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Amputate Your Head · 09-12-2010, 09:34 AM

HD needs to cut some serious costs and there's talk of leaving Milwaukee if the union doesn't accept their offer.

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A city icon could be on its way out if union workers reject a proposed agreement between their leaders and their company. More than 1,000 jobs hang in the balance.

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SallyRand · 09-12-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

HD needs to cut some serious costs and there's talk of leaving Milwaukee if the union doesn't accept their offer.

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Kansas City is perfectly poised to become the new headquarters!:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...nsas_city.html

It is beautiful facility and the factory tours are fantastic!

Sally.

marketsmart · 09-12-2010, 10:39 AM

good.. unions no longer have a place in this country...

all they do is drive up the cost of labor to amounts that are not sustainable during economic downturns..

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JFK · 09-12-2010, 10:40 AM

sad thing, but it is a business and if they cant compete with foreign bikes, then it will go tits up

Amputate Your Head · 09-12-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

good.. unions no longer have a place in this country...

all they do is drive up the cost of labor to amounts that are not sustainable during economic downturns..

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while i completely agree, i'll bet the consumer costs will never go down, union or not. the savings from axing the union will not be passed on to us. someone else will be getting a big ass bonus instead.

Slick · 09-12-2010, 10:46 AM

If those people don't vote to take a cut to save their jobs, they're fucking retarded. Wouldn't you rather make a little less and still have a job or have no job at all ???

Amputate Your Head · 09-12-2010, 10:47 AM

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If those people don't vote to take a cut to save their jobs, they're fucking retarded. Wouldn't you rather make a little less and still have a job or have no job at all ???

union thinking is usually pretty warped. they still think no one else is able or willing to do their jobs. they are mistaken.

MaDalton · 09-12-2010, 10:59 AM

while unions make sense up to a certain point, they have lost touch to reality in many places. especially when you have to compete with countries like china

ottopottomouse · 09-12-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

union thinking is usually pretty warped.

Unfortunately unions always seem to be run by someone completely unemployable with a big gob.

Always telling whoever runs the factory that they are shit, but with no actual sensible ideas of their own about how to do things better.

suesheboy · 09-12-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

while i completely agree, i'll bet the consumer costs will never go down, union or not. the savings from axing the union will not be passed on to us. someone else will be getting a big ass bonus instead.

right on.

Spudstr · 09-12-2010, 11:12 AM

Thank god, Unions need to die.

In the datacenter world power installation Here in Virginia where we have non-union labor/electricians is a whole lot cheaper than power installs up in NYC, where is is mandated that a union electrician does the work. By a magnitude of almost 3x the cost down here for the same thing.

One DC tenant brought in their own non-union electrician one day, the union found out, inflated a 30 foot rat outside of the datacenter and picketed all day long. The tenant was in violation of the datacenter agreement where it says they can only use union electricians but still shows you what type of crap you see with the unions.

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Rochard · 09-13-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

good.. unions no longer have a place in this country...

all they do is drive up the cost of labor to amounts that are not sustainable during economic downturns...

Yesterday I just finished Lee Iacocca's book. He was the President of Ford and then later Chrysler. In the end he compared the US automakers to Japan. And the difference is in Japan they respect their workers, and the unions work with management to get things done. Here in the US it's the direct opposite.

In Japan, your typical auto plant has "six jobs". And if a worker in Japan shows up for work and is told today he'll be sweeping floors, he does it without complaint. Imagine that in the US.

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