you can pocket the surplus. To this end, they produce a musical called Springtime for Hitler written by escaped Nazi Franz Liebken. Then they get the insanely flamboyant Roger De Bris to direct. Finally, they hire as a lead actress the loopy Swedish bombshell Ulla (whose last name has over 15 syllables). As opening night draws near, what can go wrong? Well, there's no accounting for taste...

I never saw the movie or the play it's based on but sorta knew what it was about. Not entirely sure how it'd translate to the question about money laundering since there was no "money raising" for this movie afaik.

GregE · 08-19-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

You know what though- that's what they get. I'm not going to shit on them for making the movie, but if that's where they chose to promote it then they are reaping what they sewed.

Well, keep in mind we're getting this info secondhand, but if true, I would agree that that's some serious bad form.

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The same people surfing those sites are the same people that share torrents. They aren't going to support a drama in the theatres.

Trying to sell any sort of content, mainstream or not, on a tube is like trying to sell sand on the beach.

marketsmart · 08-19-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

i dont see the fail in this pic...

to me it looks like something magical will happen as soon as that motor gets started...

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Ethersync · 08-19-2010, 04:45 PM

The official numbers are in. It's going to be on 16 screens this weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/...0&wk=34&p=.htm

PornMD · 08-19-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

The official numbers are in. It's going to be on 16 screens this weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/...0&wk=34&p=.htm

Ouch. I say it'll get back up to $400 per theater this weekend for a mystical magical $6,400 gross and that'll be all she wrote. On both Monday and Wednesday this week, it made a whopping $70 avg per theater. $70! With ticket prices being what they are that's what, 7-10 people per day avg per theater?

So if it doesn't go wide, it'll end up with just over $700,000 final gross.

Brujah · 08-19-2010, 05:05 PM

I think the topic is still interesting enough, and it could make a great HBO or SHO series with good writers. Did the writer just suck? Was the content too "porn" for mainstream to accept?

PornMD · 08-19-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I think the topic is still interesting enough, and it could make a great HBO or SHO series with good writers. Did the writer just suck? Was the content too "porn" for mainstream to accept?

All I know is that the Facebook movie likely won't flop this bad, and that'll be tragic. This actually did look interesting enough and I couldn't care less about the story behind Facebook n whatnot. I hope that one flops but it probably won't.

Perhaps it was too porn for mainstream.

lazycash · 08-19-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

My worry is does this put Epass as a company in jeopardy? Many of us have significant money in their hands. Shall I submit for a wire?

Just saying im a bit concerned.

Lol, the movie was loosely based around Epass owner, other than that there is no correlation.

dyna mo · 08-19-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

From IMDB:

I never saw the movie or the play it's based on but sorta knew what it was about. Not entirely sure how it'd translate to the question about money laundering since there was no "money raising" for this movie afaik.

ahh, i see.

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

i dont see the fail in this pic...

to me it looks like something magical will happen as soon as that motor gets started...

.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-19-2010, 05:50 PM

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Movie Execs Charged in Money-Laundering Case

Federal prosecutors say Limelight Films was a front in international drug smuggling.
July 20, 2006|Andrew Blankstein and Richard Winton, Times Staff Writers
Limelight Films seemed from the outside like so many upstart production companies in Hollywood: It had a Sunset Boulevard address, a connection to Tinseltown royalty and deals to distribute a small slate of low-budget films.

But federal authorities have alleged that the film corporation was a front for an international drug-smuggling and money-laundering operation stretching from Los Angeles to Switzerland.

stigation dubbed "Operation Director's Cut."

D'Esclavelles and De Basseville were arrested in Arlington, Va., and charged with conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy.

Authorities said they learned about Limelight from an informant and set up a sting operation in which agents with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration posed as Ecstasy buyers working for South American drug dealers.

The criminal complaint alleges that Limelight executives laundered $300,000 through the film company for the undercover agents. The arrests followed numerous meetings between the agents and Limelight executives, who allegedly promised to arrange the sale of half a million Ecstasy tablets, according to court documents.

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Investing in a film is considered a smart way to launder money. Accounting practices are weak, transparency low, and if you are a thug with a lot of cash ?to invest? you get to hang around movie stars by bankrolling a film.

ADG

NickB. · 08-19-2010, 06:02 PM

I havent been able to watch it yet, I hope everything works out well for Chris

PornNewz · 08-19-2010, 06:02 PM

a not too bad review from Hollywood Reporter

candyflip · 08-19-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

they say a picture is worth 1000 words but i have no idea what this pic means re: the question.

They came up with a scheme that would allow them to profit from a flop. That was it...didn't really have anything to do with money laundering.

craftyc · 08-19-2010, 08:34 PM

I guess all that is left to be said is "Porn is Dead" or maybe "Adapt or Die" ;)

lagcam · 08-19-2010, 09:04 PM

A movie with this subject matter was never going to be a box office smash at the cinema. I am surprised at how many people are surprised by this.

