My Speculation About Epassporte... - GoFuckYourself.com

marketsmart · 09-23-2010, 07:21 PM

Epassporte was a bank in Curacao...

That bank was creating loans, like all banks do, but these loans were being given to Chris to make movies. maybe their were loans made on other things that i am unaware of as well, but i think this will come out sooner or later...

It seemed like a safe play because these movies were expected to make money, like Middle Men.

St Kitts Bank allowed a certain % to be short of what epass users had on their epass virtual cards or maybe they just required that the amount available via virtual cards was available in the epass account at St Kitts...

Either Visa tightened their regulations on what % (maybe it was 100% all the time) was allowed or St Kitts wanted the amount available via virtual cards to be in the epass account at St Kitts.

They requested that epass transfer additional funds into St Kitts which epass did not comply with either out of lack to be able to do so or unwillingness to do so (I dont think this was an issue of requiring documents on all cardholders, although it could be and epass was unable to meet these demands in a timely manner because they have limited staff and many account holders)..

Middle Men was a total flop and the money was not available to pay the loan back..

When St Kitts asked Visa to shut off the virtual cards, that created panic with companies that funded the epass bank in Curacao and companies stopped sending in wires..

This stopped the float to the epass bank in Curacao and once again epass was unable to send money to meet the % demands of St Kitts Bank..

I think the scenario is a lot more complex, but I think this scenario makes the most sense..

Why else would St Kitts Bank put a freeze on the funds in the virtual accounts and why would epass issue a statement telling virtual accounts to contact the bank directly...

It's no secret how much money is in a persons virtual account. It's not like you can go to an ATM and withdraw $1000 if you only have $500 available..

The bank knows exactly how much money a person has in their account at any given time and with the ATM withdrawal feature frozen, there should be now issue figuring out what is in each account holders account. just like when a person closes an account at a regular bank, the bank gives you your entire account balance at the time of account closure...

IMHO the money was frozen the minute St Kitts Bank cut off the ability to use the Visa card..

This was something that epass knew and chose not to divulge because they were trying to get the matter resolved..

Now that epass has realized that there is nothing they can to resolve the issue, they are blaming St Kitts Bank..

I dont think the money in peoples virtual accounts is lost, but I think it will be very challenging for account holders to get the money back..

I truly believe that this whole mess is a result of one persons ego and bad business decisions that used money that didnt belong to them..

Although this is entirely based on my opinion and not on any verifiable facts, i am left with this conclusion as the only one that makes any sense..

I started to migrate away from epass the minute i found out that they were involved in online gaming..

I based this decision on the fact that anyone that would put my money at risk had no business being in control of my money..

I feel for the people that counted on epass being a safe way to keep their money..

I wish you all the best of luck in getting your money back...

Again, this post is based on my opinion and my opinion only and is not based on any verifiable facts, but I think this post makes the most sense...

In the end, you can formulate your own opinion....

I am sure all the facts will be made public at some point...

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DEA - banned for life · 09-23-2010, 07:22 PM

Cliff Notes:
EPASSPORTE FUCKING SCAMMED ME FOR 5k

I TRIED TO WARN WEBMASTERS FOR 3 YEARS THAT THEY RUN A SHIT
OPERATION AND HAVE NO PROBLEM LEAVING ACCOUNT HOLDER IN THE DUMPSTER

I TELL GFY 3 MONTS AGO THAT EPASS IS FUCKED AND GET THERE MONEY OUT

I ALMOST GET BANNED

THEY TAKE WEBMASTERS MONEY

I TRIED TO TELL WEBMASTERS THERE MONEY WAS GONE N TO GO TO ST KITTS

NOT MANY LISTNED ...MANY LOST MONEY..MANY LOOKED LIKE FOOLS KISSING EPASS ,CHRIS MALLICk,MICHAEL O STINKY BROWN EYE

EPASS TELLS EVERYON THERE FUCKED

WEBMASTERS GET OWNED BY EPASSPORTE

I FEEL BAD THIS HAPPEND AND GO BACK TO BEING A NOBODY ON GFY

The End !
/

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-23-2010, 07:22 PM

You wasted al that time to write this shit?

marketsmart · 09-23-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

You wasted al that time to write this shit?

it took less than 5 minutes...

i am a tremendous word smith...

btw, did you even read it jackhole?

