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dyna mo 05-17-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271611)
So in 2016...those were the numbers. After 8 years of the Obama Administration.
That is why Trump won.

there's much research done on why Trump won, some good books.

I was pointing out that there are new ways to show a more comprehensive view on the economy. it's not as simple as the unemployment rate for instance, not saying you over simplify.

In fact, two-thirds of all jobs in the country are low-paying at less than $20 an hour or $40,000 a year, if full time.

I don't discount the trump effect on the stock market and consequently, the economy so far being positive.

Robbie 05-17-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22271621)
there's much research done on why Trump won, some good books.

I was pointing out that there are new ways to show a more comprehensive view on the economy. it's not as simple as the unemployment rate for instance, not saying you over simplify.

In fact, two-thirds of all jobs in the country are low-paying at less than $20 an hour or $40,000 a year, if full time.

I don't discount the trump effect on the stock market and consequently, the economy so far being positive.

Agreed...many times people have been "underemployed" during the last 10 years after the economy crashed.

The good news is that it appears that companies are repatriating capital back into the U.S. thanks to the reduction of Corporate tax rate and bringing REAL jobs back with them.

It just seems crazy to me that many people put their hatred of Trump and their stupid political ideologies ahead of the country. They are actually cheering for the President to FAIL and our country to fail. :(

Bladewire 05-17-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271618)
EVERY prediction you made about Trump has been 100% wrong!!!

Why are you lying?

It's one thing for you to stick up for a billionaire that has made his money fucking over the little guy & breaking the law. Its another thing for you to blatantly lie about the people who've been right at every turn predicting where thinks would go with the liar in chief.

TЯump is a liar = True

TЯump is a scammer = True

TЯump is a racist = True

TЯump is out for himself = True

TЯump thinks he's above the law = True

TЯump has broken the law since being in office = True

The list goes on in many are have predicted these things and they were all right.

You , on the other hand, declared world Peace thanks to TЯump, before he ever began talks with North Korea.

You thought TЯump should get a Nobel Peace Prize. , before ever speaking to North Korea.

You are a delusional cocksucker whos life is WORSE under TЯump , because you work in the adult industry, but you're such a cock sucking cuc of trunk that you won't admit that's so stat in Festa have impacted your life negatively, or net neutrality, the list goes on.

dyna mo 05-17-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271625)
Agreed...many times people have been "underemployed" during the last 10 years after the economy crashed.

The good news is that it appears that companies are repatriating capital back into the U.S. thanks to the reduction of Corporate tax rate and bringing REAL jobs back with them.

It just seems crazy to me that many people put their hatred of Trump and their stupid political ideologies ahead of the country. They are actually cheering for the President to FAIL and our country to fail. :(

The media is responsible for a lot of that, as you pointed out. I do think trump plays into that though. He does run his operation like a reality show and I think even told much of his staff to look at every day as an episode in a reality TV show, he uses the media to broadcast the episodes. Like Rudy, he calls Rudy his "TV lawyer". It was Rudy's job to get in front of the stormy payout lie on the talk shows.

anyway, there's more to all of that, you know.

TheSquealer 05-17-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22271636)
The media is responsible for a lot of that, as you pointed out. I do think trump plays into that though. He does run his operation like a reality show and I think even told much of his staff to look at every day as an episode in a reality TV show, he uses the media to broadcast the episodes. Like Rudy, he calls Rudy his "TV lawyer". It was Rudy's job to get in front of the stormy payout lie on the talk shows.

anyway, there's more to all of that, you know.

I agree... he's basically the dickhead that doesn't care, flipping the pretty mean chicks shit in high school.... and they're at a complete loss to deal with it because it's never happened before and all they can do is be petty and mean back. Not very Presidential... but I expect a LOT more from the media as well.

dyna mo 05-17-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271640)
I agree... he's basically the dickhead that doesn't care flipping the pretty mean chicks shit.

yeah, add in the chaos theory approach and I can understand how it's disconcerting to many people. I know it's not my style but I also know in reality, he's just the dang president is all. back to work.

the other thing is about the stormy thing. that's the one lie I give all men a free pass on. Of course I did not bang that hooker.

