Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22691313)

You may be correct but people don't want to hear that many may suffer and die due to lock down. They simply filter that and you can't even have a reasonable conversation with them. They are focused on Corona and nothing else matters. it's sad really.



Most newspapers are just going along with what governments say. Our government was asked which doctors were in charge and their "team" was one doctor and 3 medical administration staff. Not even doctors?

Again, nobody wants to have an honest discussion. This is how I know it's political and not reasonable.



Hospitals are always full and overflowing during flu season. Nobody cared about that before. Suddenly, it's the most important thing.

Also, the flu killed 80,000 in the US a couple of years ago. Nobody cared, nobody knew, the news didn't report a thing. Suddenly, it's important now.




The biggest shock to me throughout this is how asleep most people are. It is like those movies where you wake up the world is all zombies. The media, governments, neighbors, family, all asleep and willingly so. That's the scariest thing to me.

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22692899)

I'm aroused . . .

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22693314)

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22692260)

We had a chance in the USA to crush this virus, as many other countries have done, but nope. We idiotic Americans

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22701487)

This is the fallacy or trap that we have all fallen into.

There is no crushing the virus. It is here to stay and will be part of the seasonal viruses that come through every year. It HAS to go through us and so we have to let it by allowing the healthy to resume life as per normal while protecting the vulnerable.

New Zealand apparently crushed the virus. Sure. But now what? They have trapped themselves. They can't open their borders until a vaccine is found, IF a vaccine is found that works in time. So they will sit there, while their economy degrades (tourism is 10%) and will eventually have no choice but to open up and let the virus back in, after a substantial loss to their economy and livelihood.

If we could crush the virus that would be great. But it doesn't work like that and we are going about this wrong, making it worse for us all in the long run.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22701554)

Enough. I am done endlessly repeating facts, science and common sense. I'm out and all you brainiacs who do not wear masks and think this is a scam or a hoax or BS can all just....hopefully survive all this. Ciao.

Originally Posted by chrys (Post 22701604)

Have to wear it in stores but it is a placebo. I don't think it helps at all

Originally Posted by newB (Post 22701594)

I hear you. It's the same argument over and over; Willful ignorance.

"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person."

- Bill Murray

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22701802)

Pretty much every scientist in the world disagrees with you.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22701554)

Europe has crushed the virus and now does not allow us idiotic Americans into the EU.

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22702034)

Not even close. There are many scientists who agree. I feel masks may offer some protection.