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dyna mo · 10-28-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Ah, the BARF diet. I've been reading about it since the mid 90's - still haven't done it. I'm lazy ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_feeding

lolz, i thought you were being funny till i got to the BARF part in that wiki!

Peaches · 10-28-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

lolz, i thought you were being funny till i got to the BARF part in that wiki!

BARF was all anyone called it then Remember I was dealing with pugs so it wasn't exactly like we were trying to get them out hunting and running and such. Just a little more effort to get back on the sofa after eating

Mine have been on NutroMax for years. Works for me but I know pug people who swear BARF

I think bottom line you have to stick with and follow the precautions. You can't get sloppy.

BTW, I'm ordering more stuff in the next few days. Things are working great "there" so I won't be eating it as fast as I should. I do love it!

tony286 · 10-29-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's great to hear Tony! what's the latest on the weight loss, time for another nick update?

I going to wait for a nick change again.lol Im at 278 lbs now , 12 lbs away from 200 lbs lost. Im going to order a month of Take Charge today to help with the 12 lb run because I would like to hit it the end of Nov.Also its a tasty break from supreme protein bars which were a staple since I started

I would love to do Barf with my dogs but with the traveling we do for shoots. I dont see how we can do that.

dyna mo · 10-29-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

BARF was all anyone called it then Remember I was dealing with pugs so it wasn't exactly like we were trying to get them out hunting and running and such. Just a little more effort to get back on the sofa after eating

Mine have been on NutroMax for years. Works for me but I know pug people who swear BARF

I think bottom line you have to stick with and follow the precautions. You can't get sloppy.

BTW, I'm ordering more stuff in the next few days. Things are working great "there" so I won't be eating it as fast as I should. I do love it!

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Originally Posted by tony286

I going to wait for a nick change again.lol Im at 278 lbs now , 12 lbs away from 200 lbs lost. Im going to order a month of Take Charge today to help with the 12 lb run because I would like to hit it the end of Nov.Also its a tasty break from supreme protein bars which were a staple since I started

I would love to do Barf with my dogs but with the traveling we do for shoots. I dont see how we can do that.

that's great to hear, thank you!

PR_Glen · 10-29-2010, 08:57 AM

There are specialty bowls you can buy that are designed to help them slow down their eating, especially with kibble because they can get bloated fast when throwing it down their throats that quickly, but my dog expert go to says that she just adds water to their bowls and it does the same thing. Slows down there gobbling and helps them avoid the bloating.

As for what people feed their dogs I was amazed that most people feed their dogs FAR too much food. My friend is a breeder and a trainer and has two golden labs of her own and they only eat 2 cups of kibble a day, once in the morning, once in the evening and thats it. These dogs are HUGE too (meaning healthy and muscly). Cheaper dog foods you have to feed them more because they are not getting enough out of them. Go with the good stuff and you will not have to use as much and you will save money over all even because of that.

My friend alternates between Acana Grain Free and Orijen, all canadian made so not sure if they have the equivalent where you are at, but heres the website anyway.

http://www.championpetfoods.com/

DaCaptain · 10-29-2010, 09:51 AM

I've read that dogs need vegetables if you have them on a raw meat diet....reason being, wild dogs eat the stomachs and intestines of their kills. The stomach and intestines usually have plants in different stages of digestion. Plus wild dogs also do munch on some plants. Hence, an all meat diet in the confines of a back yard will not give them all of the nutrition that they need.

DaCaptain · 10-29-2010, 09:54 AM

My problem with my dogs has always been that they are thin. Of course, with me working out of the house I spend alot of time with them. We go for walks and they get to run on these. We probably cover 15 to 20 miles per week. Then there's all the playing time in the yard, chasing balls, tugging with pull toys, etc. I tried blackwood 7000 and it didn't even work. My adult dog is a decent sized German Shepherd and the vet says he's built like a professional athlete. At his height he should be around 85 pounds, but he stays in the 60 to 70 pound range.