As many have said before me, it was always going to make most of its money through other channels.

tony286 · 08-19-2010, 09:17 PM

The people vs larry flynt and boogie nights two amazing films ,amazing performances and at the box office they were duds. People dont want to watch movies about porn.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-19-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299

The people vs larry flynt and boogie nights two amazing films ,amazing performances and at the box office they were duds. People dont want to watch movies about porn.

People don't want to watch a movie about porn, they want to watch porn.

Plus, times are hard, so people want to take their spouses, family, kids to the movies. This is something you would go see with a buddy.

tony286 · 08-19-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

People don't want to watch a movie about porn, they want to watch porn.

Plus, times are hard, so people want to take their spouses, family, kids to the movies. This is something you would go see with a buddy.

you are right

directfiesta · 08-19-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius

They will make profit. You guys are forgetting selling the pay-cable rights to someone like SHO or HBO and the OnDemand orders.

lol... you obviously never been in that business ... I did . Already posted that 6 million units needs to be sold to barely break even ... as for ppv-ondemand-cable, many other titles are trying to get in those spots .. no one will rush to the doors to book that film.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-19-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299

The people vs larry flynt and boogie nights two amazing films ,amazing performances and at the box office they were duds. People dont want to watch movies about porn.

People vs Larry Flynt grossed over $20 million domestically, and Boogie Nights grossed over $26 million at the box office domestically (and over $43 million internationally).

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Originally Posted by Brujah

I think the topic is still interesting enough, and it could make a great HBO or SHO series with good writers. Did the writer just suck? Was the content too "porn" for mainstream to accept?

The creators (Malick, et al) originally peddled "Middle Men" to cable as a series, but when there were no takers, they decided to try and make it as a film.

Even with the "more traffic than God", traffic from Mansef / Manwin tube sites (built upon stolen content), it bombed big time.

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Originally Posted by Varius

They will make profit. You guys are forgetting selling the pay-cable rights to someone like SHO or HBO and the OnDemand orders.

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Originally Posted by lagcam

A movie with this subject matter was never going to be a box office smash at the cinema. I am surprised at how many people are surprised by this.

As many have said before me, it was always going to make most of its money through other channels.

The money that cable companies pay for a movie is largely based upon it's box office performance. The cable companies previously rejected "Middle Man" as a cable project. How much do you really think they are going to pay for it now?

Anyway you cut it, "Middle Men" was a dismal flop, and will most likely have to be sold as a loss leader...

As the Distributor, Paramount will likely get a lion's share of the ancillary markets, as paltry as that may be, given the poor box office performance numbers.

One more factor to consider is that even box office bonanza movies, only make back about what they make during their theatrical release through the various other markets (DVD, VOD, Cable, etc).

At this point, "Middle Men" has grossed less than $700k (that's not counting the ad budget, or deducting Paramount's distributor share, or even the theater's share), so any chance of this movie breaking even at this point appears to be a total pipe dream.

Not too worry though, because Middle Men is sure to make ~$20 more tonight, because I am heading out to see it shortly, since it will not be playing anywhere near me tomorrow, or much of anywhere for that matter.

I'll post my review tomorrow...

ADG

xNetworx · 08-19-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

People vs Larry Flynt grossed over $20 million domestically, and Boogie Nights grossed over $26 million at the box office domestically (and over $43 million internationally).

The creators (Malick, et al) originally peddled "Middle Men" to cable as a series, but when there were no takers, they decided to try and make it as a film.

Even with the "more traffic than God", traffic from Mansef / Manwin tube sites (built upon stolen content), it bombed big time.

The money that cable companies pay for a movie is largely based upon it's box office performance. The cable companies previously rejected "Middle Man" as a cable project. How much do you really think they are going to pay for it now?

Anyway you cut it, "Middle Men" was a dismal flop, and will most likely have to be sold as a loss leader...

As the Distributor, Paramount will likely get a lion's share of the ancillary markets, as paltry as that may be, given the poor box office performance numbers.

One more factor to consider is that even box office bonanza movies, only make back about what they make during their theatrical release through the various other markets (DVD, VOD, Cable, etc).

At this point, "Middle Men" has grossed less than $700k (that's not counting the ad budget, or deducting Paramount's distributor share, or even the theater's share), so any chance of this movie breaking even at this point appears to be a total pipe dream.

Not too worry though, because Middle Men is sure to make ~$20 more tonight, because I am heading out to see it shortly, since it will not be playing anywhere near me tomorrow, or much of anywhere for that matter.

I'll post my review tomorrow...