TheSquealer 05-17-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22271644)

the other thing is about the stormy thing. that's the one lie I give all men a free pass on. Of course I did not bang that hooker.

Well, to be completely fair, ALL Democrats certainly gave Bill a pass. He lied under oath, to Congress (and as an attorney) and we were constantly reminded that "it was just a blowjob" WHILE he was President, which took place IN the Oval Office.

But yeah, Trump fucked a whore eons ago, so let's dig into that instead of focus on the nation and what needs to get done.

TheSquealer 05-17-2018 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271615)
I agree 100%.

They used to do the same thing with Bush. They would only use the most unflattering "Evil" looking pics they could find.
And every Obama pic was..."heroic" looking.

But they've jumped far beyond that subliminal stuff now.


dyna mo 05-17-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271625)

It just seems crazy to me that many people put their hatred of Trump and their stupid political ideologies ahead of the country. They are actually cheering for the President to FAIL and our country to fail. :(

There are a lot of people pouring fuel on the fire. I'm convinced we can completely absolutely disagree and still find somewhere in the middle that's acceptable and move on. A lot of us have. We can disagree and not be disagreeable.

I think it's going to take a few more years, it's not going to happen until after this investigation. It all has to start with Congress IMO, when our government figures out how to get along, the populace seems to do so as well.

candyflip 05-17-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271553)
Mark...you really, really need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC.

I watch all the news. And CNN is like watching another world that doesn't exist.
They MIGHT briefly talk about the real news for a minute or so...and then they do stupid shit like have Anderson Cooper spending his entire "talk show" with Stormy Daniels lawyer and the two of them making hopeful (for them) assumptions and theories about how horrible Trump is.

Dude...the country is doing GREAT right now.
Black unemployment at the lowest in HISTORY. Latin unemployment at historic lows. Women unemployment at historic lows.
Companies bringing back money to the U.S. (from overseas). Trade deals being straightened out.

I can keep on going...
The news programs that you are watching and getting your info from are biased and they HATE Trump.

But for working men and women of the United States? They see their lives getting better every day.

As for Mueller's "investigation"?
That whole thing is backfiring. And with the Inspector General's report about to come out there is going to be a revealing of just how far the Obama Administration went with the FBI and Justice Dept. to try and make Hillary the President and destroy Trump.

What they did is the biggest threat to Democracy in the history of our country.

And I know that CNN is NOT covering it. On purpose.
I watch their "hosts" and MSNBC's "hosts" claim that this is all the Republicans trying to "discredit" Mueller's "investigation".
Don't you find it the least bit odd that they seem to have ZERO curiosity about the charges being leveled against Comey, Brennan, and Loretta Lynch?
Don't you find it appalling that the FBI put a "Spy" in the Trump campaign? (that was revealed yesterday by the NY Times...who hate Trump)

This is the kind of third world corruption that is unacceptable.

Trump is not only going to last the year (as I've watched Trump-haters on here claim he wouldn't run, wouldn't win, wouldn't last the FIRST year...and now you are pondering if he will last this year)...but he is going to go down in history as one of the greatest President's ever.

You don't know that...because you are processing the information that is being given to you by the mainstream media.

For once listen to me...they are NOT telling you the truth and are NOT giving you the full picture.
They are doing everything they can to destroy our President.

It's shameful what the media is doing.

What are you, some alt-right fake nick or something? :winkwink:

This about sums it up. Well, this and what TheSquealer wrote above.

Common sense and sound logic still exist.

candyflip 05-17-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22271631)
Why are you lying?

It's one thing for you to stick up for a billionaire that has made his money fucking over the little guy & breaking the law. Its another thing for you to blatantly lie about the people who've been right at every turn predicting where thinks would go with the liar in chief.

TЯump is a liar = True

TЯump is a scammer = True

TЯump is a racist = True

TЯump is out for himself = True

TЯump thinks he's above the law = True

TЯump has broken the law since being in office = True

The list goes on in many are have predicted these things and they were all right.