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Agent 488 · 09-23-2010, 07:24 PM

the movie and the epass crash have to be tied somehow. too much coincidence.

Caligari · 09-23-2010, 07:27 PM

Quote:

I truly believe that this whole mess is a result of one persons ego and bad business decisions that used money that didnt belong to them..

its a very chilling statement because i thought about it jokingly in my mind. what if this massive flop leads to epass shutting down and screwing everyone because they actually did use account holders' money to finance the thing.
of course that's not directly true, but close enough.
the idea that it has more or less happened is surreal.

Firestarter30 · 09-23-2010, 07:28 PM

marketsmart i agree with your scenario, it makes perfect sense...

harvey · 09-23-2010, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

Epassporte was a bank in Curacao...

That bank was creating loans, like all banks do, but these loans were being given to Chris to make movies. maybe their were loans made on other things that i am unaware of as well, but i think this will come out sooner or later...

It seemed like a safe play because these movies were expected to make money, like Middle Men.

St Kitts Bank allowed a certain % to be short of what epass users had on their epass virtual cards or maybe they just required that the amount available via virtual cards was available in the epass account at St Kitts...

Either Visa tightened their regulations on what % (maybe it was 100% all the time) was allowed or St Kitts wanted the amount available via virtual cards to be in the epass account at St Kitts.

They requested that epass transfer additional funds into St Kitts which epass did not comply with either out of lack to be able to do so or unwillingness to do so (I dont think this was an issue of requiring documents on all cardholders, although it could be and epass was unable to meet these demands in a timely manner because they have limited staff and many account holders)..

Middle Men was a total flop and the money was not available to pay the loan back..

When St Kitts asked Visa to shut off the virtual cards, that created panic with companies that funded the epass bank in Curacao and companies stopped sending in wires..

This stopped the float to the epass bank in Curacao and once again epass was unable to send money to meet the % demands of St Kitts Bank..

I think the scenario is a lot more complex, but I think this scenario makes the most sense..

Why else would St Kitts Bank put a freeze on the funds in the virtual accounts and why would epass issue a statement telling virtual accounts to contact the bank directly...

It's no secret how much money is in a persons virtual account. It's not like you can go to an ATM and withdraw $1000 if you only have $500 available..

The bank knows exactly how much money a person has in their account at any given time and with the ATM withdrawal feature frozen, there should be now issue figuring out what is in each account holders account. just like when a person closes an account at a regular bank, the bank gives you your entire account balance at the time of account closure...

IMHO the money was frozen the minute St Kitts Bank cut off the ability to use the Visa card..

This was something that epass knew and chose not to divulge because they were trying to get the matter resolved..

Now that epass has realized that there is nothing they can to resolve the issue, they are blaming St Kitts Bank..

I dont think the money in peoples virtual accounts is lost, but I think it will be very challenging for account holders to get the money back..

I truly believe that this whole mess is a result of one persons ego and bad business decisions that used money that didnt belong to them..

Although this is entirely based on my opinion and not on any verifiable facts, i am left with this conclusion as the only one that makes any sense..

I started to migrate away from epass the minute i found out that they were involved in online gaming..

I based this decision on the fact that anyone that would put my money at risk had no business being in control of my money..

I feel for the people that counted on epass being a safe way to keep their money..

I wish you all the best of luck in getting your money back...

Again, this post is based on my opinion and my opinion only and is not based on any verifiable facts, but I think this post makes the most sense...

In the end, you can formulate your own opinion....

I am sure all the facts will be made public at some point...

.

although there might be something of this, you're wrong in the big picture. For starters, just to be allowed to work, Epass has to had a minimum reserve of $500,000 per account (assuming they had more than one) and that reserve couldn't be lower for periods higher than 24 hours.

