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JesseQuinn 06-18-2020 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Relic (Post 22687180)
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https://i.imgur.com/vTO9yR6.jpg


again props to everyone trying to do the right thing

GAMEFINEST 06-18-2020 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22686796)
What county in NoCal?
Stanislaus

baddog 06-18-2020 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 22687344)
Stanislaus
I would think they met/exceeded requirements as far as cases.

ruff 06-18-2020 07:56 PM
I do whatever it takes to keep myself and family safe. I wear a mask and wear poly gloves when I go to stores. I stay away from people especially people that don't wear masks. My wife is a doctor and we know what the fuck. I could care less about the idiots that are stupid, but they put my wife and other healthcare workers at risk because they have to take care of sick idiots. Believe me, if you get the virus you will whine like a little bitch and that's if you live. And if you live, you very likely will be living with some fucked up health for the rest of your life. So party on you Beavis and Buttheads and when somebody close to you dies, remember you did fuckall.

just a punk 06-18-2020 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22687007)
But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.
Man, have you been to a school? Have your leaned what airborne disease is? How do you think this infection is being transmitted? A teleportation? No, it's being transmitted via drops of water by the air and the mask stops them very well. The closet analogy is a condom. Do you know that it has pores that are much-much-much larger than a virus or HIV? So how it does protect you? Ah? It does protect you because the pores are too small for molecules of water, so those can't pass through them. HIV can not be teleported. It must be in the fluids you exchange with and your sex partner. This is how a mask (properly made and properly weared) works against ALL airborne diseases. Course you may breath some infection from the holes between your mask and your face, but the concentration usually won't be enough to make you sick. Just like if you will kiss a girl with HIV. She has the virus in her saliva... but not enough to infect you.

It's a shame you haven't learned the things in a Soviet school. The US education is something...

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Originally Posted by Den BongaCash (Post 22686884)
Nope, no mask. Only following simple rules: staying away from others (if I go to stores), don't touch the face, and take a quick shower with soap when you get home.
That's a usual routine here in Russia to wash your hands and face when you enter a home. Also you should take off your shoes and change your street clothes to home ones (if you are entering your own apartments). So nothing has changed for us at all...

mopek1 06-19-2020 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22687012)
I am constantly amazed at how otherwise smart people can be utter fuckiing idiots.
I feel the same but have the opposite perspective you have. I think all of this is an overreaction. And I don't think it's that people are utter idiots, it's that their emotions are taking over - like with every topic - and then they rationalize their side, or point of view.

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22687012)
If a mask reduced the possibility of getting or spreading the virus 1% why wouldn't you wear it?
There are 1000s of harmful things in our world and 1000s of things we can do that would reduce those harmful things by 1%, yet we don't do them. Decrease driving accidents, cleaner environment, better eating (which will save our health and the health system), reducing suicide, concussion protocols, possibility of war etc... I could go on. We don't take actions that would reduce those likelihoods by 1% so why do it for Corona? How would we even start to rank what's the most harmful thing for us and then decide to take action to reduce that by 1%?

It would take too much time and too many resources and we as humans just don't do that for good and bad reasons. We live with risk and we go about our day as best we can, moving forward making things better a bit at a time. There are far more dangerous things to worry about out there than Corona.

BTW, the lockdown is said to have increased tuberculosis in the world by 5 million cases over the next few years and 1.4 million deaths. That's just one adverse affect of the lockdown. 1.4 million deaths ... now you ask me about people who are so utterly stupid ... again, it's not that they are stupid, it's that this issue is now politicized and that's one more reason why (on top of my rationale above and belief they are generally not needed) I don't wear a mask.

_Richard_ 06-19-2020 04:33 AM
how did ya'lll lose your shit over TP, but skip the whole mask thing

ruff 06-19-2020 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22687413)
That's a usual routine here in Russia to wash your hands and face when you enter a home. Also you should take off your shoes and change your street clothes to home ones (if you are entering your own apartments). So nothing has changed for us at all...
My wife is Russian and this is what we've been doing since I married her 18 years ago. Very sensible, but not common in the US.

jamesonjames 06-19-2020 06:43 AM
Wearing mask since the start. also got a respirator, tho face get sweaty too fast in it

just a punk 06-19-2020 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22687486)
My wife is Russian and this is what we've been doing since I married her 18 years ago. Very sensible, but not common in the US.
I know about the US and that's why I tell how we do it here. You know, when there was a plague epidemic in Western Europe, Russia was almost non affected. That's because even a peasant here had a bath day (at least one day a week to take a bath). While in Western countries people washed themselves like once per two years or so. They even invented perfume to stink less. The women here still prefer soup and shower as a best perfume (a smell of healthy and clean women's body is better in any case).

celandina 06-19-2020 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22687007)
But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.