You , on the other hand, declared world Peace thanks to TЯump, before he ever began talks with North Korea.

You thought TЯump should get a Nobel Peace Prize. , before ever speaking to North Korea.

You are a delusional cocksucker whos life is WORSE under TЯump , because you work in the adult industry, but you're such a cock sucking cuc of trunk that you won't admit that's so stat in Festa have impacted your life negatively, or net neutrality, the list goes on.

Too much twink cock has gone to your head. You are beyond delusional.

You really should seek help.

TheSquealer 05-17-2018 07:08 PM

https://i.imgur.com/47564NM.png

TheSquealer 05-17-2018 07:10 PM

The media in this country is officially worse than Russian news.. and Liberals are right there, continually cheering on fake narratives and ignoring facts.

onwebcam 05-17-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271647)

Did you see where Thomas Wictor just outed a Soros employee via one of Candace's posts.. Pretty funny https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/sta...69925180817408

Bladewire 05-17-2018 07:37 PM


TheSquealer 05-17-2018 07:38 PM

They're not sending their best.

Looks like Bladeliar needs a safe space.

The Porn Nerd 05-17-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271601)
Said every Democrat... EVER since the Primaries. ;)

still love ya though.

Love ya too but I'm not a Democrat, sorry. :)


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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271614)
The "Truth" is in what is actually happening. Do you DENY the stats?
Don't be an idiot. Open your eyes.
As for Fox News...they pretty much are the ONLY ones reporting the news anymore.

Don't believe it?
That's because you don't watch anything...which makes you ignorant on the subject of Fox News.

Robbie this is sad man. You sound brain washed. FOX is the only news source?

Dude FOX is "mainstream media", FOX is just as corrupt and one sided as your hated CNN and MSNBC. The fact that you (and millions of others sadly) cannot see this is the problem. BOTH sides are manipulating people for their own propaganda purposes. To believe ANY of it, from FOX or anyone else, is the #1 problem. The populace has been divided and conquered.

And I am a published journalist who wrote for New York Magazine, Newsweek and other outlets. I have a legal NYC journalism badge and code that grants me access to crime scenes, live news feeds and "raw" reportage as part of my duties as, you know, an actual accredited journalist with a badge and everything. So you have no idea what I watch or read but I absolutely positively guarantee it's a more reliable source than news spewed out on television for God's sake. LOL In other words: TV news (FOX, CNN, MSNBC) is for the idiot masses.

slapass 05-17-2018 08:13 PM

And the birther thing? Do we ignore that? Lots of people marching with nazis are nice people. Come on. Throwing someone else’s cash to look good doesn’t count in anyone’s book. We have seen how his “charity”works. His biggest aide was the voice for the Alt Right. Did he really not know that? Infowars? The list is huge. His full page ad about wilding? He still thinks he was right or said he was. The guy is a shit storm. I understand that some stuff is working out. I get that he does so much that some sticks. Random shit sticks. Not thought out shit.

BaldBastard 05-17-2018 08:31 PM

Fox news is the political propaganda arm of Rupert Murdoch, and always has been.

You can't deny that in anyway, Murdoch started with his political agenda here in Aus, took it to the UK and is now running America because of it.

Trump is talking to Murdoch weekly, and Murdoch also mentors Jared Kushner..

https://www.smh.com.au/world/rupert-...24-h09sc2.html

Nothing will happen until Murdoch either dies or goes sour on Trump.

Here in Australia, on Fox Cable... Fox News USA is channel 604 and listed in the entertainment section... At direct request of Murdoch.

Bladewire 05-17-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22271692)
And the birther thing? Do we ignore that? Lots of people marching with nazis are nice people. Come on. Throwing someone else’s cash to look good doesn’t count in anyone’s book. We have seen how his “charity”works. His biggest aide was the voice for the Alt Right. Did he really not know that? Infowars? The list is huge. His full page ad about wilding? He still thinks he was right or said he was. The guy is a shit storm. I understand that some stuff is working out. I get that he does so much that some sticks. Random shit sticks. Not thought out shit.