ADG

Why do you have such a hard-on to bash this film? Serious question.

dyna mo · 08-19-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

i see. so mallick is a drug dealer who wants to hang out with owen wilson. makes sense.

FrozenJag · 08-19-2010, 10:13 PM

Wow, the guys laughing at my concern truly are idiots. Probably the same guys sending sobv sales still thinking they'll get paid.

I don't live on gfy but it was my understanding epass owner funded the movie, if he goes broke what keeps him from cleaning out one of hisotherbusinesses holding millions and disapearing? It's not like their a real bank with insurance.

Fucking morons wow. Then again, if I had five dollars in my account I probably wouldn't be worried either.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-20-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i see. so mallick is a drug dealer who wants to hang out with owen wilson. makes sense.

I never inferred that Mallick was/is a drug dealer. How did you deduce that, or do you know something about him that I don't?

BTW, Owen Wilson wasn't even in the movie, genius (maybe it would have faired better at the box office if he was).

Anyway, I just got back home a little while ago from seeing "Middle Men". I'll post my review later today after I get some sleep...

ADG

Shap · 08-20-2010, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Lol, the movie was loosely based around Epass owner, other than that there is no correlation.

The reason he said that is because the guy who funded and produced the movie owns epass.

Shap · 08-20-2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Wow, the guys laughing at my concern truly are idiots. Probably the same guys sending sobv sales still thinking they'll get paid.

I don't live on gfy but it was my understanding epass owner funded the movie, if he goes broke what keeps him from cleaning out one of hisotherbusinesses holding millions and disapearing? It's not like their a real bank with insurance.

Fucking morons wow. Then again, if I had five dollars in my account I probably wouldn't be worried either.

I got what you were saying

My understanding is Chris can easily handle the cost of the movie. Of course you never know what the true situation is. but from everything I've heard it won't put him out of business.

Sly · 08-20-2010, 06:58 AM

I saw the trailer several times on TV, and to be completely honest... not only did the movie look dull and cliché, I had no idea what the movie was even supposed to be about. Some good named actors, yes, including one of my favorites: Ribisi. But aside from that... I saw guys wearing suits, walking off an airplane, and throwing money into the air. What about that makes me want to shell out $10, in the summer, to go watch this? Nothing really.

From reading little notes here on the board about the movie... I still don't even know what it's supposed to be about. Porn? Scamming porn? Getting rich on the Internet?

This isn't hating. Just honest comments. I wish it would have went better for them, pretty cool for giving it a shot though, I'll give them that.

Dirty Lord · 08-20-2010, 07:00 AM

i dont know, for sure

candyflip · 08-20-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol... you obviously never been in that business ... I did . Already posted that 6 million units needs to be sold to barely break even ... as for ppv-ondemand-cable, many other titles are trying to get in those spots .. no one will rush to the doors to book that film.

Didn't he just post the other day about a big movie investment opportunity?

FrozenJag · 08-20-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I got what you were saying

My understanding is Chris can easily handle the cost of the movie. Of course you never know what the true situation is. but from everything I've heard it won't put him out of business.

Thanks for the info Shap. I knew surely I wasnt the only one capable of thinking outside the box and having alot to loose. For all I knew this movie could break him. Good to know he atleast allegedly is multi multi.

tony286 · 08-20-2010, 08:13 AM

"People vs Larry Flynt grossed over $20 million domestically, and Boogie Nights grossed over $26 million at the box office domestically (and over $43 million internationally)."

When considering what it cost to make them they were flops not train wrecks but flops.

Mutt · 08-20-2010, 08:22 AM

i was going to give him kudos for getting the movie made and a distribution deal, the odds against getting a theatrical movie made and produced are astronomical. studios and production companies have hundreds of scripts in development, only a tiny fraction ever make it to production. of those that do get made, the large majority are failures - movie business is all about the blockbuster these days though hitting some solid doubles is profitable.

if he footed the bill for the entire film, what a waste and a total conceit. that money could have gone to so many better things, give it to a hospital, get a clinic or floor name after you or somebody you love(d), fund a summer camp for sick kids ...

Thoroughbred horse industry and the movie industry survive on people with too much money and too much vanity.

dyna mo · 08-20-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I never inferred that Mallick was/is a drug dealer.

aww come on now adg, don't woos out-stand your ground. you posted this

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Movie Execs Charged in Money-Laundering Case

Federal prosecutors say Limelight Films was a front in international drug smuggling.
July 20, 2006|Andrew Blankstein and Richard Winton, Times Staff Writers
Limelight Films seemed from the outside like so many upstart production companies in Hollywood: It had a Sunset Boulevard address, a connection to Tinseltown royalty and deals to distribute a small slate of low-budget films.