The ONLY mask that has any efficacy is the N95 medical mask.
It can filter out virus up to 95%

All the little masks that people are running around wearing don't do anything except stop "droplets" (liquid again) when you sneeze.

The virus itself is microscopic and isn't affected at all by the mask.
Here is the simple math and what are you missing logic !

Double layered cloth mask is about 60 % effective while exhaling and about 40% effective while inhaling.

Now look at a viral load of a factor 100 in a person next to you who has a mask:

His viral load while exhaling in your direction is reduced to 40.

Now if you are wearing a mask you may inhale only 40% of the load from a factor 40 which is factor 16 of the initial load.

So simple stated, if both are wearing a mask, the risk of transmission is reduced 5x or more.

nikki99 06-19-2020 07:28 AM
yes I use it the n95 very expensive but oh well

<----------- not this one

celandina 06-19-2020 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 22687061)
Ever heard of an immune system?
If you don't use it, you lose it.
And living in a bubble won't safe you, it will just make you weaker...

And die??! Seriously if you are among the less than 1% of the people that die from this, maybe you should die and leave the planet to the rest of us that are stronger.
Hey, I have some invites for a polio parties... Sorry, they are outdated since polio was eradicated , BUT NOT by some strong heard immunity BUT by PPEs and eventually by vaccine.

But guess what, I have some Ebola parties tickets left. Right up your alley ...:1orglaugh

SBJ 06-19-2020 08:20 AM
I don't wear one inside or in my yard but I've wore one since day one in public. I also get groceries every 2 weeks instead of weekly to make fewer trips out. When I go to Walmart I see about 60% of people wearing masks. Last time I was at a gas station there were 12 people inside and I was the only one wearing a mask.

People are STUPID! :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2020 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22687461)
I feel the same but have the opposite perspective you have. I think all of this is an overreaction. And I don't think it's that people are utter idiots, it's that their emotions are taking over - like with every topic - and then they rationalize their side, or point of view.



There are 1000s of harmful things in our world and 1000s of things we can do that would reduce those harmful things by 1%, yet we don't do them. Decrease driving accidents, cleaner environment, better eating (which will save our health and the health system), reducing suicide, concussion protocols, possibility of war etc... I could go on. We don't take actions that would reduce those likelihoods by 1% so why do it for Corona? How would we even start to rank what's the most harmful thing for us and then decide to take action to reduce that by 1%?

It would take too much time and too many resources and we as humans just don't do that for good and bad reasons. We live with risk and we go about our day as best we can, moving forward making things better a bit at a time. There are far more dangerous things to worry about out there than Corona.

BTW, the lockdown is said to have increased tuberculosis in the world by 5 million cases over the next few years and 1.4 million deaths. That's just one adverse affect of the lockdown. 1.4 million deaths ... now you ask me about people who are so utterly stupid ... again, it's not that they are stupid, it's that this issue is now politicized and that's one more reason why (on top of my rationale above and belief they are generally not needed) I don't wear a mask.
Well, a few things here: regardless of your views whether this is a serious situation or not wearing a mask is done FOR OTHERS, not for yourself. Have you been tested? Do you know 100% YOU do not have Covid-19? I doubt you did get tested. So guess what? YOU may be a carrier and not even know it! And even if you DID get tested some time ago you still may have caught it without wearing a mask and thus may be spreading it RIGHT NOW.

YES there are dangerous things in the world like you listed but most of those things (all?) will not have an end point where there is a vaccine and treatment coming. Again, wearing a mask is not forever. LOL

MaDalton 06-19-2020 10:02 AM
I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.

Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries

all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too

meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers

I rest in my case

Rochard 06-19-2020 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22687007)
But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.

The ONLY mask that has any efficacy is the N95 medical mask.
It can filter out virus up to 95%

All the little masks that people are running around wearing don't do anything except stop "droplets" (liquid again) when you sneeze.

The virus itself is microscopic and isn't affected at all by the mask.
There shouldn't be any debate about wearing masks.

The virus itself is microscopic. However, the virus is carried in the air by water droplets - from when we breathe out, cough, or sneeze. The masks prevent the water droplets from entering your mouth and nose when you breathe.

It it 100% effective? Dunno. But it's better than nothing.

Vegas is opening up, and they got slammed with new cases. Now the casinos are making everyone wear masks.

kane 06-19-2020 11:31 AM
It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover.