Elli · 10-29-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

There are specialty bowls you can buy that are designed to help them slow down their eating, especially with kibble because they can get bloated fast when throwing it down their throats that quickly, but my dog expert go to says that she just adds water to their bowls and it does the same thing. Slows down there gobbling and helps them avoid the bloating.

As for what people feed their dogs I was amazed that most people feed their dogs FAR too much food. My friend is a breeder and a trainer and has two golden labs of her own and they only eat 2 cups of kibble a day, once in the morning, once in the evening and thats it. These dogs are HUGE too (meaning healthy and muscly). Cheaper dog foods you have to feed them more because they are not getting enough out of them. Go with the good stuff and you will not have to use as much and you will save money over all even because of that.

My friend alternates between Acana Grain Free and Orijen, all canadian made so not sure if they have the equivalent where you are at, but heres the website anyway.

http://www.championpetfoods.com/

I agree, but it depends a lot on how well the food is digested, too. My 15lb rat terrier eats two meals of 6oz each a day. More on active days, less on lazy days. She's pretty good about only eating when she's hungry.

Elli · 10-29-2010, 02:09 PM

Dyna Mo, you can find an easy peasy spreadsheet in the first post here that does all the weight/calorie calculations for you:
http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Fo.../thread/491589

Careful, she's a killer!!

dyna mo · 10-29-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli

Dyna Mo, you can find an easy peasy spreadsheet in the first post here that does all the weight/calorie calculations for you:
http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Fo.../thread/491589

Careful, she's a killer!!

super, thank you! checking it out now.

cute doggie too!!!!1

thx for the infos too, dacaptain and Glen.

bronco67 · 10-29-2010, 02:15 PM

Whats the price like, compared to normal dog food? I use BliJac, and its like 25 bucks for a 15 pound bag.

pornguy · 10-29-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Buddy was born in a barn in the middle of Nowhere, Indiana. It was survival of the fittest straight from the gate for him. He had killed and eaten his first bunny before I even had a chance to get him home to SoCal.

Now, he just seems to kill rodents but prefers the food I give him for actual consumption.

Depending on the type of dog he is, he is most likely giving you gifts thanking you for the food. Its his work for pay.

One of mine will kill anything that moves. Dead bird a few days ago. dead possum a few before that, He Destroyed a Tarantula one night.

Elli · 10-29-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Whats the price like, compared to normal dog food? I use BliJac, and its like 25 bucks for a 15 pound bag.

I go to Surrey Meat Packers. They have ground meat with bone in (and even meat with veggie in too). I get 50lb freezer packs of bone-in ground chicken, frozen into 1lb bricks, for $1.50 / lb. Eggs, yogurt, veggie, you should have around anyway.

Liver and kidney you can usually get fairly cheap from a regular supermarket BUT cruise the butcher shops because they have offcuts often. Trimmings from your own food are obviously free (chicken backs & necks, etc)

If you want to go meat-based kibble food like Wellness, Blue Buffalo, or Orijen, then the prices can go up rapidly.

Honez · 10-29-2010, 05:33 PM

I jumped on the bandwagon too

My dog and one of my cats are getting the Natures Variety raw now. My other cat is a food snob and won't eat it

Buster, my pooch, does the same thing with the 1.5 second scarfing down of his meals.

bronco67 · 10-30-2010, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Honez

I jumped on the bandwagon too

My dog and one of my cats are getting the Natures Variety raw now. My other cat is a food snob and won't eat it

Buster, my pooch, does the same thing with the 1.5 second scarfing down of his meals.

I use the Nature's Variety as a topping to his regular food, and its great for training because he loves it so much. But its too expensive to use it exclusively as a meal. Is that the same type of stuff as Primal?

u-Bob · 10-30-2010, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

WTF! looks like some kind of demon....

amateurbfs · 10-30-2010, 07:42 AM

My dog has eaten countless raw chicken bones. Never had a problem, my whole family thinks I am putting it in danger lol.

Honez · 10-30-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I use the Nature's Variety as a topping to his regular food, and its great for training because he loves it so much. But its too expensive to use it exclusively as a meal. Is that the same type of stuff as Primal?