No facts about TЯump matter to the designated GFY alt-right hate nic troll.

You post that TЯump is fat... they'll disagree

You post that TЯump has lied... they'll disagree

You post that TЯump has broken the law... they'll disagree ( despite the fact Trump is paid multiple fines in the past for breaking the law )

The list goes on. OH! And his backup is "so everyone else FILL IN THE BLANK doesn't make TЯump anything special for doing it"

Trump trolls take accountability for nothing and take credit for anything anyone anywhere foes good while TЯump golfs and plays POTUS in his dpare time.

TheSquealer 05-17-2018 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22271692)
And the birther thing? Do we ignore that? Lots of people marching with nazis are nice people. Come on. Throwing someone else’s cash to look good doesn’t count in anyone’s book. We have seen how his “charity”works. His biggest aide was the voice for the Alt Right. Did he really not know that? Infowars? The list is huge. His full page ad about wilding? He still thinks he was right or said he was. The guy is a shit storm. I understand that some stuff is working out. I get that he does so much that some sticks. Random shit sticks. Not thought out shit.

He's a douche. But my point in EVERYTHING is that you guys just can't accept that he's President and fully ignore WHY he's President. You have completely lost sight of what people voted for and why, and why he is now President.

So whats the plan? Obstruct nominations and talk shit for 8 years? Is that how Democrats are going to win future elections?

This is what is deeply disturbing to me.. Politics used to be a competition of left/right ideas. Those ideas that won were usually very similar with only a few concessions. Now the nation and voters are an afterthought. it's just a bunch of schoolyard children acting like assholes with an equally fucked up media cheering them on,... or in most cases starting shit where there is none just to keep it all going and sell ads.

Where are the Democrat plans? Why aren't they crushing an unintelligent moron with better ideas that the vast majority of the public can get behind? Shouldn't be too hard right???

Where are the Democrats talking about "we don't have time for bickering, we need to work on the nation?". All Democrats are doing in an era where a fat orange turd is handing them ammo every single day is name calling and hoping for scandals... not showing a path forward, for the future to appeal to voters. I honestly Democrats will lose the next election because of this behavior. Just as right now, the lowest show on Fox gets murdered by the highest rated show on CNN. The media and Democrats are driving themselves right off a cliff.

I mean seriously... when you're losing the black vote to Trump, clearly the party has a lot of big problems.

kane 05-17-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271701)
He's a douche. But my point in EVERYTHING is that you guys just can't accept that he's President and fully ignore WHY he's President. You have completely lost sight of what people voted for and why, and why he is now President.

So whats the plan? Obstruct nominations and talk shit for 8 years? Is that how Democrats are going to win future elections?

This is what is deeply disturbing to me.. Politics used to be a competition of left/right ideas. Those ideas that won were usually very similar with only a few concessions. Now the nation and voters are an afterthought. it's just a bunch of schoolyard children acting like assholes with an equally fucked up media cheering them on,... or in most cases starting shit where there is none just to keep it all going and sell ads.

Where are the Democrat plans? Why aren't they crushing an unintelligent moron with better ideas that the vast majority of the public can get behind? Shouldn't be too hard right???

Where are the Democrats talking about "we don't have time for bickering, we need to work on the nation?". All Democrats are doing in an era where a fat orange turd is handing them ammo every single day is name calling and hoping for scandals... not showing a path forward, for the future to appeal to voters. I honestly Democrats will lose the next election because of this behavior. Just as right now, the lowest show on Fox gets murdered by the highest rated show on CNN. The media and Democrats are driving themselves right off a cliff.

I mean seriously... when you're losing the black vote to Trump, clearly the party has a lot of big problems.

Three quick things.

1. Democrats are following the blueprint laid out by Republicans with Obama. Say no to everything, obstruct, block, and complain. It worked for them. I don't condone it, but it is what is happening.

2. We are starting to see Democrats making their moves. This weeks' net neutrality vote is a big thing for them. When the midterms come around later this year they will have most of the Republicans on record as voting against it. Democrats need young voters to turn out and this is an issue that they are strongly interested in.