If the experts are all 100% wrong and the mask does nothing, all you are out is wearing a piece of cloth on your face for a few minutes while you are in a store or public place.

It is literally the least a person can do to help the country (and world) recover. The fact that some people are passionately against it just blows my mind.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2020 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22687588)
I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.

Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries

all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too

meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers

I rest in my case
Exactly. Same is true here in the United States. Those States (mostly red/republican) who did not lockdown or eased restrictions too early are seeing rising cases and daily records of new cases. Yet America just keeps chugging along, seeming not to care...

What's more, in those "red" States the Governors are STILL saying "everything is fine" and not making mask-wearing mandatory while their Covid-19 numbers keep going up daily. It's madness.

kane 06-19-2020 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22687650)
Exactly. Same is true here in the United States. Those States (mostly red/republican) who did not lockdown or eased restrictions too early are seeing rising cases and daily records of new cases. Yet America just keeps chugging along, seeming not to care...

What's more, in those "red" States the Governors are STILL saying "everything is fine" and not making mask-wearing mandatory while their Covid-19 numbers keep going up daily. It's madness.
It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2020 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22687679)
It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.
Yup. Thx Trump! :321GFY

I wonder how many deaths our dear President is responsible for with his irresponsible behavior?

Rochard 06-19-2020 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Porko (Post 22687094)
Pretty cool tshirt man. Yes, I wear a mask all the time. It's a civic duty :thumbsup
I got it at a $5 store. I added in a "smokey the bear" baseball cap from Amazon, grabbed a rake... And took a selfie mocking Trump's "We need to rake the forrest".

Good times.

Rochard 06-19-2020 04:26 PM
In California... Masks are now required.

About time.

RandyRandy 06-19-2020 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22687679)
It's not just that. For many Republicans it has become a political statement. If you are wearing a mask, you are a libtard.

It's insane.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22687731)
Yup. Thx Trump! :321GFY

I wonder how many deaths our dear President is responsible for with his irresponsible behavior?
I like both of you guys.

I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias.

I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated.

Why?

It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple...

just a punk 06-19-2020 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22687588)
I can only say that we had mandatory masks since March - on July 1st it will end.

Infection numbers are almost zero, per capita numbers look pretty good in comparison to other countries

all businesses, restaurants, bars etc will be back to normal on July 1st too

meanwhile countries who did no lockdown, no masks or where people simply do not follow those rules still report growing infection numbers

I rest in my case
You live in a small village-like country. That's why you have almost zero cases of infection (especially when the borders are closed). We in Russia also have a lockdown, isolation, mask regime etc, but it doesn't work, because Moscow, just like NYC is a world hub. So the USA and Russia are the most affected countries. For example, we had 15 flights to/from Wuhan every day. The Moscow agglomeration is more than 25 millions of people who came from around the Globe (I don't even mention Saint Petersburg, Novosibirsk etc). How many live in the whole Czech Republic?

abshard 06-19-2020 08:56 PM
Does pulling your tee shirt over you mouth and nose qualify as a mask? I know cloth masks made out of tee shirts are okay even though they don't provide much protection. But just pulling the shirt up over your face, is that acceptable?

I seem to recall a video one someone getting kicked off of a bus because he only used his shirt over his face and the guy kicking off everyone had no mask on.

just a punk 06-19-2020 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22687606)
There shouldn't be any debate about wearing masks.

The virus itself is microscopic. However, the virus is carried in the air by water droplets - from when we breathe out, cough, or sneeze. The masks prevent the water droplets from entering your mouth and nose when you breathe.
Indeed, you are damn right. Have you got your education in a Soviet school? :winkwink:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22687606)
It it 100% effective? Dunno.
Of course it can not give you a 100% protection, because when you breath, something goes to your nose through gaps between the mask and your face. But in any case, it saves you against the high concentration of viruses.

Spunky 06-19-2020 11:15 PM
Not until they make it law. safe distance and just to make communication a minimum in public for now. Zoom and phone works great

Yanks_Todd 06-20-2020 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22687007)
But since the virus is microscopic and travels through your mask like it's not even there, that analogy with liquid isn't even scientifically close.

The ONLY mask that has any efficacy is the N95 medical mask.
It can filter out virus up to 95%

All the little masks that people are running around wearing don't do anything except stop "droplets" (liquid again) when you sneeze.

The virus itself is microscopic and isn't affected at all by the mask.
And the droplets are full of the virus. So.... yeah. Your explanation makes a case against your own opinion.

