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Double layered cloth mask is about 60 % effective while exhaling and about 40% effective while inhaling. Now look at a viral load of a factor 100 in a person next to you who has a mask: His viral load while exhaling in your direction is reduced to 40. Now if you are wearing a mask you may inhale only 40% of the load from a factor 40 which is factor 16 of the initial load. So simple stated, if both are wearing a mask, the risk of transmission is reduced 5x or more. |
yes I use it the n95 very expensive but oh well
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But guess what, I have some Ebola parties tickets left. Right up your alley ...:1orglaugh |
I don't wear one inside or in my yard but I've wore one since day one in public. I also get groceries every 2 weeks instead of weekly to make fewer trips out. When I go to Walmart I see about 60% of people wearing masks. Last time I was at a gas station there were 12 people inside and I was the only one wearing a mask.
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YES there are dangerous things in the world like you listed but most of those things (all?) will not have an end point where there is a vaccine and treatment coming. Again, wearing a mask is not forever. LOL |
I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.
Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers I rest in my case |
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The virus itself is microscopic. However, the virus is carried in the air by water droplets - from when we breathe out, cough, or sneeze. The masks prevent the water droplets from entering your mouth and nose when you breathe. It it 100% effective? Dunno. But it's better than nothing. Vegas is opening up, and they got slammed with new cases. Now the casinos are making everyone wear masks. |
It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover.
If the experts are all 100% wrong and the mask does nothing, all you are out is wearing a piece of cloth on your face for a few minutes while you are in a store or public place. It is literally the least a person can do to help the country (and world) recover. The fact that some people are passionately against it just blows my mind. |
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What's more, in those "red" States the Governors are STILL saying "everything is fine" and not making mask-wearing mandatory while their Covid-19 numbers keep going up daily. It's madness. |
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It's insane. |
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I wonder how many deaths our dear President is responsible for with his irresponsible behavior? |
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Good times. |
In California... Masks are now required.
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I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias. I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated. Why? It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple... |
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Does pulling your tee shirt over you mouth and nose qualify as a mask? I know cloth masks made out of tee shirts are okay even though they don't provide much protection. But just pulling the shirt up over your face, is that acceptable?
I seem to recall a video one someone getting kicked off of a bus because he only used his shirt over his face and the guy kicking off everyone had no mask on. |
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Not until they make it law. safe distance and just to make communication a minimum in public for now. Zoom and phone works great
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yeah, pretty much that. |
Used them indoors in supermarket when mandatory. Just went and didn't use them. Only when you buy liquour and gasoline you must keep it up.
But i don't go out that much here in India, it is rainy season and almost everything closed now at the beach. It is quiet here on the streets in low season. On the streets outside the virus hardly spread and no mask needed. You saw that with crowded beaches and BLM protests. The people that are waiting for a safe vaccin can wait a longtime. I make sure i won't get one shot. I try to bribe a doctor if i need a covid vaccin passport. I don't trust the pharmacy and the governments with that. |
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Again, you wear a mask to protect yourself but especially to protect OTHERS. To not do so and let there be a 'reset' is frankly absurd and anti-social. It's the same attitude dictators and mass murderers and genocidal maniacs have shown throughout history. Let the chips (droplets) fall where they may? Dude stay the FUCK away from me if we ever meet on the street. |
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In my country we have to wear mask in every public place.We are not allowed to enter without a mask..There are huge penalties
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Don't those 1.5 million people count? Why shouldn't we do everything possible to eradicate TB, whatever the cost? If you honestly feel my thinking is "disgusting" and I'm thinking like a dictator, etc. all good. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not... |
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We do all die. That doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps to avoid it. |
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There are treatments for TB etc. Not so much for covid-19 and apparently the RT (Rate of Transmission) is way higher with coronavirus. Just because people get cancer, other illnesses, other diseases does NOT mean we should all be fucking idiots and do nothing to prevent that which we can prevent. Again, for others even more so than for ourselves. But why try to educate someone who is so selfish, prickish and anti-social? I'm just glad you identified yourself as part of the problem and not the solution. |
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United States - 2 220 961 cases EU - 2 268 266 cases The stats are copied from here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geogra...019-ncov-cases https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/def...?itok=Sqx35qCg When you see "America" on the graph above, it lineally means America - two big continents. So how the EU was better prepared than the USA? |