3. The Democrats didn't lose the black vote to Trump. Trump got 8% of the black vote.

I would love to see the sides work together like they did not too long ago, but that will take both sides willing to do this. It seems like you would like the same thing, but you also seem to lay all the blame at the foot of the Democrats when this is very much a two way street.

ilnjscb 05-17-2018 09:50 PM

Why would he resign? He has more power over any mechanism of justice as president.
He can't be subpoenaed or indicted without supreme court imprimatur. Bill Clinton didn't resign, neither will Trump.
He also won't be removed. He may be impeached, as Clinton was, if democrats take the house.
Go back and look at my posts. I've told you this from the start.

2MuchMark 05-17-2018 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271514)

Have you been to https://blacksfortrump2020.com/ ?

2MuchMark 05-17-2018 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22271528)
my gosh mark, I never suggested you should wish death on trump.

I didn't say you did.

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22271533)
Basically, yes. If he were charged with a crime he could, potentially,

I didn't know that, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271553)
Mark...you really, really need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC.

But then, I would have nothing... NOTHING!

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271553)
Dude...the country is doing GREAT right now.
Black unemployment at the lowest in HISTORY. Latin unemployment at historic lows. Women unemployment at historic lows.
Companies bringing back money to the U.S. (from overseas). Trade deals being straightened out.

Yes you're right on all of the above, but what if (a) your country (that I love) was already doing great before Trump?

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271553)
Trump is not only going to last the year (as I've watched Trump-haters on here claim he wouldn't run, wouldn't win, wouldn't last the FIRST year...and now you are pondering if he will last this year)..

Very true. I didn't think he would run, he did. I didn't think he would win, but he did.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271553)

You don't know that...because you are processing the information that is being given to you by the mainstream media.

For once listen to me...they are NOT telling you the truth and are NOT giving you the full picture. .

This is a really interesting situation. You believe in "this", and I believe in "that". You and I get our information about "this" and "that" from different sources. How could we, as outsiders / media consumers, ever know for sure which "truth" is really true?


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Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22271608)
Well he is doing much better than any previous president.

What makes you say that?


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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271614)
As for Fox News...they pretty much are the ONLY ones reporting the news anymore..

You should try watching Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. She's pretty smart. (I've watched Shep Smith a few times... he's pretty decent! If I can watch a little Smith, you can watch a little Maddow... maybe?

GAMEFINEST 05-17-2018 10:24 PM

He wont serve out his term

huey 05-17-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271492)
You guys really need to step outside your ridiculous bubbles and seek out both sides of the news instead of only that which you want to hear. It's literally insane to see both sides and then watch how you guys act. You're worse than children. Worse than children because you should know better. Everyday there is just as much negative stories coming out against Mueller, Obama, Hillary, abuses of power, collusion, spying etc etc etc etc etc and you guys ignore it 100% to protect your own weak narratives and remain in denial.

Even worse, you guys are so childish and filled with bitterness simply because you didn't get what you want, that you either have no idea or have completely lost sight of why he's in office. I mean you fucking people literally ignore the most basic facts of why you lost the election to begin with and why the election map was completely painted red.

Economy. Immigration. Jobs. Tax reform. Trade.

Further, none of you... ever,... has every been right a single time about Trump.

He won't run
He won't submit his financials
He won't get the nomination
He stands no chance to win
He still won't actually run for President
He can't win the election
He'll be impeached....
etc etc etc etc etc etc.

None of you have ever been right. This would give a reasonable person cause to step back and pause and reflect. But not the bitter left. Instead its just cheering against the President and the nation,... cheering on the downfall of both. Pathetic. Those in the middle,... who you'll need to win any election are watching this in disgust.

So you remember,....
His ratings are going up. Economy is doing well. Unemployment is incredibly low. Blacks are abandoning Democrats. Millennials are shifting from Democrats. He's shredded the TPP as promised. He's going after China as promised. He's bringing companies and back to the US as promised. He's undid a lot of Obamas executive orders as promised. Voters don't give 2 shits about a whacked out porn star or a failed witch hunt. They care about their jobs, they care about illegals continually flooding into the country and they care about every trade deal ever being poorly negotiated etc.