Mutt · 09-23-2010, 07:35 PM

no bank would be stupid enough to loan money to anybody without a track record in the movie business to go make feature films - the number of theatrical films released each year that turn a profit are a small minority. it's one of the riskiest businesses there is.

well maybe a shady bank on a sleepy carribean island might

marketsmart · 09-23-2010, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

no bank would be stupid enough to loan money to anybody without a track record in the movie business to go make feature films - the number of theatrical films released each year that turn a profit are a small minority. it's one of the riskiest businesses there is.

well maybe a shady bank on a sleepy carribean island might

epass was a bank.. in Curacao at least...

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BIGTYMER · 09-23-2010, 07:43 PM

I thought it was a good read. Thanks

mrsmut · 09-23-2010, 07:44 PM

I partially agree with you

Tha part about SKNA account having less money than needed to fund all cards seems reasonable

Ethersync · 09-23-2010, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

no bank would be stupid enough to loan money to anybody without a track record in the movie business to go make feature films - the number of theatrical films released each year that turn a profit are a small minority. it's one of the riskiest businesses there is.

well maybe a shady bank on a sleepy carribean island might

ePassporte setup their own bank in Curacao. That is where wire loads have been sent lately and presumably where wallet money is stored.

sologirlcontent · 09-23-2010, 07:54 PM

and if the epass "bank" worked like US banks..every dollar deposited can have money loaned out at 9 times the worth of the dollars in the account. It's alot of fake cyber money floating around..the crash happens when those cyber dollars don't get paid back in a timely fashion. Alot of you guys that say epass or mallick was soo rich, this couldn't possibly be the case. We honestly don't know how cash poor the company or he really was.A wise Hollywood producer once told me..NEVER use your own money to finance anything, always use other people's money..this producer created E! network..so I listen to him even today).Blockbuster Has 1 billion in cash assets, but has $1.4 billion in over due bills..that is a problem. Now epass has done something to stop the flow of money and as each week goes by this company gets more weaker by the second and as each remaining wire goes out, it cripples the structure of the company. You are fooling yourselves if you think epass can survive this. 20 days is a long time..it will be deadly in 30 days..after the 30th day ..that baby is gone with the wind.

09-23-2010, 07:21 PM	#1
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	My Speculation About Epassporte... Epassporte was a bank in Curacao... That bank was creating loans, like all banks do, but these loans were being given to Chris to make movies. maybe their were loans made on other things that i am unaware of as well, but i think this will come out sooner or later... It seemed like a safe play because these movies were expected to make money, like Middle Men. St Kitts Bank allowed a certain % to be short of what epass users had on their epass virtual cards or maybe they just required that the amount available via virtual cards was available in the epass account at St Kitts... Either Visa tightened their regulations on what % (maybe it was 100% all the time) was allowed or St Kitts wanted the amount available via virtual cards to be in the epass account at St Kitts. They requested that epass transfer additional funds into St Kitts which epass did not comply with either out of lack to be able to do so or unwillingness to do so (I dont think this was an issue of requiring documents on all cardholders, although it could be and epass was unable to meet these demands in a timely manner because they have limited staff and many account holders).. Middle Men was a total flop and the money was not available to pay the loan back.. When St Kitts asked Visa to shut off the virtual cards, that created panic with companies that funded the epass bank in Curacao and companies stopped sending in wires.. This stopped the float to the epass bank in Curacao and once again epass was unable to send money to meet the % demands of St Kitts Bank.. I think the scenario is a lot more complex, but I think this scenario makes the most sense.. Why else would St Kitts Bank put a freeze on the funds in the virtual accounts and why would epass issue a statement telling virtual accounts to contact the bank directly... It's no secret how much money is in a persons virtual account. It's not like you can go to an ATM and withdraw $1000 if you only have $500 available.. The bank knows exactly how much money a person has in their account at any given time and with the ATM withdrawal feature frozen, there should be now issue figuring out what is in each account holders account. just like when a person closes an account at a regular bank, the bank gives you your entire account balance at the time of account closure... IMHO the money was frozen the minute St Kitts Bank cut off the ability to use the Visa card.. This was something that epass knew and chose not to divulge because they were trying to get the matter resolved.. Now that epass has realized that there is nothing they can to resolve the issue, they are blaming St Kitts Bank.. I dont think the money in peoples virtual accounts is lost, but I think it will be very challenging for account holders to get the money back.. I truly believe that this whole mess is a result of one persons ego and bad business decisions that used money that didnt belong to them.. Although this is entirely based on my opinion and not on any verifiable facts, i am left with this conclusion as the only one that makes any sense.. I started to migrate away from epass the minute i found out that they were involved in online gaming.. I based this decision on the fact that anyone that would put my money at risk had no business being in control of my money.. I feel for the people that counted on epass being a safe way to keep their money.. I wish you all the best of luck in getting your money back... Again, this post is based on my opinion and my opinion only and is not based on any verifiable facts, but I think this post makes the most sense... In the end, you can formulate your own opinion.... I am sure all the facts will be made public at some point... .