Same thing as Primal.

I was feeding my animals that crap from the vet which was not exactly cheap so switching over to the Natures Variety really isn't much more expensive per month for me.

I tell ya what though, it has only been a couple of weeks but, I am already seeing some changes. My cat used to have dandruff and shed like crazy. Her dandruff is gone and today when I brushed her, I hardly got anything off of her. My dog doesn't smell like 'dog' so much either.

Elli · 10-30-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Honez

Same thing as Primal.

I was feeding my animals that crap from the vet which was not exactly cheap so switching over to the Natures Variety really isn't much more expensive per month for me.

I tell ya what though, it has only been a couple of weeks but, I am already seeing some changes. My cat used to have dandruff and shed like crazy. Her dandruff is gone and today when I brushed her, I hardly got anything off of her. My dog doesn't smell like 'dog' so much either.

They should be having smaller poops, too

Less filler in the food and all that jazz. I find the smell and the lesser poops are awesome benefits lol

10-29-2010, 08:57 AM	#55
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	There are specialty bowls you can buy that are designed to help them slow down their eating, especially with kibble because they can get bloated fast when throwing it down their throats that quickly, but my dog expert go to says that she just adds water to their bowls and it does the same thing. Slows down there gobbling and helps them avoid the bloating. As for what people feed their dogs I was amazed that most people feed their dogs FAR too much food. My friend is a breeder and a trainer and has two golden labs of her own and they only eat 2 cups of kibble a day, once in the morning, once in the evening and thats it. These dogs are HUGE too (meaning healthy and muscly). Cheaper dog foods you have to feed them more because they are not getting enough out of them. Go with the good stuff and you will not have to use as much and you will save money over all even because of that. My friend alternates between Acana Grain Free and Orijen, all canadian made so not sure if they have the equivalent where you are at, but heres the website anyway. http://www.championpetfoods.com/ __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

10-29-2010, 09:51 AM	#56
DaCaptain Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the South. Posts: 797	I've read that dogs need vegetables if you have them on a raw meat diet....reason being, wild dogs eat the stomachs and intestines of their kills. The stomach and intestines usually have plants in different stages of digestion. Plus wild dogs also do munch on some plants. Hence, an all meat diet in the confines of a back yard will not give them all of the nutrition that they need. __________________ Email me at jeff at rouge dot net

10-29-2010, 09:54 AM	#57
DaCaptain Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the South. Posts: 797	My problem with my dogs has always been that they are thin. Of course, with me working out of the house I spend alot of time with them. We go for walks and they get to run on these. We probably cover 15 to 20 miles per week. Then there's all the playing time in the yard, chasing balls, tugging with pull toys, etc. I tried blackwood 7000 and it didn't even work. My adult dog is a decent sized German Shepherd and the vet says he's built like a professional athlete. At his height he should be around 85 pounds, but he stays in the 60 to 70 pound range. __________________ Email me at jeff at rouge dot net

10-29-2010, 02:09 PM	#59
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Dyna Mo, you can find an easy peasy spreadsheet in the first post here that does all the weight/calorie calculations for you: http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Fo.../thread/491589 Careful, she's a killer!! __________________ email: [email protected] Last edited by Elli; 10-29-2010 at 02:11 PM..

10-29-2010, 02:15 PM	#61
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Whats the price like, compared to normal dog food? I use BliJac, and its like 25 bucks for a 15 pound bag. __________________

10-29-2010, 05:33 PM	#64
Honez Confirmed Brat Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 6,636	I jumped on the bandwagon too My dog and one of my cats are getting the Natures Variety raw now. My other cat is a food snob and won't eat it Buster, my pooch, does the same thing with the 1.5 second scarfing down of his meals. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Hone at YourPaysitePartner dot Com Skype - Stressmonkey

10-30-2010, 07:42 AM	#67
amateurbfs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,316	My dog has eaten countless raw chicken bones. Never had a problem, my whole family thinks I am putting it in danger lol. __________________