You guys will lose the next election.

Not because Trump is awesome... but because you guys have done absolutely nothing but whine and cry and throw temper tantrums and chase fake scandals. You have no candidate. You have no plan. You have no platform. You have no vision for the future. "Anyone but Trump" is not a platform just as "not my President" is not a platform. And when the time comes, you'll be up against a guy who fought for everything he said he would and achieved a lot in 4 years and he'll likely be facing a whining, self entitled crowd spewing more of the same nonsense, never understanding that it's driving the base away, not pulling them closer together.

Voters are not going to look back on this period kindly. Neither will history. It's like watching 75,000,000 John McEnroe's lose their minds 24/7 with childish temper tantrums.

but... when a girl wears a Chinese dress to prom with no intent other than to wear a pretty dress.. we gotta hear about that from you guys - that dominates social media for 2 weeks and makes headline news. Thats more important than jobs, trade, taxes, economy, immigration etc. You could care less that Obama used the FBI to spy on political opponents or the IRS to shut down opposing viewpoints or doubled the national debt and 1000 other issues... but yeah, Trump is a real problem.. and needs to be impeached. Jesus.

Stop making sense : )

Robbie 05-17-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22271681)
Robbie this is sad man. You sound brain washed. FOX is the only news source?

And I am a published journalist who wrote for New York Magazine, Newsweek and other outlets. I have a legal NYC journalism badge and code that grants me access to crime scenes, live news feeds and "raw" reportage as part of my duties as, you know, an actual accredited journalist with a badge and everything. So you have no idea what I watch or read but I absolutely positively guarantee it's a more reliable source than news spewed out on television for God's sake. LOL In other words: TV news (FOX, CNN, MSNBC) is for the idiot masses.

1. I said that RIGHT NOW...Fox News is the only one out of CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News with ACTUAL NEWS HOURS.
You are deflecting with nonsense and in denial of what I said.

2. Good for you Mr. Journalist. WTF are you doing trying to be a pornographer?
And I can only assume that you watch mainstream liberal biased media because of the complete lack of knowledge you show about how well our country is doing under the Trump administration.
I can only judge you by what you say and/or DON'T say. And the fact that you seem to think everything is going "bad" when all the indicators are that the country is doing the best it's done in decades...leads me to believe that YOU are the one who is "brainwashed".
What else can I think about your lack of knowledge, general lack of curiosity about what the last administration used our intelligence agency's for during the election, and your blind hatred of Trump all based on the fact that you live in New York and thus "know" him?

Robbie 05-17-2018 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22271715)
You should try watching Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. She's pretty smart. (I've watched Shep Smith a few times... he's pretty decent! If I can watch a little Smith, you can watch a little Maddow... maybe?

I do watch her show.
She has done nothing but follow the directive of attack, attack, attack Trump. It's getting boring.
I'd like to see some real journalism and reporting of NEWS instead of just one story over and over and over. :)

OneHungLo 05-18-2018 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22271681)
And I am a published journalist who wrote for New York Magazine, Newsweek and other outlets. I have a legal NYC journalism badge and code that grants me access to crime scenes, live news feeds and "raw" reportage as part of my duties as, you know, an actual accredited journalist with a badge and everything. So you have no idea what I watch or read but I absolutely positively guarantee it's a more reliable source than news spewed out on television for God's sake. LOL In other words: TV news (FOX, CNN, MSNBC) is for the idiot masses.

Damn.. where do you journalist snobs get your news from? :1orglaugh

CarlosTheGaucho 05-18-2018 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22271702)
Three quick things.

1. Democrats are following the blueprint laid out by Republicans with Obama. Say no to everything, obstruct, block, and complain. It worked for them. I don't condone it, but it is what is happening.

One remark here, I doubt they are following a blueprint laid out by Republicans, they are following a blueprint laid out by the whole establishment in the Washington DC.