09-23-2010, 07:35 PM	#9
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	no bank would be stupid enough to loan money to anybody without a track record in the movie business to go make feature films - the number of theatrical films released each year that turn a profit are a small minority. it's one of the riskiest businesses there is. well maybe a shady bank on a sleepy carribean island might __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-23-2010, 07:22 PM	#2
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	Cliff Notes: EPASSPORTE FUCKING SCAMMED ME FOR 5k I TRIED TO WARN WEBMASTERS FOR 3 YEARS THAT THEY RUN A SHIT OPERATION AND HAVE NO PROBLEM LEAVING ACCOUNT HOLDER IN THE DUMPSTER I TELL GFY 3 MONTS AGO THAT EPASS IS FUCKED AND GET THERE MONEY OUT I ALMOST GET BANNED THEY TAKE WEBMASTERS MONEY I TRIED TO TELL WEBMASTERS THERE MONEY WAS GONE N TO GO TO ST KITTS NOT MANY LISTNED ...MANY LOST MONEY..MANY LOOKED LIKE FOOLS KISSING EPASS ,CHRIS MALLICk,MICHAEL O STINKY BROWN EYE EPASS TELLS EVERYON THERE FUCKED WEBMASTERS GET OWNED BY EPASSPORTE I FEEL BAD THIS HAPPEND AND GO BACK TO BEING A NOBODY ON GFY The End ! /

09-23-2010, 07:22 PM	#3
Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexifornia Posts: 970	You wasted al that time to write this shit?

09-23-2010, 07:24 PM	#5
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	the movie and the epass crash have to be tied somehow. too much coincidence.

09-23-2010, 07:28 PM	#7
Firestarter30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The Land Of Gods Posts: 167	marketsmart i agree with your scenario, it makes perfect sense...

09-23-2010, 07:43 PM	#11
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	I thought it was a good read. Thanks

09-23-2010, 07:44 PM	#12
mrsmut Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 121	I partially agree with you Tha part about SKNA account having less money than needed to fund all cards seems reasonable

09-23-2010, 07:54 PM	#14
sologirlcontent So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,617	and if the epass "bank" worked like US banks..every dollar deposited can have money loaned out at 9 times the worth of the dollars in the account. It's alot of fake cyber money floating around..the crash happens when those cyber dollars don't get paid back in a timely fashion. Alot of you guys that say epass or mallick was soo rich, this couldn't possibly be the case. We honestly don't know how cash poor the company or he really was.A wise Hollywood producer once told me..NEVER use your own money to finance anything, always use other people's money..this producer created E! network..so I listen to him even today).Blockbuster Has 1 billion in cash assets, but has $1.4 billion in over due bills..that is a problem. Now epass has done something to stop the flow of money and as each week goes by this company gets more weaker by the second and as each remaining wire goes out, it cripples the structure of the company. You are fooling yourselves if you think epass can survive this. 20 days is a long time..it will be deadly in 30 days..after the 30th day ..that baby is gone with the wind.