But federal authorities have alleged that the film corporation was a front for an international drug-smuggling and money-laundering operation stretching from Los Angeles to Switzerland.

stigation dubbed "Operation Director's Cut."

D'Esclavelles and De Basseville were arrested in Arlington, Va., and charged with conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy.

Authorities said they learned about Limelight from an informant and set up a sting operation in which agents with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration posed as Ecstasy buyers working for South American drug dealers.

The criminal complaint alleges that Limelight executives laundered $300,000 through the film company for the undercover agents. The arrests followed numerous meetings between the agents and Limelight executives, who allegedly promised to arrange the sale of half a million Ecstasy tablets, according to court documents.

ADG[/QUOTE]

Caligari · 08-20-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tony299

"People vs Larry Flynt grossed over $20 million domestically, and Boogie Nights grossed over $26 million at the box office domestically (and over $43 million internationally)."

When considering what it cost to make them they were flops not train wrecks but flops.

Boogie Nights - Budget, $15 million. Gross 43 million. Not fantastic but definitely not a flop.

Caligari · 08-20-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

The creators (Malick, et al) originally peddled "Middle Men" to cable as a series, but when there were no takers, they decided to try and make it as a film.

Whats really interesting is that HBO IS MAKING a series about the porn biz, xbiz has a story on it.

Varius · 08-20-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Didn't he just post the other day about a big movie investment opportunity?

Indeed I did, and that film project has almost broken-even already just due to Foreign Sales (Distribution) and New Mexico Tax Break.

That project isn't aiming for huge box office success,either; it's not that kind of film. It's aiming for awards and will make money through other channels.

For the comment above regarding SHO/HBO only paying a lot for box office hits, that's false. They pay when they feel a film fits their audience/genre and especially when they get exclusivity to it. They are premium paid channels, not network TV; so they can afford to do this as long as they have faith the film is something their subscribers will want to see.

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FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	Wow, the guys laughing at my concern truly are idiots. Probably the same guys sending sobv sales still thinking they'll get paid. I don't live on gfy but it was my understanding epass owner funded the movie, if he goes broke what keeps him from cleaning out one of hisotherbusinesses holding millions and disapearing? It's not like their a real bank with insurance. Fucking morons wow. Then again, if I had five dollars in my account I probably wouldn't be worried either. Last edited by FrozenJag; 08-19-2010 at 10:14 PM..

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datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	LOL I think I have heard it all now. Do you think my $2k in EPASS is safe or did he use it to make this movie?

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,659	could someone explain to me please how making a flop movie is the current way to launder moneys?

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JohnnyTheJerkoffGymsock Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 16	Too bad wanted to see that movie, I wonder if Luke Wilson was as bored doing it as he was doing ATT commercials.

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Ethersync Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, Saint-Tropez, Bermuda, Moscow Posts: 5,289	The official numbers are in. It's going to be on 16 screens this weekend. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/...0&wk=34&p=.htm

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NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	I havent been able to watch it yet, I hope everything works out well for Chris

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craftyc Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: under your skin Posts: 162	I guess all that is left to be said is "Porn is Dead" or maybe "Adapt or Die" ;)

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	The people vs larry flynt and boogie nights two amazing films ,amazing performances and at the box office they were duds. People dont want to watch movies about porn.

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,298	I saw the trailer several times on TV, and to be completely honest... not only did the movie look dull and cliché, I had no idea what the movie was even supposed to be about. Some good named actors, yes, including one of my favorites: Ribisi. But aside from that... I saw guys wearing suits, walking off an airplane, and throwing money into the air. What about that makes me want to shell out $10, in the summer, to go watch this? Nothing really. From reading little notes here on the board about the movie... I still don't even know what it's supposed to be about. Porn? Scamming porn? Getting rich on the Internet? This isn't hating. Just honest comments. I wish it would have went better for them, pretty cool for giving it a shot though, I'll give them that. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available - 1st month free for GFY members - DM for details Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	"People vs Larry Flynt grossed over $20 million domestically, and Boogie Nights grossed over $26 million at the box office domestically (and over $43 million internationally)." When considering what it cost to make them they were flops not train wrecks but flops.

08-20-2010, 08:22 AM	#96
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i was going to give him kudos for getting the movie made and a distribution deal, the odds against getting a theatrical movie made and produced are astronomical. studios and production companies have hundreds of scripts in development, only a tiny fraction ever make it to production. of those that do get made, the large majority are failures - movie business is all about the blockbuster these days though hitting some solid doubles is profitable. if he footed the bill for the entire film, what a waste and a total conceit. that money could have gone to so many better things, give it to a hospital, get a clinic or floor name after you or somebody you love(d), fund a summer camp for sick kids ... Thoroughbred horse industry and the movie industry survive on people with too much money and too much vanity. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!