Yanks_Todd 06-20-2020 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22687646)
It's pretty straight forward. If the experts are all correct and wearing a mask helps reduce the spread of the virus and will help us reopen the country with better success, then wearing one is helping save lives and helping the country recover.

If the experts are all 100% wrong and the mask does nothing, all you are out is wearing a piece of cloth on your face for a few minutes while you are in a store or public place.

It is literally the least a person can do to help the country (and world) recover. The fact that some people are passionately against it just blows my mind.

yeah, pretty much that.

Tasty1 06-20-2020 06:14 AM
Used them indoors in supermarket when mandatory. Just went and didn't use them. Only when you buy liquour and gasoline you must keep it up.

But i don't go out that much here in India, it is rainy season and almost everything closed now at the beach. It is quiet here on the streets in low season. On the streets outside the virus hardly spread and no mask needed. You saw that with crowded beaches and BLM protests.

The people that are waiting for a safe vaccin can wait a longtime. I make sure i won't get one shot. I try to bribe a doctor if i need a covid vaccin passport. I don't trust the pharmacy and the governments with that.

The Porn Nerd 06-20-2020 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22687810)
I like both of you guys.

I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias.

I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated.

Why?

It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple...
Well I like you too but your attitude is disgusting tbh. It's like you are rooting for death - I mean, 'thinning the herd'. Except we are not "a herd", we are PEOPLE and PEOPLE are dying because of this virus.

Again, you wear a mask to protect yourself but especially to protect OTHERS. To not do so and let there be a 'reset' is frankly absurd and anti-social. It's the same attitude dictators and mass murderers and genocidal maniacs have shown throughout history.

Let the chips (droplets) fall where they may? Dude stay the FUCK away from me if we ever meet on the street.

MaDalton 06-20-2020 01:12 PM
This graph is all you need - if you WANT to understand it.

If you want to be ignorant, it won't help either

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eaq1Bc7W...name=4096x4096

Quote:
The population of the US is 330 million
The population of the EU is 446 million
https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status...29270898716673
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/d...an%20Union~USA


PS: As you can see the US also had a couple extra weeks to prepare, something that was wasted by your ignoramous in charge

kane 06-20-2020 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22687810)
I like both of you guys.

I'm not political. I don't like Cuomo, I can't stand Trump and Bill DiBlasio is persona non grata at any of my pizzerias.

I don't wear a mask outside, ever. I wear one indoors when mandated. I specifically shop at places where masks are not mandated.

Why?

It's time for a reset. The world is way over-populated anyway. Let the chips fall where they may and whoever moves on, moves on. And if you don't make it, it was your time to go. For me, it's that simple...
Well. . . I hope the chips don't fall on someone you love.

SekobA 06-20-2020 02:45 PM
In my country we have to wear mask in every public place.We are not allowed to enter without a mask..There are huge penalties

CaptainHowdy 06-20-2020 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22687810)
at any of my pizzerias.
Do you ship internationally? "3 Weeks or It's Free"?

RandyRandy 06-20-2020 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22688111)
Well I like you too but your attitude is disgusting tbh. It's like you are rooting for death - I mean, 'thinning the herd'. Except we are not "a herd", we are PEOPLE and PEOPLE are dying because of this virus.

Again, you wear a mask to protect yourself but especially to protect OTHERS. To not do so and let there be a 'reset' is frankly absurd and anti-social. It's the same attitude dictators and mass murderers and genocidal maniacs have shown throughout history.

Let the chips (droplets) fall where they may? Dude stay the FUCK away from me if we ever meet on the street.
Not at all "rooting" for death. Just being pragmatic...and even-handed. Why don't we "pause" the world and mandate masks for TB? It's transmitted airborne, human-to-human. Kills 1.5 million people every year, way more than this "pandemic" will...

Don't those 1.5 million people count? Why shouldn't we do everything possible to eradicate TB, whatever the cost?

If you honestly feel my thinking is "disgusting" and I'm thinking like a dictator, etc. all good. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not...

RandyRandy 06-20-2020 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22688157)
Well. . . I hope the chips don't fall on someone you love.
Already happened many times throughout my life. There are no guarantees in life: except that we will all die one day...

RandyRandy 06-20-2020 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22688194)
Do you ship internationally? "3 Weeks or It's Free"?
I don't even like to deliver pies, so shipping internationally???? If I'd make an exception for anyone, it'd be you!

kane 06-20-2020 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22688272)
Already happened many times throughout my life. There are no guarantees in life: except that we will all die one day...
Pretty shitty way of looking at things.

We do all die. That doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps to avoid it.


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