It doesn't matter if it's democrats or republicans, it appears that the best time in their political careers is once they are in the opposition and can bitch, moan and overload the world with their snug remarks and block everything while cashing fat checks, mobilizing donors, preparing future favors for big business and virtue signal to their "base".

That's why I'd expect that also a big part of the mainstream GOP establishment is now likely a tad uncomfortable since they're actually forced to get behind a real agenda, take a stance and actually deal with real issues as opposed to recycling their old overplayed talking points while maintaining the status quo and the business as usual.

The Porn Nerd 05-18-2018 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22271740)
Damn.. where do you journalist snobs get your news from? :1orglaugh

Well, when working on a story we gather actual facts by interviewing people and investigating using police records, medical records (those we can legally obtain), Freedom Of Information Act, other Government sources both on and off the record and so on. For "news" - both on background and for things happening in real time - we have access to news wires, police reports, tax records, all kinds of public information not available to non-journalists. Now, can that information be spun Right or Left? Of course it can, and does. But that's another kettle of fish.

Oh - and to answer Robbie's question: porn pays better than journalism. :) And I do not do investigative journalism any longer. I prefer sitting in my underwear, smoking weed and watching other people have sex while my pornstar girlfriend blows me and I make a comfortable six figures. Call me crazy. :)

slapass 05-18-2018 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22271701)
He's a douche. But my point in EVERYTHING is that you guys just can't accept that he's President and fully ignore WHY he's President. You have completely lost sight of what people voted for and why, and why he is now President.

So whats the plan? Obstruct nominations and talk shit for 8 years? Is that how Democrats are going to win future elections?

This is what is deeply disturbing to me.. Politics used to be a competition of left/right ideas. Those ideas that won were usually very similar with only a few concessions. Now the nation and voters are an afterthought. it's just a bunch of schoolyard children acting like assholes with an equally fucked up media cheering them on,... or in most cases starting shit where there is none just to keep it all going and sell ads.

Where are the Democrat plans? Why aren't they crushing an unintelligent moron with better ideas that the vast majority of the public can get behind? Shouldn't be too hard right???

Where are the Democrats talking about "we don't have time for bickering, we need to work on the nation?". All Democrats are doing in an era where a fat orange turd is handing them ammo every single day is name calling and hoping for scandals... not showing a path forward, for the future to appeal to voters. I honestly Democrats will lose the next election because of this behavior. Just as right now, the lowest show on Fox gets murdered by the highest rated show on CNN. The media and Democrats are driving themselves right off a cliff.

I mean seriously... when you're losing the black vote to Trump, clearly the party has a lot of big problems.

I think we get those points. The Dems lost everything. There are not s lot of good options when you have lost control of most states and every federal govt body. Also after 8 years, even Democrats have to agree that we had made so many strides it was time for a breather.

Honestly, I think Trump is perfect for the BAby Boomers. He is a racist old dog from a by gone era. He embodies all the bad of them. Let’s expose it and move on. :thumbsup

Acepimp 05-18-2018 04:00 AM

No informed person wants Trump to quit. Mark, you got duped by fake news. Suggestion: Try watching Tucker & Hannity every night & get some facts.

:pimp

thommy 05-18-2018 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22271490)
But who would replace him?

Under Obama the disparity between rich and poor increased more than at any other time in history. Eight years of Hillary would have been disastrous.

in the same 8 years you could see this disparity worldwide.
one of the problems obama and the whole world had was to rescue the banking system.

other than in other countries this was connected to new rules and limits they had to accept.
trump kicked this rules for the american financial sector.
he saved the spendings for the poor and gave it to the rich.
after 1,5 years trump the disparity between poor and rich rised more as in the past 20 years together. and this is just the status quo.
tax cuts for the lower income group will go in the next years step by step while tax cuts
for the rich will continue.

trup does not have 8 years yet and he will not. but in his short era he will make much more damage for the us economy as anybody before him.