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I'm just saying if a mask helps even a little I'm down for that. |
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I said that the US WOULD have had some extra weeks to prepare |
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A lot of the stuff out there doesn't add up for me. I took the anti-body test 2 weeks ago and I was positive. The only time I had "flu-like" symptoms was in early February - and it was pretty bad for a couple of days. Just after that my wife had a dry-cough for three weeks. Our thinking is maybe we got it here: Was Sundance a "First Petri Dish" of Coronavirus in the States? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fe...states-1293378 But who knows??? Such a weird situation with protests/riots in NYC and no mention of social distancing and masks/gloves (gloves!!! Not that Covid-19 is transferable from surfaces!!!) and everyone getting a pass. And BTW NO SPIKE WHATSOEVER BECAUSE OF THE PROTESTS!!! Masks are obligatory in the NYC Subway - so I put on a mask. But outside??? No way, Jose! Stay 6ft away from me if you have any doubts, but no mask for me outside. I've done two things to do "my part" in this thing. I've donated plasma, which is in very high demand once you have Anti-body certification, and I signed up for Contact Tracing thru Citizen. Some people get on their soapbox and launch virtue-signaling nuclear strikes at those who would dare to have a different opinion - and that's what works for them. In the meantime, there's a lot of us doing our thing, moving forward. Shit's about to get real in NYC once the $600 a week PUA runs out July 31. That's when we'll move really start feeling the economic devastation caused by the "measured governmental response". You guys do realize there's an economic aspect to this equation, right? Good luck to all and see you on the other side... |
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Also...the deaths themselves...75% of ALL deaths from Covid19 are people with underlying conditions. 73.6% of all deaths from Covid19 are people who are 65 years of age and older (mostly older) Only 0.7% of all Covid19 deaths are from people who doctors are certain have no underlying conditions. All data and all science says that people under 65 years old without health problems are far less affected by this than the flu. That's just science. I know the media isn't reporting this. But it's fact. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/ In other words...stay away from older people (they should stay isolated). Nursing homes should be a top priority. And if you have a health condition it is also up to you to stay isolated. The rest of us??? Nope. We're gonna be fine. Just stay away from old and unhealthy people if THEY are too stupid to stay isolated. |
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It's more about the response to this pandemic. We wouldn't have had this many deaths with a proper timely response. There will be other pandemics, count on it. The percentage of deaths is only meaningful to the dead and the people those deaths affect. There is no simplistic explanation of how this virus reacts with people. There are many instances of young healthy middle aged men and women that have died from the virus. Imagine their surprise to wake up dead. Our own government has tried its best to muzzle science and obstruct testing. There are no excuses for the way this has been managed. This country is just about even with smart and stupid people. Pick a side and keep your fingers crossed. If it's your turn, you will die alone. |
Leave it to Americans to turn wearing a mask into a political thing. Don't worry the CDC is 't coming to take your freedom and Bill Gates isn't trying to microchip everyone for the illuminati. You wear a mask to protect others who are at risk such as the elderly and people without healthy immune systems. I'm young (relatively) and at very low risk of complications from covid, and I think I already had it when I was in Asia months back.. but I still wear a mask anywhere I go. We have barely any cases here now because people took it seriously and we were successful in flattening the curve.. we have like 10 new cases a day and basically all of the new cases are in long term care facilities and not community spread. I wore a mask anytime I went anywhere, including gloves and hand sanitizer.. not because I'm scared of corona but because I don't want to be the guy who was too cool to wear a mask, and gave it to some 80 year old who was grocery shopping because he didnt have kids or help to do the shopping for them.
People not wearing a mask in places with outbreaks are complete trash. Listen to the health officials who have dedicated their lives to learning about infectious diseases, and not some loser sitting in his moms basement who somehow discovered a global conspiracy in between the sessions of spilling mountain dew on himself and masturbating with hot cheeto crumbs all over his fat hands. Idiots |
BTW, don't forget to also protect your dog ... :stoned
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Spread, infection rate, cases and most data is pretty meaningless. If 99.99 % of those infected were asymptomatic then who cares about how many cases there are. It's hospitalizations and deaths that are most relevant since no country except Iceland has been able to consistently test properly. |
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a big demonstration - Virus Madness, in The Hague in Holland yesterday was forbidden. So a lot of people showed up anyway. Only some Hooligans started fighting in the end. The rest of the day was a summer of love. They expected 50.000 people when it wouldn't be forbidden, famous DJ's would have shown up. All against new 1,5 meter society laws that could be in place, till there is a vaccin... Not much Corona in Holland, 3 weeks ago there where 14.000 ant racism protestors in Amsterdam, they didn't forbid that so they divide people. Demonstrating for something happened in USA is good, protest against Dutch government forbidden.
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