Matt-ADX 05-18-2018 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22271788)
in the same 8 years you could see this disparity worldwide.
one of the problems obama and the whole world had was to rescue the banking system.

other than in other countries this was connected to new rules and limits they had to accept.
trump kicked this rules for the american financial sector.
he saved the spendings for the poor and gave it to the rich.
after 1,5 years trump the disparity between poor and rich rised more as in the past 20 years together. and this is just the status quo.
tax cuts for the lower income group will go in the next years step by step while tax cuts
for the rich will continue.

trup does not have 8 years yet and he will not. but in his short era he will make much more damage for the us economy as anybody before him.

Take 5 minutes and proof read your posts. Most of this is un-readable. If you want anyone to take you half seriously at least try to be coherent.

2MuchMark 05-18-2018 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22271727)
1. I said that RIGHT NOW...Fox News is the only one out of CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News with ACTUAL NEWS HOURS.

Absolutely not true, sir Robbie. There are plenty of news outlets including CNN, MSNBC, ABC, BBC, etc.

My brother said something interesting to me once. He watches only Fox news (and Sun News when it existed here in Canada), and said his reason was because Fox News "Tells me what I already know". I think that sometimes people just want to watch what they like.

I shit you not - I started listening to Rush Limbaugh. Seriously. I do not like the guy and do not like what he has to say really, but I still listen, and sometimes I see his point. (There's another show on after his that I check out too sometimes but I forget the name, but he's similar to Rush but less bombastic).

Seriously. If I were your next-door neighbour I'd invite you over for a beer and make you site and watch some other news outlets with me. It's interesting! Then you can show me how to improve my guitar skills.

Peace.

Matt-ADX 05-18-2018 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22271870)
Absolutely not true, sir Robbie. There are plenty of news outlets including CNN, MSNBC, ABC, BBC, etc.

My brother said something interesting to me once. He watches only Fox news (and Sun News when it existed here in Canada), and said his reason was because Fox News "Tells me what I already know". I think that sometimes people just want to watch what they like.

I shit you not - I started listening to Rush Limbaugh. Seriously. I do not like the guy and do not like what he has to say really, but I still listen, and sometimes I see his point. (There's another show on after his that I check out too sometimes but I forget the name, but he's similar to Rush but less bombastic).

Seriously. If I were your next-door neighbour I'd invite you over for a beer and make you site and watch some other news outlets with me. It's interesting! Then you can show me how to improve my guitar skills.

Peace.

I watch CNN 8 hours a day while working. From 9am to 5pm there is 0 news Mark. Only time there is news is if it is anything non political. All MSM (Fox included) have moved away from news and more into these pundit round tables where everyone sits and confirms each others points of view.

On the rare occasion that CNN tries to have 2 people on with opposing points of view the host always shouts down the conservative, their demeanor throughout the segment changes almost instantly compared to how they are for the rest of the hour. Past 5pm I cannot speak to how CNN or MSNBC hosts report or act but from 9-5 this is how it is every day.

dyna mo 05-18-2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22271788)
in the same 8 years you could see this disparity worldwide.
one of the problems obama and the whole world had was to rescue the banking system.

other than in other countries this was connected to new rules and limits they had to accept.
trump kicked this rules for the american financial sector.
he saved the spendings for the poor and gave it to the rich.
after 1,5 years trump the disparity between poor and rich rised more as in the past 20 years together. and this is just the status quo.
tax cuts for the lower income group will go in the next years step by step while tax cuts
for the rich will continue.

trup does not have 8 years yet and he will not. but in his short era he will make much more damage for the us economy as anybody before him.

nazi thommy, the economic inequality numbers have not even been calculated for 2017/2018.

the latest year is 2016.

Your blind hatred for America clouds your ability to think straight. But don't worry, I won't have you rounded up because you're dumb.

crockett 05-18-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22271457)
...or will he do us all a favour and just quit?

He wont be going anywhere as long as Republicans hold Congress. Trump would have to hire Hillary to be his chief of staff for Republicans to impeach him..

Republicans have shown, they will continue to put party above country. Trump could start death camps for illegals and Republicans would cheer him on.. say it was fake news..


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